Opinion  Ron Ben-Yishai
US plan for Israel's safety
Ron Ben-Yishai
Published: 05.12.13, 19:57
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1. Coup by... who?
Eli ,   Israel   (12.05.13)
Not only did Hamas take Gaza by coup, also Abbas has no legitimacy at all. Elections should have been held in 2010. So why is Israel talking with him???
2. CAN THEY FLY OVER ISRAEL?
X   (12.05.13)
3. It is utter folly for Israel to take seriously
Pinchas Baram ,   Boston   (12.06.13)
America's interference disguised as helpfulness. Is Bibi playing along in order to get along with Obama? Or does he really want selective American military participation on the ground, along with Jordan, in order to make sure Washington does not follow the domestic mood and quit the Middle East, and its ally Israel? I hope Israelis wake up and object to America's security suggestions. Close that Pandora's box now before it's too late! Whatever happened to Israel's historic ethos of never being dependent on others when it comes to actual military defense?
4. Kerry & Co
Alf Red ,   Londonistansk   (12.06.13)
I read the above and think: WHY DO WE NEED ALL THIS SH...T on our heads? Situation as it is today - is thousand times better than what it might become, with all Obama's guaranties together. We must be out of our mind to agree to creation of this banditstan in the heart of our little country. Let these "palestinians" make their state somewhere in sandy ocean of Arabia, where they belong!
5. I would trust a Cobra, Rattlesanke,
DT ,   TA Israel   (12.06.13)
a rabid pit bull before I would trust this man. Israel does so at it's peril
6. suppose the Kerry family moved to Israel...
moshe ,   Tivon, Israel   (12.06.13)
I wonder what Mr Kerry's "suggestions" would look like... IF... Mr. Kerry and his entire family HAD to live in Israel as a form of GUARANTEE ! moshe
7. Danger of trust
jerri i ,   NYC   (12.06.13)
The US history of protecting Israel is not good. !n 1967 the US removed its troops from Sinai on the demand of Nasser. There is no guarantee that observation by the US of radical islamists infiltrating to Jordan border areas would be reported to Israel or even if reported would be acted on in Israel's interest. There is also the possibility of the US refusing to allow Israeli troops to enter the area and react as has happened under Obama with respect to Iran last year according to reports.
8. Israel must reject Obama's duplicitous offer
CJK   (12.06.13)
obama is not interested in israel's security. obama wants to deprive israel of her sovereignty on her eastern border and thereby undermine israel's ability to use her military unhindered. everyone should keep in mind that samantha powers wanted to invade israel, and brzezinski wanted to shoot down israeli war planes in case Israel attacked iran. obama and his people have extreme hostility to israel and no one should be fooled by them.
9. The problem ....
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (12.06.13)
.... is that you cannot believe a single thing the current administration says. Not just a failing of the Obama oligarchy; we've had it in the past with other administrations. Remember the assurances made to Taiwan? Remember how quickly those went away when China indicated a desire to reintegrate into the international community? American promises are not worth the paper they are written on, and they are certainly even more meaningless when uttered by any member of the current administration. Do keep in mind, after all, that Kerry thought that Fujira was in Brazil. Prime Secretary of State material, eh?
10. Israel's security
RayS ,   NH, USA   (12.06.13)
Having ANY international force secure ANY Israel border would be criminal INSANITY. Just review what happened in Lebanon. A Disaster. When Israel withdrew in favor of internation peace keepers, the terrorists made a tyerror army7 on Israel's north. Does anyone think the USA force in Sinai ( Yes, there is one) does any good to protect Israel ? Only Israel must guard Israel's borders.
11. "reliable international organizations"like UNIFIL or that
Alan ,   SA   (12.06.13)
Gaza EU manned "observer" setup a few years ago when the "observers" high-tailed it to Israel when Fatah and Hamas locked horns! OR the USA not sticking to its promise in 1956 to keep Straits of Tiran clear. USA will NEVER fight another M E War for ANYONE ,let alone Israel!
12. To: No. 10
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (12.06.13)
Agreed. Anyone else is far too inept.
13. A waste of time
arne ,   chicago usa   (12.06.13)
Too bad, all the time and effort put in for zilch. no deal without Israeli presence on all territory between the river and the sea.Stupid and time wasted. The status quo is the only answer for now--Let Israel help the Pals prosper and learn to get along as good neighbors and keep the "do gooders" (rest of the world) the hell out.All that happens is Obama, Kerry etc just stir the pot.I remember Clinton stirring the pot in 93 (oslo) and look what it got.
14. Security issues
Alan ,   Tel-Aviv Israel   (12.07.13)
All of the security precautions detailed in this article are not worth their a---s if one Palestinian has wire cutters to neutralize an electronic fence or another shoots a home made arrow at a spy balloon overhead.
15. Should we and could we trust the U.S. for our security
Zev ,   Israel   (12.07.13)
Many Arab and Persian leaders thought they could.
16. The great American joke on Israel
jericho ,   causa   (12.07.13)
Electronic border including surveillance and monitoring can break down by hackers. Arab military like Jordan protection will make it hostage to their whims or MB take over. American or Europe monitors will last as long as melting snow in Saudi. Reliance on the Palis will end in the killing of IDF solders on joint patrol. Don't make WB a place to attack Israel and a launching pad for the next Arab war.
17. Thunderous rejection of Two State Final Solution.
Chaim ,   Israel   (12.07.13)
We got nearly a million people in the streets at a recent funeral. We should have at least two million people surrounding the Knesset to thunderously reject the monstrous Two State Final Solution. It is time for the vast sane Israeli majority to rise up in absolute rejection of the monstrous abomination. This tiny land is ours. Period.
18. global world
Zsolt ,   Wanganui,NZ   (12.09.13)
I am sorry to be negative here but in my opinion these talks are pointless and will not provide any guarantees for many reasons. 1. The US has absolutely no way of giving guarantees any longer, they are not the "global leader", "global policeman" they used to be. Such thing does not exist in a globally interconnected and interdependent world. Either there is a globally achieved and guaranteed agreement after round table discussions involving all parties, or there is no agreement at all. 2. The "Israeli-Palestinian" issue goes way beyond the Israelis and Palestinians. Until there are nations refusing to accept Israel's right to exist, which nations are using the Palestinians as provocateurs and cannon fodders, what difference does it make what a Palestinian "leader" signs? In today's global world there are simply no local, regional, or bilateral problems, conflicts, thus there are no local, regional, bilateral solutions, agreements.
19. Beware when science fiction get real
Eliyahu ,   Los Angeles, USA   (12.09.13)
In Isaac Asimov's 50 year old classic, the Foundation Trilogy, a small new planetary government on the fringe of the galaxy is thought to be guaranteed protection by a diplomatic envoy from the crumbling empire. However, analysis of the diplomatic language demonstrates that nothing whatsoever was promised--they are on their own. In our reality it is not that the US is crumbling, but that it is losing dominant power to a world-wide balance. It is only in this that guarantees can be made, and no one will be expendable in that web of interdependence, because the shock waves would sink everyone. The key is that since we can't stop this program whether we like to or not, it is in our interests to hasten it. This is best done, as well as all foreign policy, by our simple unity--mutual concern, guarantee of Israel, and of world Jewry with it--reflecting that unity to the world at large. We have always been a lead influence on the larger world, but rarely have we tried to do so consciously, in unity. Perhaps in this alone, is the dark subconscious secret why of Antisemitism.
20. Kerry and ISrael
deborah lurya ,   irvine, ca USA   (12.14.13)
Kerry is the angel of death come to render Israel to colony or protectorate status- keeping Israel under her thumb and wearing a tight leash. These taks offer zilch to Israel, abad everything to her opponent and enemy. Freeze all talks, they lead to a bad end for Israel.
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