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German gov't rejects Jewish heirs' demand for art
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Published: 18.12.13, 19:40
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1. nutzism still an way of germania even with democrazy
Moshe ,   Usa   (12.18.13)
2. Germany is ROTTEN to the core...
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (12.18.13)
3. The Germans are the biggest thieves. Robbed my mother
Sami ,   Ex. Vienna, Austria   (12.18.13)
The Germans are the biggest thieves. They robbed my mother 3 times. The Nazis, the Communists and then Helmut Kohl.
4. 2.
Ezra Brouwers-Polak ,   Bat Yam/Tilburg   (12.18.13)
The more I read your posts, the more I think you are in all actuality a very troubled person....In all sincerity. You do remember you are German, I hope?
5. paintings are worth a fortune so use Nazi technicality
zionist forever   (12.18.13)
The fact those paintings were sold to raise money to escape from the Nazis doesn't matter, those people are long dead so they can't lay any guilt trip on the German government. The paintings are worth a fortune which naturally the Government doesn't want t just give way without a fight so they supper Nazi logic of you sold it we keep it and the reason why you sold it doesn't matter to us. I would like to see those people and many other families whose looted art and things sold in desperation to sue the German government get back what belongs to their families not German museums and whoever the government gives formal ownership to.
6. 3
zionist forever   (12.18.13)
My grandparents were Austiran they left and came to the UK after my grandfathers family were all murdered. They lost everything, they were never compensated for their losses. My grandfather died long ago and my father has been trying to get compensation from the Austrian government because there is supposed to be some kind of compensation fund but to get anything out them you have to fight tooth and nail and for over a year of fighting my father decided not worth the stress and of course phone bills so they THEORETICALLY want to do their bit to make up but you want to put theory into practise they won't make it easy.
7. #2 unanswered question
chris (munich)   (12.18.13)
Someone who appears to live in Germany posts "Germany is ROTTEN to the core"? Hard to understand. It does not feel rotten here, or perhaps I am just insensitive. I am writing from Munich where a large new synagogue, admittedly of very defensive architecture, dominates a central square. And if you believe it is rotten, how can you continue to live here?
8. #4...NEVER MIND...I was NEVER a Nazi !
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (12.18.13)
Is this now clear to you ???!!!
9. #4
Sally ,   UK   (12.18.13)
He must be one of these 'self-hating Germans'!
10. #4 Keep reading them, Ezra...
Mark ,   Lodz, Poland   (12.18.13)
Hasimon might drop one day and then you might get it..
11. #8 never a Nazi
chris (munich)   (12.19.13)
Luckily there are many Germans who never were Nazis, or who were born too late for that even to be a question. That is what makes this country more pleasant in some ways than, for example, England. Germans are more thoughtful about the past, less likely to be boastful and narrow minded. Except for the small minority of neo-Nazis, of course.
12. Artworks should be returned.
manicdrummer ,   Haifa, Israel   (12.19.13)
It doesn't matter when or where he sold them. They were stolen and his heirs should get them back.
13. #11, To be a Nazi is a STATE OF MIND !
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (12.19.13)
The Germans are HYPOCRITES...
14. If the heirs
The Kibitzer ,   Adelaide, Australia   (12.19.13)
want the sale annulled, then they must repay the sale price. (Adjusted for inflation of course). It would be interesting to know more about the sale itself but that is another matter.
15. #11 All Austrian Jewish real estate in East Germany stolen
Sami ,   Ex. Vienna, Austria   (12.19.13)
#11 All Austrian Jewish real estate in East Germany was stolen including my mother's building in Berlin. Yes Germany is "rotten to the core" and still Antisemitic to boot. The paintings will never be returned.
16. 11
jonathan ,   adelaide/Israel   (12.19.13)
We have nothing to thank England for.
17. You're under the YNET light, Rettenmoser #8
Cameron ,   USA   (12.19.13)
No evasion, please.
18. #9; Sally...I like myself, but I HATE Germany !
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (12.19.13)
It's as simple as that ...
19. #13 German "hypocrites"
chris (munich)   (12.19.13)
If being a Nazi were JUST a state of mind, then it would be horrible but not dangerous. I just hope you are wrong about the Germans, and that they don't start fighting for Lebensraum again and massacring people. I can't see many signs of that happening here, I am glad to say.
20. To Germans...
Gil ,   Tel Aviv   (12.19.13)
Chris from Bayerisch, Chris from Munich... I and many Israelis and Jews don't hate you. In fact, I really am proud of the Germans for holding their hands up and admitting what they (in the case of ones that were alive in WW2) and today's Germans. Unlike the French, The Greeks, the Poles, the Dutch, the Russians that all gladly rounded up their Jews and sent them off, sometimes doing that before the Germans already arrived. So hats off to our German friends, they are amongst the best allies we have.
21. German government is right
Mikhael Izsak-Dicker ,   Cologne-German   (12.19.13)
It has my support. I am a Jewish heir, too ... but I'm not so dishonest like some others who just want to melk money, money, money ...
22. #6 That's why Germany paid "reparations"
Ich ,   Germany   (12.19.13)
to the state of Israel and Jewish organisations, so that e.g. your father doesn't has to fight alone in front of German (or Austrian) courts. That's the whole idea of "Wiedergutmachung" (a stupid word, I know). You got some sort of (yes, ridiculously tiny) compensation, but only indirectly. From a legal point of view Germany never had to pay reparations to Israel, because both countries never were at war with each other. And you don't think that Germany started to pay compensations in the 60s, because of their bad consciences, do you? At that time. Germany did it (and Israel accepted it), so that millions of Jews and Germans won't fight each other in law suits until the end of time, because that's in nobody's interest. I agree that the whole process was and is unsatisfying, and that many things went and are going wrong. But I fear that anything else - after all what happened - would be a miracle.
23. reparations
DavidR ,   USA   (12.19.13)
HERE IS SOME TRUTH! The entire stinking world owe the Jews reparations, apologies, respect, independence, and many thanks for the technological, moral and intellectual blessings coming from the Jewish people. Most major nations during world war 2 turned their backs on the Jewish people as they were being murdered by the nazi hoard and their islamic allis. Many of the small nations also. I did not live at the time but I still offer my apologies and my heart felt love and respect to the Jewish People. I am not German, but Irish by DNA, however, my country of origin, Ireland is a very anti-semitic nation. I do not share that bit of unfortunate bigotry with them.
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