Opinion  Guy Bechor
Jordan part of the solution
Guy Bechor
Published: 03.01.14, 00:42
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1. Great artiicle - jordanians will receive double donations
Airdrone pilot ,   World   (01.03.14)
Eretz Israel should stick to this proposal, by demanding an explanation regarding why arabs from Judea and Samaria were stripped of their jordanian citizenship. Demand to provide these arabs jordanian cirizenship added by full disengagement withc ontrol over Jordan Valley. much better than these hundred years old piss talks.
2. the author is totally right
stef ,   Paris, France   (01.03.14)
unfortunately, people don't choose life but...all the rest...
3. Jews Also Warriors Seared by Shoah
Zechariah   (01.03.14)
4. This is very familiar solution
Harri ,   EU   (01.03.14)
This "Jordan" solution is a modified "Black Homeland Citizenship Act". It will lead to massive boycotts and finally to the one state solution with the majority of Arab citizens. Don't fool yourself.
5. Jordan IS the solution. That's where Arabs shall live.The
tom ,   tel aviv   (01.03.14)
rest is irrelevant. No "areas" A/B/C as a part of fanciful solutions to nothing! Judea, Samaria are Israel proper and it's about time we claim it loud & clear.
6. Makes sense... which is probably why it won't happen.
Robert ,   USA   (01.03.14)
7. In 1993 the PLO committed to amend its Charter, the one...
N.L.Katz ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (01.03.14)
...whose thrust, since 1964 - three full years prior to the Six-Day War, 1967, and Israel's capturing of the now disputed territories! - has been three fold: (1) Israel's demise. (2) The "cleansing" of the ancestral homeland of the Jewish people of its Jews. (3) The use of all means possible to bring these goals about. Despite the written commitment, the PLO has not yet amended the Charter, and has no plan to do so. Isn't this fact enough to assume the PLO can't be trusted, and that its overall goal is precisely what its Charter calls for? The actions taken by the PLO, when augmented with the PLO Charter only demonstrate even stronger that we are dealing here with a warrior, not a shopkeeper.
8. Jordan is or will be Palestinian
Dan   (01.03.14)
It's true that Israel is the shopkeeper, and there's ample evidence to think the Palestinians are warriors. But if so, they will be warriors against Jordanian shopkeepers as much as Israeli ones: already a majority in Jordan, they will simply turn it into a warrior neighbour. The only answer is to call the warriors' bluff: build up our strength, list our nuclear targets openly, sign a treaty and leave the settlements. When they attack, we can fight back knowing the world supports us, instead of knowing even the USA won't lift a finger.
9. No Salafi Islamic Jihad Fatah Ba'ath or Jewish Fascists
Zechariah   (01.03.14)
10. Las Vegas
Marc   (01.03.14)
The Palestinians and Jordanians will never agree to this. What about Gaza? will it be under Jordanian or Egyptian rule? This is an Israeli fantasy and quite delusional. I do agree that Salafists will happen on WB territory it is a matter of time
11. the whole "Jordan is Palestine" thing
Jeff ,   USA   (01.03.14)
has been argued tirelessly for 40 years now, and literally no one on the planet except for Israeli far right-wingers are buying it... it's not gonna fly.
12. What a crazy article, totally unfounded in reality or fact
EUgirl ,   EU   (01.03.14)
13. To: Dr. Bechor
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (01.03.14)
An excellent opinion piece, to be sure, but I wish to point out one error: the ICJ in The Hague ruled that an irrevocable grant of citizenship (referring to Jordan's 1954 Citizenship Law which bestowed Jordanian citizenship upon all West Bank Arabs and their progeny) is precisely that: irrevocable. West Bank Arabs are Jordanian citizens, to this day. Jordan acknowledges this -- West Bank Arabs traveling abroad do so on Jordanian passports. What country issues passports to non-citizens? That is the crux of the stalemate over Judea and Samaria. We are not talking about stateless people -- the Arabs in Judea and Samaria are Jordanian citizens. Israel has every right to annex Judea and Samaria (given the circumstances of its reacquisition in 1967; i.e., in the course of fighting a defensive war against Jordan), and a concomitant right as a sovereign state to determine who may and who may not live within its declared borders. Again, thank you for an insightful piece. But one expects no less from you!
14. Will not work....
Maurice ,   Montreal   (01.03.14)
As Guy states it, the PA are the "warriors" and they will never accept a Jordanian solution that goes against their will to destroy Israel.
15. Similar to "Nuremberg Laws" depriving Jews of citizenship
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (01.03.14)
16. Israel ha been trying to give back the WB to Jordon
lydia ,   Brisbane   (01.03.14)
The World recognizes the land as Palestinian land. Oslo or no Oslo and Jordon King has refused the same offer time and time again. Why should he accept it now. If you are implying that Israel rather than withdraw from Palestinian land appoints itself Sheriff 'over all it surveys' and the WB will revert to Jordanian rule without a Palestinian mandate, then I think you should give up those wacky tabacky. Either way Israel is providing another whip for its own back.
17. Kool-aid, you drank it
Alex ,   USA   (01.03.14)
What dream world do you live in? If you were a Palestinian (the human beings, not the fictional people you're imagining) would you be okay with that solution? We won't have peace so long as half of Israel continues to use extremely stubborn levels of cognitive dissonance to justify the status quo. Warriors fancying themselves shopkeepers indeed.
18. Earth is calling
Daniel   (01.03.14)
First of all, I wouldn't mind this solution. Not at all, it's great. But that's the "problem", it's the Israeli dream scenario and gives the Arabs nothing. As Guy Bechor lives in an alternative reality nobody else can reach, he might even believe in this but I'm surprised Ynet even prints it. Now we're just waiting for the next column in which the ayatollahs all convert to Judaism and become our allies. Equally 'realistic'.
19. Poor solution
Erez ,   Canada   (01.03.14)
Bad news for Jordan. It's nothing but an imaginary wish. Neither Jordan nor the PA would agree.
20. a sensible argument - problem is getting Jordan to go along
Scott ,   Ramat Gan   (01.03.14)
21. solutions
david ,   london, uk   (01.03.14)
brilliant solution. The Palestinians will never agree to any solution openly, but Jordan has to be part of the resolution. The other idea that might work is similar to Indian Reservations in the USA. Total independence for Palestinians will be a catastrophe for everyone, especially the Palestinians.
22. More TOTAL DELUSION from Israleis
spyguy ,   seattle usa   (01.03.14)
What part of . . . Jordan will NOT do this . . . is so hard for you to understand? Get your head out of your rear and look at this from the Jordanian's perspective. If you were King of Jordan, wanting to retain power and already dealing with many other problems, would you take on this mess? Israel can not pay Jordan enough to do this. Not even the US can pay Jordan enough to do this. Instead of walking around in a delusional cloud, why not realize either, ALL the humans west of the Jordan river are going to be Israeli citizens or the land will be divided and the people of the west bank will be Palestinian citizens. These are your ONLY, repeat ONLY, two options. Anything else you fantasize about is pure crazy delusion.
23. try talking TO Jordan
rm ,   NL Amsterdam   (01.03.14)
instead of loftly telling it what to do! Might work wonders....
24. One Obstacle
Esser Agaroth ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (01.03.14)
There are few problems with this proposal, mainly that Jordan doesn't want them,...just like Egypt didn't want Azza or Arafat.
25. Jordan is the illegal settlement created by Britain.
BUTSeriously ,   Sydney   (01.03.14)
The Balfour must be restored, a Coptic 2-state created in East Egypt and all regimes created by Britain last century be re-examined. Britain caused the deaths of millions and walks out whistling.
26. the article is based on the idea we can force Jordan
zionist forever   (01.03.14)
By 1988 King Hussain already decided to write off Judea & Samaria. He probably didn't support the war in 1973 because he didn't want to get into another war to liberate land he didn't need, especially as the PLO had tried to topple him in 1970. Get rid of the land & get rid of the PLO. It MIGHT be possible to solve things if Abdullah gave citizenship to the ex Jordanians & there descendants but he doesn't wasn't to & we can't force him to. It WOULD solve the problem if Israel agreed to become a religion neutral binational state for all but if we don't want it and cannot be forced to accept it. This article is based on the THEORY we can order Jordan to take them back.
27. Guy Bekhor forgot the Jews thrown out from ME
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28. What could Palestinians do in a peace situation
(01.03.14)
They would be totally lost. Starve and reduce the size of their broods.
29. 25
zionist forever   (01.03.14)
if we want Balfour then we will get a single binational state for all in which arabs would be the majority. Balfour spoke about a Jewish. HOMELAND not a STATE. If the arabs hadn't rejected Balfour zionism probably would have died. Early zionists were mostly secular Jews looking for a safe haven to escape the pogroms, once they got their homeland zionism would no longer be desirable because it would spoil the new found harmony the Jews had with the arabs. Without the secular support ideologiical zionism would never have got a foothold because the seculars would not risk harmony for a religious ideology.
30. Smart, sensible, just solution - never gonna happen
Jake ,   USA   (01.03.14)
The Arab parties are not interested in a just solution. They are interested in destroying Israel. There is at least one country that can stand up and demand this as a formula for peace. That country is Israel, but its leaders are too busy fantasizing about the "special bond" with America to dare deviate from the suicidal two-state formula.
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