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Kerry: Israel, Palestinians make progress towards framework deal
Elior Levy
Published: 04.01.14, 18:48
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1. We enjoy better peace without Kerry
David ,   Shiloh Israel   (01.04.14)
Why do these Nobel Prize seeking idiots think they know better than those actually living in the region? No one has bothered to ask the views of us Jews living here? Well, we won't be treated like garbage on someone else's property. WE have more rights to this land than Kerry does to his. We are also sick of being the subject of any foreigeners idae of a 'solution' - yes sure get rid of us. Well think again. We live in a part of Israel where the Maccabeans fought against Hellenizers. So even Jews celebrating Xmas and the international New Year, should understand that Jews have a far more important link with Israel than sending us dollars and thinking that gives you a right to decide where we should live. The best solution is to allow local Jews and Arabs actually living in the 'disputed' terrotories, to work out our own security arrangements. The Israeli left hate Arabs and prefer to kick them out of Israel through land swap programs. Well. we can tolerate local Arabs who are straight with their ideals, more than international minded Jews who swing upon the dispersing wind of arrogant opinion. With or without our settlements, Jews will still be condemed. If you can't see that giving away the central part, the heartland of Israel, will cause immense damage, than you are the one's who should abandoning your homes, not us. We know where we belong!!!
2. Kerry is deluding himself - talk is cheap !
Arn. ,   Sweden.   (01.04.14)
3. Here's How It Really Works
emanon ,   USA   (01.04.14)
The arabs don't want peace with Israel. Whatever Abbas agrees to, PLO or hamas say "Abu Mazzen does not speak for us. We don't agree." If Kerry gets an agrrement with either of those groups, some heretofore unknown group surfaces and claims to be the voice of the arabs in Gaza and they declare jihad against Jews because they were not included in the negotiaions. And so it goes.
4. Not "mutual recognition" but specific recognition of JEWISH
Alan ,   SA   (01.04.14)
State. I want to see Pals recognise Israel as a Jewish State.Thats a laugh!
5. McCain trying to stop deployment of US Troops in West Bank
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (01.04.14)
6. 10 visits, 20 negotiation session - all were making progress
Eric ,   Tel Aviv & NYC   (01.04.14)
Somehow only Kerry seems to think that the talks are "making progress" - the chief negotiators don't. So what does Mr. Kerry know that no one else does?
7. I think Saudis summoned K to object to his Jordan Valley
Alan ,   SA   (01.04.14)
plans and ideas I reckon Jordan King complained to Saudi that Jordan was very unhappy with the idea that Pals take over control of Jordan/J-S border They all know that it will be bad news for Jordan. They realise the Salafi Hamas Gang will destabilise the area and Saudi is NOT keen on this Kerry is "pretending" that he is going to talk to Saudis... I say he was told to move fast to Riyadh to hear what Saudi King thinks
8. # 4 Sooo true pals would rather die than recognize Israel...
BUILD BABY BUILD ,   United States   (01.04.14)
and, they do... And, no one really cares because no one has any use for pal terrorists.
9. Next round Kerry will wear his G_D suit and ask us to bow to
LOL ,   Israel   (01.04.14)
him......... FORGETABOUTIT Save the American taxpayers some money. STAY HOME
10. The Kerry Go 'round
RayS ,   USA   (01.04.14)
With all the USA's problems worldwide ,one might think the Sec of State would have something else to do besides pounding on Israel. But it seems that his boss (Pres Obama) is set on destroying Israel as his primary task in life.
11. # 6 Eric Kerry needs an excuse a distraction
BUILD BABY BUILD ,   United States   (01.04.14)
to stay away from his wife and obama and obama care ..... Kerry and obama are two failures on a large stage littered with similar ego maniacs who thought they, unlike all others before them, could make 'friends' of bitter enemies. The only thing left is to sweep the crap off that stage when these two flop backwards into the history books will make a footnote of their recorded failures. GET EVEN BUILD MORE !!!!
12. # 4 Sooo true pals would rather die than recognize Israel...
BUILD BABY BUILD ,   United States   (01.04.14)
and, they do... And, no one really cares because no one has any use for pal terrorists.
13. #5
Don Saliman ,   nahaloz, israel   (01.04.14)
We don't need or want American troops in the what you call the west bank
14. There's still an important issue.
"Jonah" ,   Jerusalem   (01.04.14)
What were the circumstances of land relinquishment's in Arab countries by Jews between 1948 and 1952? Were the Jews forced to leave their lands without payment, or were they sold for fair market prices or for pennies on the dollar? Have Palestinians that fled due to looming war instigated by Arab countries with Jews benefited from these lands? Reports are that 650,000 Palestinians exited the land in or around 1948 and 850,000 Jews entered the land due to varying insecurities or to help establish Israel between 1948-1952. This is important in determining this "Right of Return" that's spoken of. Israelis and Palestinians need to develop long-term goals not to allow the situation to become aggravated to the point of like Syria and Egypt. There's a vision that comes with the Holy Scriptures, it's a beautiful one and we need to try to see it happen. Every man, woman and child needs the opportunity to live the "Holy". Zion is a name that can be used for Eretez Israel with Israel and Palestine. The Palestinians can help Israel to succeed for the same benefits as Israel. This would be in line with the Holy Scriptures as Esau and Jacob and define the "righteousness" of the Quran.
15. IE: Israel will become an indefensible entity..
Al   (01.04.14)
16. With Faluja+Anbar Province+Ramadi in AQ hands,control of
Alan ,   SA   (01.04.14)
Jordan Valley cant be left in Pal Hands...It will be a disaster
17. Prospects for Peace
Syd Chaden ,   Palermo Calif USA   (01.04.14)
Kerry says that the prospects for settling differences between the Israelis and the Palestinians are good, but, I have to question that. How can the prospects be good when the Islamic doctrine of "death to infidels" is not even on the agenda, or being discussed. The doctrine is the root cause of the current killing in Pakistan, Yemen, Iraq, Egypt, Libya, Mali, Sudan, Nigeria, Lebanon and Syria. It began long before there was a modern state of Israel, or "Palestinians", and it will continue whether there is one state, two states, or no states. Western leaders ignore the doctrine, because they don't know what to do about it. It is religious, and therefore, is not susceptible to diplomacy, or even war. The Muslim World takes the doctrine very seriously. The two major branches of Islam, the Sunnis and the Shia, each consider the other to be infidels, and they have been killing each other for centuries, for that reason. Some academics and theologians contend that the doctrine exempts "People of the Book", i.e. Christians and Jews, but the recent Fatwas of prominent Muslim clerics make it clear that "infidels" means "non-believers in Islam". Since it is a religious doctrine, only those who have authority in the religion, Islam, can change it. It would take a concerted redefinition of the doctrine by leading Sunni and Shia clerics, so as to not require the killing of "non-believers in Islam". That would have to be followed by Fatwas which prohibit the killing of "non-believers" because they are "non-believers". The likelihood of there ever being such a concerted action by Sunni and Shia clerics is not great. But, it is far greater than the likelihood that the two-state talks being conducted by Kerry will have any beneficial effect.
18. Must be some rich widow...
jhimmi al-carter ,   Atlanta, USA   (01.04.14)
in kerry's sights that's when he's definitely making progress - only deluding / fleecing said widow of her fortune
19. Obama is desparate to make a deal, any deal
CJK   (01.04.14)
obama imagines himself to be the super diplomat. he imagines that he made a so-called interim deal with the genocidal shia terror regime, but said deal has not even been finalised. nor wil said deal put an end to iran's nuclear weapons program. obama also imagines that he can make a deal to create a new arab palestinian terror state. however, said deal is only a so-called "framework," a deal to make a deal. the "framework" will not solve the murderous intent of muslims to annihlate the jewish state, any more than the elimination of bin laden put an end to al qaeda and its salafist sister organisations. indeed, obama will be remembered as the one who presided over the unspeakable genocide in syria and the resurgence of al qaeda world wide, including in iraq, his support of al qaeda's mother, the muslim brotherhood. for now, obama has the power of the presidency and a slavish press, but not forever.
20. Bibi PLEASE tell Kerry, that he is a laughing
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (01.04.14)
stock and that NOBODY takes him serious !
21. # 7 Alan, The pretense is worth something but, not much
BUILD BABY BUILD ,   United States   (01.04.14)
The Saudi's, Arab Gulf States, have already allied with Israel meaning, the pals have no importance when it comes to their mutual security. Saudis will make some noise re: pals but, in actual fact, they could give a hoot about paying the pals to harm their most valued ally, Israel and her military. So, looks like the pals are out of luck. BUILDING A BIGGER PARADISE BABY !!!
22. Palestinian Autonomy UN seat InternaTional Security
Zechariah   (01.04.14)
23. Well have you evah......?
Gideon Reader   (01.04.14)
...sniffed such a truck load of horse, bull & mule hockey? Progress? Gimme a break here woncha? There is as much progress as I am making teaching my Siamese cat to Tap dance. Silly. Just silly. Facts are annoying things and a short expenditure of time will quickly outline the idiocy of John FN Kerry and his chin wags, regarding PEACE. Progress means that Peace actually has occured. That has not happened in any sector and is not lokely to. What a dolt he is.
24. We will se how much progress will be made-
Arn. ,   Sweden.   (01.05.14)
-after the last Terrorists are Released. I Quote - Kerry: Israel, Palestinians make progress towards framework deal After Saturday meeting with Abbas, US Secretary of State John Kerry says Israel and the Palestinians have made progress towards a framework peace agreement, but are not there just yet. Comment - not just yet -exactly !. Arn.
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