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Meet the IAF's new training jet: The Lavi
Yoav Zitun
Published: 20.03.14, 20:34
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1. Failed?
Hansje   (03.20.14)
The "Lavi project" didn't fail. The US didn't want to finance the Lavi out of fear that the plane was better than the F16. The Lavi still "lives" today and is built in China...
2. Israel needs to build its own war planes
CJK   (03.20.14)
israel should stop depending on the us for its air force.
3. Israel's trainers are better than Iran and Syria's airforce
Sean ,   Phoenix   (03.20.14)
4. Pinhead @1 ,...
split ,   US   (03.20.14)
F-16, first flight in 1974, in service in 1978 - Lavi, first flight 12 years later in 1986, never in service ,... Note the time required for tests from the first flight to an approval for service and think about your ridiculous hasbara claims ,...
5. Why can't Israel make their own planes?
Zion Warrior ,   Earth   (03.20.14)
6. above
moishe   (03.20.14)
fantastic plane for trainer and support. better with Israel retrofit. possibly best trainer and ground support. Israel pilots make it even better. wise choice.
7. To nr 4 Flawed logic pinhead
Alexander ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (03.21.14)
Only because F-16 was created years before Lavi, doesn't make F-16 "better". Lavi was a considerably more modern aircraft, at that time, established several years later, and on top of that more lethal than their American counterparts. There are documents and records that prove that USA pressured Israel into giving up this project. A superpower does't pressure a tiny industrialized nation to give up a project unless the superpower perceives this to be a threat to its military industry - pinhead. Lavi was never in service because the US government pressured Israel into giving up this project. Why? So that Israel would continue purchasing American fighter jets. It means that there were several schnorrers in the US administration - just like there are several Polish schnorrers today that refuse to pay back hundreds of billions of dollars stolen from the Jews by the Poles and the Germans. Again you are trivializing Israeli/Jewish accomplishments, because of your greed and jealousy. Again you are spreading pure lies or taking facts out of their context. Again you use foul language against Jews. Again you accuse the Jews - who speak facts by the way - not lies, of being involved in government finances "hasbara activities". Your claims aren't true, but let's pretend they are - why do you use such foul language and why do speak of "hasbara" and why do you direct your hatred against Jews and Israel? See split - you're not fooling anyone. Another perfect excuse for hating Jews - Lavi fighter jets. Next time its Kaganovich and Solomon's temple. You even claimed that Martin Cooper was "Polish" or "Ukrainian" because of his parents' names! Even Jews can be called Maria and Arthur! And he doesn't look Slavic. He looks Jewish. Have you seen the pictures of Martin Cooper? I guess not. Now a Pole on Native American soil is trying to steal Jewish accomplishments and turn them into Polish ones. Once a schnorrer always a schnorrer. By the way, what exact accomplishments can Poland take credit for, for the past 50-60 years in modern technology - including military technology, computers, hardware and software? Ooops! I'd guess, your fellow goons aren't capable of more than installing poorly made gutters.
8. "the deal also included American financial aid"
Cameron ,   USA   (03.21.14)
Like the sun rising & the tide coming in.
9. 7
(03.21.14)
i salute you my israeli friend. pinhead from polasky indeed needed a lesson steeped in facts, not his constant conspiracy fantasies. then again, why would anyone expect anything from a hog farming mentality?
10. Sad to see the "Scooter" go
neal ,   minneapolis usa   (03.21.14)
The Skyhawk is a dandy little airplane, but really a product of post Korean War design. It performed valiantly over North Vietnam, but was somewhat too vulnerable to missiles and ground fire. Continued use by the IDF is a testament to its excellent design and, with the hump added to its back for more hardware, its adaptability. Farewell, Scooter. You've been a trouper.
11. the Lavie failed because of cost
Maurice Solovitz ,   London, England   (03.21.14)
I remember the debate as it raged in the Israeli press around the announcement of its cancellation. As a status symbol it was huge but its costs were enormous and Israel could not afford it. As an aside, there were fears with the cancellation of the project that all the development engineers would run off to South Africa to live....
12. Speaking of costs...
Maurice Solovitz ,   London, England   (03.21.14)
in addition to the whole question of costs and competing with American designs - I have not noticed the expression of outrage around the Iron Dome promise of more funds from the USA...the $426 million Israel agrees to having the drones manufactured in the USA - Is that technology transfer going to benefit Israel or her enemies and commercial competitors? It really is time that Israel said, just once, thank you but no thank you!
13. Alexander
Barry ,   Tokyo   (03.21.14)
Alexander, you nailed it with your observation of Poland. Aside from vodka and pork sausages, I can't think of anything worthwhile coming out of that cursed nation of drunken thugs. Spit serves a proof to my point.
14. Bet Shemesh
Tim ,   Jerusalem   (03.23.14)
The 'killing ' of the Lavi Project also killed Bet Shemesh Engines (Israeli jet engine manufacturer). Pratt&Whitney pushed Very Hard for that...
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