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Abbas: We will not agree to anything short of a fully autonomous Palestinian state
Elior Levy
Published: 22.03.14, 19:14
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1. All Palestinians have to do is keep reproducing
Yeoshua F. ,   N.Y   (03.22.14)
Make love not war. Numbers are what´s going to define the fate of this land, not politics and lobbies. The Palestinians don´t need to worry about borders, sovereignty or refugees, when they become a clear majority in the land of Israel, which will happen in several years, the rules of the game will change drastically. Israel will never give up anything unless it has a gun to it´s head, it´s our nature, we are naturally and culturally greedy people who do not believe in ¨giving¨ unless we are threatened to do so. When the numbers begin threatening, you will see Israel all of a sudden willing to offer ¨compromises¨ like never before. Be patient.
2. All or nothing. Then you get nothing.
Ben S ,   Free World   (03.22.14)
3. feiglin is right
yeheskel   (03.22.14)
feiglin is right on what to do. Get themoving vans out for occupied judea and samaria and onto amman voluntary departures. Putin would do it.
4. #1 yeoshua
solomon ,   bklyn   (03.22.14)
You forget about Israel leaving Gaza. That didn't work out too well, did it? The "Pals" were offered compromises so generous that even Clinton was amazed. You either have a short memory or a selective one. I vote for the second choice.
5. Arab Palestinians fail to understand
CJK   (03.22.14)
they are simply a group of people who have no real rights under international law. neither obama nor the eu nor the un can create states. the arab palestinians do not fulfil the requirements for statehood: a permanent population, a defined territory, a government, a capacity to eneter into treaties. the arab palestinians lack the requirements of a state since they were never sovereign and never had a state. the territory they claim for their state was never a sovereign arab palestinian state. that territory was under the authority of successive various colonial powers. the last sovereigns of that territory were jewish under jewish kingdoms. the arab palestinians have no rightful claim to the holy city of jerusalem, seat of zion. jerusalem was built by king david and has been the seat of jewish spiritual and physical center. jerusalem was conquered by the arabs who built a mosque on top of the remnants of the two jewish temples as a sign of conquest and religious superiority. the arabs were expelled from jerusalem by the ottoman empire which in turn was defeated and expelled by the allies in wwi. hence, any arab claim to jerusalem is totally without legal foundation.
6. Why not assure the security of our 20% Arab population
exUK ,   TEL AVIV   (03.22.14)
Surely this would then not be used as excuse not to negotiate.There is nothing to be gained by not doing this if we are sincere in our quest for a peaceful solution.
7. Time is running out for a solution.
Gabe ,   Canada   (03.22.14)
Abbas will exercise his national rights in Jordan or somewhere else, but not in Israel. All it will take is someone with balls. The world will get used to it.
8. #1 doubt your a jew, who happen to give more charity than an
Naftulee ,   Jerusalem   (03.22.14)
jews happen to give more charity than any other people I know, your comments masked as a jewish person are nothing but typical antisemitism.
9. Fooled again!
albert snow ,   sweden   (03.22.14)
What a laugh! Abbas fooled Netanyahu, Livni, Peres, Obama, Kerry, the EU and so on. The one that doesn´t learn from history is bound to repeat the same mistakes. The israeli government has acted stupid not adapting the Levy report and neglected defending Israels legal rights. Noone that read the PLO, Fatah, Hamas etc. charter, look at their emblems, see the incitments in school and summer camps, would have trusted Abbas one second, and definitly don´t make any concessions letting murderor out of prison just for the sake of having him negotiate. They have all the time had their strategi clear; mening go to UN and the ICJ. Now it´s time for plan B meaning standing up for Israels legal rights contrary to the sins of earlier governments not standing up for them. But who knows maybe it´s to late. Because when israeli governments for decades didn´t protest against palestinian lies about occupation the world thinks they`re right. If you don´t protest you agreé! Israel seems to be a loser having to meet hard times. Sorry, but these stupid sins will show to be very costly for the jewish state.
10. The pals want to make an apartheid state
Beary White ,   Norway   (03.22.14)
..where only Islamic-cult-followers are allowed to live, and where they can kill each other when ii is an arab spring every year.. Let it be so, and let all the pals move from Israel, and have Amman as their deadly state of apartheid and killings. There is no need for negotiations, the pals do NOT want to live in peace, as always abu masen continues on his deadly track..
11. #1, You are out too late..
Beary White ,   Norway   (03.22.14)
The followers of the islamic-cult have already reproduced far more than the rest of the world. Just ref to the islamic-cult-followers in UK, Sweden, Belgium, Netherland, Denmark, Germany. I will love to see when the "arab-spring" of killings start in these European countries and the true face of the islamic demagogy is revealed for the western leaders. Where will the leaders deport the islamic-cult-followers? into Jordan, Pakistan?? And as you know Pakistan is a hot-bed of terrorism...just populated by cult members.
12. Ends talks. Annex WB Settlements
Memphis slim ,   Memphis, TN -USA   (03.22.14)
Declare remaining WB -X Jordan Valle part of Jordan/Palestian
13. NATO must displace IDF in West Bank, protect Arabs from Jews
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (03.22.14)
14. Abbas
Alan ,   ohio   (03.22.14)
Full autonomy is right around the corner in Palestine/Jordan. See ya
15. all or nothing
jochair   (03.22.14)
Palestinians will not aqchieve: a state of their own, jerusalem their capital. withdrawal of troops,
16. Israel should not be releasing prisoners...
Corey ,   Canada   (03.22.14)
during the negotiations. These people want Israel destroyed and will continue to work to that goal as long as a peace agreement is not in place. This makes no sense. Prisoners should only be released once a peace agreement, with full END OF CONFLICT, is agreed upon.
17. abbas-you are next
gordie   (03.22.14)
when feiglin takes o ver, you and your entire corrupt gang that shimon peres brought from turnisia better be gone or you will find yourselves buried underground. The era of peres/galon and bibi pacifists is coming to an end. Bibi's housekeepers know the truth that bibi is a weak kneed wimp who only got a pass because of his brother Everything he does is weak, appeasement. Begin and shamir was half his size, yet he continues on like the coward he is taking instruction from the empty windbag kerry with his iron maiden psaki. israel either is going to exercise soveriegnty and act like a country or ceast to exist. Half of isaelis are afraid and suck up to obama and kerry. The other half are brave patriots. Ask ukrainians what they think of US assurances??? israelis- decide before it is too late. Likud, find a quick way to throw out bibi and install feiglin, bennett, shamir or yaalon as leaders. Bibi as sherman wrote, should be titled benjamin peres.
18. That's your final offer? Well, OK then.
Gideon Reader   (03.22.14)
All talks should be broken off, instanter. Or even sooner. Why bust one's nutz dealing with an obstinate, hostile and intransgient, as well as impossibly stupid and corrupt "Peres'ian Partner". And that's just John EFFEN Kerry. Strongly worded opinion to follow.
19. # 13 Over the NATO dead bodies !
BUILD BABY BUILD   (03.22.14)
Arabs need protection from other Arabs. KEEP BUILDING !!!!
20. #5 to CJK
yosef, phd ,   florida - israel   (03.22.14)
Right on. Great article, CJK. Furthermore, Palestinian gvmt. seems to be suffering from a serious mental condition, called Paranoid Schizophrenia. In other words: it may belong in an asylum, possibly for criminally insane. Nothing to add: The world has had enough of these shnorrers.
21. Place their Knife at your throat?
Sahmi ,   Mumbai, India   (03.22.14)
I think the Israelis need to understand that giving up land in such a tiny country is akin to putting an enemy's knife closer to your own throat. The Jews were slaughtered in the previous century, it would be crazy for them to tempt fate again by sacrificing their current position of strength. (Also, please tell your children to do a better job of cleaning up after themselves when visiting India).
22. # 13 Over the NATO dead bodies !
BUILD BABY BUILD   (03.22.14)
Arabs need protection from other Arabs. KEEP BUILDING !!!!
23. Arab and Islam Rejected Jewish Escape.
Zechariah   (03.22.14)
The Jewish State is a Reaction to the Rejection of a enmasse escape of Jews from nazi occupied Europe for Temporary Refugee in all Islamic Lands from Palestine to Afghanistan through Turkey .The Jewish State will fight all Forces that Intend to Destroy its People while allowing all in Islam who want to live in Peace with the Jews Peace Well Being and Religious Freedom .
24. #21 Israeli tourists
(03.22.14)
in India are only practicing "when in Rome, do as the Romans do". When the residents of a country defecate in the streets, where should the tourists do it??
25. perfect solution
aaron ,   toronto,canada   (03.22.14)
Since oblaba loves these murdering palis I suggest sending them ALL to DEERBORN MICHIGAN, they have lots of free housing there and still live with their brethren..
26. What many don´t understand.
albert snow ,   sweden   (03.22.14)
It´s not jews against arabs; it´s jews, christians and druze against islam.
27. #1 Your Palestinian science project
Cynthia ,   USA   (03.22.14)
The average Gaza family includes 5-6 children. Gaza has 65% unemployment and women elect not to work. The self-directed terror campaign and industry has created a poor business environment for the Palestinians. Egypt has closed the smuggling tunnels from their end and Israel justifiably maintains a blockade. The overpopulation combined with financial mismanagement and hostility toward neighbors brings the Palestinians poverty, water shortage, chronic unemployment and sustained dependence with no independent state in sight.
28. No5 so the UN cannot create state now?
Non Jewish immigrant ,   Haifa   (03.22.14)
So why Israel is existing at all?
29. Tell it like it is :
NilsG ,   Helsingborg, Sweden   (03.22.14)
"The Palestinian leadership will not agree to anything". Period. Concessions are of no worth. To me, and I will confess that I am a European observer, nothing else, it appears that Israel gives concessions again and again, frees terrorists, criminals, murderers even, while the PA's Abbas looks like he has been offered a shifty falafel ... going nowhere at the speed of light.
30. Abbas returned to the 3 NOs = end of talks!
Michael Redbourn ,   Lisbon Portugal   (03.23.14)
Abbas said ‘no’ to Obama on 3 core peace issues. Rejecting Kerry framework, Palestinian leader reportedly told US president he won’t recognize ‘Jewish Israel,’ abandon ‘right of return,’ or commit to ‘end of conflict’
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