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US officials: We can't stop Palestinian UN statehood bid if talks fail
Attila Somfalvi, AFP
Published: 30.03.14, 01:38
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1. Obama is a CRIMINAL himself !
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (03.29.14)
2. "The Americans are demanding that Israel show flexibillity"t
CJK   (03.29.14)
the obama regime is intent on forcing their dictates on the jewish state of israel. they want israel to release a further hundred convicted mass murdering terrorists, an unprecedented demand by one sovereign state of another sovereign state. should israel refuse this demand, the obama regime threatens that they will not be able to stop the arabs from going to the un to demand a state. in fact, the united states has a veto in the security council. hence what the obamas are threatening is refusal to exercise their veto. the new york times which is the propaganda arm of the obama regime threatens a pax obama which would unilaterally set israel's borders on the 1949 armistice lines and recognition of jerusalem as a joint capital of both states. someone should inform the new york times that obama does not have the legal authority to set borders, create states, or deprive a sovereign state of its territories, or of its state capital.
3. Obama the vainglorious narcissist
CJK   (03.29.14)
obama is really convinced that he can create an arab palestinian state out of thin cloth and deprive the jewish state of the holy city of jerusalem.
4. to hell with kerry
marv   (03.29.14)
israel can handle itself and should tell kerry to piss off as all he does is squeeze israel when abbas diggs in. kerry is a coward for not being able to look abbas in the eye. he flinches every time. Obama who would not release pollard, pushed bibi to apologize, yaalon toapologize, and bibi to say sorry to erdogan and pay damages. you could barely get a more gutless Pm except for olmert and if he dares to release 400 prisoners or even formally offers it, bennet will leave as well as there will be a huge revolt in likud and some in beitenu. You want to go with herzog, galon and the arabs, go ahead you weakling.
5. go ahead
alsky ,   toronto   (03.29.14)
im sure Israel can think of a few ways to counter act A jihadi in a suit is far more dangerous than Hamas
6. Just say no.
Birdi ,   Israel   (03.29.14)
7. Prisoner releases wil not form an agreement.
David Manuel ,   Jerusalem   (03.29.14)
It's apparent now that the prisoner releases are all the Palestinians are looking to accomplish by extending the negotiations. Should the prisoners be released, there still won't be an agreement and it could get to the United Nations anyway. The international community should be able to see what's happening here. There are friends and family that would like to see prisoners released just like there are friends and family that would like to have their loved ones killed in these terror attacks back too, but that's not possible. Palestinians and Israelis are going to have to decide what is going to be the Law. By Jewish and Islamic accounts, the penalties would have been death (there's a reluctance even typing the word). The prisoner release is not going to make the negotiations work. Israel's best choice is going to be to face the consequences and plead for the understanding to have a presence in the West Bank for security purposes and try to do more than the PA is doing to make better lives for Palestinians and Israelis. A totally sovereign Palestinian "state"/ "country" isn't acceptable given the past comments of people in current leadership positions. There could wind up being total chaos and anarchy with weapons and a terrible threat. People where they are at now need to be taken care of instead of just thinking millions of more people can just come in. How many people can amply be "taken care of"? This is a question every nation is going to have to face and do it.
8. I thought UN was created to guard World from fascist putches
Miron ,   USA   (03.29.14)
like the one that US just instigated in Ukrain. I don't see how UN, in its present time format, enabling such fascist murder and dismemberment of elected governments, can be of any use but another tool in the hands of fascists. UN is no longer an tool of peace and law. It is now, one must put diagnosis, became a tool of fascism. Even Bush, in his vision of Iraq debackle, understood risks and did not rely on UN when going on questionable adventures. And he, never used UN to enable illegal activities, such as Saakashvili's genocidal attack in Georgia on a nation that has 75,000 souls to it, total. Obama is immature individual, ignorant of how hard it was to create UN, and for what ends meet. His failed ambitions have stolen from our world what little we did muster to put barriers in the way of fascists, like Yatzenuk Tiagnibock and Klichko.
9. US: Not can't - but "won't"
Israel Watchdog ,   Akko, Israel   (03.30.14)
They say, US: We won't be able to stop Palestinian UN statehood bid if talks fail. It's not can't, it's a veiled threat that they won't! So much for the promise of always sticking by Israel.
10. Arabs recognize Jewish State for release of non Israeli Arab
GZLives   (03.30.14)
11. If UN can grant Pals" Statehood",why is Israel allowing them
Alan ,   SA   (03.29.14)
to blackmail her with all the demands. There is obviously nothing that can be done by US, or any other power on earth, to prevent the Pals from going this route at UN..Is this stalling and peace talk story just postponing the inevitable application to UN.. Sounds to me like feeding the crocodile hoping it will eat you last .If Pals can get a quick fix at UN why should they carry on talks with Israel?Israel must have a plan B to show the Pals the unfavourable consequences of going to UN,Icc etc. ...I don't know what it should be It sounds to me that Israel is like someone being milked by a blackmailer.Pathetic..
12. Can we get legal opinion on agreement
Martin SA   (03.30.14)
what is the legal effect of the peace process agreement besides release of prisoners. A paper was signed by PA WH Administration and BB/Israeli cabinet. What do the PA have to deliver if anything during the 9 months to have met process requirements?. Pa have done the a talk the talk and no concessions. Does that meAn they have met their side of the agreement. So they could go to the UN after the release as well. Sounds like we signed a stupid agreement.
13. Pollard first!
Lila ,   Jerusalem. Israel   (03.30.14)
We give and give and give and give and give and give to the Arabs and have received nothing in return. Now, it's time for the US to give us Pollard BEFORE anything else proceeds in this idiotic "piss" process.
14. If the United States won't veto maybe Russia will
Dror ,   Haifa, Israel   (03.30.14)
The United States funds the UN. Therefore the UN is under the control of the United States. Israel needs to wake the hell up. The US manipulates the UN to get its way in the world. The IMF is the extortion wing of the US Govt. Stanley Fisher should know since he has always been an insider.
15. Goddamn Obama and Kerry cont.
Dror ,   Haifa, Israel   (03.30.14)
correction... May you drown as did Pharaoh in the Sea of reeds not the Nile. The blood curse of the Nile will befall you as well, very soon... Yo arrogant bastards.
16. American threats again.
Norbus ,   Jerusalem   (03.29.14)
USA, an empire in a downhill slide threatens its tiny ally! If the world will no longer abide by international law, then its dog eat dog. Israel won't lie down to allow Jews to be massacared
17. This old ugly Kerry man is deceiving Israel
Anna M sedda ,   Rome-Italy   (03.30.14)
This looser son of a lier,Kerry man,should go back home in US with a big LOL..!!!! He is the son of a lie,His father is the Devil and the deceiver of the Jews... He should get a kick in His bolloks with Obama Wagamama,the man Who deceived and could not be a President of US but the President of Kenia ,in Africa
18. Hold on!
milwaukeebroad ,   Haifa, Israel   (03.30.14)
Israel didn't need UN recognition to become a Jewish state. Neither the UN nor any other Gentile organization supersedes G-d's authority. In the coming two years, they will find out very quickly that their arms are too short to box with G-d.
19. Since July
Arnold Canada ,   Montreal   (03.30.14)
Why is it taking so long that now Israel is dropping its pants by offering more prisoners to be released. Something smells here. I am losing faith in the present government.
20. If the US doesn't VETO - Dems will lose Jewish vote
GZLives   (03.30.14)
for a long long long time - and they won't like that. My guess is all of this is US bluff ... American people support for Israel very strong. Dems will never allow Obama regime to screw Israel over. It will change the electoral calculation for decades and Obama will have a cursed legacy
21. Pals reject/USA pressures Israel? No, just NO.
mea   (03.30.14)
22. If the U.S "can't stop" a non existent people
michael   (03.30.14)
from going to the U.N than it should not be mediating.
23. Everyone loves us! We don't need America!
ZionistBob ,   Israel   (03.30.14)
Russia loves us. China loves us. The Europeans love us! We're the most likeable people ever! We should say NO to the Muslim Obama and turn to one of many, many other friends. WE ARE JEWS AND EVERYBODY LOVES US!
24. Livni please reveal the agreement handed to BB & cabinet
Martin SA   (03.30.14)
Sounds like a capitulation agreement ie 9 months 400 prisoners and then PA go to UN to be recognised as the US have no built in leverage. Next they go and declare control over greater palestine. It seems we are the laughing stock thanks to you & BB. Am I dreaming a bad dream? They have not made a concession just talk & talk. You bought in, for the benefit of your people?? Our minis-tress of injustice we can thank? Yes if Kerry says he cant stop them when not one concession is made then like we signed a stupid agreement. What leverage is there if the prisoner are released?? How is it possible that our politicians are so naïve as to agree to this process?.
25. The demands are garbage
James ,   USA   (03.30.14)
The USA is sitting on the precipice and may alienate it's only reliable ally in the Middle East in order to promote more of Obamas failed policy's. It is in no position to set Israel's borders nor are the Arabs, the UN, NATO etc. Israel will consistently remind itself why Zionism came to be and defend itself by any means. The PA always intended to go to international bodies and the instrangent attitude is evident. The world should note that nothing will change unless it is brought about by the spilling of blood. Both sides are aware of this but the loser can only be the Palestinians. No one, either by force, threats or embargoes will be able to change this. If they think otherwise they are dreaming. So shall it be written so shall it be done.
26. To no 2 and 3
y Allon ,   cairns-Austraalia   (03.30.14)
Your posts are good and I agree with you but of course Bibi will hm and hr but will do what the US wants.The prisoners will be released thats for sure.Israel's negotiation team is not as strong as Abbas because Abbas knows what he wants and does not change his demands.The American people are behind Israel but unfortunately for US and Israel Obama is pure evil and controls Bibi.The Quran says Israelis for Jews and No mention of Jerusalem o r Palestine in the Quran.Even King Hussein's father said Jordan is Palestine.Israel simply has not got the right PM who is willing to say NO to all this nonsense and stupidity and bring up the facts that Abbas deserves nothing.
27. Naive Israelis
Harvey ,   London   (03.30.14)
Abbas played you like a fish on a line . This was always about getting his cut throats released in the knowledge that he would never sign a peace deal . Better to have frozen the settlement construction rather than releasing murderers as a prerequisite for the PA to enter into negotiations .
28. Israeli Blackmail?
Reuven Brauner ,   Raanana, Israel   (03.30.14)
Oy vey. We have to release terrorists and murderers just to get them to "talk" and they are accusing us of blackmail? What evil people. Back off, Mr. Kerry. You are being played for the fool by the Arabs and a tool in their hands to mess up Israel.
29. @23 funny thought. What were they talking in Germany in 1933
Miron ,   USA   (03.30.14)
and how did it help... A unified front against aggressor supporting fascists counts for something.
30. A queston to the Obama/Kerry duo: When have the Arabs shown
N.L.Katz ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (03.30.14)
any degree of flexibility? When have they made any concession toward peace? In fact, let alone tangible concessions and let me ask: Why, after 20 years of having committee to do so, the PLO has refused to even amend its Charter that continues to call for Israel's demise and the "cleansing" of the ancestral homeland of its Jews? And, why wouldn't the PLO simply accept Israel's RIGHT to be, to exist as the sovereign nation-state of the Jewish people? Perhaps some introspection is due in Washington, DC as well...??!!
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