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Abbas still willing to seek talks extension, but will never recognize 'Jewish state'
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Published: 26.04.14, 16:31
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31. 22,27 not mine.
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (04.26.14)
32. tell him to home and walk away. place sanctions take away pr
ralph   (04.26.14)
Prevlages given. Declare all Jewish lands where arabs live as invader occupied territory.
33. # 4 - by your comment I can see you´ve never been to Israel
Yeoshua F. ,   N.Y   (04.26.14)
If you really ever walked the streets of Tel Aviv or any other city in Israel, as you claim to be from there, you would see : 1) Blond Jews with blue eyes. 2) Slanted eye Jews. 3) Black Jews. 4) Slavic looking Jews. 5) Jews you could be sure were Arabs. You can basically see Jews from everywhere on earth BUT historic Palestine. It is a genetic pool party, everyone´s invited. And you still have the nerve to claim that Palestinians are not from there ?.. The proof is looking you in the face every day.
34. Abbas: "WE will present OUR map . . . .:
mira ,   nyc   (04.26.14)
Abbas says: "On the table WE will present OUR map, for 3 months we'll discuss OUR map. In that period, until the map is agreed upon, all settlement activity must cease completely," This is exactly the problem. Abbas views "negotiation" as getting Israel to accept his terms. The reason negotiations fail time after time is that he is not willing to make a single concession. Compromise requires EACH side to give something up. Israel has shown it is willing to do so. But the Palestinian side is not. until that happens no deal can be reached.
35. Harold # 14
Eaglebeak ,   Left Coast, USA   (04.26.14)
On another thread you accused me of demanding people to shut up. Never in my life have I done that. I gave you a suggestion which went over your head as did my use of the word karma. Karma was a figure of speech. If you think Abbas is fair and right your lower inestine is over your head.
36. We ought to kick out these terror leaders, of all groups,
Ednah ,   Kibbutz Haogen   (04.26.14)
and take over, one by one, Areas C, B, and A. Enough with this idiotic game that some abroad have pushed us into and the outcome of which is clear if we continue with it as we shall loose our only country that we, Jews, have ever had. Enough is enough.
37. Peace
John ,   Sunbury, USA   (04.26.14)
How can you talk with someone who does not recognize you?
38. it is impoosible to recognize terrorist vampire israel
atilla karagözoğlu   (04.26.14)
it is. no need to talk politics. the criminals to the ICC and the rest to america than happy middle east in fact, this is the only way. soon or later it will be. THE GOD WILL DESTROY ISRAEL. TRUST ME. I FEEL.
39. Is Israel willing to recognize Arab star on West Bank?
Harri Mäkinen ,   EU   (04.26.14)
You cant demand Abbas to recognize Jewish state if Netanyahu is not willing to recognize Arab state. How much are you willing to pay for the Abbas recognition of Jewish state? It would change nothing, and you know it. The truth is that the recognition has no real value for you, but it will be sold to you with a huge price if you keep demanding it time after time. Don't be afraid to negotiate. If you negotiate borders, you can fulfill your security demands by making land swaps where needed. Without negotiations the whole UN and even US will eventually recognize Palestine with -67 borders, to save you from binational state where Jews would be soon minority in their own land.
40. #6: Grant for Prez 2016
ASTRONAUT ,   SC, USA   (04.26.14)
Hey Grant, if you're ever in SC, stop by and say Shalom over a tall, cold one. And think about running against Bill-ary in 2016!
41. Pact
Caroline Glick   (04.26.14)
The PA/Hamas pact is going to be a terrible challenge for Washington. How to cook up convincing propaganda to cover rejection of the pact, thus remaining loyal to the US government's AIPAC and Israeli masters. Short of force, Israel will never sign a peace treaty with Palestine. They are determined to own an ethnically cleansed Jewish-only Palestine, containing no more than token Gentiles. They have many hundreds of thousands of illegal violent, armed, orthodox "settlers" in the occupied territories and eviction of those settlers would cause an Israeli civil war. It is far past time for the world to present the Israeli regime with a choice between peace and civilized compliance with international law...........and collapse through economic sanctions.
42. Will Israel recognize Judea and Samaria
Samer   (04.26.14)
So if Israel wants to be recognized as the "Jewish State", does that mean Israel will recognize Palestine (within Judea and Samaria and East Jerusalem) as the Muslim and Christian State? How would that make Jews who choose to continue to settle in Palestine feel?
43. Reality Rules
Zechariah.   (04.26.14)
Abbas realizes the Arabs have a rather Viscious dream .He cannot sell any thing less than what he has stated plus the option of Right of Return and survive alive .Possibly a 1:1 land swap and International Force in the Jordan valley with a Policy of Solid Defense against the Psychos.
44. "pal" authority and Israel
Sjoerd van der Velde ,   Hoorn, Holland   (04.26.14)
The world-population/humankind, on our planet of Earth, also can decide, that a so-called "pal" state is situated in Jordan/Arabian peninsula, period. Israel and the rest of humankind, everywhere, forever and always!
45. It is time to disconnect from the gangsters in Ramallah.
Nurit ,   Haifa, Israel   (04.26.14)
They, each and every one of them, ought to be sent back to Tunis from whence they came to set up the Troyan Horse called Palestinian Authority. Israel is too small of a place to be able to allow for such an animal to exist in a stable that is a source of strife and violence. Enough with this 20 year failed attempt to be reasonable with these people, enough.
46. Abbas has shown his true terror colours
CJK   (04.26.14)
abbas has not changed since his days of organising the massacre of the israeli athletes at the munich olympics. abbas is a terrorist just as was arafat and just as are members of hamas and islamic jihad and the organisations which make up the plo. israel should never again negotiate with this muslim terrorist who refuses to recognise israel as the jewish state. abbas the muslim terrorist pretends that he can demand pre-conditions simply to talk to the sovereign jewish state of israel. israel must reject all pre-conditions by this arrogant nobody, elevated to international prominence by a confused and hostile american president.
47. stop talks: annex area C and settlement blocks
CJK   (04.26.14)
borders should be drawn by israel. israel should draw eastern borders which include all of jerusalem, all settlement blocks and area C. netanyahu must disregard the hostile obama regime and its european partners who are hostages to the muslims and to their own twisted ideologies.
48. 41 fake caroline glick
CJK   (04.26.14)
there is no such thing as "palestine." your brethren only want a "palestine" while denying the sovereign jewish state its very right to jewish sovereignty in the land of israel. the sovereign jewish state of israel is a multiethnic, multireligious democratic state. the israeli residents of what is referred to as the west bank, are neither violent, nor armed, nor necessarily orthodox. the jewish state of israel is strong militarily and economically. the state is very advanced technologically. even if sanctioned by the europeans, israel will thrive. the fact that once again you feel the need to assume someone else's identity is indicative of how totally misguided and dishonest you are.
49. 38
zionist forever   (04.26.14)
You sound like exactly like the various terror groups. Wake me when you think of something more inventive Zzzzzzzzzzzz
50. 2
zionist forever   (04.26.14)
The palestinians strategy is right because they are just trying to wear down Israeli civilians and politicans. They are not the slightest bit interested in 2 states they want it all, a single binational state. Since oslo more and more Israeli red lines have been eroded and the ideological right are now becoming the big problem with saying annex Judea & Samaria and give the arabs citizenship in the foolish belief they can still have a Jewish state. The zionists are coming to Israel not the other way around, Israel is right now being flooded with Euopean Jews from places like France trying to escape anti sematism, this is one of the reasons the current housing bubble. Probably about 30% will leave eventually but the majority will stay because once you start a new life you don't want to go back have to start fresh a second time. Your always going to have the come and go Jews but the majority will stay As for the haredi units thats nothing to do with demographics its about the secular elite who hate the haredi wanting to see them in the army. Doesn't matter if they are needed or not the religion haters like Lapid and seculars who just hate haredi want to see them in the army more as a punishment rather sharing the burden nonsense its an excuse they tell themselves because they know the haredi don't want to be in the army so putting them in is a punishment. There is no simple solution to this problem we just need to stop eroding red lines and stop being to cowardly to stand firm which so far both left and right have been unable to do. Liberman actually has the right idea in changing the border so the Israeli arabs find themselves living in the palestinians state.
51. #1
Harold ,   USA   (04.26.14)
The EU welcomed the unity and your country is one of them. There cannot be peace between Israel and half of the Palestinian population. Netanyahu will then create another precondition i.e.. "I cannot make peace with part of Palestine"
52. #3
Harold ,   USA   (04.26.14)
Abbas will do and agree what his people wants. They want all the lands they own occupied by Israel. Arafat also wanted the same He, Arafat, rejected Clinton's peace plan and said 'THE MAN WHO ACCEPTS YOUR PLAN IS NOT BORN YET"
53. 14
y Allon ,   adelaide/Israel   (04.27.14)
You have been posting your nonsense on this Jewish site for a long time and still have not learned anything.It goes without saying that you are plain stupid.Read Alexander's post and learn.Arabs like you are allowed to learn you know.
54. #52 Know anything about baseball?
A ,   Belgium   (04.27.14)
When someone consistently and repeatedly strikes out without ever getting a hit, they are considered having a 0.00 batting average. Consider yourself a strike out king, as your predictions, "facts", political interpretations and opinions have amounted to nothing more than ZERO.
55. #14 Wrong again, loser
A ,   Belgium   (04.27.14)
Hamas and its various branches is considered a terrorist organization by many influential countries of the world, including the US, EU, Australia, Japan, UK, Jordan and Egypt. Go home and play with your dolls.
56. #12 "Racist white trash 1. Caucasian residents
A ,   Belgium   (04.27.14)
of the United States, Silver Bay, Minn. for example, generally demonstrating a far below average intelligence level, harboring deep feelings of inferiority and worthlessness which they attempt to disguise behind vile statements regarding Jews and others, who they realize are actually far better than themselves but are too ashamed to admit it." MY dictionary, Benazi.
57. To nr 33 - Hi "Yeoshua" or should I call you Muhammed?
Alexander ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (04.28.14)
I've never been to Israel? I've been to Israel about 15-20 times, I've made aliyah a few years ago, and so far I have lived in Israel for a few years and I see and meet Jews/Israelis on a daily basis. If anyone should know what Jews truly look like, it should be me. I've walked the streets of Tel Aviv, Jerusalem and most other cities in Israel from Golan in the North to Eilat in the south. I can assure you that I haven't seen anything that even remotely connects to your wild fantasies. Your statements simply don't relate to facts and reality. Sorry to break your bubble. "1) Blond Jews with blue eyes." Blonde or red hair can exist naturally among a minority among Mid Eastern and Mediterranean peoples - Jews included. Mid Eastern or Mediterranean blondes don't look like European or Nordic blondes. The blondes among Jews and other Mediterranean and Mid Eastern peoples have other features. There are many Kurds in Turkey, Syria and Iraq that fit your description. About 15-20% of the population in Greece, Italy, Spain and Portugal is blonde. It's even less among Israel's Jewish population. "2) Slanted eye Jews." Jews of Asian stock are no Jews at all since we're no Asians. We are White Caucasians of Mid Eastern and Mediterranean origins. I've NEVER seen a single slanted Eye "Jew" in Israel. "3) Black Jews." Africans who converted to our religion are not ethnically Jewish and constitute about 1% of Israel's Jewish population, or those who are being referred to as Jews. Try another one. "4) Slavic looking Jews." I've never seen a single "Slavic looking Jew" in my entire Life neither in Israel nor abroad simply because they don't exist. If they are "Slavic" they can't be Jewish, since Jewish is a Mid Eastern/Mediterranean ethnicity. "5) Jews you could be sure were Arabs." What do Arabs look like? I'm asking since they consist of at least 12-20 different ethnic groups from the Middle East, Africa, Asia and Europe, who happen to have two things in common: 1) they speak Arabic 2) they are Moslems. "Palestinians" are as mixed as the other Arabs. Millions of Arabs across Israel, Lebanon and Syria are as White as most Jews of Israel and as White as most South Europeans. And millions of Arabs in Arabia, Egypt, Iraq and North Africa have darker skin - so, what exactly do "Arabs" look like? "Historic Palestine" has never existed . You mean HISTORIC ISRAEL? Jews living in exile all over the World for centuries, doesn't change the fact that they have 1) preserved their Mid Eastern ethnicity and 2) blend in in the Middle East. Geography has nothing to do with ethnicity. The proof of illegal immigrants and foreign looking Arab speaking Moslems who belong at least to one dozen ethnic groups are greedingly looking us Jews in the face everyday, trying to steal our ancient homeland in which we Jews have lived for the past 4000 years. Nice try "Yeoshua" or should I call you Muhammed?
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