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'Israel ranked 3rd most aggressive intelligence service against US'
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Published: 17.05.14, 20:37
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1. if israel doesn't hurt america its justified
zionist forever   (05.17.14)
Israel spies on the US over its position on Middle East issues. Edward Snowden should remember Israel is in the Middle East and non of its neighbours recognise its right to exist and its neighbours like Canada & Mexico have no desire to see America destroyed just do commerce. Spying on America is illegal and maybe even immoral but as long as the spying is limited to issues that concern Israel and the information it gains is not used to hurt America then it can be justified.
2. A "new NSA document"
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (05.17.14)
Stands to reason. Israel has been thoroughly humiliating the NSA and its supposedly primo information-gathering prowess for quite a while now. I guess the icing on the cake was Israel's destruction of the top-secret Iranian nuclear reactor at Qazvin last week. The NSA did not know about the facility. Either that, or Susan Rice believed wholeheartedly Iran's strenuous denial that such a facility exists. Well, It did. Not any more, of course. And the NSA never even detected the IAF squadron responsible for the destruction, and the State of Israel did not inform the United States. Can't really fault their rage and humiliation, but their ineptitude is remarkably funny. What a shame that the United States, allegedly an ally, double deals against Israel's interests. Allies aren't supposed to do that. That's why Israel really needs to keep an eye on the United States -- especially given the mindset of the current administration. That said, it is worth keeping in mind that the United States has more spies than any other country. They're just not any good at it, whereas Israel is. Jealous of Israel's capability, and the fact that Israel no longer shares very much intelligence with the United States. For good reason. The current administration is not to be trusted, and American espionage is severely compromised by the existence of moles. The CIA leaks like a sieve. Incompetent fools. Israel doesn't have to tell them anything.
3. the most catstrophic spying on US under Obama
CJK   (05.17.14)
the most catstrophic spying on the us has occurred under obama. bradley manning and edward snowden separately and together have stolen more us national security secrets than any spies in us history. the fact that such thefts could take place is indicative of the obama administration's abysmal incompetence. the fact that snowden was ever hired by the cia and the nsa is totally incomprehensible and is indicative of a high level of incompetence in these agencies under the obama administration. it is most likely that russia did a much better job understanding snowden's psychology, his profound narcissism and immaturity. compared to that, the accusations against israel, of having conversations with people at international venues, or with arab americans, which are neither prohibited nor secret, is risible. these accusations are just further attempts by obama to weaken the alliance between israel and the united states.
4. haha NSA the worst spy agency in the world dares to complain
David   (05.17.14)
5. Israel needs Snowden leaks to learn...
Gideon Reader   (05.18.14)
...the position of the USA vis a vis Israel? Gimme a break. Calling Captain Obvious! Please pick up the Pink courtsey phone. Seems to me a quick glance at the blundering herd sent by the Obama mal administration is a pretty clear picture of US viewpoints. Too dumb to suceed.
6. Hollywood producer, spy, Arnon Milchan, never arrested, why?
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (05.18.14)
He was a "triple agent". "A triple agent pretends to be a double agent for one side, while he or she is truly a double agent for the other side. Famous triple agents include Eddie Chapman, Kim Philby and Alexander Litvinenko." -Wikipedia, Double Agent
7. #2 Fairy Tales
Darren Ben John ,   Townsville Australia   (05.18.14)
I guess with your furtile (infantile) imagination, that you are going to tells us that the reason you live in both the US and Israel is that you are really an Israeli spy. As for the IAF going into Iran undetected to blow up a non-existing nuclear facillity, well you really are in another world aren't you?
8. 2 - this type stuff belongs in either os
they coming to take ,   me away ha ha   (05.18.14)
2 places 1 - sci fei forum 2- nut house. i dont think you are sci fri type are you?
9. What if Ed Snowden denies?
manicdrummer ,   Haifa, Israel   (05.18.14)
I've always been sympathetic to Ed Snowden. Greenwald may be lying about the documents, like he's lied about so many other things. Let's wait and see what develops.
10. Silicon Valley
FRED ,   USA   (05.18.14)
Common Knowledge here in Silicon Valley steals high tech secrets. Remember it took sometimes billions of dollars and many years to develop some ops in high tech and the Israelis take the short route to getting them by stealing it from the many tech companies in the valley.
11. Israel spying on the US
Harold ,   USA   (05.18.14)
It means that there are few Pollards inside the United States doing more damage than the one who is in the big house.
12. #2 Sarah B
Harold ,   USA   (05.18.14)
You are always against the United States and using USA as part of your name. Is it because you are getting welfare checks from the US treasury. Shame on you.
13. Spy vs spy
Raphael ,   Netanya   (05.18.14)
Obama administration's concern is that israeli intelligence could expose the deep infiltration of Muslim Brothers and other arab moles into the inner circle of the White House
14. To #11 & #12:
Israeli 2   (05.18.14)
What Sarah B wrote in #2: I also had no idea that Israel had done that. But if she wrote it, it must be true and I tend to believe it....only because Israel is capable of such things. At least Putin admits and knows that Israel is capable of all this. Learn from Sarah B., Harold. She is very smart, successful and pro Israel. She is American too.
15. To: No. 12
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (05.18.14)
No, it's because I was born in the United States. I am a dual citizen, of the United States and of Israel. Welfare checks? Honey, I pay more in taxes to the United States government in one quarter than you will earn in a lifetime. I also pay taxes to New York State and New York City. And Israel. So shut up, and stop leeching off my hard-earned tax dollars. Shame on you, you parasite.
16. To: No. 7
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (05.18.14)
It's spelled "fertile." I think you were projecting your own psyche, and simply misspelled "furtive." But no matter. You should do a little research. There have been a great many unexplained explosions at Iranian military and nuclear facilities, starting in 2010. Qazvin is just the most recent example, but it is by far and away the most significant, precisely because it had to have been carried out by aerial bombardment. I'm not anyone's spy. I don't need the headache. You're just upset and annoyed because Israel has bested Iran on quite a number of occasions, in highly embarrassing ways. Too bad for you. What, did you expect the State of Israel to check with you first? Climb back aboard the barstool, loser. Oh -- by the way -- Qazvin is still burning. Helluva "work accident," eh?
17. #16 Just keep taking your tablets.
Darren Ben John ,   Townsville Australia   (05.18.14)
You do not know if you are a yank or a jew.
18. #16 Sarah BS
Darren Ben John ,   Townsville Australia   (05.18.14)
Oh, and you forgot. It is impossible for me to fall off my barstool. Look it up while you are in the jew woman's bath.....
19. To: No. 11
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (05.18.14)
Do you have a clue as to how many American spies have been despatched to Israel? Of course, their work is hampered by the fact that Israel spots them right away. Please don't hate Israel just because it is so very good at intelligence gathering. You should still be VERY busy expressing your gratitude to us for telling you about Abbottabad.
20. To: No. 8
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (05.18.14)
Let's look at the facts, shall we? October 2010 - Khoramabad; two mysterious explosions which destroyed two huge munitions storage facilities November 2011 - A mysterious and massive explosion which destroyed a vast arms depot and storage center for Iran's Shahab long-range ballistic missiles. Fordow, January 2013 - Still another massive explosion which destroyed Iran's underground uranium enrichment center. Western Teheran, May 2013 -- Massive explosion destroys three missile research and storage facilities Qazvin, May 2014 -- Three massive explosions, one which destroyed a top-secret nuclear facility whose existence Iran has always denied; a second one which destroyed a crude oil storage facility and a third which completely destroyed Iran's most sophisticated electrical grid and neighboring radar facility. Not science fiction. Just fact. You really don't have a clue about the depth and extent of Israel's reach, do you?
21. To: No. 8 - SECOND ATTEMPT
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (05.18.14)
Let's look at the facts, shall we? October 2010 - Khoramabad; the mysterious explosions which destroyed two huge munitions storage facilities November 2011 - A mysterious and massive explosion which destroyed a vast arms depot and storage center for Iran's Shahab long-range ballistic missiles. Fordow, January 2013 - Still another massive explosion which destroyed Iran's underground uranium enrichment center. Western Teheran, May 2013 -- Massive explosion destroys three missile research and storage facilities Qazvin, May 2014 -- Three massive explosions, one which destroyed a top-secret nuclear facility whose existence Iran has always denied; a second one which destroyed a crude oil storage facility and a third which completely destroyed Iran's most sophisticated electrical grid and neighboring radar facility. You might think it is science fiction or the product of a diseased mind, but that's okay -- you're probably just projecting your own shortcomings. Hard to deny facts, though. It was the explosion at Qazvin which finally caused Susan Rice to make a last minute trip to Israel. The NSA is hopping mad, and with some justification. And I haven't even touched upon Israel's successful malware raids on Iran's sensitive computer networks, or the interdiction by Israel of multiple Iranian arms shipments destined for terrorist organizations arrayed against Israel, or the mysterious demise of a dozen or so nuclear scientists -- some Iranian; some not; but all working for Iran. You're just jealous. As well you should be. No other country in the world could have pulled off what Israel has achieved. And don't you forget it. You really don't want us on your bad side.
22. to #3
Ezra ,   SanDiegoUSA   (05.18.14)
The statements made in #3 are profound. IMHO The article sounds logical. Israeli's and Jews living in the US, should respect the governments they live under. I don't condone spying for Israel, or spying on the US. It makes more trouble in the world. I prefer longer periods of peace between wars.
23. Raphael at No.13
Eaglebeak ,   Left Coast, USA   (05.18.14)
I don't think Obama has anything to worry about. There is video of him giving a speach right after he was elected to the senate telling an audience he was a Muslim born in Kenya. The press is so controlled they won't report it. The Repbulicans are in bed with the Democrats and won't mention it. The proof is already there but the public won't listen. When it comes to Obama much of the world is deaf, dumb, and blind. Those that are not are ignored or ridiculed.
24. #15 Sarah B
Harold ,   USA   (05.18.14)
We say those who talk and write against their country of birth is a bastard.
25. U.S. Intel, spies? Had been. Agent provocateurs that's the right word.
(05.18.14)
26. Obama disinfo campaign of CIA leaks!
bernard ross   (05.18.14)
incredibly transparent and childishly done. trying to get crdibility through snowden when he just quotes a CIA leak which are usually the mark of CIA disinfo. Obama, and anti semitic fraud soros stooge using all the gov services as his personal weapons.
27. To: No. 24
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (05.18.14)
Sorry, sluggo, "my country right or wrong" is no longer the mantra. In a democracy, one enjoys both a free forum for ideas and the right to express one's thoughts. I have given far more to the country of my birth than you ever will. You are a nothing and a nobody. Shut up, fool.
28. To: No. 18
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (05.18.14)
Oh, I forgot. They batten your ass to the barstool with Krazy Glue. Charming. By the way, it isn't "Jew woman;" it's Jewess. How dumb are you, anyway?
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