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Report: US fears Israel would be dragged into war with ISIS
Roi Kais
Published: 28.06.14, 13:24
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1.  US Concerns?
ky   (06.28.14)
Why? . It is about time that the world faced up to the fact that these Islamic fanatics have to taste the full meaning of defeat. In the same way as Nazi Germany had to. We need to face up to it and stand up for the same values that previous generations gave their lives for. There is no easy way out. No cheap or clever solutions or Obama sound bite is going to stop them . If we let them continue they will ruin the world.
2. Time for repenting
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (06.28.14)
Our deviations from the holy Writings made us weak. It is time to repudiate our sinful habits and come back to our forefathers' roots. What woud our matriarch Sarah - G.d blesses her memory- have done in our place?? Being faithful to our Almight Creato-may his name be always venerated. So, let's repent Israelis. Fast and pray before Kotel. Only in this way, we could overcome our enemies.
3. Israel SHOULD help the Hashemite Kingdom of "palestine"
A ,   Belgium   (06.28.14)
under the condition that Abdullah accepts all of his repatriated Jordanian citizens illegally squatting in Judea and Samaria, and encourages them, financially (the US will pay, just like they pay the terrorist PA organization) or otherwise to return to their homeland. Otherwise, no deal.
4. So, America can't defend Jordan but, Jordan asked Israel
BUILD BABY BUILD!!!!   (06.28.14)
to help her out? Hmm, looks like Israel is asked to save the world again.. Twice Israel, alone took out two Muslim nation nuclear facilities.. Not America, and not a thank you. Ironic, that Jordan, who one held parts of Jerusalem now begs for her own shaky survival from Israel leaving obama to again, go to the corner and sit under the dunces cap and suck his thumb while whistling Dixie. My, how the mighty have fallen. Any more Al Green songs?
5. As a father of two who live in Israel...my feeling
Al   (06.28.14)
towards the enemies surrounding Israel is that they do themselves in. I really couldn't give a rats ass as to their wellbeing and under which and whose ideology they adhere to. To my mind they one of the same and are, and will be Israel's mortal enemy till the end of time. We Jews love to analyze everything and anything. We like to believe that just because we are decent then anyone else can be so as well. Nothing is further from the truth. The enemies surrounding Israel are stuck in the 12th century and will be there forever. No point in trying to change their thinking and their ways. The best we can hope for is they they do unto themselves what they have been trying to do to us from day one. And with that I bid you all a good Shabbos..Its off to shul and kiddish for me.
6. projection?
tom ,   toronto, canada   (06.28.14)
both the united states and israel have signed treaties to protect jordan. so the real question isn't whether israel will get sucked into a war against isis (10,000 lightly armed jihadis against a modern, mechanized army with air support?), but rather, why is the us so unwilling to use military force against islamists? when they aren't actively supporting them, like in libya, egypt and syria, the americans run "diplomatic interference" for others, such as pakistan and iran. in iraq, why is the elephant so afraid of the mouse?
7. To All Commentators
Harold ,   USA   (06.28.14)
The division between the Shias and the Sunnis was created by none other than George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and the Neo-Cons. Before the invasion of Iraq the Shias and the Sunnis used to work with each other, marry each other and rule Iraq and Syria together. That was the neo-cons plan long before the invasion of Iraq and pushed George W. Bush to do their dirty work. President Clinton , few days ago said "THIS MESS IS CREATED BY INVADING IRAQ".
8. obama is afraid Israel will kick ass
BUILD BABY BUILD!!!!   (06.28.14)
and make his no balls policy more ludicrous and more apparent. Only Israel took out two prior Arab nuclear facilities in Iraq and Syria. Again, Israel is asked to save the world while obama's scandals are lining up for more investigations. Remember freshly sworn in obama, then Clinton and then, Kerry "We demand that Israel end all settlement activities." I do, hope your building yer balls off!!! BUILDING IS HEBREW FOR 'UP YOURS/ MUSLIM obama.....
9. Obama fears that Israel will destroy his Caliphate dream
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (06.28.14)
10. One is pleased with the fact that we, Israelis, can help...
N.L.Katz ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (06.28.14)
...Jordan to repel the ISIS forces should they attempt to take over the the country. And, at the same time, one is also reminded of the definitive observation of the late Mr. Yitzhaq Rabin that, in Israel's best national and security interests and within the context of international law, the Jordan Valley, in the widest meaning of the term, must remain under total Israeli rule. It is precisely such cased as the rise of Islamism in the east and/or the rise of Iran that caused Mr. Rabin to insist about the Jordan Valley, under any peace agreement that may be reached with the Arabs.
11. Prelude to thermonuclear war
Zechariah   (06.28.14)
This I'ds the Prelude to thermonuclear was so Israel needs severe worst case contingency plans WMD shelters Submarines and Fleets of Aircraft and the Arabs from the Sea to the River better have contingency plans too.
12. Send "Palestinians" to Jordan to justify helping Jordan.
Chaim ,   Israel   (06.28.14)
Most Jordanians are "Palestinians". So if Israel militarily helps Jordan, Israeli lives would be risked again to help "Palestinians". The only possible justification for this is to send Israeli "Palestinians" to Jordan. That would solve many of Israel's problems permanently. Our precious soldiers would not risk their lives in vain.
13. #6 - The reason Americnas will not fight is simple
spyguy ,   seattle usa   (06.28.14)
Americans are tired of wasting their blood and treasure in the Middle East. For over a decade the US has spent trillions fighting and rebuilding places outside the US while the people of the US saw their own infrastructure crumble and fortunes dwindle. Americans simply do NOT care if the people of the ME kill each other and no longer believe all the lies about a "global war on terror." Note that the US Constitution REQUIRES Congress to declare and fund wars and there is zero chance that would pass the US congress. Have a nice future without the US.
14. This is a joke
Jake ,   Haifa   (06.28.14)
The armed forces of Jordan are disciplined, have heavy armor and air power, and would make very short work of the ISIS. This is either a ploy by Jordan to get more money or some kind of disinformation. The ISIS driving in their Toyota pick ups, are not a modern army and in the open, flat, areas of Eastern Jordan, would not survive an air and helicopter assault. So far all the ISIS has had to fight are militias. Syria leaves them be for the time being. They could not touch the more serious Kurds,and have not even ventured into Shia territory. Against Jordan, they would be slaughtered.
15. #7 Typical moronic statement by the expert himself
A ,   Belgium   (06.28.14)
"There was a dispute in the community of Muslims in present-day Saudi Arabia over the question of succession," says Augustus Norton, author of Hezbollah: A Short History. "That is to say, who is the rightful successor to the prophet?" Whose bunghole did you pull that George W. Bush fantasy out of, your own?
16. So Israel is expected to save Obama's ungrateful butt again
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (06.28.14)
17. Scriptures says all the Princes of Ammon will die in the
Rivkah   (06.28.14)
latter days of Gentile world rule, but the Anti-Christ will not be able to take over Jordan. King Abdullah should always keep one or more Jordanian Princes in exile to survive the coming slaughter, to be available to establish the throne in exile if necessary. Perhaps Prince Hamsa could go to his mother Queen Noor's residence in the Washington, D.C. area and stay for awhile and then trade places with another Jordanian Prince. If Jordan's Royal family turn toward Elohim and embrace Him and His Son Yahoshua as their saviours, perhaps Elohim will not allow the slaughter of the House of the Hashemite Princes and King.
18. #13 America has always been fighting
ky   (06.28.14)
to keep out of anything that it does not profit from. It eventually learnt that it profited from entering the fight and maintaining a more or less free world
19. ISIS threat is overblown. their "strength" is the weakness..
Rafi ,   US   (06.28.14)
... of al-Maliki in Iraq, useless Saudia, etc. Jordanian Army is more than capable of handling ISIS. Real threat, as always, to the Hashemites is internal.
20. Yes, a horrific war is expected between July 27 and Sept 3,
Rivkah   (06.28.14)
2014 because that is the time of three crescent moons when the Moon, Sun and Jupiter are in the constellation of Cancer, prophesied about in Nostradamus' drawing that can be seen on You Tube at "cloudkicker 1000". It is also prophesied in the Mayan calendar and India's Sanskrit Simad Bhagovatom (12.2.22.24). This prophecy is also in the Holy Scriptures in Revelation that speaks of the release of demons from the abyss of hell. You can imagine the destructions of demons released from hell for a short time. The drawing of Nostradamus and the other prophetic writings about this war say the gates of hell open on July 27 and close on Sept. 3, 2014. The gates of hell opening and closing of those gates during the three crescent moon signs in the heavens, also heralds the Golden Age of the Seventh Millenium during which the Jewish Messiah will come back and set up His thousand year kingdom on earth after defeating the goat nations of the earth who opposed Israel. Seven sheep nations are spoken of in Micah chapter 5 that enter the Millenial Kingdom with Yahoshua ha Mashiach. Armageddon will occur during the beginning of the seventh millennium since the creation of Adam.
21. Psychopath Hussein concerned he may do war
Jhan   (06.28.14)
He understands sometimes (especially after the effects of the cocaine wear off) that he is out of control, and is concerned about what his brown brain may do..
22. to #20 Rivkah GO TO THE ASYLUM end
guillermo ,   kfar saba israel   (06.28.14)
23. I am worried about Sarah B. Are you sick my dear ???????
Dan   (06.28.14)
24. #14 Agreed
Sarah B ,   Tel Aviv/London   (06.28.14)
The only help the Jordanians would ask for would be spare parts and fuel and probably ammunition as well. There is no way the Hashemite kingdom would survive if Israeli tanks are seen sweeping through Jordan to face ISIL which is why it won't happen A lot of talkbackers believe that Israel is a normal country which can act normally, it cannot because of the settlement enterprise and the occupation. 5 million Israelis held hostage by 500,000 settlers living life on the lamb at their expense
25. #17 Yeah
Sarah B ,   Tel Aviv/London   (06.28.14)
I prefer to take the word of a Rabbi at the door of the gas chamber at Birkenau he screamed there is no God
26. WRONG America NO WAY will Israel interfere take sides RIGHT
M.S. ,   mpls america   (06.29.14)
Israel loves Arabs who kill fight against other Arabs no way will Israel go to war with the Levant the ISIS ISIL Jihadists so on and so any Arab who fights other Arabs is a friend of Israel no not a potential enemy is that logicial enough for u Sarah B and so but I still think Israel needs another Arab Israel war perhaps with Syria weaken Assad is possibly a good strategy for Israel at this time RIGHT ??? Thank You... M.S.
27. correction and 25, Sarah: It is seven sheep nations AND
Rivkah   (06.29.14)
Israel enter the Millenial Kingdom. Sarah B.: Obviously, the Rabbi who screamed there is no God did not read the Proverbs of King Solomon. Proverbs 30:4,5 says "Elohim has a Name and Elohim has a Son who has a Name." Scriptures promises that if the Names of Elohim are called upon, deliverance will come. He did not call on the NAMES of Elohim. He may have called on titles but not the names. The NAMES are Yahovah (Father) and Yahoshua (Son). If the Rabbi knew Elohim instead of Lucifer that a lot of Jewish Rabbis worship in Kabbalah and the Talmud, he would have been delivered. The six point star is a symbol of fornication and is not the Star of David. Satan is the god of fornication. King David's star is seen on the mosaic floor of the Ein Gedi Synagogue in Israel. It is an EIGHT POINT STAR with two SQUARES not two triangles. Worshipping Satan will not get Elohim to deliver a person. Jews should give up Kabbalah and the Talmud and study only the Torah and Tanakh for enlightenment so that they turn from unknowingly worshipping Satan. It is Elohim who can deliver as He has supernaturally delivered Israel many times or don't you know the miracles of Israel's wars that were impossible to win but Israel did win with the deliverance of Elohim. The Kundalini serpent worshipped in Kabbalah is SATAN not Elohim!
28. 22 Guillermo, Israel: Your ignorance is bliss, I see. You
(06.29.14)
are like an ostrich who buries its head in the sand and thinks that is the place of safety.
29. Harold 7
alsky ,   toronto   (06.29.14)
Hussein kept them in line by threats and intimidation. Arabs are happiest when beaten into submission
30. 6 Tom
alsky ,   Toronto   (06.29.14)
because Arabs are cowards
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