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Brits ban Israeli universities
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Published: 24.04.05, 09:41
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1. A new pet cause for the British Academia
Gideon Ninetwenty ,   Raanana, Israel   (04.23.05)
Being British is about having two faces, double standards and a total incapacity to view oneself in the standards you hold others to. The spineless incapacitated clenched sphincter British Academy, should first and foremost be kicked out of Israel along with all of it's appalling degree selling Universities such as Derbi, Manchester etc.. The American equivalent are far superior in content and ideas, and also more appreciated and recognized in Israel and abroad. The British academy has nothing it can offer to Israelis; they're demure, unimaginative and lacking in fresh ideas – In short they're on an intellectual, ideological and technological sabbatical. They have far more to loose from this boycott than the Israeli academia, who will continue to share advanced technology and medical research with others more deserving. This is really about having a pet cause for the British academia's anoraks and bores to discuss in a drizzling afternoon at the Pub – a bunch of insignificant pishers.
2. Blatant Anti-Semitism
(04.23.05)
This is one of the most hypocritical and anti-semitic things I've seen in a while. Why aren't they boycotting Iranian, Saudi Arabian, Egyptian, Syrian, Chinese, and etc. Universities. All those countries are guilty in one manner or another of the actions they accuse Israel of. Also why aren't they boycotting their own nation. Britain continues to occupy Gibraltar, Indian Ocean territory, the Falklands, South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands, the British Virgin Islands. Also not forgetting Northern Ireland. Britian participated in the War in Iraq. An action, that all these boycott groups view as "colonial", and regard as an occupation. However the true irony in all this is that in boycotting Haifa university, they are hurting palestinians aswell. Haifa University has one of the largest Arab Student and Faculty in Israel. It is considered one of the places where Jews and Arabs are making headway in cooperation and understanding. Obviously I see the AUT wishes to stop this kind of action. For we know that they do not want Jews in any equation. The issue over Haifa university censoring acedemics, is quite honestly not telling the whole story. The issue revolves around a viruently anti-Israel (and self hating Jew) Ilan Pappe. He has consistently participated in events that demonize Israel. His hatred and bias no know bounds. The fact that he was one of the people who called for the boycott (of his own employer for that matter), shows he is not fit for employment, and that he should terminated.
3. The university is full of Arabs...what's their problem now?
Tal ,   israel   (04.23.05)
4. Britain a leader in promoting bias against Jews and Israel
Daniel Zylbersztajn ,   London   (04.23.05)
There is no problem in highlighting issues in Israel, the problem is that they do so selectively. It's the selectivity that here is the problem not the high-lightening of issues. Of course not all UK academics share these views. Neither do all Brits. But those in the UK's "radical" left (the London major Livingstone is another case) know how to push their points of view in a general climate of disilusionment with the Iraq War to score some political nuggets. Everything is Israel's fault, because Israel and in teh past Jews were the easy and traditional scapegoat. If everything is Israel's fault, than on meetings like that of the AUT the Jewish State and / or any institutions and people within become the first amongst all countries. peoples to be boycotted. It seems odd that the AUT does not equally propse a boycaott of all research institutions involved in contributing the British war machinery. altough much nerar to home and much more implicating. This was another dangerous contribution to politics on the basis of deliberate bias, which can not solve conflicts, but aggitate the. Personally as a Jew with stong Israeli connections it alienates me to live in Britain today amongst such people. Every incidence drives me away from fighting as once for a just Israel, to just fight for Israel, and may eventually lead to leaving Europe for Israel.
5. Best response: attract bright Jewish grads to Israeli unis!
Dov ,   Montreal, Canada   (04.23.05)
This is par for the British academic course: last month the students' union, this month the professors. Yet it's also a great opportunity for Israeli unis. Imagine if, 5 years after this nonsense, bright young British Jews were opting for Hebrew U, Haifa U, and Bar Ilan over Oxford or Cambridge! It's time for the Overseas Students depts at those unis to add the missing pieces. Attract students, by translating program information into English. Enrol students, by creating an "ulpan+admission" program: Hebrew language training, with the security of a guaranteed program spot once the training completed. It's time.
6. A photo is worth a 1000 words
Yal   (04.23.05)
http://www.pbase.com/yalop/image/42436890
7. Calling All Israeli Scientists & Engineers
Adina Kutnicki ,   NJ, US   (04.23.05)
The only rational response to the British Academy's boycott is through Israeli brainpower and ingenuity.(something the Brits are sorely lacking in and very envious of!) Here's the challenge to my Israeli brothers and sisters -please develop the mother of all technologies that would block all of them, (and other assorted antisemites ) from using ALL Israeli invented technologies. That would include so many items that these antisemites(that is what they are whether they admit it or not!) would be relatively brought back to the stone age. From the cell phone to the computer, these "enlightened" guys and gals would then be stuck up the proverbial tree. Calling all Israeli scientists and engineers - please accept this challenge.
8. HATE FOR JEWS CREATED THE ROAD MAP TO HELL
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (04.23.05)
There NEVER was an Arab country of Palestine. Jerusalem was NEVER the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Jerusalem is mentioned over 800 times in the Bible, not once in the Koran. Arab Muslims FIRST took the name "Palestinians" in 1967. Arafat was the FIRST leader of this NEW PEOPLE. Before 1948, Jews were known as the Palestinians! After Jews miraculously transformed desert and swamp into rich agricultural land, large numbers of Arabs came from Arab countries into Palestine for jobs from the Jews. The fact that the overwhelming number of Arabs resided only briefly in Palestine is attested to by the special UN decree: that any Arab who had resided in Palestine for only two years before 1948 and then left, would be considered a refguee and so would his descendants!!! In 1922, 80% of Palestine was given to Arab Muslims, giving them their Arab Palestinian state, it became Jordan. It was ethnically cleansed of Jews. This area of Palestine is part of ancient Biblical Israel and was recognized along with present-day Israel, Judea, Samaria and Gaza as the Jewish homeland by the League of Nations. In 1948, Egypt invaded Gaza and ethnically cleansed ALL Jews. In 1948, Jordan invaded Judea, Samaria and east Jerusalem and ethnically cleansed ALL Jews. Jordan, opposing Israel's G-d, destroyed 58 synagogues in Jerusalem. When Israel won Islam's war of aggression against her in 1967, Jews returned to the areas of their homeland they had been ethnically cleansed from. Muslims and Jew-haters deceptively describe the Jews return to their land as "occupation". Under international law, territories are considered "occupied" only when they are taken in an act of aggression which does not apply to Israel. Judea, Samaria and Gaza are not 'occupied territories' according to international law because they were not taken from any foreign sovereign. Sudan's jihad has left 2.5 million Christians dead. Hundreds of thousands of Christians have been taken for slaves by Sudan's Muslims. Does the world demand the Christian slaves are set free? No. The hypocrites choose to direct their anger at Jews living on the TINY sliver of land that is Israel.
9. Israeli people should see where Sharon is taking them
Sal Azam ,   Chicago, USA   (04.23.05)
Here is a list of things happening and in progress in the world in reaction to what Israel is doing in the Palestinian territories for the sake of land. It's time to open your eyes and get rid of Ariel Sharon and his government. And if you did not he will destroy you like the Pharoahs forces were destroyed in the Nile along with him. Sharon is like the David Koresh and family in Waco Texas who got everybody killed while defying the law and making his own people hostages and sacrificed them for nothing but devilish idea. Here Ariel Sharon is defying, violating for the sake of its brutal occupation of the Palestinian land. You read you decide with an open mind and heart what are the consequences of actions taken by Israel. Here is a list of a few consequences which resulted in the violations, defiance of Ariel sharons government to the world and to the agreements that they made with the world. President did what ever it could do to support Israel but it is Sharon which is defying, decieting him. List follows. 1. Re-election of Bush.78-80% of Jewish voters voted against him. 2.FBI's AIPAC investigation. AIPAC is dysfunctional. 3. 81 billion dollar budget passed with a 99-0 support. Palestinians got 200 million. Israel request for 1.6 billion aid was rejected. Pro Israel congressman and women totally dysfunctional and barely surviving. 4.Sandy Burger indicted. 5. Governor of Connecticut in jail. 6.35 traders of NYSE indicted. 7.Israel dropped from the F-35 plane project. 8.Not Pardoning Jonathan Pollard. 9.Ebber the CEO of World com indicted for 85 years. 10.Texan oil CEO indicted for 62 years. 11. John Negroponte(our hero) appointed to look over 15 intelligence agencies to clean corrupt culture. 12.Russia selling Strella Anti Aircraft missiles to Syria. Israeli Air Force must be very pleased. 13.Iraq war which was fought for oil and Israel failed and is the most corrupt and dangerous country of the world. 14.WMD report was all a sham and Israel was the main source of information on the Iraqi threat. 15. , Rumsfeld,Tom Delay, Susan Collins, Jane Harman,Cheney, Feith... all lost their effectiveness and are barely surviving. 16. NATO, Russia and the U.S signed a military accord bolstering military, political and financial alliance to counter the Israeli-Chinese axis. 17.50000 Russian intellectuals warniing and condemning Jewish organizations for inciting hatred. 18.This includes 5000 Orthodox Christians. 19. The world Church Coucil, Presbyterian Chruches about 1.4 billion Christians and their organizations putting and mulling sanctions against Israel. This short list of consequences that are a result of Israeli governments defiance, lies and deceit should be published to show the world and especially the Jewish population who think like rational people to what Ariel Sharon and his government is doing to the Jews and to the Non Jews and what precarious situation he has put his own people. You decide!
10. Brits showing true colours...
Uri Stein ,   Ramat Aviv, Israel   (04.23.05)
I grew up in England, the UK is inherently anti-Semitic: " The site of Clifford's Tower, the keep of York's medieval castle, still bears witness to the most horrifying event in the history of English Jewry. On the night of 16 March 1190, the feast of Shabbat ha-Gadol, the small Jewish community of York was gathered together for protection inside the tower. Rather than perish at the hands of the violent mob that awaited them outside, many of the Jews took their own lives; others died in the flames they had lit, and those who finally surrendered were massacred and murdered. This appalling event has become the most notorious example of antisemitism in medieval England. Yet, it was by no means an isolated incident, but rather the culmination of a tide of violent feeling which swept the country in the early part of 1190. " In many constituencies in England, the Neo-Nazi BNP, who rant about 'the Zionists', get up to 15% of the vote. The UK's unlimited migration policy (one of the reasons why I left) has resulted in a Muslim community of nearly 2 million, most of whom refuse to assimilate. The Islamic community of Britain boycotts Holocaust memorial day. Not to mention the foaming-from-the-mouth anti-Semite 'Red' Ken Livingstone - who calls Israelis and Jews Nazis. Anti-Semitic acts in the UK have risen 50% in the past year. Now they are boycotting Jewish Universities. It seems as though the Europeans have forgotten the most evil crime ever, which they committed, just 60 years ago...
11. Sal is lying like always.
Daisy ,   USA   (04.23.05)
Sal you are one deranged Arab Muslim. Sharon can't even be compared to Arab Islamofacists like yourself. Most real Christians and non-Christians alike, like myself, support Israel and the Jews. The Arabs are on the wrong side of God and every good person in the world knows it!
12. Arabs are the most racists, sexists, violent people around!
Daisy ,   USA   (04.23.05)
Arabs Muslims murder anyone who isn't like them. As a female American Catholic person of color I would rather live under Jewish rule than Arab rule anyday!
13. I presented verified facts. Only sick zionists will disagree
Sal Azam ,   Chicago USA   (04.24.05)
What I presented was to show the Jews what is happening with Israel because of the actions of deranged fanatic follower of meir Kahane, that is Ariel Sharon and his gang. The facts are infront of the wise and simple and those suffering from racism, supremism, zionism, might is right should realize that the Jewish power that once Sharon boasted about has come to an end in United States and other counries and reality is on life support. With the exception of Israel. Sharon and his government are a curse upon all the Jews. One good example of Jews doing justice to put things straight in Israel is the boycott of the Bar Illan University and Haifa University and here is a piece of report. The academics labeled Israel as a "colonial apartheid state, more insidious than South Africa," called for the "removal of this regime," and depicted Israeli universities as "repressing" academic freedom. In her allegations against the Israeli institutions, Ms. Blackwell relied heavily on a letter by Ilan Pappe, lecturer in political science at Haifa University. A message from Dr. Pappe was distributed to every executive member at the conference, in which Pappe called on the conference to adopt a boycott of his own university, and alleged he was the victim of "restriction" and "harassment." Jews harrasing Jews. The only other thing that I would like to tell you is that Sharon is a mad beast on the path of confrontation,suicide, self destruction and self extermination. Once you guys and girls see that sanctions have been imposed by the U.S ,EU and other countries very quietly then pack up and leave the country. Israel has 500 nukes and it will try to blackmail the world by using its "samson option" in my opinion David Koresh fate. So once you see more sanctions coming start leaving the country. For the rest of you in United States and other places who are working as Sayanims(Israeli helpers) and have been working against the interests of the country where you are residing "BEST OF LUCK" on your safety. Keep on updating the events yourself and you will realize that I am right. The Jews outside Israel have a tendency out of arrogance and stupidity that they dont want to admit that they are drowning politically and legally.
14. The canary in the mine.
Philip Weinstein ,   Richboro PA   (04.24.05)
This action by the British University "Professors" just confirms the fact that education does not cure obsessional thinking such as racism or antisemitism. More importantly, it is another event that proves that antisemitism is no longer taboo. For these misfits who don't have the guts to acknowledge their antisemitism, not caring about Israeli civilians who have been killed or maimed for life by Palestinian suicide bombers is not different than their Parents and grandparents who did everything to thwart the escape of Jews from the death camps. From Breckinrige Long, the US State Department official who deliberately withheld lifesaving visas from desparate Jews to the cold-hearted Brits who refused to allow Jews to enter the Holy Land, to FDR who turned away the St. Louis from allowing the refugees to land in the US, so-called reaspectable and educated leaders have no pangs of conscience as long as Jews are the victims. This call to boycott, along with the disgraceful action of the New Zealand Prime Minister in allowing the MP Tamihjere back into the party after he expressed disgust at hearing about the Holocaust is a warning about worst things to come.
15. Why aren't the arabs boycotted?
Ignacio ,   Zaragoza, Spain   (04.24.05)
Ethnic cleansing, racism, terror, massive killings, culture extermination... I wonder when are the arabs be boycotted. I mean, I've never heard of any journalist explaining that if there is islamophobia, its because saudi family funds al qaeda. Antisemites and racists should makeit better, common people can still see them naked with no clothes, like the emperor...
16. re: Sal
Al Lei ,   New York, USA   (04.24.05)
Sal, - US Muslims & Arabs in particular voted for Kerry, not Bush -Ariel Sharon is positively covered in many news outlets. -Palestinian Intifada is defeated and Palestinians probably would never get as much as Barak had offered. -Arafat is gone - Ariel Sharon is around still and had mastered to stay in his post despite numerous obstacles. -Syria is kicked out of Lebanon. Hizbollah is desperate to find a way to stay important. -What Sandy Burger has to do with anything ? - Hamas and Hizbollah are increasingly sidelined and pressured in the world (try giving some money to your favorite organization - you'll risk ending up in jail) -AIPAC is far from dysfunctional - dream on. -Governor of Connecticut is not Jewish if that's what you are alluding to (hey, bigot) -Ebber (Worldcom) - same story. -Israeli planes will not fly a few hundred feet from Asad's villa. They'll fly a bit higher up - not that it even makes any difference. -Israel was the main source of information on the Iraqi threat - that exists only in your vivid imagination. Lying, lying... -John Negroponte is known as being strongly pro-Israel Sorry but your points are very ridiculous and full of nonsense. Chinese & Israeli Axis ? :) Perhaps it is time to enroll in an undergrad program, buddy ? Or maybe stop watching the biggest liar of all - Al-Jazeera.
17. British ban
Raoul Schur ,   Haifa, Israel   (04.24.05)
The question is not whether the British ban on Israeli academics is scandalous, ourageous or whatever. The question is WHAT IS THE BRITISH PUBLIC DOING ABOUT IT? Silence in bigotry and racism is complicity.
18. Sal and his facts
Sigfried S.Kuhn ,   Aberdeen MD   (04.24.05)
I read the nonsense that Sal calls facts and now understand that the Arabs have mastered Goebbels theory of propaganda. The Arabs continually repeat the same lies over and over again, add their vicious antisemitism and voila,many miserable bigots and closet antisemites and self-hating and uninformed Jews become sympathetic to the Palestinians because they actually believe the lying Arab propaganda . Sal takes it one step further in his ridiculous diatribe-almost into the land of delusions.
19. On the Brit union ban
Andrew Casey ,   Australia   (04.24.05)
Can I suggest people make direct contact with the silly British union behind this ban. Try to be polite and reasonable when you send them messages...though I would understand if you were not Here is the Gen-Sec's e-mail address: sally.hunt@aut.org.uk Here is the President's e-mail address: president@aut.org.uk Here is the head office e-mail address: hq@aut.org.uk The e-mail address for the union's press office: press@aut.org.uk And this is the e-mail address for the person in charge of international policy: brian.everett@aut.org.uk
20. Anti-Semistic UK - Nothing new
Frank Berman ,   Karmiel, Israel   (04.24.05)
Anti-Semitism and Jew hating is not a new thing in the UK. Jews were thrown out of York during the reign of Queen Anne. Many were massacred. The Prince of Wales, later Edward VIII was a supporter of Hitler. The British Government imprisoned Jews, refugess from the death camps, in concentration camps after the war. What do you expect from a country where a prince, 3rd in line to the throne, goes to a party dressed as a Nazi? Finally, at the time of the creation of the State of Israel, there were no Palestinians, just Arabs and Jews. For the record, 20% of the students at Haifa University are Arab Israelis!
21. The destruction of Israel is their real goal.
naro ,   nyc   (04.24.05)
The head of the boycott movement in Britiain has explicitly stated that her goal was to delegitimize the "illegitimate State of Israel.' The boycott is just the first step in that effort. This must be fought with all legal and muscular vigour. There must be huge demontrations in the affected schools, with sit- in , and disruptions. Jews must not act like sheep. Haven't we learned that yet?
22. An insult to the title of Teacher
Philip Weinstein ,   Richboro PA   (04.24.05)
The British "Professors" Union accused Haifa University of not allowing dissent based on a letter from Pappe, a pro-Palestinian Jew. That Haifa University has a large Arab population was not relevant to these inquisitors. Yet, the organization scheduled the meeting on the eve of Passover to exclude Jewish Professors from arguing against the boycott measure. As if this were not enough, no counter-arguments against the proposed boycott were allowed. Talk about not allowing dissenting voices to be heard. Only people like Sue Blackwell who has an obsessive hatred for Israel and advocates the destruction of the Jewish State were allowed to present their propaganda campaign of lies. So, the facts are that an organization that votes to boycott a University for a lack of academic freedom allows no dissent from its political agenda. The question to think about is why are they doing this? That they are liars and hypocrites is a fact. That they are full of hatred is a fact. That they are Jew haters disguising themselves as anti-Zionist progressives is probably true of most of them. That they are an insult to the title of Teacher or Professor is apparent.
23. I am an Arab in Haifa, thanks for dissing my school, jerks
Salaam Aleikum ,   Haifa, Israel   (04.25.05)
Do they know how many Arab students go there?????
24. All Western universities should be boycotted
Mahmoud Ferozi ,   Tehran, Iran   (04.25.05)
It's about time!!!!
25. Why not boycott all Israeli universities?
Amina Taoub ,   Cape Town, South Afr   (04.25.05)
Rename them University of Palestine, or Palestine University, or Palestine Technion, or Palestine University of the Arts, or Palestine Community College, or Palestine A&M, or Palestine State University... cancel all degrees from Israel and revoke all Nobel Prizes and STOP USING ANY ISRAELI INVENTIONS, INCLUDING CHAT SOFTWARE AND SIDEWAYS TOW TRUCKS AND DRIP IRRIGATION!!! And stop shopping at Ikea, they are all over occupied Israel!!!!!!
26. Boycott Britain... until Wales and Scotland are free...
Joel Pollak ,   Haifa, Israel   (04.25.05)
...and the Norman invaders have been kicked back across the Channel!!!
27. Ban in Haifa and Bar-llan Uni
Charles ,   Australia   (04.25.05)
Israeli, Universities that suppress their Proffessors ? lectureres and students from speaking out against any attrocities, and gag them from speaking for the truth and Peace .. deserve to be Isolated, as these Educators are breeding Evil.
28. The hypocritical world we live in.
London, Canada   (01.08.09)
What do people expect the Israelis do when Hamas keeps poking them and threatening their very lives. Eventually the Israelis explode and respond to the violence. After all, they are not just going to sit there and take it politely. Jews have been oppressed since the very beginning. We have been pushed out of every single country just because people needed someone to blame for their economic problems, etc. And now that we finally have our own country, everyone just wants to see us shrivel back down to the ground. Well let me tell you, we are not rats... we are PEOPLE, the same as you. We have rights to protect ourselves from attacks. Finally we have the strength to defend ourselves when for centuries we weren't able to. What about when the British, the Spanish and the French toke land away from the natives of North and South America. We don't consider these nations to be brutal beasts, why not? And second of all, it was the British who gave the land to the Jews in the first place! Talk about hypocrites. They must have known they were throwing them into the lion's den. Please people, before you judge others; look at the atrocities you have committed to others... and sometimes to your own people. I could go on and on... do some research before you make ignorant statements based on anti-Semitism.
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