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Art of the mangal
By Shelly Paz and Natasha Mozgovaya
Published: 10.05.05, 14:32
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1. You are kidding
Sami ,   UK   (05.10.05)
You are kidding are't you,masters you are in stealing culture and call it Jewaish like El Mangal, Befor you took their homeland homes and after that their clothe and old ways dressing and claimes it for you, food ( Falafel houmoss etc..)and you claims it for yourselves. Why you do that the answer is very clear , and all of you knows it too well????????!!!!
2. To sami
(05.10.05)
We only borrow from other cultures. Unlike you who destroys other cultures and refuses to assimilate with other countries.
3. To 2 Mr Military Liberal Democrat Socialist Civilized war M
Sami ,   UK   (05.10.05)
We do not go round peoples countries occupy it, kill as much as you can, tell them it is ‘Goods gift to us, since we are chosen’, and the rest ethnically cleanse them, or , Build ghettos with massive walls and electric barbwires and keep the gates looked on them and sell them what we make by force since no one allowed to deal with them. and then, we play our favourite sport of shooting their children women and animals and destroy any green thing comes out of the ground, then you call them all the names you chose for them Terrorists , Animals , Ignorants , and so on , and you then Mr Military Liberal Democrat Socialist Civilized war Machine tell us because they “who destroys other cultures and refuses to assimilate with other countries.” Do not tell yourself lies, be truthful with yourself and look around you and see what did you do in the last 50 years or so, and tell me that you are innocent of murdering them and you are the son of Global peace movement who spreads Justices and equality and looks after the victims of the evil Military machine . that machine in Israel who never even trusted a civilian to be in government and always led by blood thirsty generals like Sharon . look around you and think???????
4. Cheers
George ,   Palestine   (05.10.05)
Enjoy it! you are welcome in others land! we as Palestinians not allowed to visit our families and live in our own land! and you are coming from all over the world and having nice time (Barbecues & Wine .... ). Cheers guys its your time!
5. Orient and Ottoman
Mehmet ,   Istanbul   (05.10.05)
Mangal is Turkish word and turkish tradition also.. "al ha'esh" is arabic word.. in Turkey Mangal and barbecue is different.. Mangal uses charcoal as a fire.. barbecue uses electrical heater or other means.. shish kebap.. tavuk izgara.. shish tavuk.. chiverme (doner) are famous turkish words.. Just for Information...
6. Al Ha'esh
Shai ,   Litt   (05.11.05)
Nope, Mehmet. Al Ha'esh is an expression over 3500 years old. It appears in the Bible in connection with sacrificial offerings, in Hebrew.
7. Sami, UK
Burnem ,   USA   (05.11.05)
"We do not go round peoples countries occupy it, kill as much as you can, tell them it is ‘Goods gift to us, since we are chosen’, and the rest ethnically cleanse them" LOL You are writing that from the UK, yes?
8. To sami #3
(05.11.05)
"We do not go round peoples countries occupy it, kill as much as you can, tell them it is ‘Goods gift to us, since we are chosen’, and the rest ethnically cleanse them, or" You should tell that to the people of Jordan, Lebanon, and Kuwait. Also lets not forget that the arabs main goal in the 1948 war was to kill and drive out the Jews. And that Arab states threw out/killed their Jewish populations. Lets ask an Israeli arab if he was ethnically cleansed? "Build ghettos" Israel did not build the refugee camps. It was the palestinians themselves and Jordan and Egypt. When Begin offered permenant housing the palestinians refused. "with massive walls and electric barbwires and keep the gates looked on them" And when this wall built? When the palestinians used terrorism. It was the terror groups who built it. "and then, we play our favourite sport of shooting their children women" Yes ofcourse thats why over 90% of those palestinians killed are males between 13-30. And lets not forget just a few weeks ago paletinian terrorists tried to shoot an anti-tank missile at a bus full of children. You like to overlook the fact that terror groups always attack civilians. " Do not tell yourself lies, be truthful with yourself and look around you and see what did you do in the last 50 years or so, " Transformed the desert to garden? Made the first democracy of the middle east? One of the strongest economies in the region without any natural resources? "and tell me that you are innocent of murdering them " Yet again, it was always the arabs that started the wars, yet they immediately cry when they lose. If you can't take what you dish out then don't start it in the first place. " that machine in Israel who never even trusted a civilian to be in government " Considering that their are many civilians (including arabs) in the Israeli government I don't see how you say that. To put it simply you like to play the victim after trying to murder someone. Mr. Anti-semite
9. Terrible advice
Jeff ,   Washington, D.C.   (05.11.05)
Mr. Zidkiyahu knows nothing about grilling, nor do most Israelis if his advice is typical. The best grilling is done with natural, hardwood charcoal, not with chemical lighter fluid. Fires started with natural charcoal using a "chimney" device don't need to be fanned with anything, and don't leave your food tasting like lighter fluid.
10. To #8
Uncle Sam ,   Chicago   (05.12.05)
Why there is and will be terrorist acts against Israel? The answer is MILLITARLY OCCUPATION. End the occupation, will end the terror. Also if all the Russians, go back, and the rest of you go back where you came from, that will be the best thing to do to the Humanity and to the USA. We in Chicago wellcome ALL the Chicagoan's back home here in Chicago.
11. To 10
(05.12.05)
Would like to explain why their was terrorism before 1967 and 1948?
12. to 11
mike ,   usa   (05.14.05)
like the king david hotel? You DO know who was the first terrorist in Israel, now dont you?
13. Mangal
Anonymous ,   New York   (05.14.05)
It's unbelievable how even a perfectly innocent subject, like this one, can unleash such a torrent of verbal diarrhea like what I've seen here. Those of you who insist on blaming Israel for every evil in the world really need to get over it already. You people have no idea how tedious you are.
14. Come on Now
Steve ,   New York   (05.15.05)
Lets see... who are the "Palestinians". They are nobody; they are on the lowest scale in the Arab world and not even the Arabs actually care about them. Why is it when Israel tries to help out these poor people by trying to build them homes and schools, the rest of the rich Arab world, prohibits them from doing so. The people that are trying to invade the land of Israel, have a home, and that is in Jordan. Israel has never committed any crime against any state or person. Self defense is not a crime in any respectable culture. Tell the invaders in the land of Israel to stop killing innocent Israeli men, woman, and children and then there will be peace in the Middle East. Why is it that when people want to live in peace some just cant let them, lets say the insurgents in Iraq right now. Btw, why cant Arabs and Jews live in harmony anyways, since we are all brothers. And I will welcome any Islamic person that wants to convert to Judiasm, because how can an individual believe in one religion when it says in his own texts that the Jewish people are the chosen people? Well I just hope there is peace, and I hope that once the Arab people living in the West Bank and Gaza get their own state they stop supporting and harboring terroists Peace in the Middle East
15. COMON STEVE READ THIS
GEORGE SAMI   (05.17.05)
FIRST : THIS IS THE SAME WORDS JEWS WERE DESCRIBED BY THE NAZI , SECOND WHO TOLD YOU THAT WE WERE BROTHERS ? , HOW BECOME AN ARAB BE ABROTHER OF APERSON COMES FROM RUSSIA OR POLAND ? , BUT WE HAVE ARELATION WITH THE ARAB JEWS WHO LIVED AMONG US. THIRD : AND AT THE END YOU CHANGED YOUR LANGUAGE AND ADMITTED THAT THERE ARE ARAB PALESTINIANS IN WEST BANK AND IN GAZA , AND ALSO IN WHAT YOU CALL IT ISRAEL . WAKE UP AND READ OTHER BOOKS RATHER THAN THE BIBLE AND IT FALSE TALE .
16. #13 Mangal
Cynthia ,   USA   (05.18.05)
Nothing like a mangal, a big plate of hummus and freshly made felafel to bring people together. Except this group. I agree with Anonymous. Is all this belligerence necessary? At least Mahmet offered information. Sami you need professional help. In any event, the mangal my brother-in-law from Tel Aviv makes is really one of the best! Just thinking about it makes me hungry. Please lighten up and put your daggers down.
17. to 12
(05.18.05)
Would like to talk about the arab riots from 1920-1930, which drove out the Jewish populations from Judea and Samaria? You're telling me that wasn't terrorism? Roving gangs radomnly attacking Yeshuvim? Anyways what does the king david hotel bombing have to do with the previous point? That was the british HQ for military operations. It had nothing to do with arabs in the least bit of the sense. So please explain, why their was terrorism before the "occupation" in 67 and even before Israel's existence during pre-48 times?
18. to uncle sam
JOSH M ,   DALLAS   (06.24.05)
I have a question for you. So it's OK for you to drive out and ethnically cleanse hudreds of thousands (maybe millions) of native American-Indians who have been on the land we call America (named after some european navigator), and confine them in meak and dinky reservations with some of the worst social situations in the country, but Its not OK for a people with a PROVEN history to establish a government in an area which has had a Jewish presence far longer than anyone even knew what a Qor'an was. If you ask me, the US is the biggest occupation of all times. NO,, but its OK cause weve been here for 200+ years. The US has enslaved millions of Africans, practiced real apartheid. Israel is one of the best places in the world for Arabs to live. As for the the Palestinians (the non Israeli-Arabs, which you probably arent familiar with), I pray that they gain better freedom of movement when the security situation lightens up. At least they arent slaves who are beaten like in the US. Listen: if the Israelis put down the weapons tommorow, there will be no Israel - If the Palestinian militants put them down tomorow, there will be PEACE. You know that much is true.
19. To Mike # 12
Gil ,   London   (06.28.05)
Not only did they blow up the King David Hotel but they also hanged an English sergeant in the street. This is after the English turned away heavily filled boatloads of German refugees which either sank in the med or returned to the gas chambers. Lets not forget the hundreds of Jewish resistance fighters that were hanged by the British.
20. Mangal Grills
Richard Gray ,   29 Palms CA, USA   (03.15.11)
Does anyone know where I might buy one in USA?
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