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Palestinian farmers: Don’t leave
By Miri Chason
Published: 31.05.05, 17:40
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1. Don't Worry, habibi: We Will NEVER Leave
Gaza Jew ,   Gush Katif, ISRAEL   (05.31.05)
This is OUR land and we will continue to make it blossom. We will also continue to provide for you and your families and inshalah, will bring even more employment in the future as we grow.
2. Maybe Hamas will Forcefeed the Koran
tom rogers ,   chicago, il   (05.31.05)
3. Confusion
Alex ,   Boston   (05.31.05)
What will Toby do if Masta leave? Toby won't have no work! Toby cant feed family! Masta must stay! I think it'd be more appropriate to keep the root causes of employment, social and economical problems in refugee camps in context when discussing sensitive topics like this. If I was making more money working for a settler than I could in town, I wouldn't want them to leave either. However, I'd prolly blame Israel, the PA, the US, and the settlers just as these being interviewed. How can you figure out who's to blame when it's gone on this long? Your family's land is gone, your government cannot be trusted, and the hand that feeds you is attached to the foot that pins you down. Utter confusion!
4. to CRAZY jew settler
(05.31.05)
yes, you will leave. You welfare check giver, the USA says so. And trust me, the Palestinians will be DARN glad when you do.
5. US Aid Does NOT Go To Judea, Samaria, and Gaza Jews
Judah ,   Judea   (05.31.05)
By US law, all money that Israel spends in the Jewish communities of Judea, Samaria, and Gaza is deducted from US aid, so don't worry about us- keep your money. PS We're not leaving OUR land.
6. Israel's "Leaders" Bring Catastrophe On All
Adina Kutnicki ,   NJ, US   (05.31.05)
The Gazan farmer who indicted Rabin and currently Sharon in this article is thinking very clearly. Israel brought Arafat back from the exiled dead in the belief that a strongman was going to be able to do the heavy lifting that the IDF and the government needed to do. In their insane quest for "peace" at any price, they imported an unrepentant terrorist that wrecked havoc on Israelis and Arabs. The leftist cabal in Israel who supported this move also have very bloody hands. These Israeli "leaders" didn't want to bother with the necessary underpinnings needed for a free society. That is why they shamefully ignored all the incitement out of the PA/PLO thinking it wouldn't backfire on them personally. They have given the Israeli people, and these simple farmers a legacy of bloodshed that will last for generations. These avowed terrorists had every reason to feel confident that Israel's "leaders" will eventually bring catatrophe upon their people. They needed to bide their time and blow people up. These Israeli "leaders" would do the rest for them. Mark my words - Peres, Sharon and the PA terrorists don't give a damn about average farmers making a living and living in peace. The casinos and hotels will "blossom" in this desert in order to line the pockets of these corrupt "leaders'. If the people are smart - both the "settlers" and those Arabs who wish for them to stay -they will confront the expulsion head on.
7. Hang in there, Settlers!
Ann C. ,   USA   (05.31.05)
The Settlers, in the end, will NOT leave. What most folks don't understand is that this isn't a battle for Yesha, but for all Israel. This will turn into a HUGE victory for the Settlers before all is said and done. Thank you YNET, for this article. It's always the poor citizen who suffers because of corruption in governments, sigh.
8. Poster # 4 - You Shall See What Happens
Adina Kutnicki ,   NJ, US   (05.31.05)
Anonymous poster # 4 - You are completely ignorant of the realities of the situation. ALL the money LOANED to Israel from the US is worth its weight in gold. It is the ONLY country in the bloody mideast that gives the US its much needed security information and technological assistance. On the other hand, the US gives the corrupt despotic Egyptian regime billions ! in the hopes that they will do the right thing if the Saudis are deposed. Which gamble do you think will pay off more? Perhaps your antisemitic mind can't wrap itself around these facts. If you think that the "settlers" are giving up THEIR land without a fight you are mistaken. The US tried to impose itself on Israel many times in the past. When the people rise up there is nothing Bush can do. You shall see.
9. I am not Surprised at ALL!
Abdullah ,   Kuwait   (05.31.05)
Occupation is an ugly thing and it is sad that some Palestinians considers the Israeli occupation of Gaza as best of the worse! I think Mr. Abbas should do a full system flush to get rid of all of Arafat left overs that are still in business in the occupied territories!
10. To the guy who wrote "to CRAZY jew settler"
Abe ,   New York   (05.31.05)
You don't even have the guts to put your name down you YELLOW COWARD! I know you're type. You people spend all day looking for Israeli websites with open forums like this one that allow you to say what ever you want, so that you can spew your garbage. People like you are the most closed minded people out there. You only believe what you want to believe, NOT THE FACTS! P.S.- GET A LIFE!
11. The US has no $$ left for anyone.
akiva rogers ,   chicago, il   (05.31.05)
Everyone needs to realize, the US will not be calling the shots very soon
12. TO NUMBER2
ramallah ,   ramallah   (05.31.05)
In this Koran has a message for you and for the rest of your people, but you chosen to ignore it with the others. I promise you a day will come and you will regret that you did not fellow the teaching of the Koran, It is called the judgment day
13. an Article that HURTS!
Ramzi Sfeir ,   Palestine   (05.31.05)
It hurts to read this article and it shows a very very bad side of the " Disengagement", Palestinians are looking forward for the second israel will leave us alone! Its not because YNET interviewed two uneducated unaware persons that this is what ALL palestinians feel! the Palestinian society is not Individualist! and yes, You will leave this land and you will leave all the lands occupied( And i state INTERNATIONAL LAW) after 1967! Whether you like it or not! whether you live in New York or in Gaza, nobody cares! You are the enemies of peace and one day or another you will leave all of the west Bank too! Uncle Sam is ordering you to do so VERY SLOWLY! and i am full of hope and i see this happening in the next decade! this is the only solution for PEACE! JUST PEACE! Did i hurt anyone? maybe its the RIGHT WAY TO GO! being Sentimental is the WORSE thing in our case! And sometimes, what HURTS must be SAID!
14. to 8 and 10
(05.31.05)
the settlers WILL move out of the Occuppied territories, by force if necessary- you would NEVER dare to challenge your one "ally" country on the planet- especially at this point in time, when the USA is about sick of you.
15. To Abdullah
Anonymous   (05.31.05)
Mr. Abbas IS one of the Arafat left-overs.
16. Poster # 14 - The Citizens Aren't Afraid of the US
Adina Kutnicki ,   NJ, US   (05.31.05)
To poster # 14 - Think again about your prognosis. Actually, the US Congress is almost solidly behind Israel, and the American people understand that ANOTHER Muslim terror state is NOT in their best interests either. Even though Bush is forced to be PC and dances around the fact that Islam is a violent religion, he too knows the score. You are a fool to believe otherwise.
17. To #13
Proud Jew ,   Australia   (06.01.05)
When are you brainwashed ignorant muslims going to realise that there never has been a sovereign state called Palestine. Your so called nation is an invention of the PLO spin doctors and an off-shoot of Arab nationalism that grew out of the collapse of the Ottoman Empire and Post WWI. You are pawns of your so-called arab/muslim brothers. WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO WAKE UP!! The Jewish people have a G-d given right to the land of Israel not the invented nation of Palestine.
18. Stop the Arab occupation of Jewish lands!
Daisy ,   USA   (06.01.05)
That is the real occupation!
19. ramzi; "Palestinians" don't exist!
Daisy ,   USA   (06.01.05)
They were invented by the Arabs to steal Jewish land. The first people to be called "Palestinians" were the Jews. You should go back to Arabia where you came from and leave Israel to the indigenous Jews. IT IS THEIR HOMELAND NOT YOURS!
20. Disengage from all of Israel
American Jew ,   Arizona   (06.01.05)
I heard Barak speak about the disengagement, he was pro the idea, however he clearly said that its like a fourth attempt in a failed marriage. He went on to say that it’s our only hope bla bla bla… Israeli politicians have this complex about there legitimacy of Israel belonging to the Jews. Therefore they do everything to fit in to the world and be a nation like everyone ells. For example bring in a world recognized terrorists Yasser Arafat and turn him in to a political figure to create an illusion of a prospect for peace. When in truth, the world will always be obsessed with the Jew (as you see now and throughout history). The answer to all conflict in the middle east is for Sharon to put on a Kipa (Just like Arafat wore a Kafia and all other unabashed Arab leaders who wear Muslim garb) and say that Israel belongs to the Jews not because of the balfor declaration (which was rejected by the Arab world) and not because of some made up Zionist theory, but because it says it in the bible and if you don’t believe it, we have thousands of years of archeological evidence to prove it. And if the Israelis don’t believe this, not only should they disengage from the Gaza strip, but also from the entire Israel. Because risking Jewish lives in order to have a strip joint in the Middle East isn’t worth it!
21. Arabs are the settlers not Jews!
Daisy ,   USA   (06.01.05)
22. SHOWING UTTER CONTEMPT FOR JEWS & 3000 ARAB FAMILIES
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (06.01.05)
Was justice and mercy served by importing savage PLO terrorists from Tunisia and setting them up as a ruthless dictatorship over the Arabs? It was not! Are the Jew-haters who are so eager for ethnic Jew cleansing, prepared to provide financially for the 3000 Arabs and their very large families? They are not! A short while ago, Hamas murdered an innocent young Muslim girl. Hamas severely beat her fiance and her younger sister. What were they guilty of? Nothing! The blood of this innocent Muslim girl cries out from the ground to G-D. All the Jews who have been murdered; their blood cries out to G-D. Genesis 4:10: "He said, What have you done? The vioice of your brother's blood is crying to Me from the ground." On Judgment Day, G-D will not reward murder. G-D will punish murder!
23. to # 12
Jake ,   Arizona   (06.01.05)
Your telling me that all 4 billion people in the world who aren’t Muslim are doomed on this so called “judgment day” By the way why do Muslim’s get so upset when they die for there non existent cause. when in fact (or at least what they believe) they are going to heaven with 60 virgins… This just goes to show the fallacy in Islam, they cant imagine any other pleasure besides for what’s on this finite earth so they take sex times 60 and kill men woman and children with it (if your to dumb to know what I’m talking about it’s a suicide bomber)
24. True Facts - to # 13
Aaron Simon ,   Toronto, Canada   (06.01.05)
You say: "You will leave this land and you will leave all the lands occupied( And i state INTERNATIONAL LAW) after 1967". This is FALSE. According to U.N. Resolution 242, Israel must leave "Territories occupied" - not "all the lands occupied" as you state. Additionally, 242 is contingent on having safe and secure borders. As long as terror persists, safe borders are not held. So Israel does not have to leave all of the land, and certainly not even a partial pullout until terror has ceased. Hence, according to U.N. Resolution 242, Israel is abiding by International Law.
25. to no 17
SJ ,   uk   (06.01.05)
And when are YOU going to learn some basic manners? Why such a vitiolic response - do you feel so threatened and insecure of your position that you have to use such a contemptous tone and be so totally dismissive of other human beings. If the land of Israel is truely your G-d given right, why don't you wait for G-d to give it to you. Or are you even mighter than He? Perhaps it is you that needs to WAKE UP ... to your own scripture! In peace Sister Mercy
26. Ping #12
t.l. ,   Israel   (06.01.05)
You don't actually believe all the crap you wrote, do you? I mean, seriously, how the hell are Arabs planning to deal with Israel? With the rest of the world? Do you think what your Imams are preaching to you, that one day Islam will rule the world, do you actually believe this nonsense? Maybe it's time the Muslims stop reading all this religion motivated hate and join the 21th century. As for the Palestinian Arabs, surviving on their own will be the hardest part of independence. Israel already said it will bar Palestinians from working in Israel. When a peace agreement is finalized, the Palestinian Arabs will suffer. With your kind of government in power it is guaranteed.
27. Proud Jew...Dont be too proud
Ramzi Sfeir ,   Palestine   (06.01.05)
First of all, I am not an Ignorant...secondly i am not a Muslim, as far as you are concerned, i am a PALESTINIAN! and you are a big racist...secondly, before asking me to wake up, Try to wake up yourself! NO MORE COMMENTS! just take care of yourself because one day Justice will WIN! you will be sent to court, you will get a few years in jail and everyone will hate you more than you are hated now, RACISM is not on the menu of the day anymore! I am a PALESTINIAN, I live on the LAND of Palestine, I BELIEVE SO! and its more than Enough! I dont need your belief! As for the GOD given right, this always makes me laugh..its the KILLER argument that no one can counter! but at the same time...no one can proove! But this is not the question you dumbo! PALESTINIANS RECOGNIZE ISRAEL NOW! And as far as i am concerned, I NEVER WAS FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL ( inside the 1967 armistice line)! I REPEAT AGAIN , you can VERY WELL believe and be convinced that we are an INVENTED NATION...but philosophically ( a higher level of thinking..probably higher than your level) , everything on this planet is invented! but who cares? AS LONG AS WE BELIEVE IT! What can you do about it? take my advice and go for a very very long ride, its way more constructive than trying to Tell us that we dont exist! WE WILL RESPOND AND PROOVE YOU VERY WRONG! Long live PALESTINE for its alive in my heart! The only way to kill it is to kill me! But this makes u a criminal...by the way, its funny how WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING RACIST TO SAY, you dont use your name! " Proud Jew"! are you scared ? I bet you are! ...Besides let me Quote something Really interesting from your message : " The Jewish people have a G-d given right to the land of Israel not the invented nation of Palestine." well yeah , you might have a right in the land of Israel...BUT ZERO RIGHTS ON THE LAND OF PALESTINE! as far as i am concerned, God doesnt have a seat in the UN security council! and as far as i am concerned, Israel is an occupation force in Gaza and the West Bank, whether you like it or not! the international Community, INCLUDING ISRAEL and THE UNITED STATES admit it! i dont see why little tiny ignorant you can't WAKE UP and stop dreaming! This is the part where you should have nothing else to say......and question youself " Why did i directly connect Palestinian( a Nationality) to Muslim ( a Religion) , Why am i a racist?? Am i right to act like that? " Now do me a favour and reply with something More constructive and more logical... avoid quoting god... he never quoted you!
28. arafat crapped on the "palestinians' with HIS infatada
Bunnie Meyer ,   Santa Monica, CA USA   (06.01.05)
arafat crapped on the "palestinians' with HIS infatada and all the palestinians who had been making good wages in Israel lost their jobs. arafat stole all the aid money so he could keep HIS people in poverty and misery so he could have HIS war. G-D gave the land of Israel to the Jews and no bunch of Jordanians calling themselves "palestinians" will conquer the Jews and steal their land.
29. To # 27 and SJ
Proud Jew ,   Australia   (06.01.05)
SJ if you want to say something, learn how to spell the words properly. To Ramzi, you love to speak about racism but the arab, muslim world are the true racists in this issue. The arab world encompass 99% of the middle east and you people cannot concede a small percentage to the Jewish people who do have a historical and spiritual connection to the land. Your dialogue is the same old nonsense you arabs/muslims like to dish up.
30. Hey People
Carol ,   Israel   (06.01.05)
Are any of you listening to yourselves? There is so much hate spewed in these talkbacks that I'm not surprised the world is like it is. I often answer hatred with humor but I really wish there was a place for real discussion.
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