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'I saved Khaled Mashaal'
By Ronen Bergman
Published: 17.06.05, 19:23
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1. State terrorism
accessol ,   Spelthorne, England   (06.17.05)
This is a story of an attempted murder by the Israel government in a foreign country and all Ronen Bergman seems to consider important is the feelings of one of the team of assassins: "It sounds like a horror movie – essentially, you were asked to give yourself up to the Jordanians under a false name...". The 'horror' of it is not that part of the story but the total lack of any moral or ethical considerations by the Jewish State. Herzl dream has come true: in Israel today, state terrorism is just another job, like that of a fireman or of a prostitute.
2. Hello??
Zeev ,   Israel   (06.17.05)
You have never heard of MI6, SAS or the CIA? Why single out Israel?
3. The HORROR of ISLAMIC TERROR
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (06.17.05)
Of the 400 Islamist terrorists that Israel just released (Israel Prisons Authority list): 76 carried out shooting attacks, 53 planted or threw bombs, 41 threw Molotov cocktails and firebombs. Most of the other Islamist terrorists were convicted of trading weapons, manufacturing bombs and involvement in the murder of Arabs suspected of helping Israel. The Islamist murderers of the Jewish Gaza 8 months pregnant mother and four little daughters were hailed as heroes by the Palestinian Authority. Every time Jews are murdered by Islamic human bombers, THOUSANDS of PA society Muslims celebrate in the streets. worldnetdaily.com June 11 2005 'Nigeria's war on Christians' 'Islamic law brings death, suffering to non-Muslims' "More than 10,000 Christians have been killed since 1999, the year Islamic Sharia law was introduced in Nigeria. Nearly 1,000 homes and churches have been burned down by Muslim radicals..."
4.  Listen stupid englisman ! What about Yair Stern ?
David ,   Kfar-Saba   (06.17.05)
What about the cold murder of the jewish freedom fighter Avraham (Yair) Stern (zal) by the english special services in 1942 ! Meshal is a horrible terrorist who kills jewish civilians in purpose ! Shame on u !
5. opps! Bibi was responsible for this foul up!
betty boop ,   cartoon land   (06.17.05)
but the real questions are.... how are Linda Rivera's comments related to this story? AND Don't you find it interesting that she has posted a comment about how wonderful Secretary of State Condi Rice is and how well she compares to the American Military and security advisors from 1967? ;-)
6. accessol
Jay ,   Chicago   (06.17.05)
Why are you so outraged? The man the Israelis tried to get is a known and recognized terrorist who is responsibile for hundredes of deaths at a minimum. He does nto ditinguish between civilians and the army. I am am not a conservative and I say the mossad shoul have gone after this guy a long time ago. Israel has an obligation to protect its citicens and as past examples have demonstrated such as Eichman and Entebee, israel will go to the ends of the earth to hunt down nazis and terrorists. you are from the UK? What about all those opperations against the IRA? The uk was not exactly following international law.
7. 1997 AND NOT 1996
Marwan ,   Palestine   (06.17.05)
The attempt was in october 1997 and not 96 as you mentioned above
8. How not to treat a serious subject
accessol ,   Spelthorne, England   (06.17.05)
My criticism is of the article, rather than the attempted murder and the mossad foul-up itself. Maybe the printed version of the article in the weekend edition treats the subject with a bit more vigour and critical objectivity than what appears here. The web version, with its dumbed down and childish questions like "You didn't mind the poison? Such a terrible way to die, even for someone like Mashaal… " are worthy of a write up about Posh Spice in OK magazine rather than a piece of serious journalism in an intelligent newspaper. But then perhaps I am unfairly judging Yediot by comparing it with say, Liberation or the Independent.
9. To Miss Rivera
Tel aviv, Israel   (06.17.05)
You're never tired nor never rest? For a start why don't you make Allyah to Israel, your place is obviously with them. By them I mean your Gush Katif's friends evidently since there's absolutely nothing else who cause you to write comments on this site, did you try to post anything on Haaretz instead?
10. Score
Uncle Sam ,   Chicago   (06.17.05)
I am keeping score, please I need help. How many children, women, old, and young people were murdered by both Israle vs the Palestinian. It wil be nice to group the numbers by period of years, i.e. Before 1948, 1948 to 1967, 1968 to 1974, 1975 to 1993, 1994- 2000, and 2001 till now Thanks in advance to every one who wil help filing up the table above. God Bless you ALL
11. STILL EARLY
RAMALLAH ,   RAMALLAH   (06.17.05)
SHME ON THIS STATE OF ISRAEL, A DAY WILL COME AND THE ALMIGHTY WILL GET EVEN WITH ALL OF YOU . THE GOOD NEWS YOU STILL HAVE TIME TO ASK FOR FORGIVNESS, OTHER WISE NO ONE CAN HELP YOU , NOT EVEN THE ALL MEDICINE ISRAEL HAVE.
12. To #5 betty boop who HATES TRUTH
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (06.17.05)
I have NEVER posted a comment that Condi Rice is wonderful. Why is it so important for you to lie about me??? I am absolutely horrified at Condi Rice's EXTREME racism against Jews. A hate so great she wants Jews ethnically cleansed from off their own Jewish land.
13. why not a bullet ?
Dave ,   Israel- Ramat Gan   (06.17.05)
I don' t understand why the Mossad didn' t kill this terror master with a bullet ! No need to complicate things ! With a bullet Mashal would be in hell now ! Too bad
14. To Un-american "Linda Rivera"
Anthony Horzino ,   Chicago   (06.17.05)
Your comments have nothing to do with subject , and your try to divert readers from how horrible is the Mosad and the people behind it. What Islam has to do with this subject, why your hear full of hate? Why do u think Jews innocent and they didn't do nothing in the past. who tried to kill Jesus or poisoned prophet Mohamed ? who is # 1 killer of kids in this whole world ? Read your Torah and Talmud and tell us what does it teach about non-Jews (gentiles) and how you should treat them? Read the Merchant of Venice for Shakespeare and tell us what he says about jaws? Ask any one except Sharon and yourself what they think about the illegal and illegitimate country of "Israel" Be as Newyorker and not jewyorker
15. Linda...I am just a cartoon character....
Betty Boop ,   cartoon land   (06.17.05)
and no where near as intelligent as you. Its just that you always praise the American Advisors from 1967 and so I thought you would also love Condi Rice. I find it very funny that anyone that doesn't agree with you is part of the evil cabal of EXTREME racism against Jews. FYI Jews aren't a race -- we come in all colors of the rainbow and are members of all racial groups. ;-) I think may-be you are the anti-semite with your boiling hatred and that is why you are soooooooo busy doing double time pretending to love us. what is this ethnically cleansed thing...does that mean that someone runs the jews through the laundry? By the way -- Gaza wasn't included in the Balfour Declaration! go do more research. oh! have a nice day.
16. to #9 Miss Rivera isn't Jewish...
Zionist ,   inside green line   (06.17.05)
so she can't make Allyah! at best she could come in and be a foreign worker. in fact that might be a good idea for her...have her come and be a foreign worker in Gaza...that would give her a rather interesting spin on things!
17. we support Mossad...and Miss Rivera
Patrice and Co ,   Belgium   (06.18.05)
I cannot believe (in fact i do) how many anti-semites bastards are writting on this forum ! You who dare to insult the Mossad...It would be funny to see you front of one Mossad agent. You would make in your pants ! Miss Rivera is right ! Thanks to her
18. number 14: what is your problem?
religious zionist ,   chicago   (06.18.05)
"who is # 1 killer of kids in this whole world ? " the answer to that would obviously be those in the Palestinian leadership who teach virulent antisemitism to schoolchildren and encourage them to blow themselves up and throw rocks at israeli soldiers, because martyrdom is more important to them than the value of human life (both israeli and palestinian). they murder their own children. duh. and since when is supporting israel an un-american activity? i think that you, sir, are the un-american one here. america = democracy israel = democracy ...i thought everyone knew that .
19. RIVERA IS NOT JEWISH
(06.18.05)
20. about mashal and bibi
Ramzi Sfeir ,   Palestine   (06.18.05)
Before the murder attempt, mashal was not known at all! With bibi's dumb ideas, mashaal became a VERY popular guy! BESIDES, israel was FORCED to free Yassin in order to beg for forgivness from jordan!!! Why do you blame Arafat? You brought the trouble to yourself! Did you forget that ? ISRAEL gave the AntiDote to mashaal , israel helped in the Creation of Hamas ( Golda meir) as a Counter-power for fatah , and israel liberated Yassin! WHO MADE HAMAS WHAT IT IS ??? During the intifada, israel RUINED the palestinian authority who is WAY more moderate than Hamas towards israel! Israel made HAmas much STRONGER than its very own government! For god's sake! FACE IT! If Hamas wins a big part of the parliement in the elections, its thanks to israel! Its easy to HIDE the truth , no Linda Rivera ?
21. All the time Bibi make mistakes
(06.18.05)
Bibi make mistake and get away with it.
22. Yitzhak Shamir assisted in creating Hamas....
(06.18.05)
and not Golda Meir. The rest of your comments are accurate.
23. if Bibi had really gotten away with it...he'd still be Prime
(06.18.05)
Minister...clearly he managed to fool us for a bit...but eventually we realized who Mr. Netanyahu is and what he stands for. That is why today he is no longer the Prime Minister.
24. Patrice and Co it would have been nicer if...
(06.18.05)
you refer to those of us who disagree with you simply as individuals who disagree with you. I am a semite...not an anti-semite. The Mossad is an organization made up of human beings. Ms. Rivera is only a human being. No human being is capable of causing me to lose control over my bowels. You see Patrice and Co -- The one and true God, Supreme and Serene is the only force above me. Have a nice day!
25. In defense of RIVERA- the non jew
the bible dilemma ,   earth   (06.18.05)
If it wasnt for her ilk- the holy rolling born again christian zionist- Israel would probably not be on ANY MAP on the planet- it is due to vast support by her kind that amps the aid, footage and US support for the jewish state of Israel- the messiah (to her) will only return after the jews gather in Israel- Palestine - whatever you call it- so thank her ,JEWS, she's your biggest fan. you owe her lunch.
26. to the bible dilemma...
(06.18.05)
The State of Israel was established by the hand of the one true God who gave this land to the Jews...assisted by one David Ben-Gurion. There was no Christian involvement in the matter...it was our Jewish fighting force...men and women who came out of the Holocaust and out of the deserts of North Africa and Yemen who set up this state. therefore, I for one don't owe anything to Linda and her ilk! Stop being revisionist and trying to rewrite the history of the Jewish state and filling it up with Christian rabble rousing babble. wishing you a great week.
27. a careful three week study of Linda Rivera's writing...
(06.18.05)
indicate that she is more than one person and that she is in fact a representative of the right wing Jewish Lobby functioning as a non-Jewish individual. It is predominantly material published by IMRI a pity it would be great if it were original thinking from one person...that would be so much more fun. so that's it...just another right wing thing! and not very original at that!
28. #27 Re: Linda Rivera
Sabientje ,   Utrecht, Netherlands   (09.02.07)
First of all, #27 you don't have the decency of signing your name whch makes you a coward. Stand up and say who you are...even if under the pretense as so many here do i.e. "Betty Boop" Second of all, all you are writing is pure crap. You are assuming things about Linda Rivera which quite show you as a pure ignorant dumbell who simly summarizes what his dumb brain cannot comprehend. I have been reading Linda Rivera's writings for quite some time and I know that she is one and only one person. So again, #27, go to the Arab site and waste your time there instead of coming to Ynet and spread lies and false assumptions. I said my peace.
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