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IDF tries 12 objectors
By Hanan Greenberg
Published: 27.06.05, 13:44
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31. Avi Bieber
Pat Swanson ,   United States   (06.27.05)
I support Avi Bieber - these men were trained to support Israel - not dismember it - I hope the whole israeli army join him.
32. Avi Beiber
Donna Calman ,   Webster, NY USA   (06.27.05)
Just wanted to support the soldier (American born) who said "A Jew doesn't evacuate a jew". Want to also mention he saw his commanders were beating the Jews. What is wrong with this picture. Dear G-d, help us
33. Avi Beiber
Claire Muzal ,   Seneca, USA   (06.27.05)
Avi Beiber is a hero -- He is right and the whole country should stand with him and the other 11 soldiers who were reprimanded.
34. Hero's
Greg ,   Sonora, California   (06.27.05)
Hero's are those who do what must be done, not done based on what is right for the country, not what is right for their own good. This man is a hero, and the survivors of this mess will remember him for that. He is not pro or con disengagement, he is anti-suicidal and anti-treason. A true hero is not for the flag but for the country, It takes a pure heart for a man to understand that a flag and a country represents the people of the country, not the leaders. After world war two, at the trials they hung the men who served the flag and not the country. "I was only following orders" does not sit well with God or man.
35. summer entertainment...
edward ,   las vegas   (06.27.05)
oh this disengagement thing is going to be a fantastic display on the largest stage for the worlds living soap opera known as israel... i cant wait to see these crybaby settlers finally get what has been coming to them, they are truly evil people who have no concern for their fellow countryman.
36. We support
Jimmy & Sandra Wrigh ,   Townville, SC USA   (06.27.05)
Your land was given to Abraham to Israel by Almighty God, not to the Muslim. Stand Firm and He will stand with you!
37. People should stay
Larry ,   USA   (06.27.05)
Land for peace has never worked and never will.
38. Hero
Bob Fischer ,   Tiberias, Israel   (06.27.05)
I hold the men of the IDF up as heros who refuse to expel fellow Jews from their homes. This is a sick policy that will surely fail if the government continues to pursue it.
39. Spoiled brat
(06.27.05)
Avi is a spoiled brat the generals that sent him to do what he had to do know better he should be punished.
40. Tha'\t's my boy
Lynn ,   USA   (06.27.05)
I am proud of him.I would like to see this broadcast on American TV!!
41. IDF tries 12 objectors
Marius Verster ,   South Africa   (06.27.05)
"A Jew doesn't evacuate a Jew." Thats the way to go!!!!! Well done
42. Evacuating Jews
Gary M. Sheinfeld ,   Port St. Lucie, FL   (06.27.05)
This idea of giving more area to the terrorist PA is insane. What you should be doing is killing the terrorists wholesale. Arabs are either at your throat or at your feet. There is no in between. If Israel want's peace with Arabs they must instill so much fear into them that they wouldn't dare attack in any manner, way, shape or form. I'm totally in agreement with those who refuse to tear down Jewish settlements. Gary. M. Sheinfeld
43. Jews evicting Jews
Ron Fink ,   Kingsport, TN USA   (06.27.05)
This is NOT right and we stand with Avi Beiber in his decision and his outrage. This is a travesty of justice. Even Moshe reacted with conscience when he saw an Egyptian taskmaster beating one of his countrymen. Why then should this or ANY IDF soldier not do the same.
44. disengagement
Rev V C Warren ,   USA   (06.27.05)
Praise God someone is standing up and being heard. This whole thing of moving Jews off their land and out of their homes is absurd and ridiculous to put it in the simplest of terms. What are we thinking here? How dare we go against what God has spoken?? I pray for protection for all who will stand on the Lord's side and for all you are caught up and deceived by the enemy.
45. Corporal Bieber
Robert Urban ,   Kearney, NE   (06.27.05)
A man's duty is to his king, but his soul (neshamah) is his own.
46. Disengagement
Anna M. Gerlitzki ,   Columbia PA USA   (06.27.05)
Simply put, I stand with the soldiers on this one. I do not agree with this disengagement. Jews don't evict jews and I wear an orange disengagement bracelet to let people know where I personally stand on this issue. I know you've probably heard this hundreds of times, but no land for peace. This will not change things. How much more can be given up for such a small country. The Palestinians will not rest. I feel it will get worse. With the orange bracelet I also wear a green one for support of the IDF.
47. IDF & pullout
Susie Kurzawa ,   USA   (06.27.05)
I strongly support the actions of Avi Bieber.
48. Settlement Evacuation
Stella Schlegel ,   Coal City IN, USA   (06.27.05)
I would like to tell the soldiers who refused to take part in the evacuation of Jewish settlers that I am very proud of them. I am not Jewish. I am a Christian in the USA and I stand strongly behind the Jewish people and Israel as their God given land. God will not be happy with anyone who aids in giving that land away.
49. Disengagement
Bob C. Ross ,   Plano, TX, USA   (06.27.05)
Anything and everything must be done by Israel to prevent the disengagment plans of Sharon and cronies. This is the first step to the destruction of Israel. It is unilateral withdrawal...the PLO are doing nothing and the Hamas lets us know openly what they will do after the withdrawal. It is suicide! It must be stopped. I am an Christian who deeply loves and supports Israel and have for over 45 years. Don't give an inch of God's Land to those who will never be satisfied till they get it all and Israel is destroyed. Don't take this step!!!
50. Kol Ha Kavod Avi
Stephanie Ferguson ,   CA, USA   (06.27.05)
Reading about Avi's actions in Neve Dekalim, I felt a strong sense of hope for this world. Jews don't force Jews off the Land. I'm not Jewish, but even I know this much. Would that the world had more people like Avi Beiber. Please let him know that multitudes stand with him.
51. Avi Beiber
Y Reid ,   Augusta Ga   (06.27.05)
I read the article regarding Avi Beiber and the other IDF soldiers who refused to come against the Jewish settlers. I congratulate them. I noticed one of the talkback remarkers called Avi a 'spoiled brat'. I also noticed that no name was given by this remarker. I wonder how this person would react if a military unit came to his/her community and ordered him/her and neighbors to vacate because others wanted their land and homes?
52. disengagement?????
Patty Barnett, USA-I ,   martinsville,va   (06.27.05)
"A Jew doesn't evucate a Jew"
53. Praise for Avi Bieber
Glenn Garner ,   Sequim, WA, USA   (06.27.05)
God is calling His people, the Jews, back to their land. They should not vacatge God's gift to His people and leave the land to non-Jews. Avi is leading in the right direction. May God be praised!
54. AVI BEIBER
DAVE AND JOANN BURNS ,   GARLAND, TX USA   (06.27.05)
WE APPRECIATE THE STAND AND THE COURAGE THIS YOUNG MAN HAS SHOWN. MAY G-D BLESS HIM FOR HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS.
55. Beiber has scruples, morals, & ethics.
Glenn Miller ,   Ashland, Oregon USA   (06.27.05)
Beiber did a good thing, is loyal to Zionism and shouldn't be condemned for it. On the other hand, the Prime Minister went against his word and did a traitorous act against those that voted him into office.
56. Soldier disobeying order
Shanda Donahue ,   Mount Ayr USA   (06.27.05)
Just want to say I fully support all the Soldiers that will not take part in the awful thing they are doing to their own people. God be with you.
57. Avi Beiber
Susan P. Jones ,   Richmond, VA, USA   (06.27.05)
I support his stand. It seems the leaders know settlement evacuation is wrong otherwise they would not have to lie to their own troops.
58. End of occupation
Ruben ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (06.27.05)
Government put settlers there - government takes settlers out. What is there not to understand. Pullout will happen regardless of settlers paranoya. As for our dear American jews- why dont u mind your own business and let Israelis deal with our own problems.
59. A Jew
(06.27.05)
Many people, probably Jews, on this board, keep saying - AJEW doesnt evacuate a Jew etc. etc.- Does this mean they treat Jews different then Arabs and Palestinians? and the Jew WILL occupy the Palestinians land and settle their homes and orchards ( beacuse they arent JEWS)- but they wont do it to Jews- because, well they are Jews. If NO ONE sees the RACISM here- I will throw up. I am so sick of Jews calling everyone a racist- when they LIVE racism against Palestinians and treat them like dogs..
60. Avi Beiber story
Shelley Harris ,   Hardin, Montana   (06.27.05)
As an American 'Messianic Israelite' believer, I am in total support of Mr. Beiber. It's an oximoron for an IDF soldier to evacuate his own people! I pray more soldiers would follow in his footsteps!
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