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Soldier guilty in Brit activist’s death
By Hanan Greenberg
Published: 27.06.05, 14:55
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1. You are Pathetic
akiva ,   chicago   (06.27.05)
2. How About That
Fadi ,   FL, USA   (06.27.05)
Finally, too bad this doesn't happen for the thousands of Palestinian civilians who were intentionally killed by the IDF.
3. Fadi
Caroline ,   London   (06.27.05)
I would rather say shame this doesn't happen to the 1000's of terrorists responsible for the deaths of innocent Israeli civilians. Or even the Palestinans 'convicted' and killed without a trial by the PA/gorups ruling the mess over there.In the lawless,terrorist ruled Palestinians Territories the concept of a trial is alien.
4. Sof sof; a bedouin scapegoat for Mofaz and his gang.
accessol ,   Spelthorne, England   (06.27.05)
The only reason that the racist IDF finally found this soldier guilty is that he is a Bedouin and thus makes a useful scapegoat for the high command that put him there do do just what he did.
5. only because hes an arab
edward ,   las vegas   (06.27.05)
thats the only reason there was even a trial. if this murderer was born with the right color skin he would be a free murderer just like so many other thousands of israel soldiers.
6. Oh oh
Fadi ,   FL, USA   (06.27.05)
Manslaughter? Boy was I fooled...
7. Caroline
west coast, USA   (06.27.05)
Wow, you surprise me- the OVERLY ARMED IDF(by US welfare, may I add), was shootting at little girls and boys- This man was risking his life to help them- children- caught in this barrage of bullets- A huge army firing at their home- (and the Palestinians are suppose to like the Israelis ) This British man is a hero- And I think its a step in the right direction that the Israeli military court convicted the IDF member. And the PALESTINIANS do have a court system- but much of the infrastructure in Gaza and the West Bank was and has been demolished by the Jews because they thought (they claim) that the structures were terrorists center etc.
8. Brit Activist
The Alef ,   glasgow/Jerusalem   (06.27.05)
Unfortunate! Don't people understand that if you enter into a "WAR ZONE" you've raised the stakes of being killed, by one side or the other. Israel should not let tourists into these area's. Israelies are not allowed in. Invite all the Arab media instead. The Alef
9. Just because he is from UK
Libyan Guy ,   Italy   (06.27.05)
Maybe if in his place was shot a JEW, we would be already sick from TV covrage stating an anti semitic shot by a foreigner. Israel, you can kill and kill and kill again, but its not good for your health, as your reputation is down tothe ground as much as your democracy and human rights record.
10. To all the IDF critics in the USA and its lapdog Britain
David ,   Karmiel   (06.27.05)
How dare you criticize when you have killed maimed and executed thousands of Iraqis? Iraq did not attack the USA or Britain in 2003. The arabs have killed and maimed over 20,000 Israelis, with a lot of help from various British and European Governments and what about the thousands killed in the name of the Brotish Empire in Africa and India? You holier than thou bigots should remember the words of the wise man - let he who hath not sinned cast the first stone. Thre IDF may not be perfect but it is protecting Israel from the likes of Fadi, accessol and edward and the other anti-Semitic bigots who probably think that Hitler was right and who would love to see thir Arab friends destro Israel.
11. those activists are the accomplices of terrorism
Ishai ,   Israel   (06.27.05)
I regret the decision of the military court. Those foreigns activists help the palestinians terrorists so it is normal when they are treated like them
12. West Coast
Caroline   (06.27.05)
You must be kidding me. The reason children are caught up is because the terrorists hide amongst them-well known fact.trying to portray Israelis as child killing murders is not only bad propaganda its plain stupid. He is not a hero.I am sorry for his death but he is not a hero. heros are those trying to protect their country from ruthless terrorist attacks and Arab army's. As for the court system-you may want to explain that to those killed by the mass ex-judicial killing. a fancy term for lawnlessness
13. Lybian guy
Caroline ,   London   (06.27.05)
coming from Libya I wouldn't worry about Israel's reputation too much.
14. scapegoat?
Jared ,   Toronto, Canada   (06.27.05)
All the comments here thus far are comical at best! You complain because he the ISM volunteer was shot (justifiable!) and then you complain that the person responsible is not Jewish (racist thinking)! People, that kind of thinking is racist indeed! Accessol claims the IDF is racist: a racist IDF would not allow a Muslim Bedoin man to serve in it's ranks! A racist IDF would not allow Druze to serve, or Christians, or gays or lesbians or anyone other than Jews! DON'T BE STUPID!!! Palestinian TV and extremist religious leaders incite racist NAZI propaganda against Jews! The people responsible for the Tel Aviv bombing were all released and with no charges formally brought against as some ad hoc administrative council deemed not enough evidence! Still no one has been brought to justice over this crime against humanity!!!!!!
15. escapegoat!
Me   (06.27.05)
This is merely the tip of the iceberg. Israeli soldiers have killed very many by their trigger happy shootings. Luckily for hundal he has the British government to somehow get some justice for him, many others can for now only hope that one day all the Israeli terrorists and their war criminal leaders will be brought to justice.
16. And what about Rachel Corrie?
accessol ,   Spelthorne, England   (06.27.05)
The difference is that Rachel Corrie was American and unlike the British who complained vociferously to Israel about the murder of Tom Hurndall, the US Government didn't say one word about her murder. She was run over in broad daylight by an unrepentant (and unpunished) IDF driver in a US made bulldozer of the make that also sells trainers and tee shirts. Rachel was trying to protect a Palestinian home from destruction in the Gaza strip and had more guts in her little finger than all the 'heroic' settlers in the occupied territories all multiplied together. However, unlike the settlers, whose names will soon be lost in oblivion, the name of Rachel Corrie will live and be remembered and honoured leolam voed.
17. the real difference between Rachel Corrie & Thomas Hundrall
(06.27.05)
Isn't that Rachel was American and Thomas was British. No the real difference is that Rachel was killed as a result of the actions of a Jewish soldier of the IDF and Thomas was killed as a result of the actions of a Druze or Bedouin soldier of the IDF (I make this determination based upon the soldier's name) There is an issue of very sophisticated and insidious discrimination at work here.
18. JUSTICE????
HANIMO ,   JORDAN   (06.27.05)
now that justice is served !!!! lets pray that his sole will rest in peace......God bless him,,,,
19. And the # 1 RANK is
Nablus1   (06.27.05)
You forgot the grand prize of all ranks my friend #1 Rank. Israel is rank #1 in racism,
20. Stop using islamic jihad for jurors and this won't happen.
Bunnie Meyer ,   Santa Monica, CA USA   (06.27.05)
And bless Rachael Corrie for taking herself out of the gene pool by hiding where the bulldozer couldn't see her. This is not a person who should have become pregnant and passed on her stupidity to innocent children.
21. BUN NIE
(06.28.05)
Are you jewish? how dare you diss an American girl getting murdered by the IDF? what you dont care because she was a goy? a gentile, not a 'jew' ?? you are one racist bigotted lady . Why, why are jews so racist???
22. Difficult enough as it is without the Hundalls of this world
(06.28.05)
I did my national service in Tzefa, Tsanhanim. Do any of you people who have commented so far actually know what being in a confined space with little room to move while at the same time still having to kill or capture a terrorist and protect your teammates actually entails? I bet you have no idea. Let me tell you, its extremely difficult. We had numerous situations where kids as young as 10 were armed with small pistols, and in one instance had a suicidebelt with dynamite and a detonator attached. This soldier shot the wrong individual. He's guilty and he will face appropriate punishment as have soldiers in the US and British armed forces. That does not give any of you who have commented so far the right to blanket blame the entire IDF as if it was some sort of policy to shoot non-combatants intentionally. We do our best. Sometimes we make mistakes, as have the Americans and the British in their own conflicts. I'd say 99% of the time we get it right. That doesnt mean that fatal mistakes dont occur. But, the IDF, and we as officers, always hold our soldiers and fellow officers accountable for their actions. Aharei haTsanhanim Shalom
23. Get a life people...the real reason he died...
The Truth ,   Israel   (06.28.05)
Why is nobody telling the real reason he died. He died of the flu in a British hospital. THe hospital is responisble for his death, not the IDF. Engalnds hospitals are known for people dying there due to viruses.
24. #21
michael ,   austin, tx, usa   (06.28.05)
... what you dont care because she was a goy? a gentile, not a 'jew' ??..." I'm not following your twisted "logic". With your justification I'm not permitted to hate a nazi, because that would be racism, since nazis are gentile. You hate people merely for being jewish, regardless of where they live....but jews aren't permitted to hate their enemies??? Let's see you practice what you preach you hypocrite.
25. IGNORANT CAROLINE - LONDON
Libyan Guy ,   Italy   (06.28.05)
Remember that your country supported US attacks in 1986 by allowing jets tobombard Tripoli and Benghazi, killing 43 civilians and 0 military. Remember that over Lokerbie, you had the PANAM terror bombing. At the end your country shows how cheap is the blood of UK citiziens by allowing Ghedaffi to transfor from MADDOG to WISE MAN friend of UK and US governments. This is like spiting in the same plate from which you eat. that is your ENGLISH standard ... so shut up !!!
26. # 24 austin-
(06.28.05)
well you obviously hate gentiles? or think jews are special,-- better. no? be honest. you think jews are gods chosen? no? the jews have the god given right to kill natvies for land?/ no? well not everyone likes the jew version of god, why should we? why not like buddhist, hindu etc.??? why like a god that would have you think jews are god chosen? why? its racist. --its like the nazi aryan movement-. superior to others-- and then , watching the zionist movement go back and apartheid a country because some people are ARABS- and they are second CLASS>no, you are the hypocrite and racist. BUNNIE on this board just DISSEd an AMERICAN GIRL that believed in defending the defenseless - Rachel is someones CHILD- Imagine being her family and hearing an IDF membered murdered her with a bulldozer? have you seen the videos/ she is wearing flouresecent orange vest and she is using a bullhorn- this guy saw her- and, if he didnt WHY THE HECK IS A BULLDOZER SO limited in vison, they should be illegal on this point alone, either way.... bless the Rachels of the world-
27. rachel
michael ,   austin, tx, usa   (06.28.05)
I have little sympathy for someone who jumps in front of a moving vehicle. That's stupid...not heroic.
28. Ridiculous comments
Oxford, UK   (06.30.05)
To "accessol", exactly how many British soldiers have been convicted for shooting 13 unarmed civilians in Northern Ireland on "Bloody Sunday"? That's right, none. I think the phrase includes the words "stones" and "glasshouses". Some of the comments here are outrageously crass and anti-Semitic. What idiot said "Jews are racist" thereby showing him/herself to be exactly that by judging an entire group of people?! Grow up! And talking of racism, you may like to see some broadcasts by Palestinian State television, where Jewish people have been described as "apes and monkeys", or that one is blessed for acts of murder, as long as the victim is a Jew. Not exactly enlightened is it?
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