Bravo to you, your words are music to my ears. Sure,everytime something goes wrong in the world, we Jews are blamed. We have gotten used to that. Alas, we shall overcome.

Jerusalem was NEVER the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Jerusalem is mentioned over 800 times in the Bible, not once in the Koran. Around 1948, Arabs VIOLENTLY ETHNICALLY CLEANSED ABOUT ONE MILLION JEWS from Arab countries. Arab governments seized the land, homes, bank accounts, businesses and assets of the Jews. Most of the Jewish refugees fled to Israel. THERE MUST NOW BE A JUST SETTLEMENT FOR THE JEWISH REFUGEES AND THEIR DESCENDANTS - COMPENSATION IN LAND AND FINANCIALLY. In 1948, Egypt invaded Gaza and ethnically cleansed ALL Jews. In 1948, Jordan invaded Judea-Samaria (West Bank) and east Jerusalem and ETHNICALLY CLEANSED ALL JEWS. Jordan, opposing Israel's G0D-Creator of the universe, DESTROYED 58 synagogues in Jerusalem. In 1967, when Israel won Islam's religious war of aggression against it, Jews returned to the areas of their homeland they had been ethnically cleansed from for 19 years. Islamofascists DECEITFULLY call this return "occupation" The Jews must have returned to them immediately ALL of their Jewish land, homes, properties and businesses stolen from them in the Islamic invasion in 1948. Under international law, territories are considered "occupied" only when taken in an act of aggression which does not apply to Israel. Judea, Samaria and Gaza are not 'occupied territories' because they were not taken from any foreign sovereign. In 1922, Arabs were given most of Palestine-80%. The area became Jordan, giving the Arabs their Arab Palestinian state. IT WAS ETHNICALLY CLEANSED OF JEWS! This area is part of ancient Biblical Israel and along with present-day Israel, including Judea, Samaria, Gaza and the Golan was recognized by the League of Nations as the Jewish homeland. In Islam ALL NON-MUSLIM countries are regarded as the house of war to be conquered for Islam. The Islamist goal of the conquest and destruction of all Israel is no secret. The Road Map Islamic terror state will reduce TINY, over-crowded Israel to a 9 mile wide border at its middle - A TOTALLY INDEFENSIBLE ISRAEL. They call this method of killing Jews the peace process. Hitler called it the final solution.

are you joking ? who promissed to give this land to the Jews ? you want me read your websites which all came from Jewish sites .... forget it ... , none arabs serving in arab government ??? is there is none Israelis serving in the Israeli government ? is this not an ignorant question ? 70% owned by the British ??? did the British bought it or occupied it ? sudenly when the world starting realising the truth you started to become more wild , you will have a very hard time if you don't axept the reality ... it's up to you now ... the stolen rights back or more hard time ... and i think your PM became much wiser than before and he knows what he has to do .... Shalom brother

Let's get one thing clear. Jordan is a palestinian State 75% of palestinan not Israel. When is Sharon going to speak abot Blair's statements instead of playing softball

He will probably claim he was misquoted out of context, as did Sharon when he spoke of the evils of the Occupation, but for one small moment in time, Blair is right; until there is justice in the Middle East, and Israel clears out of the Occuipied Territories and goes back to its mini-state status, which is more in keeping with its real stature and value to mankind, there will be no peace in the world. Three cheers for Tony: hip hip hooray, Hip Hip Hooray, HIP HIP HOORAY!

"are you joking ?" Look whose talking "who promissed to give this land to the Jews ?" An international mandate in the League of nations. The British who controlled and essence owned the territory. And even the arab ruler Feisal who tried to promote Jewish immigration. "you want me read your websites which all came from Jewish sites" In comment #30 the first link is from a pro-palestinian site, which simply is showing a first hand document. The other links simply show arabs who have been Members of the knesset. " .... forget it ... , none arabs serving in arab government ???" I don't get you, but my question was and still is, if Israel is such a racists place, why are their so many arabs in the gov't influencing the lives of all Israeli's? And if other arab countries are so tolerant why do they only have arabs in control of the gov't and refuse to allow any minority even come close to power? "is there is none Israelis serving in the Israeli government ? is this not an ignorant question ?" I still don't get what you mean. Everyone serving in the Israeli gov't is Israeli. But they come from all walks of life and every segment is represented. Please telll me where I can find this in an arab country? "70% owned by the British ??? did the British bought it or occupied it ?" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947_UN_Partition_Plan "They criticised the amount and quality of land given to Israel. The Jews had been offered 55% percent of the land when they owned 6.5% of it. However, it should be noted that over 70% of the land area (which was mostly desert) was state-owned." Technically the land was 'no mans land'. Or it simply had no owner. The mandate was fairly barren and underpopulated. It basically belonged to no one, much like how barren deserts in arizona during the time of settlement of north america didn't belong to anyone. However since the British were the administrators they in essence owned it. Even though originally it was promised to the Jews. While the arabs have this "I deserve" attitude, you don't own something unless 1. you stake it or 2. Make a claim. The arab could have easily claimed territories during the time of the ottomans with the taboon. THey didn't. "sudenly when the world starting realising the truth " If only, atleast more people are coming to realise the propaganda of the 'palestinians'. http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/nytimes/104360741.html?did=104360741&FMT=ABS&FMTS=AI&date=Nov+1%2C+1947&author=&desc=PALESTINIAN+COUPLE+ENROLLS+AT+FORDHAM "you started to become more wild , you will have a very hard time if you don't axept the reality" No the arabs are starting to get worried and trying to cover their tracks. " ... it's up to you now ... the stolen rights back or more hard time ... " Well then you better start leaving the arab occupied Jewish land. "and i think your PM became much wiser than before and he knows what he has to do" Maybe (if he's got a plan) or maybe not. ".... Shalom brother" Ok

I know why You got nothing

Israel existed thousands of years ago before any Arabs immigrated to the area. Israel was re-named "Palestine" by the Romans so it's not even an Arab name. Jews were the first to be called "Palestinians" and are the rightful owners of the land of Israel, Judea and Samaria. ARABS ARE OCCUPYING JEWISH LAND! http://www.sullivan-county.com/id3/palestine.html

I think that those referring to the "Occupied West Bank and Gaza" as the "Stolen Land" have had a bit too much hashish in their hookahs! Indeed, the land was occupied in 1967 due to the constant attacks on Israelis by Arab terriorists who have to date butchered over 20.000 Israelis of ALL creeds and ages and maimed and injured countless others. Every bit of the suffering of the poor miserable Palestinians has been brought upon by themselves and by their leaders who have stolen and wasted all the money that they have received as aid. Maybe you should ask Suha Arrafat how she making ends meet today. As far as "Stolen Land" is concerned, let's start with the USA, land stolen from the American Indians, Canada the same, but there they are called the First Nation. Northern Ireland was "stolen" by the British as was a great deal of Africa with the the French, the Portugese, the Germans and let's not forget the Belgians joining the party. India. Burma and Malaya were also part of the British Raj. When the Colonial Powers were thrown out of the Occupied 3rd World, they let it in rack and ruin' ravaged by disease and poverty.Then we get to Austrialia and New Zealand. Those lands belong to the Aborignes and the Moaris! Then there is the Russian Chechnia situation. All the above we not occupied by the various powers because they were under attack. Most of them were taken due to the enormous wealth they brought to their new masters. Israel occupied to survive and has not benefitted at all from those lands. In fact, all that Israel has got from its "Occupation" is death, injury and a hell of a lot of trouble and wasted money. Israel should get out of Palestinian cesspit so that we can close the door on that terrorist nation once and for all. We must not employ the killers of our people but let them stew in thir own mess!

we have to get away from this illusion that poverty is the cause Terrorists never needed an excuse to target innocent people Religious justification for their actions is what is really dangerous. This is the real problem You cant argue with them then. They have religious justification for what they are doing. I dont think thats good for muslims who want nothing to do with these murdering dogs, because it tarnishes their religion Find them, hunt them down, and kill them. Its the only way.

Those arabs who claim to be "palestinians" and live in the "occupied territories" are utter hypocrites, liars , land robbers or unable to read their own "Constitution". Check article 24: This Organization does not exercise any TERRITORIAL SOVEREIGNITY over the WEST BANK in the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, on the GAZA STRIP or in the HIMMAH area. Its activities will be on the national popular level in the liberational,organizational, political and financial fields. http://www.palestine-un.org/plo/pna_two.html You wrote that yourselves.You are a non-State, non-people, non-entity by any standard. Just arab inmigrants. Return to your countries and the conflict will end.

Arab/Muslim Culture and Violence The problem is with their cultural narrative. It is quite simply backwards and stuck in the middle ages, dreaming of what once was. They still seem only to know mindless violence. Violence against Christians, Jews, Hindus, Budhists, animists, other Muslims (Sunni vs Shia, religious vs secular, family vs family, clan vs clan, tribe vs tribe, nation vs nation), etc. Various conflicts and terror attacks in the Middle East, Africa, Indian Subcontinent, Central Asia, SE Asia, Eastern Europe, Western Europe, North America, Latin America, etc. (Do I need to list out all of the individual countries?) Violence against their own families, clans and women in general. Slaughtering their own daughters, sisters, etc for reasons of honor. Ordering of gang rape for reasons of honor. Jailing of their wives for reasons of honor, etc. Refusal to acknowlede rape unless there are four witnesses and then jailing the victim for adultery. Stoning of homosexuals and adulterers. Forced female genital mutilation. Vendettas lasting decades, etc. Beheadings, defiling of bodies, suicide bombing and other various orgies of violence. Women, children, elderly, invalids, mentally impaired (victims and perpetrators). Hospitals, schools, houses of worship...is nothing sacred? What is wrong with these people? Is it a feeling of impotence that drives them to commit these acts? Is it the sexual repression (which is why women need to coverup)? The Arab/Muslim world needs to be a bit more honest and introspective and stop looking to blame everyone and everything else, but themselves, for their problems. The Arab and Muslim world only need buy itself a mirror and take a good long clear look into themselves, their cultures and their societies. The truth shall set them free...

(another repeat, but still valid) To: Arabs/Muslims (and their apoligists) You're all in denial. No...not all are terrorists, no one is saying that! Yes, there are Christians, Jews, Hindus, etc who are involved in conflicts and have committed terror attacks. What is being said is that most of the conflicts in the world and most of the terror attacks are committed by people who are Arabs/Muslims and they themselves invoke Islam (they believe you are misinterpreting the Quoran!). I'm sorry if you find this to be hurtful, but it is the reality, deal with it! Denying it helps no one. Rather than post on this site, you would be better off posting on sites which cater to the Arab/Muslim world. Maybe you could help to persuade them to be introspective and take responsibility as opposed to making excuses and blaming everyone and everything else for all the ills in your world and/or communities; enough with all the fantasy conspiracy theories. Listen too yourselves... This violence is directed towards people of all different faiths (not just Christians and Jews, but Hindus, Buddists, Animists, etc). It occurs on almost all continents in the world. I live in Southeast Asia and am well aware of the violence just in my region alone (Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand, Singapore, etc). In addition you should also deal with all of the "internal" violence, especially that which is directed toward women, often in the name of "honor". I won't even get into Muslim vs Muslim violence. Deal with it, deal with it, deal with it!!!

You're occupying Shechem and calling it Nablus and dreaming about Falasteen on the pages of a Jewish web site. You're a looser. Even if there were such a thing as Arab "Palestine", you wouldn't get it. You know why? Because the Bible says that G-d gave it to the Jews. Tough luck mate, but with time you'll get over it: Don't blow yourself up just now.

Racist people like you should be locked up in a zoo. How can you describe a whole race with such ugly words. I cannot equate us jews with people full of hatred and racsm like you. Time will take care of people like you I hope.

Palestinians have been maintained as eternal refugees in Arab nations. Even when they are offered housing facilities after the 'disengagement' they prefer to be on 'refugee status'. Why blame the Israelis for this? After 2000 years of Diaspora, the Israelis have returned to their homeland that was nothing but a wilderness and desert, that they cleared and cultivated to make it bloom. And now the lazy 'Palestinians' who want to live on handouts from the European nations and the US want to claim the land rights in Israel?

Sal Azam is not fit to occupy any place in the US with such rants. Go and occupy one of your hell holes in Arabia.

I can't believe what Tony said. I simply can't believe it. His major city is bombed, people are killed and maimed, and he speaks in public about our need to understand why the bombers did what they did? Does he not understand that the motive of these terrorists is irrelevant? His job is to quickly apprehend the killers and see to it that his country is protected. What a gross misjudgement for him to make a speech advocating the need to address the "Middle East conflict." It's not a revelation that terrorists have grievances. Grievances -- from whatever their source -- are discussed every day. (even right here in this forum.) Some problems in the world actually get solved. But the Prime Minister of Great Britain has no business linking terrorist bombings of a bus and three trains to the grievance of the killers (even if he thinks he knows what their grievances are). His misjudment renders him unfit to hold his office. The British Parliament should immediately express its lack of confidence in him. The country should hold new elections.

yuo donte understendt israeli is no good for faleshtina, for alla is for paleshtina. Blair good understent vot he said for you Zionist. Alla acbar!

Oh yes... poverty and lack of democracy caused them to blow up and murder... and the peace process too... The terrorists just wanted something to eat, a little democracy, and a peace with Israel... that's all they wanted right ?!?

The main aim of the radical muslims is to impose their way of living all over the world by utilizing terror attacks and it has nothing to do with the Israeli Palestinian conflict. Just to remind people who tend to forget. The first attempt to blow up the twin towers in New York, took place in 1993 when the relations between the Israelis and Palestinians were very good and the general atmosphere was that the Israeli Palestinian problem is going to be solved and yet the radical muslims perpetrated the terror attack. So were is the connection to Israel ?

In fact there is no excuse for terrorism of any kind or for any reason. Blair, well he is notdifferent from many before him. Something like the bombings happens so you look for a reason. When that reason is called the Arabs who must be sucked up to at any cost, then another scapegoat must be found - the Jews must be to blame! These are the facts of life and Blair's attitude is in line with many, including his wife who some years ago blamed Israel for all the ills in world.

with which rights the British promissed you to give you this land ? who don't have don't have the right to give .... the Arabs in your governments are Israelis not forigners and they are only members in the Kenest not in the Government , in Egypt there is alot of Christians in the parlman and in each government there is at least tow or three Christians .... when Egypt wanted to elect one of it's men to go to the UN race election they chosen mr. Butros Ghali and he became the UN secratry and he is Christian .... don't try to fake the truth which is saying that the British wanted to get rid of the Jews on the account of the arabs ... there is no other way now tow indepence states has to be according to the UN resoluation 242 and Israel hast to go back to the borders before the 5th of May 1967 ... no ther was ... any more bla bla in such case is wasting of time , money and maybe lifes .... take it or leave it .... shalom brother

If the radicals Muslims they hate all none Muslims so the radicals Jews are not better and even most of the Jews they hate all what's not Jew .... calm baby ... you are not better you hate everything around and if you don't find what to hate you will hate your self

"with which rights the British promissed you to give you this land ? who don't have don't have the right to give .... " With the same rights that they used to create Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and I think Iraq and Kuwait. By accepting these nations the arabs accepted British control over the territory. "the Arabs in your governments are Israelis not forigners and they are only members in the Kenest not in the Government " Considering that the Knesset is the gov't. But it seems that you are ignoring how Pines-Paz has recently chosen an Arab for important position in the gov't. "in Egypt there is alot of Christians in the parlman and in each government there is at least tow or three Christians .... " Out of a population of how many? And how much do the Christians in Egypt represent of Egypts population. "when Egypt wanted to elect one of it's men to go to the UN race election they chosen mr. Butros Ghali and he became the UN secratry and he is Christian .... " I don't believe that your home country has any inluence on how a Secretary general is chosen. I think he simply chosen by the general assembly, not sent out by his home country. So this example is null and viod. "don't try to fake the truth which is saying that the British wanted to get rid of the Jews on the account of the arabs ... " Considering that the White paper was only put out after the arab riots it's fairly obvious that that was the reason. "UN resoluation 242 and Israel hast to go back to the borders before the 5th of May 1967" Actually no, Israel does not have to go back to those borders. This is what it says "Withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict;" It does not say ALL territories. Also directly under that "Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgement of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force;" Israel's withdrawal is not required until the second clause is put into place. If you really want a full examination of the legality of the territory here it is. http://www.globalpolitician.com/articledes.asp?ID=665&cid=2&sid=1 But the fact is that resolution 242 makes it explicit that the arabs have responsibilities, which they have purposely and blatantly disregarded. Therefore the resolution can also be considered null and viod by arab action. Until these requirements of non-belligenrcy are fulfilled Israel's cannot be requested to even do any of these things. And finally you have yet to respond comment # 24.

I read everyones reply. It is amazing how much hate their is between us. We say Arab and Jew grouping one side to point blame on, curse, and attack. We Palestinians and Israelis are both wrong, we are both contributing to the problem. Each of us beleives he is self righitous and holier than god. It is not important what god promised to the Israelis or what allah will do for the Palestinians. We need to stop what we are doing to each other and move on with life. I am confident that all persons involved in this talkback forum are educated, well traveled and some are raising families. The hate expressed in the responses, just shows that blind hate is no longer a monoply of the uneducated. Let us look within and search for our souls we are all empty it seems and stripped from humanity. Let us listen to each not talk and at each other in this forum. May God help us all

you are saying the whole time .. i don't think .. i don't think ... it means you are not sure of any thing .... the Parleman in egypt is like your Kenest and the Government is the Presedint , PM , and Ministers ... can you tell me how many Arab ministers in your Government .... not one .... but in Egypt in each Government there is at leat 2-3 Christian ministers ... the Christians in Egypt are not more than 7% from the pupolation in Egypt and when there 2-3 Ministers from 15 ministers are Christians it means more than 15% ... what you think about this ? ... the Saudis , Kewaities and all the others ... who they are occuping now ? why the British didn't give you land in the desert like the saudis ? because the Jews had their eyes on this land from before and it was not important for them on which deid bodies they will walk to get this land .... about the story of Butos Ghali ... you say .. you don't belive .... i don't care in what you belive and what's not ... i am telling you the truth i know and it'y up to you to blive it or not .... about the UN reoluation 242 ... read first before you discusse it .... the reponsibilities of the Arabs about this reoluation they have confirmed it tow years ago and announced it after the top Arabs confrence but Israel didn't react and didn't respond ... the Arabs put the ball in your field but you didn't axept it ....about to answer no. 24 ... first i don't belive what he said because at least the facts which i know that there is no conflict between Egypt and Sudan and Lybia and this prove to me that he laing ... the ties between Egypt ans sudan is stronger than any body can imagin ... if sometimes happend someproblems between the tow geovernments it does not stay longer than monthes .... Egypt and Lybia ??? about what they have conflict ... please inform me because i don't know ....gg ... there is a difrent between tow naigbors fighting for a land between them and people came from faraway to occupay another people .... the conflict in Morroco and alegeria is between people they live there from before but where did you live before 1948 ? they colected you from around the world to get rid of you and put you there ... each one of you had a land and nationality from before why you moved to Palistin ? why you didn't stay each in his country ? ... because this was the aim of the zionist even if it has to be on the died bodies of the Arabs ..... you used all the ways ... crying , blackmailig , fightig , pushing countries against eachother , conspiracies to get this aim ... the dream which is the big Israel fron the Nile to El Furat and the zionists convienced the Jews around the world that it will happen .... but not all the dreams comes true ... now it's the time for the reality no dreams any more ... and again .... tow states .... 1967 borders ... peace with all the Arabs .... normalising between all the Arabs and Israel .... the world will not axept anything els ... this is the whole story and i think i have nothing els to say ... gg .... even when you didn't right to me shalom in the end of your post ... but i will .... Shalom brother .... and take it easy

"you are saying the whole time .. i don't think .. i don't think ... it means you are not sure of any thing ...." Actually I know without a doubt that SA and Jordan were british created. Im just not sure of Iraq and Kuwait (but I'm very confident). Also I do not see how your nationality or whether your home country could decide whether or not you can become secretary general. But considering this is your strongest arguement you have presented yet... "the Parleman in egypt is like your Kenest and the Government is the Presedint , PM , and Ministers ..." LOL, uh yea, except in Israel we actually have elections, and Egypt the canindates are pre-selected. "can you tell me how many Arab ministers in your Government .... not one .... but in Egypt in each Government there is at leat 2-3 Christian ministers ... " Let me get this straight you want me to do something that you haven't even done. And that would mean you'd have to look at the Jew sites! yea, keep it up there sparky. "the Christians in Egypt are not more than 7% from the pupolation in Egypt and when there 2-3 Ministers from 15 ministers are Christians it means more than 15% ... what you think about this ?" Considering that these are puppets and chosen on the basis of loyalty these positions means nothing I'm very unimpressed. " why the British didn't give you land in the desert like the saudis ?" Cause it was, until the Jews cultivated it and made it bloom. "because the Jews had their eyes on this land from before " Thanks for pointing out the obvious "and it was not important for them on which deid bodies they will walk to get this land .... " Ya, considering that this was statement of Secretary-General of the Arab League Azzam Pasha “The Arabs intend to conduct a war of extermination and momentous massacre which will be spoken of like the Mongolian massacres and the Crusades.” Yep, so peaceful. "about the story of Butos Ghali ... you say .. you don't belive .... i don't care in what you belive and what's not ... i am telling you the truth i know and it'y up to you to blive it or not .... " Oki Doki! Besides the fact that it would go completely agaisnt the ideals of the UN to have a secretary general chosen by a single nation. "about the UN reoluation 242 ... read first before you discusse it ...." I did, it seems you haven't. "the reponsibilities of the Arabs about this reoluation they have confirmed it tow years ago and announced it after the top Arabs confrence but Israel didn't react and didn't respond ..." No the arabs did no such thing. They completely switched the resolution around. The resolution clearly states all states of belligerency must be ended. The arab conference says Israel must give up all territory (which the UN resolution states Israel does not have to do) and then they will have diplomatic relations with Israel. This is not the same as ending all states of belligerency are respecting and aknowleging Israels soveiregnty. It's just sending some diplomats. Thats it. "the Arabs put the ball in your field but you didn't axept it ...." If you mean making all the demands and expecting to give nothing in return, then yes the arab conference did indeed do that.