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War on Gaza’s streets
By Ali Waked
Published: 15.07.05, 11:31
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1. More power to Mr Abbas and Mr Dahlan
Peter Bosch ,   Germany   (07.15.05)
This is their opportunity to assert their position as the only legimate government of upcoming Palestine. If they don't do it now the whole area will sink into feudal battles civil war. There is serious danger that Gaza will fall into the hands of Hamas and become an Islamic country. The world is watching Mr Abbas, take the opportunity.
2. Internal fighting, Gaza
Hiram ,   Tel Aviv   (07.15.05)
This morning's latet\st information on Ynet providing details on the clash between PA forces and the Hamas simply confirm the tendancy to which I was refering yesterday : that of internal fighting inside the territories. We are seing here the beginning of yet an other " fraction" war, and again a confirmation that arab unity can never be a threat anymore. Hamas WANTS the power by FORCE., So does Islamic Jihad. They are not into politics, they are simply attempting a Putsch.... History has been proven to work in cycles. There are only a limited quantity of scenarii available to the combattants. and as I mentioned yesterday on this post, this one was predictible. Although Abou Abbas is in a difficult position which I certainly do not envy, He is the key to PA continuing to receive enough moneys to sustain the civilian people. I believe he will stay in place, receive more sophisticated order maintaining equipment ( Possibly from Europe before receivingit from the US ).Hamas was , is and always will be at terrorist organisation. They do not really care for religious fighting, they are men of power. Power struggles are a constant of emerging nations, such as the various " underpriviledged" states of Africa. I do not make any differences between Arab wanting to ill Jews and ethic cleansing in ex Jugoslavia,or Rwanda. The best course for Israel at this time in my opinion is to continue specialized strikes faster than the arm building cycle in Gaza. For those of you who may believe that terrorists are not smart, you are dreadfully mistaking: They are...and you have seen the results...even if that smartness takes its roots in vile antisemitisme and jealousy in front of the economic successes or Israel. It is up the the Palestinian people to clean up their land, get rid of those who are stopping the peace process.That is a task which Israel should not have to do for them. Should they decide that they want peace, it is up to them to act in that sense. If they accept tyranny and the misery going with it, so be it.
3. One more reason for disengagement
daniel ,   Amsterdam   (07.15.05)
Go on, do eveybody a favour and kill each other so that only moderates will be left and then we can make peace.
4. to #3
Henry ,   Globe   (07.15.05)
You are actualy representing the mintility of Jews and to which extent they like the bloodshed. But if you think that will happend, you are mistaken. !
5. Ghaza war
ayman ,   Nablus,Palestine   (07.15.05)
i am very surprized because our PA have armor vehicles. it was recomonded that these vehicle be used to protect the palestinian people from the israeli continuosly invasions to Ghaza and killing palestainan insted of using it against us .
6. Pakistan,Iraq,Gaza
Marcel ,   Florida   (07.15.05)
We are seeing the heart and soul of Islam bearing their only fruit. The bomb each others mosques in Iraq and Pakistan and they kill each other with gusto and zeal including their women and children. They reap what they have sown in Gaza against non-moslem in Israel. Looks like the reaping has begun .
7. Gaza clashes are a must
Hamdy ,   Germany   (07.15.05)
It was very important for the benefit of the palestinian people to see who is paying blood and efforts to help and free them from the israili occupation, and who is only working on them as being a financial project to them. Hamas, although I am not radical at all, but she is the cleanest palestinian party, their hands are clean and they are hard workers. on the opposite, the PA officials and politicians are kind of gang members, pirates on land, theives, and drakolas. I urge the palestinians to stand beside Hamas not with the PA.
8. Occupation is the reason !!
Ali ,   Gaza   (07.15.05)
If there is no occupation then there is no need for resistance (you call it terrorism!)..it is not fair or even logic to see Israelis kill people in Nablus and Tulkarem and when a palestinan faction retaliate then the PA come to shot them ?!..this is political suicide for the Authority !!people are asking :where is the authority after each Israeli attack?..where is the Authority when Israeli troops stop the palestinians at the check points ??...it is shame when the Isaeli jets bombed us last night and in the same time palestinian tankers shoot in the ground !!! you pull out from Gaza and west bank ,then you give the chance for the Authority to control the situation and then judge !! we are not happy to enter into tribes war with Israel..but you should give the chance !!!
9. Gaza shoul be disinfected from HAMAS
Rani ,   Gaza   (07.15.05)
HAMAS has destroyed the peace process on other hand , they have made palestinian life so difficult like the hell. So ,,, it is the time for ABBAS to take a decision to stop that terror and kill that busters or put them in jail they really destroyed all of the Middle East area I am palestinian , but I really hate that busters which called "HAMAS" The terror is horrible thing , it is the time of PEACE JUST PEACE thnx
10. wallat
abas ,   palestine   (07.15.05)
it is good news that we fight against each other , cause we have 2 authourities, one hamas one fatah ,we always fight each other cause we have no democracy and hamas is acting from a power piont of view cause they have weapons, and our authority is courapted, and normal people are lost. evry party working for its own interest only . Im wondering why is hamas doing that now , after israel says it will leave gaza, this is noncance what they r doing
11. Rani, Thank you.
cliff from montreal ,   Canada   (07.15.05)
Rani, Thank you.
12. thugs killing thugs
a gentile ,   usa   (07.15.05)
live by the sword, die by the sword. PA and Hamas are all nothing but gangs and punch of theifs, killers, black mailers, that do not deserve a state or even life for that matter. Israel, open the east borders and escort them all to the east desert, where they can kill each other. Israel should never relinqiush one inch of the land of Israel to any one, never.
13. Completion
Eyal ,   TLV, Israel   (07.15.05)
They behave like this in every other arab country, why do you think these nations are run by dictators with an iron hand? Finish the disengagement. Complete the wall and let the murderous Palestinian nature take its course. Really. It's not our problem. Never was.
14. War on Gaza streets
Rob Walker ,   Toronto, Canada   (07.15.05)
I am a Christian with a keen sense on world affairs for it is biblically prophecised that there will be wars and rumors of wars. Where is the loving spirituallity within the tribes under the Allah of Islam? Where is the loving spirituallity of the tribes under the Biblical God, his son Jesus and the Holy Ghost? At home I am surrounded by friends and family who have turned their back on Jesus. They walk as empty souls with despair in their daily lives. We as a Christian nation are deelply wounded but unable to turn to the loving light of Jesus Christ . We will pay deeply for our sins in due time if we don't turn back to Jesus and his ways. I have surrendered myself competely to Jesus and witness personally in his just rewards everyday spiritually, in health,brotherhood and prosperity. We are all brothers and sisters under our great prophet Abraham. The signs are in the wind, listen for them. Gods cup of wrath has just about filled to overflowing with his childrens sin and the Biblical prophecy of Jesus return is near. When he comes as a theif in the night, at the last trump, he will be the final authority and beat all mens swords into plowshares. Men of power and sin will be no more. The world is living in a sea of compromise, sin and treachery. Come out of Mystery Babylon and live by the true light of Jesus or suffer his consequences! I do businees with many Muslim friends in the Middle East and I can hear their militant frustration, but someday soon we will all be loving brothers and sisters again without secrets and living in truth! O.K., the Jesus Freak is done.... Rob
15. Reply to Ali #8
Andy ,   Ra'anana, Israel   (07.15.05)
All very simple. End the "occupation" and everything will be fine. If only Hamas would agree with you. But their idea of ending the"occupation" is getting rid of Israel completely and therefore Israel has little to gain by withdrawing. Despite that Israel did withdraw from Tulkarem only a few weeks ago, attempting to give the PA gradual control over its people. But Hamas and Jihad with the cooperation of the PA just used it as a safehaven to regroup and attack Israel. So this week Israel was forced, as on many previous occasions, to re-enter Tulkarem after having seen the PA fail to live up to its committments. And then people like Ali say "it is not fair or even logic to see Israelis kill people in Nablus and Tulkarem....". Instead of whining "Its not fair" do something about your idiotic extremists who screw things up for you every time. May be we are seeing this in Gaza now for the first time. You should be hoping so.
16. the world is silent
steven ,   france   (07.15.05)
Cher fellow "citizens of this beautiful but corrupt planet.Do you all remember last year when Israel went into Jenin Tulkarem Nablus ETC.to fork out the radicals ?The whole world went into an up roar,Israel was doing what the PA were unable to do ,track down the murderes of israeli civiliens.There were cry's of "DOWN WITH ISRAEL PUSH THE JEWS INTO THE SEA, every arab country on this planet had something to say .and not only arabs SOUTH AFRICA ENGLAND FRANCE THE USA yes I can go on until every country is mentioned.So I ask you all now,knowing that Israel is doing all it possibly can ,to with draw from Gaza,as you can read in the papers &see on the tv .Why do we not hear you now in condemming the HAMAS &the Jihad islamic & the el aqsa.You are all such hypocrits ,do you really think the palestinian and the israelis will find peace if the world does not react ?You see nothing has been learnt ,since the 2nd world war.You reacted when Israel tried to defend her self ,and now that she is again being attacked,your eyes and lips are shut,as when ,in 1935 a very evil person came to power.Your silence is but ever so clear,YOU JUST DON'T CARE.
17. To Rani
hiram ,   tel aviv   (07.16.05)
Rani... I honestly believe that the clean up must come from within. If the government in place has been elected democratically, it is up to the Palestinian people to upraise against those who are threatening the peace process.Easier to say than to do, but this is the only way... If Israel does the work, people will call it zionist imperialism...if the job is done by the palestinian themselves, the palestinian people will be recognized as having really participated in the peace process by getting rid of the terrorist organisations who are NOT in favor of peace but in fvor of TRYING to eradicate Israelis and Jews ( which has absolutely no chance to happen in any case ).
18. let's face it, palestinians don't have a clue what peace is
mike ,   usa   (07.16.05)
19. steven
(07.16.05)
except MOVE, yes Israel is doing all it can AS it immigrates into a land where others have lived fo generations,pushing them aside like dirt- treating them as second class- the JEWS ARE MOVING TO ISRAEL- not the other way around- the arabs are-were there first.
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