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'He always hated Jews and Israelis'
By Hagit Kleiman and Yaakov Lappin
Published: 20.07.05, 15:21
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61. Reply to this Ken
Johny ,   Haifa   (07.20.05)
When Ehud Barak offdered Arafat 96% of the occ.area and an additional 4% 0f the Jewish area-he rejected it and started the 2nd Intifada with up to now 1,060 Isr.dead and 7000 wounded.
62. Foolish Ken
Mark ,   Israel   (07.20.05)
Livingstone is not a fool he is evil. He has put the labor government to the test. The expelled him once and then behaved like a bunch of craven lickspittles and took him back. What will they do now? And while we're at it let's see how the brave stoic denizens of the capital city react to Hizzonor.
63. Board of Deputies only represent the Zionist lobby
accessol ,   Spelthorne, England   (07.20.05)
Your headline incorrectly describes the Board of Deputies as Jewish leaders; unless one is already a paid up member of the Zionist lobby one will never get the chance to vote for anyone to join this self appointed collection of fat cat toadies. Your article should state: 'Zionist Leaders outraged' which is like saying the earth is round; most British Jews are not fanatical supporters of Israel and, like myself, support Ken Livingstone 100 pct.
64. Boycott London?
(07.20.05)
Please do, We dont want bigots like you visiting. # 59. And we dont need you money . In fact, We WELFARE you.
65. To the Israeli who has visited Gaza
Bassem ,   Gaza, Palestine   (07.20.05)
The main misery of Palestinians in Gaza is caused by Occupation and the illegal control of a nation. Gaza itself is a big camp where 1.3 million Palestinians live in a tiny area and filled up with 21 illegal Israeli settlements on 40% of the land of Gaza. I am sorry to say that you have visited Gaza as a tourist but you have not experienced the life under occupation. You have visited Gaza but you know nothing about Gaza. You came for a peaceful dialgoue with its citizens but never understood the real cause of the problem...
66. What exactly are you mad at?
Stephen ,   Raleigh   (07.20.05)
That Ken sounds like the terrorist spouting trash that he is or that he's a white English mayor of London spouting trash that he is? His statements are not dramatically different from what you hear in the Arab press or from Hamas. So if he's intent on making London the bulwark of shahids and monsters in the west, then each time another bomb goes off in London, it will be that much closer to the pogrom that Ken wants to lead. We know it, he knows it. everyone knows it. And Jon Sacks can express all the outrage he wants. It won't matter when they pack off Jews to be 'relocated to the east'. In the end the only difference between London and Damascus is location.
67. Ken Livingstone
harold tobin ,   United Kingdom   (07.20.05)
Once again our Mayor has offended the majority of British Jews by trying to justify the homicide bombers. He should resign at once.
68. to #64
Isac ,   Boca Raton   (07.20.05)
So you welfare us? Since when does Britain welfare the United States? It is obvious, that in your hate against Israel you oversaw, that I am an American citizen denouncing the London mayor (and not its citizen!). And yes, I will boycott London, and so will many more do, and you should rather call for the resignation of your fascist mayor. Now that would be a courageous thing to do after Livingstone's latest remarks that he understands the actions of Palestinian suicide bombers. I am just wondering if the moron Ken also supports psychological therapy for the perputrators of the brutal London attacks??!!
69. To those who say Palestine is Jordan
Farouk ,   Jerusalem   (07.20.05)
This conflict is not about a piece of land it is a conflict about this piece of land. This was understood years ago. Palestinians are comprised of Christians and Moslems who are tied to this land by relegion, culture, heritage etc.. Equally the Jews have also a right to this land by all means. Now, all three of us cannot leave it nor give it up. So we must learn to understand each other more, accept all claims live together and make this land truely holy and land of Peace. We should not fight each other our fight is with the radicals within our societies. So if you do not accept this then face your inner demons. Nobody is leaving here.
70. Red Ken Anti-Semite Extraordinaire
Alan ,   Middle America   (07.20.05)
Here is the kicker. Sadly, almost as bad as the mayor of London is a British government who have refused to call for his resignation every time he spews his verbal diarrhea. I hold them in contempt as well. As for Tony Blair. In his impassioned speech last week before the parliament he mentioned every country and city who have been the victim of terror....EXCEPT Israel!! So to a certain extent, what can we expect? Except more of the same but only worse. For all those who are anti-Semites in the open, those who think it, those who base their 'bankrupt self absorbed views on it and those who are quiet about it, they are simply one in the same. And here it is almost 2006 and things are feeling more like the 1930's all over again.
71. gilgul ha nefesh of Neville Chamberlain will destroy brits
(07.20.05)
72. this man wants to save his country from
aaa ,   aaa   (07.20.05)
what america is becoming , so stop putting words in his mouth and let him speak his mind , after all its a democracy and anyone can speak as he likes , or all of you jews are happy when someone speaks bad about the rest of the world as long as not against you .. stop your incitment and hatred and evelnis and let people speak as they wish.....
73. BEFORE 1948, JEWS WERE THE ONES WHO WERE PALESTINIANS!
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (07.20.05)
There NEVER was an Arab country of Palestine. Jerusalem was NEVER the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. JERUSALEM IS MENTIONED OVER 800 TIMES IN THE BIBLE, not once in the Koran. Arabs FIRST took the name “Palestinians” in 1967. Arafat was the FIRST leader of this new people. Before 1948, Jews were known as the Palestinians! The Jewish newspaper, the Jerusalem Post was called the Palestinian Post. After the Jews miraculously transformed desert and swamps into rich, agricultural land (for which Jews are world famous!) Arabs came in large numbers from Arab countries for jobs from the Jews. The fact that the overwhelming majority of Arabs resided only briefly in Palestine is attested to by the special UN decree: that any Arab who had resided in Palestine FOR ONLY TWO YEARS BEFORE 1948, and then left, would be considered a refugee and so would his descendants!!!
74. he fears from al kaide terror
mihael ,   istanbul   (07.20.05)
he fear like his european colleagues from al kaide terrror . but he is wrong . his describitions encourages that terror organization . ı am reallysad to read his explonations . what did he mean and why did he think that ? he is afraid of terror and may be he had to talk like this . these kinds of leaders always creates terror cells ı hope he will resign because he does not represent the public . he is a servent for arabs
75. To awni # 52
JJ   (07.20.05)
The answer to your question is: Israel was created around 3100 years ago. The national capital was Jerusalem, the language was Hebrew, and the religion was Judaism. This was thousands of years before the Arab invasion. There could be room for us both here, 2 states for 2 nations, if you stop the jihad. If you wanted peace you could have had it many times, but you choose war and lose every time. It could be different here, if you want it to be. If you continue the jihad nothing will change for you, and you will never defeat the nation of Israel in the land of Israel.
76. Livingstone Will Get His Just Desserts
Adina Kutnicki ,   NJ, US   (07.20.05)
Too bad this fool and Jew hater was in Singapore when the bombs hit London. Perhaps he will be within bombing range next time. There will be a next time due to Livingstone's coddling/alliance with terror leaders. But don't fret. The chickens have come home to roost. May aALL the innocents escape harm, and ALL the terror supporters be within striking distance of these Islamic madmen!
77. LINDA the Propoganda Machine
Farouk ,   Jerusalem, Al Quds   (07.20.05)
Off course Jerusalem was never mentioned in the Holy Quran because it is called Al Quds which is derived the meaning the "holy place". Forget my arguement and face reality. Three relegions exist in this land and two nationalities and several ethnic groups and many cultures. This is a beautiful mosiac. All of whom have strong claims ranging from Adam to today. There are historic sites and religious sites that prove the three religions are here. You can discard that notion of yours and look around you. Finally you cannot write history as you want it to be. Jews and Arabs were here, are here and will stay here. Deal with it my dear, be constructive and expand your sources of information.
78. the State of Israel MUST retaliate and ask apologizes !
Frank   (07.20.05)
79. to Bassem #65- Ken and Hamas are idiots
Andy ,   Israel   (07.20.05)
If the "occupation" is so bad, how come Hamas is doing everything possible to make Israel's withdrawal more difficult? Without Hamas and continued terror Israel would have withdrawn a long time ago. Gaza was again this week blocked off, divided in to three without free passage from north to south-and why? Because Hamas are busy firing Kassam rockets at Israeli targets despite the fact that Israel is withdrawing, simply to proove that their balls are bigger than the PA's. The "occupation" should end for sure, but the day the Palestinians start to take an ounce of responsibilty for their predicament will be the day that things will start to improve for all of us. All a bit compilcated for Red Ken though...
80. Anti-Semitism
Isac ,   Boca Raton   (07.20.05)
So your name is aaa. Well, I guess you even do not have guts to reveil your real name. So much for integrity and courage. Livingstone is expressing his freedom of speech??? Give me a break!. By what you are telling, so was the former german propaganda minister Goebbels. Now coming to your other point, that Jews only care if it concerns "them", than I really have to disappoint you. You are greatly ignorant. Ever heard of "Doctors without borders" (most are Jews), ACLU (Anti defamation League, defending of all minority rights in the U.S.), Israelis "Peace now", who also care about Muslims, "Betselem" which is a Israeli human rights group defending mostly Arabs. Watched the huge Israeli demonstrations in 2003 for the peaceful co-existence between Israelis and Palestinians?! Any comments on the Israeli rescue teams and Jewish organizations funding of earthquakes in Turkey and tsunamis victims in Far East.?!And the list goes on and on. Let's make one thing clear: I do not agree with most of the politics of SOME of those left wing organizations, but it shows you that worldwide Jewish organizations and in particular Jewish American organizations are much higher proportional caring about other people, races and religions than any other group. Did you hear of any major muslim organization caring about Jews? Maybe you will be able to get an answer from Livingstone??!!
81. Linda Rivera is right.Thanks to her
Yair ,   Israel   (07.20.05)
82. resign ken
mihael ,   istanbul   (07.20.05)
one mayor must be loveful not to say a word about hate . you are london mayor do you want to join one of the arab countries elections the following year ? you must know it . respect is very important . this mistake can not be understood and ıf you are respectful you must resign because you seperate the public your opinion like ıranian religious leaders do not forget you are london mayor you are in london
83. MAYOR REJECTS G-D OF LIFE WHO GAVE LIFE AS A GIFT TO DO GOOD
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (07.20.05)
The eternal G-D never changes. His word never changes. For He is G-D, and not man, the Holy One... . G-D gave His laws to Moses: "You shall not murder" The terrorist murderers of the beautiful and innocent 8 months pregnant Jewish Gaza mother and four little daughters, were hailed as heroes by the Palestinian Authority. G-D warns in the Bible. Obadiah 1:15 "For the day of the L-RD draws near on all the nations. As you have done, it will be done to you. Your dealings will return on your own head." Jonah 3:8 "let men call on G-D earnestly that each may turn from his wicked way and from the violence which is in his hands." Psalm 7 "G-D is a righteous judge, and a G-D who has indignation every day."
84. to all the arabofascist outthere!
ozy ,   the deep south   (07.20.05)
k1) ken livingstone is an idiot who should be prosecuted for stupidity. 2) islam rules--- rules what? barely 2 camels and a tent... 3) jews hate the truth?--- well, depends on which truth you're refering to--- our truth is the truth.... yours, is just a facade of lies. 4) there's no other way, you or us... and i vote us , so get packing!
85. injustice and humiliation...
Campdavid 2007 ,   France   (07.20.05)
Livingston is a man who can`t tolerate injustice and humiliation and that`s what the palestinians are feeling since 1948. So for him, the palestinians have all the excuses and good reasons to do what they want to defend themselfs because since 1948 the world watchs, speaks, votes UN resolutions but do noting to help the palestinians. The armed struggle is a legitimate right for people under occupation. (UN charter) Then homes destruction and checkpoints vs human bombs that`s the deal. Another one is freedom vs security. All of you who are shocked by Livingston`s words let`s know that`s there are billions people in the world who thing the same way.
86. hey ken what did you mean ?
niso ,   istanbul   (07.20.05)
are you mayor of london or are you one of the arap countries representative . you must understand ıt you are wrong . your explonations can not prevent terror
87. Ken the antisemite...
J. Morton ,   Berkeley, USA   (07.20.05)
Do the French have Livingstone's number? French prime minister vows to fight anti-Semitism and hate crimes, urges vigilance By The Associated Press PARIS - The government will work tirelessly to fight anti-Semitism and hate crimes, the prime minister said yesterday during a speech to mark the 63rd anniversary of a World War II roundup of French Jews. Dominique de Villepin urged the French to be vigilant against revisionism and all forms of hate, including terrorism. "Let's not give the terrorists the satisfaction of sowing fear and doubt in our minds," he said. "With willpower and justice, we will win this fight."
88. nabulis &co
steven ,   france   (07.20.05)
The only reason why these poor pakistanis ,arabs and all those who are apart of the islamic nebulous,blow themselves up ,is not because they are not treated equally,take a look around you every country throughout the world has its fair share of discrimination,do these countries resort to blowing up innocent men woman and children?NO the reason is simple,they are BRAINWASHED to such an extent ,that they no longer have any self identityleft to even stop and think ,about whether what they are learning is damagable beyond recuperation.Talking about true damocracy and equality,name me one arab nation,where there is an iota of democracy and equality ,eg :for the woman, for those who do not want to go to the mosque ,and pray 5 times a day,for those who wish to read and talk politics openly ,listen to music if your imams dont like regae what about classical music?Or is this also music of the infadels.The problem with people like livingston,is, he's not far from being one of these poor brainwashed paki's ,only now it is he who is preaching on behalf of these infidel islamaic imams who are now corrupting poor lost souls like "accessol"of England.ETC ETC
89. 4. About the article
lea ,   haifa   (07.20.05)
Terror is Terror is Terror. By mistake I clicked on 'recommend" to Tom's, usa (07.20.05). Needless to say, I do not hold the same views that palestinians ever had land to get back. Lea, israel
90. 32. forthcoming visit
lea ,   Haifa   (07.20.05)
Yasha, you should go and visit your family in London. Do not let jew haters get away with seperating you from your loved ones. lea, Haifa
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