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Hamas: Pullout beginning of Israel’s end
By Roee Nahmias
Published: 16.08.05, 08:39
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1. He’s deluded.
Boaz, ,   Ramat Gan, Israel   (08.16.05)
Just like the extreme right in Israel. They both shell fall.
2. The 'end of Israel'?
Dov ,   Perth, Australia   (08.16.05)
Khaled Mashaal is an idiot and there's no need to worry about anything he says (though I look forward to reading of his imminent encounter with a missile). Unfortunately the religious right-wing are also idiots, as is Sharon and all those who allowed Israel to pursue the completely idiotic, completely disasterous settlement policy, which has only served to legitimise (a) Arab anti-semitism, incitement and violence, (b) anti-Israel opinion internationally and (c) right-wing religious Greater Israel halucinations, thus setting the stage for the probably now-unavoidable civil war. To reach peace and security Israel must close all settlements and completely disown the insane religious traitors. Disengagement doesn't mean the end of Israel, but the settlers might.
3. Don't be so sure, Boaz
RobertK ,   Jerusalem   (08.16.05)
Since Arafat died Israel has stopped the pressure on Hamas, and they've rebuilt into an army of many thousands. Smuggling is continuing full-scale--a lot of it via Negev Bedouins to Judea and Samaria. Lots of Kassam factories in Judea and Samaria, too. Al Qaeda is already supposed to have a foothold in Gaza, and thousands of Pal. fighters are already on the way there from Lebanon. I wish the world worked the way you want it to work--you just subtract Gaza, and everybody pats you on the back in appreciation, and peace prevails. It used to be believed universally that Israel should not give up territory unless peace agreements and security arrangements were in place. But security concerns are now old-fashioned, too.
4. What else is 'new...'.?
Sivan ,   Israel   (08.16.05)
5. Only the idiots do not listen to what the enemy says!!!
HaDaR ,   Israel   (08.16.05)
Only the idiots do not listen to what the enemy says!!! Hamas KNOWS that after the deportation of Jews from Gaza and Northern Samaria they will have an easier task in murdering Jews, Hamas knows that the fascistic decision to deport Jews from their homes will cause a break in Israeli society. They know that now the Tal Avivians will have to fill the positions that they CANNOT fill and that will be left by all those who wiull not show up any longer in elite units and reserves, where they are almost 47%.
6. Israel must kill Mashaal the bastard (they already tried )
Yair   (08.16.05)
7. ISRAEL SHALL COMPENSATE PALESTINIANS ALSO
ALEX ,   WEST BANK   (08.16.05)
WITHDRAWING IS A CONFESSION OF OCCUPATION AND YOU SHALL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR. ISRAEL SHALL COMPENSATE PALESTINIAN FOR ITS OCCUPATION & AGGRESSION FOR ALL THE PAST YEARS. GERMANY COMPENSATED YOU FOR ITS INHUMANE ACTS AND ISRAEL SHALL DO THE SAME.
8. Palestinians missing yet another opportunity
Howard ,   West Coast, USA   (08.16.05)
Hamas has taken up Arafat's legacy of learning the wrong lessons. Ehud Barak offered the Palestinians Gaza and most of the WB 5 years ago. Arafat and Hamas rejected the offer in order to "win a military victory." Hamas wants to take credit for "winning" Gaza with the 2nd intifadah, when in fact all they did was to waste 5 years and thousands of lives and destroy the Palestinian economy. The settlers did not run away from anything; on the contrary, they fought the disengagement tooth and nail. So if he thinks this somehow means that Israel will vanish, he's living in the same kind of dreamworld that some settlers are. As for his claims to be a mind reader, Palestinians have not proved to be particularly good at reading Israeli minds over the years. Finally, I think that any government or media outlet that does not come out and AGGRESSIVELY back Israel's move and AGGRESSIVELY clarify these kinds of facts is helping to ensure that people will buy Hamas' deluded BS, which will lead a lot of lunatics worldwide to step up their activities.
9. The "end of Israel" Has anyone told God He was wrong!!!
Michelle-anne ,   Australia   (08.16.05)
As long as theres a moon and the stars there will always be Gods Chosen people. He has already said that. WHO am I to say He's wrong!! The men who think they run this world have less authority than I do to say "Get out". AH Hold on a little longer Israel!! Redemption draws nigh. Theres a lot of prople in Australia who are praying for strengh for you all.
10. To 7
(08.16.05)
Israel occupied the people much like the way the allies did to nazi germany. They were defending themselves from relentlessly aggressive enemy. The question I see is how long it will take for Israel to return once terrorism becomes too bad. The fact is that it's the arabs that should be paying compensation to Israel. The arabs threw out their Jewish populations and stole all their belongings and wealth. And they owe Israel reparations for the constant wars they have placed on her. Besides the constant terrorism that they perpetrated directly on Israel's civilian population with complete disregard and hatred for human life. And o'yea one more thing the territory is disputed. http://www.palestine-un.org/plo/pna_two.html Palestinian National Charter 1964 edition. Article 24: This Organization does not exercise any territorial sovereignty over the West Bank in the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, on the Gaza Strip or in the Himmah Area. Its activities will be on the national popular level in the liberational, organizational, political and financial fields.
11. Now, now #5 :-)
Ann C. ,   USA   (08.16.05)
What do you mean, "Hamas knows that the Retreat Plan will cause a break in Israeli society?" Didn't you read what Mr. Divided said about that? QUOTE: "The nation will REMAIN united" http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=87836 Thank you Peres! The wine, or drugs must be incredibly potent over there if Peres thiinks that there is unity in Israel right now. Your corrupted leaders are taking the sleeping public into the abyss.
12. israel never ends hamas ends
mihael ,   istanbul   (08.16.05)
gaza pullout is the first step for combating hamas and jihad and their cruel leaderz are going to end at the end of the pullout . noone can stop İSRAEl - forget jarusalem . hamas lf you attack against lsrael gaza will be your grave ... we will send meshal near yasin :)
13. TO 10
ALEX ,   WEST BANK   (08.16.05)
AT LEAST, THE TERRIBLE ATTACKS AGAINTS ISREALI CIVILIANS WERE CARRIED OUT BY ORGANIZATION NOT BY YOUR IDF WHO ACTS ACCORDING TO ORDERS GIVEN FROM AN ELECTED GOVERNMENT. SO TELL ME HOW YOUR IDF DEFENDED YOU WHEN THEY KILLED MANY PALESTINIAN CHILDREN OVER THE PAST YEARS???? JUST TRY FOR ONE DAY TO BE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE EQUATION. I WONDER WHAT YOU WOULD DO THEN.
14. HAMAS THİS İS YOUR END NOT lSRAEL S
miHael ,   istanbul   (08.16.05)
HamaS must know that this ls the end of mashal zehar and others . do not be hapPy becausE gaza will BE a grave for you and gAza is going to Be prıson lf you attack lnnoCenT people . learn that jarusalem can not be given to you like gaza forget Jarusalem & our holy lands. l think mashal s explanations aggainst lsrael conflrms that he mlsses yassin . dont worry mashal we wlll send you near hlm ::::)
15. To 13
(08.16.05)
"AT LEAST, THE TERRIBLE ATTACKS AGAINTS ISREALI CIVILIANS WERE CARRIED OUT BY ORGANIZATION" You mean Hamas? Islamic Jihad? these organizatiosn which have SWEPT the local elections. Which presented such a threat to Abbas that he delayed elections until January? " NOT BY YOUR IDF WHO ACTS ACCORDING TO ORDERS GIVEN FROM AN ELECTED GOVERNMENT." Yes see unlike these "organizations" their is one gun and one gov't. Their isn't the complete anarchy the PA allows to say that they are "weak". When something happens the army does what it's ordered to do. "SO TELL ME HOW YOUR IDF DEFENDED YOU WHEN THEY KILLED MANY PALESTINIAN CHILDREN OVER THE PAST YEARS????" You mean these kids? http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/details_pop.aspx?iid=53354035&cdi=0 http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/details_pop.aspx?iid=53354027&cdi=0 http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/details_pop.aspx?iid=53249260&cdi=0 http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/details_pop.aspx?iid=53354010&cdi=0 http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/details_pop.aspx?iid=53353998&cdi=0 http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/details_pop.aspx?iid=53353993&cdi=0 http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/details_pop.aspx?iid=53353990&cdi=0 http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/details_pop.aspx?iid=53353978&cdi=0 http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/details_pop.aspx?iid=53353682&cdi=0 http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/details_pop.aspx?iid=53353335&cdi=0 Or you mean these kids with their "friends" http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/details_pop.aspx?iid=51117961&cdi=0 http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/details_pop.aspx?iid=50823510&cdi=0 http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/details_pop.aspx?iid=50823415&cdi=0 http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/details_pop.aspx?iid=3158119&cdi=0 http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/details_pop.aspx?iid=52649424&cdi=0 "JUST TRY FOR ONE DAY TO BE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE EQUATION. I WONDER WHAT YOU WOULD DO THEN. " I guess I would do, whats expected in that society... Go kill Jews.
16. EMPOWERING AL-QAIDA IN GAZA. AL-QAIDA NUKES ALREADY IN U.S.
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (08.16.05)
worldnetdaily.com July 11 2005 ‘Al-Qaida nukes already in U.S.’ ‘Terrorists, bombs smuggled across Mexico border by MS-13 gangsters’ “According to captured al-Qaida leaders and documents, the plan is called the “American Hiroshima” and involves the multiple detonation of nuclear weapons already smuggled into the U.S over the Mexican border. Al-Qaida has obtained at least 40 nuclear weapons from the former Soviet Union - including suitcase nukes, nuclear mines, artillery shells and even some missile warheads. The plans for the devastating nuclear attack on the U.S. have been under development for more than a decade. It is designed as a final deadly blow of defeat to the U.S…thousands of al-Qaida sleeper agents have now been forward deployed into the U.S. to carry out their individual roles in the coming “American Hiroshima” plan. The future plan, suggests the attacks will take place simultaneously in major cities throughout the country - including New York, Boston, Washington, Las Vegas, Miami, Chicago and Los Angeles…” G8 leaders have promised nine billion dollars to the Palestinian Authority over the next three years. TAX DOLLARS THAT SHOULD GO FOR THE IMMEDIATE BUILDING OF BOMB SHELTERS! The following is an excerpt from sermon by Sheik Ibrahim Mudeiris, May 13 2005 on Palestinian Authority TV (transcribed by Memri TV monitor): We have ruled the world before, and by Allah, the day will come when we will rule the entire world again. The day will come when we will rule America. The day will come when we will rule Britain and the entire world - except for the Jews. The Jews will not enjoy a life of tranquility under our rule...The day will come when everything will be relieved of the Jews. The stones and trees will want the Muslims to finish off every Jew." Israelinsider.com July 8 2005 ‘From London to Gaza’ by David Bedein: “In recent weeks, American, British and Israeli intelligence sources have revealed that al-Qaida units now operate in the southern section of Gaza, and are positioned to take over the area that Israeli Defense Forces would vacate, if the proposed retreat plan is indeed carried out by the Israel government…” Gaza is to be transformed into Hamastan - the largest terror base in the Middle East with its own airport and seaport - and al-Qaida - a major threat to the entire world. worldnetdaily.com, July 18 2005 ‘Al-Qaida’s U.S. nuclear targets’ “The series of attacks is designed to kill 4 million, destroy the economy and fundamentally alter the course of history. New York and Washington top the preferred target list for al-Qaida leadership. The captured terrorists and documents also suggest smaller attacks may take place on American soil before the nuclear incidents. They may include some involving automatic weapons at schools and shopping malls. Another requirement dictated from the top at al-Qaida is that the attacks take place in daylight, so that the whole word will be able to see the images of a mushroom cloud over an American city…”
17. I have a question
Elisheva ,   NY, USA   (08.20.05)
Does anyone know if it is true that the Israelis who had to leave their homes were given $50,000 each to help them out?
18. Gaza Pullout
Jim Walker ,   Bryan, Texas USA   (08.20.05)
As an American with a brother in law living in Jerusalem, and as a Christian, I am appalled and saddened that Israel is giving up territory rightfully theirs, in accordance with God's divine plan. It saddens me to see so many Jews displaced, once again. Have we not learned the lessons of WWII and the holocaust. Have we not seen enough tears and bloodshed, only to invite more. This pullout will only intensify the Palestinian resolve in continuing its terroristic tactics and threats. Gaza today, Jerusalem tomorrow. God help us all. Jim Walker
19. No comparison
Katie ,   Sacramento, CA   (08.23.05)
Alex, obviously you know very little about the Holocaust. There is no comparison between the Jews' suffering at Nazi hands and the Palestinians' discomfort during the "occupation" which would never have occurred if the Arab nations hadn't tried to invade Israel and drive the Jews into the sea!!!
20. To 10 and 15
Katie ,   USA   (08.23.05)
Very well said (and shown). Thank you.
21. Two missiles to this guy please.
sw ,   Buenos Aires   (08.24.05)
Mashaal don't smile too much or a missile will be in your mouth.
22. #13
tony ,   paris   (08.27.05)
Do you know why so many children were killed?I'll tell you ,once and for all.Your so called "freedom fighters"always put children and civilians in the front lines with stones,to throw at tanks,and armed soldiers You only showed the world your stupidity,because these poor "martyres" died in vain.When a child dies in a battle,it is cowardly,to use this as a "SACRIFICE FOR THE NATION" You send your children wired up with bomb belts,to be blown to hell and you blame the Israelis? if your "combatants were the only ones to die ,then one might say that they died for the palaestinian cause.A child should be with his family at home,but then again ,if the parents are ready to sacrifice their children,like it was often said,,after a suicide attack,then we really can do nothing more,but pray for these sacrificed children. So please ,be a little more intelligent ,and don't use these innocent deaths as a lame excuse ,for your stupidity.
23. GOD loves Israel!
pastry ,   atlanta, ga   (03.03.06)
why is the wolrd so worried about what the arabs say about israel? they are losers in this conflict and their anger proves it. they riot about everything that is not going their way, like small children lacking disipline. Israel belongs to the Jews and history proves it. the real estate belongs to GOD and who can question that. the arabs didnt do a thing with the middle east except for creating a false moon god religion from the mysticism and fantasy. lets see how well hamas does with the so-called palestinian cause. GOD WILL DEAL WITH ALL OF ARABS in do time .
24. all is well.
pastry ,   atlanta, u.s.a   (03.04.06)
anybody with good sense and a knowledge of biblical truths and understanding realize that this is the final stage of islam and the idiots that are in bondage to it. enjoy and watch how our lord deals with the israeli-arab situation. remember the six day war? the arabs are quarrelsome and havent a chance of belonging to the civilized world until they realize that jesus is LORD and that rejecting him is eternal death. i dont hate the arabs but i see that the bible speaks very clear on the decendants of ishmael. they riot about everything and bring pain on themselves. wake up arabs and realize that you are in bondage to a religion that permits you to kill and hate. everyday i rejoice for israel because i know that GOD is going to use that great military and smash the insane and mystic dictators in those spiritualy dead arab countries. arafat was a murderer and also cheated his own people in the palestinian authority. saddam was a dictator who asked for martyrdom but insteed chose to hide in a hole and live. osama bin laden sends yound arab boys to their death as suicide bombers and yet he never tells them that he would join them on a mission leading by example. its a good time to be alive, to finally see islam destroyed. have a great day.
25. for #7
pastry ,   atlanta usa   (03.04.06)
are you mad!!! the palestinians need a sincere civilized wake up call. by the way, what is a palestinian?
26. Say what?
Marco ,   USA   (07.29.08)
Dear Michell -ann, I think you're the only one praying for Israel in Australia, the Australians have better things to do ( example: surfing) if you're so pro israel, why don't you go overthere and help keeping up the zionist destruction?
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