EU: Gaza deal needed to end occupation
Diana Bahur-Nir
Published: 30.08.05, 15:11
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1. End of Occupation
Ramon ,   Tel Aviv   (08.30.05)
The PA realized that Israel would attempt to receive an "End of Occupation" or "End of Responsibility" over Gaza. In fact, the PA conceived a plan to convince international organizations not to accept Israel's argument. See Ynet (8/8). I work at the Re'ut Institute. Re'ut identified this threat and tried to work for ways to reduce its impact on the Jewish state. See Eran Shayshon's article in Ynet
2. links
Ramon ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (08.30.05)
Sorry that the links did not work, here they are again Re'ut Institute: Eran Shayshon's article in Ynet:
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (08.30.05) July 8 2005, 'From London to Gaza', by David Bedein "In recent weeks, American, British and Israeli intelligence sources have revealed that al-Qaida units now operate in the southern section of Gaza, and are positioned to take over the area that Israel Defense Forces would vacate..." Since 1974, it has been Islamist strategy that when Israel was sufficiently weakened through a combination of diplomacy and violence, the Arab nations would join in the final solution against Israel. PA leader, Abbas was Arafat's partner for over 40 years. Shortly after Oslo, Arafat explained on Jordanian TV the PLO strategy adopted in 1974: "Since we cannot defeat Israel in war, we do this in stages. We take any and every territory we can of Palestine, and establish sovereignty there, and we use it as a springboard to take more. When the time comes, WE CAN GET THE ARAB NATIONS TO JOIN US FOR THE FINAL BLOW AGAINST ISRAEL." Colluding with Egypt, the Palestinian Authority have smuggled in anti-tank missiles and anti-aircraft shoulder fired missiles that can take down commercial jets. Israeli leaders invitation for Egyptian military forces to deploy on Israel's border with Egypt fits in perfectly with the Islamist plan for the destruction of Israel, the world’s only Jewish state and its replacement with an Islamic state. Egypt is equipped with the latest American weapons. Massive U.S. military aid making Egypt the largest and most powerful Arab army. In 2004, U.S. Congressman Tom Lantos in the House International Relations Committee, warned Egypt was building up its military in preparation for a future war with Israel. M.K. Steinitz stated: Egyptian military "has been training for war against Israel for the past 10 years." After the 1967 War, the American Joint Chiefs of Staff report stated ISRAEL CAN ONLY BE DEFENSIBLE IF IT RETAINS JUDEA, SAMARIA, GAZA AND THE GOLAN. israelnationalnews - Jan 10 2005 - Israel Radio's morning newsmagazine reported PA leader, Abbas, appeared the night before and declared before cheering crowds, the "little Jihad had ended, and now the BIG JIHAD IS BEGINNING." The crowd responded, "A Million Shahids Marching to Jerusalem!" Israeli military analysts state that after Israel's exit from Gaza terror will greatly increase. Gaza will become Hamastan - the largest terror base in the Middle East with its own airport and seaport - and Al-Qaida - a major terror threat to the entire world - worldnet, July 11 2005 ‘Al-Qaida nukes already in U.S.’ Al-Qaida is planning an “American Hiroshima” involving multiple detonation of nuclear weapons. G-8 leaders have promised 9 billion dollars to the Palestinian Authority over the next three years. TAX DOLLARS THAT SHOULD GO FOR THE IMMEDIATE BUILDING OF BOMB SHELTERS! The Road Map Islamic terror state will reduce TINY, over-crowded Israel to a 9 mile wide border at its middle. A TOTALLY INDEFENSIBLE ISRAEL. Through a series of horrifying concessions and suicidal agreements, under intense pressure from the U.S. Israel's leaders have recklessly abandoned the defense of Israel. The whole world is endangered.
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (08.30.05)
Jerusalem was NEVER the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. JERUSALEM IS MENTIONED OVER 800 TIMES IN THE BIBLE, not once in the Koran. Around 1948, Arabs violently ETHNICALLY CLEANSED about one million Jews from Arab countries. Arab governments seized the land, homes, bank accounts, businesses and assets of the Jews. Most of the Jewish refugees fled to Israel. THERE MUST NOW BE A JUST SETTLEMENT FOR THE JEWISH REFUGEES AND THEIR DESCENDANTS-COMPENSATION IN LAND AND FINANCES. In 1922, Britain illegally gave MOST OF PALESTINE-80% TO THE ARABS. The area became Jordan, giving the Arabs an Arab Palestinian state on JEWISH land. IT WAS ETHNICALLY CLEANSED OF JEWS. This area is part of ancient, Biblical Israel, and along with present-day Israel, including Judea, Samaria, Gaza and the Golan was recognized by the League of Nations as the Jewish homeland. In 1948, Egypt invaded Gaza and ethnically cleansed ALL Jews. In 1948, Jordan invaded Judea-Samaria (West Bank) and east Jerusalem and ETHNICALLY CLEANSED ALL JEWS. Jordan, opposing G-D DESTROYED 58 synagogues in Jerusalem. In 1967 when Israel won Islam's religious war of aggression against it, Jews returned to the areas of their homeland they had been ethnically cleansed from for 19 years. Islamofascists DECEITFULLY call this return "occupation". Under international law, territories are considered "occupied" only when taken in an act of aggression which does not apply to Israel. Judea, Samaria and Gaza are not 'occupied territories' according to international law because they were not taken from any foreign sovereign. ALL of the Jewish land, homes, properties and businesses stolen from the Jews in the 1948 Islamic invasion must be returned to the Jews IMMEDIATELY.
5. Sharon screwed us
Shai ,   Israel   (08.30.05)
It's proof that there has been ABSOLUTELY NOTHING gained for Ariel Sharon's insistence that we withdraw immediately, and completely, from Gaza. The political situation the EU is agreeing with the PA to put us in would be NO DIFFERENT than the one that would exist if we kept the army in the abandoned neighborhoods so that we won't have to reinvade when the PA imports more terrorists and starts attacking us from GAza and to maintain our intelligence networks, and if we kept the northern GAza settlements that are contiguous to the Green Line rather than abandoning them concurrently with the principle that the Green Line shouldn't be the only basis for determining withdrawal terms. At the same time, it keeps the UNWRA people in Gaza employed, so don't expect the UN to rock the boat. The PA wants refugee status to be maintained so that they can continue to suckle off the UN tit, and the other terror organizations in the PA want the status to continue so that nobody can undermine their contention that attacks from Gaza on Israel are illegitimate as long as there is not a settlement on the WB that the Pali's can agree with. The EU and the UN are intent on making sure that the PA pay no political price for their terrorist recidivism, their refusal to carry out their obligations under the Sharm (Sham) accords or to start the process of the Road Map, or any of the other myriad agreements they committed to. Thanks for nothing, Ariel Sharon. ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY NOTHING. Efes. And what really pisses me off is that nearly everybody saw this coming but you, Sharon. Some who saw it coming said "give it a chance". Now look what happened. No more chances. This is proof that NO CONCESSIONS WHATSOEVER SHOULD EVER AGAIN BE CONSIDERED UNTIL THE WORLD SEES WE ALSO HAVE TERMS FOR SETTLEMENT OF OUR DISAGREEMENT WITH THE PALS THAT MUST BE RESPECTED. As far as I'm concerned, move the fence into Area C even deeper when it suits our purposes, as a "land grab" or whatever, because it's not going to make any difference - in the end we'll be backed into a corner and we'll have to fight for every square cm of this place. Mark my words. The EU, UN and the PA have sown the kernel of war to the death with this decision.
6. Envoys opinions
gil ,   ashkelon   (08.30.05)
Ask Solana what is he doing for peace in Kosovo where moslems are still trying to expel the few remaining serbs,what is he doing in Darfour,Zimbabwe,Indonesia, Philipina,Columbia,Tchechenia UE envoys,remember Moratinos,Arafat twin,not mentioning others dedicating their efforts to destroy Israel with their lies.To prove their one side position,he meets with Beilin.
7. linda, you just don't get it and i see you NEVER will
mike ,   usa   (08.30.05)
just don't ever say you have no hatred toward the palestinians. seeing what you post, nobody will ever believe it.
One big prison ,   Gaza   (08.30.05)
Dear Ramon, you are trying again to explain things in a very strange way. The fact that you and anyone else can not deny is that Israel wants to get rid of the Gaza Strip people, meanwhile keeping Gaza as a one big prison. I do not understand what Israel want??? Does Israel afraid from Gaza war planes or Gaza neuclear missles??? Does Gaza great Navy threaten Tel Aviv beaches or the Chemical weapons in Jabalia Camp will destroy Israel?? If ISreal wants realy peace, let the Palestinian people live as all human beings and forget the control over other nations. For more details, see:
9. 8 - don't play stupid
Shai ,   Israel   (08.30.05)
Obviously, the sooner Palestinians start living as humans we'll all be the more thankful. Aside from the fact that we won't control your borders with Egypt or your sea port according to the lastest agreements (you seem to be a bit out of date), our interest is only in making sure that you don't intensify the terrorists' hold on the West BAnk as you've allowed to happen in Gaza, and to ensure that you won't put us in the position where we need to act to shut down the terrorists in GAza because you won't. If you want a connection to the West BAnk, earn it. Shut down the terrorist organizations and arrest the terrorists, don't integrate them into your government and police force as if this were a political virtue. None of us buy it, and we'll not allow you to extort anything further from us until you give us, at the very least, the conditions under which we can defend ourselves, not where we need to depend on you or anyone else to do it.
Daisy ,   USA   (08.31.05)
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