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1. Holocaust days does not exclude Moslems
Ilan ,   Ariel   (09.11.05)
They are as much part of Holocaust day as the Germans
2. Holocaust day in England
Hiram ,   Tel Aviv   (09.11.05)
They do have a point. Why ? 1)Although England's behavior during the war leaves nothing to be said, the country was never confronted with occupation, deportation and atrocities commited both by the Einzatzgruppen and the criminals operating detah camps following the Wansee conference. It is to be supposed that the decision by Tony Blair was one of a political nature aiming as comforting him with Jewish votes. 2) Nothing stops the Jewih community, the Moslem community, the Indian or Nepalese community to have they own " holocaust" days if there is any kind of historical justification. However, it is also true that the scale and magnitude of the crimes aginst humanity organized by the NSDAP regime ( the Nazis) are tragically unique in the history of 20th century ( and before) with the Armenian Genocide being the second one. If I was not broadminded, I would says that Moslems will be entitled to an " Holocaust day " when they will have reached a highest figure, when some regime will have decided the eradication of all Moslems in England etc.....but in a mixed culture, wished for and established with the approval of successive governments, I believe that the decision to cancel that "holocaust"day would come at the right time. A difficult decision to make, unless Tony Blair is ready to loose whatever Jewish votes he may be expecting in a possible election campaign.
3. Abu Mazen's Paper on the Holocaust
Johnny Weintraub ,   Sugar Land, Texas US   (09.11.05)
Didn't Abu Mazen (Mahmood Abbas) once write a thesis that the Holocaust never happened, and is a hoax to gain sympathy for Jews? Apparently, Prime Minister Tony Blair agrees with that.
4. The real reason why........
Adam ,   Manchester UK   (09.11.05)
Being from the UK myself I can let you know some facts. THe Muslims supported Holocaust memorial Day as it covered other genocide apart fromt he Shoah - Rwanda, Cambodia etc but they wanted the 'genocide' against 'Palestinians' included which the organisers rejected unless the 'genocide' against Israel by suicide bombers/wars etc was included. The Palesinians obviously rejected this and ths withdrew there support and have been campaigning against it ever since. Some of the people advising Tony Blair to cancel this are Muslim advisors who have such views that Freemasons and Jews convinced Blair to go to Iraq and that the 6 million Jews killed by the Germans was a big lie and completely exaggerated! Additionally, I think they are a bit annoyed that Muslim SS units were created by the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem to help the annilation of Jews and Serbs..... Therefore the Muslims have a holocaust memorial day to but chose not be included. This event is commemorated and participated by Hindus, Christians and Sikhs etc as well as Jews.
5. muslim provocation again against Jews
(09.11.05)
6. Europe is finished. Muslims are the winners
(09.11.05)
7. If they want it, give them a Holocaust
Gary ,   Sydney, Australia   (09.11.05)
We've had centuries of Inquisitions, violent expulsions, Pogroms, and The Holocaust. If someone else would like to take our place then please let them.
8. Negationism?
yoel ,   Switzerland   (09.11.05)
Does the history offend people when it's only to stating facts? I don't care if some people feel sad or guilty. We have our own history, and we shouldn't rewrite it just because it's not convenient for some (extremist) muslims. Yes, some Muslims were collaborators with Hitler, like Jerusalem's Imam Husseini... Others were strong opponents and refused to sacrify its own jewish citizens, like Morrocan King Mohammed 5th z"l who was under french (collaborator ) occupation. Why don't they ask for a new remembering day? There were many other genocides, in Rwanda, Armenia, but NOT based on religious, but ethnical parameters. These people are just interested by cancelling the Jewish comemoration, and have hatred motivations. This means it's just a racist objective; it should and must be condemned for that. The same people complain because they aren't enough integrated to the british society. At the same time, they want to create new divisions in their society. It's like they decided to shoot a bullet on their legs before starting to cross the desert...
9. holocaust day
steven ,   paris   (09.11.05)
I am very sorry to say this ,But what is this about "THE WORLD IS AGAINST US" theory?????I don't believe what i'm reading here.The Muslims are showing here, their total disrespect ,or what little they have for the Jewish people.How can they now state that the HOLOCAUST DAY is offensive to their community?If it is offensive to them ,why is it respected by other religeons?Is it because of this muslim resident stating ,that the word HOLOCAUST sounds too "WESTERN"and that this gives them a feeling of exclusion and less value,than westerners???And the "THE VERY NAME HOLOCAUST MEMORIAL DAY sounds too exclusive to young muslims?????Don't these muslims know that not only did the jewish people suffer this abomanable period but also all who were not of Ayrian decendant.The meer suggestion ,or debate on this subject is ,appauling in it's self,what will the muslims of to-day,ask for next,,?That we all convert,to Islam change CHRISTIAN &CATHOLIQUE holy days,GREEK ORTHODOX,& HINDU,beliefs,and why not all the religeons existing on this planet,Yes that is what they would like to see.Don't the muslims of this world see that they are ridiculising them selves,&if they do not put an end to this folly,Islam will truly become a religeon,of fools,What really strikes me,is that they now feel so inferior,as to pose the question of whether their lives are less important than others?and like the author said,Its a grievence the Extremists would like to exploit.Why is it that no other religeon has made such an indecent proposal?If the muslims of England wish to have a Genocide day,let that be the order of the day.and lt should be understood once and for all,that they will never changethe course of this human tragedy,and the place it has in to-days history.
10. To Hiram #2
Gil ,   London   (09.11.05)
Your ignorance is astounding Hiram!! you wrote: 1)Although England's behavior during the war leaves nothing to be said, the country was never confronted with occupation, deportation and atrocities commited both by the Einzatzgruppen and the criminals operating detah camps following the Wansee conference. It is to be supposed that the decision by Tony Blair was one of a political nature aiming as comforting him with Jewish votes. IT WAS OCCUPIED! The islands around the UK such as Jersey and Guernsey WERE coccupied and English Jews of course were deported to concentration camps. It may not have been that many but even a couple of thousand is enough!! 2) Nothing stops the Jewih community, the Moslem community, the Indian or Nepalese community to have they own " holocaust" days if there is any kind of historical justification. What?? There has only been one major holocaust in Europe. There is no justification for any Hindu or Moslem holocause because there has never been one. If anything an Armenian Holocaust day yes, but there has never been any other. Lastly, there are only 280,000 Jews in the UK so we dont make ANY difference to an election result for Blair. Plus in case you hadn't noticed, the UK general election took place earlier in the year anyway, there wont be another for four years.
11. Speechless
Carol ,   Israel   (09.11.05)
I never thought I would see a world that in my lifetime could witness another holocaust. I am being proved wrong. May these people who thought of this great idea rot in hell.
12. Holocaust Day - Great Britain
Jisi ,   USA   (09.11.05)
I think that a better title for this article would be "Great Britain annexed by Eurabia." Moslems set the tone for all future policies in Great Britain. More importantly, the greater message of this "new" development is that it is time for the Jews of Great Britain to start thinking about leaving, to cut your losses, and get out, and let the British and the Moslems have each other. It's a love affair that never ended long held over since Britain ruled Palestine.
13. here we go again
sam ,   potomac, md   (09.11.05)
When the Holocaust was going on the Muslim leadership in Palestine supported it; later, they denied the Holocaust happened--while rhetorically complaining, in the next breath, that Hitler "didn't get the job done." Now they cyniically epropriate it--and , of course, Blair turns from Churchill into Chamberlain in the batting of an eye--
14. Welcome to Europe 2005 !!!
Jacob former Swede ,   TA, Israel   (09.11.05)
15. Holocaust Day
NYC Girl   (09.11.05)
This is just one more pathetic attempt, on the part of Muslims, to try to de-legitimize the suffering of the Jews. They think that if somehow they can minimize the horrors perpetrated on them by the Nazis, they'll convince the world there's no need for Israel to exist. And if the British government goes along with this obscenity, there'll be no end to the demands by the Muslim community. Apparently, even after Neville Chamberlain, the Brits haven't learned a lesson about appeasement, otherwise this outrageous demand would have been rejected outright.
16. Offended muslims
Pieter ,   the Netherlands   (09.11.05)
The only talent necessary to become a good muslim is to be stupid. For the representatives of a culture/religion which didn’t ad anything but murder, rape and discrimination to the present modern world, they are pretty arrogant (or should I say ignorant, badly informed, rude, bad-mannered, impolite, uninformed, ill-bred.) How deep can you fall? For muslims the abyss seems to be bottomless and they don’t even notice it.
17. THEIR NEXT RECOMMENDATION: JEWS ARE CLEANSED FROM BRITAIN?
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (09.11.05)
Islamofascists are extremely offended by the very presence of Jews. Haj Amin, Jerusalem's Muslim religious leader travelled to Europe and spent the war years helping Hitler murder Europe's Jews. Around 1948, Arabs violently ETHNICALLY CLEANSED about one million Jews from Arab countries. Arab governments seized the land, homes, bank accounts, businesses and assets of the Jews. Most of the Jewish refugees fled to Israel. In 1922, Britain illegally gave MOST OF PALESTINE-80% TO THE ARABS. The area became Jordan, giving the Arabs an Arab Palestinian state on JEWISH land. IT WAS ETHNICALLY CLEANSED OF JEWS. This area is part of ancient, Biblical Israel, and along with present-day Israel, including Judea, Samaria, Gaza and the Golan was recognized by the League of Nations as the Jewish homeland. In 1948, Egypt invaded Gaza and ethnically cleansed ALL Jews. In 1948, Jordan invaded Judea-Samaria (West Bank) and east Jerusalem and ETHNICALLY CLEANSED ALL JEWS. Jewish deportation in our day has already begun. 10,000 Jews were forcibly removed from living peacefully on the land in Gaza and north Samaria. Jewish land and very valuable assets seized for Islamofascists who conduct never-ending religious war against Jews. Will the U.S. next demand Jews stop having babies? The U.S. demands Jewish community (settlement) FREEZING. The U.S. along with the EU and UN, demand Jew deportation from Judea and Samaria to make hundreds of thousands of Jews jobless and homeless, greatly exacerbating Israel's Jews' dire poverty and joblessness.
18. GENOCIDE DAY A MUSLIM CELEBRATION
DAVID ,   BROOKLYN NY   (09.11.05)
HOLOCAUST DAY DACON9 - U.S.A 09/11/2005 16:24 IT PM TONY BLAIR IF YOU REMOVE THE NAME 'HOLOCAUST DAY' THEN BE PREPARED FOR SOME''NATURAL''DIDASTER IN YOUR LAND. HISTORY SHOWS YOU> ANY NATION THAT HAS HARMED THE JEWS IN ANY WAY WILL BE HARMED IN RETURN. 'GENOCIDE DAY'WOULD BE A CELEBRATION OF MUSLIMS MURDERS THROUGHOUT HISTORY AND THEIR CONSTANT ATTEMPT OF ERASING JEWISH PRESENCE IN OUR MINDS AND OUR WORLD. UNFORTUNATLY THE WORLD ONLY LEARNS AND THEN FORGETS CONSTANTLY,,,EVERY ACTION TO THE JEWS GETS A REACTION FROM THE HEAVENS,,FROM THE FIRST DAY IN HISTORY UNTIL HURRICANE KATRINA
19. obvious why they want to be rid of it
Yisraeli   (09.11.05)
Todays Islam is nothing short of the Fifth reich. Its no secret they have taken upon themselves the doctrine of nazism. Mein Kamf is widely read, distributed and studied in the arab world. Where do you think all this islamic fanaticism comes from? Where do you think all this wanton hate of Jews come from? Of course they dont want a recognised Holocaust Day for they belong to the other camp (Nazism) they just dont openly tell you. Go study http://britam.org/IslamContent.html read chapter 5 Nazism Infects Islam.
20. If geneocide is perpetrated against muslims
Eyal ,   Israel   (09.11.05)
we'd be happy to share the day with them. And only then. But 6 million must die in camps first. Many of them must be experimented on... do I need to go on? Funny how the Rwandan Hutus and Tutsi's weren't clamouring to be involved. Nor the Armenians, the Tibetans, The Aboribine's, The Native Americans... only the muslims who preach hate, death and destruction against anyone who isn't muslim. Selfish the lot of them. God! Where are You?
21. Spawn of The Grand Mufti
Russel ,   Israel   (09.11.05)
The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was a Nazi [supporter]. And I challenge you all to name the arab leader who wasn't an holocaust denier? Pathetic. Evil little twerps.
22. Mixed messages - Shukran
Sean ,   South Africa   (09.11.05)
Maybe I got the message wrong; are they volunteering to participate in their own genocide so they can share the day with us? Someone clarify this point please. Shukran. Shukran in advance.
23. Appeasement with muslims looks like appeasement with nazis
xav ,   Paris, France   (09.11.05)
They are doing exactly the same mistakes of 1938! A democracy must not be held hostage by a band of fascist,racist muslims. I AM DEEPLY SORRIED FOR UK! They saw the real THREAT (British Muslims are blowing themselves up), and choose to abandon their natural ally; British Jews that have always fought for their country and "served the queen"... What a Democracy can be weak when anti-democratic elements inside try to make it collapse! Muslims found what was the weakness of all civilizations. Hopefully, I hope the Brits will win in the future against this new threat as they won against the nazists. I think that Extremists muslims are much more dangerous than nazis because they behave exactly like them but they are not doing the mistakes of the nazis, They are hiding their real goals(which is to rule in England at the end and impose islam). At this current pace, England will be turned into a muslim country in 100-110 years "peacefully"(thanks to immigration, births, conversions). For my part, I am a frenchman and we have also the very same problem; the Jews are only 500,000 against a 5,000,000 strong muslim community; thus politicians are progressively breaking the ties with us. Maybe in the entire Europe, Jews are slowly marginalized. I hope it won't be the same in The Americas...
24. Shame to uk.
Alexandro ,   Canada   (09.11.05)
25. This is appaling
Noah ,   Toronto, Canada   (09.11.05)
Have Muslims no respect for the dead? 6 Million Jews died, along with scores of other ethnic minorities, and Muslims would like to erase that event from history because it doesn't suit their agenda? I am digusted and am worried more and more that Islam is not the religion of peace with only a few radicals. They preach that people of other faiths should be killed, particularily the Jews. Keep your guard up, Muslims will try to eradicate Jews in our lifetime and we need to strike back with all our force when that time comes. The time is approaching and is not as far off as people think.
26. negationism --> aliyah
Gary ,   Montreal, Canada   (09.11.05)
The rise of negationism in Britain once more -- this time at the hands of the organized Muslim community -- is an ugly thing to see. At least there is some silver lining in this dark cloud. It will help more British Jews understand why aliyah is the only real bulwark against Europe's deeply-rooted racism against Jews.
27. YAwwnn
(09.11.05)
look jews dont have the monoply on sufferring. in fact, it is the palestinians that are sufferring NOW, by JEWS. people are just getting a bit annoyed and bored because jews go on and on and on about the holocaust every other day,when 55 MILION OTHER PEOPLE DIED IN WW2, in camps, etc.
28. "it offends muslims..." And?
Alex ,   Madrid, Spain   (09.11.05)
"it offends muslims..." SO WHAT Mr BLAIR ???????????????????? I feel more and more sick about what is happening in Eurabia. Muslims are kidnapping our entire lives!!!!!!!!!!!!
29. raised to be evil fanatics
Sigfried S. Kuhn ,   Aberdeen Md. USA   (09.11.05)
First, decent people should feel nothing but contempt for Islamist Muslims living in the UK. They are living in a culture that stresses revenge and honor killings, disloyalty to the State, and an inability to show empathy or underestand the feelings of others because of their hatred for non-Muslims. Second, their world is a mixture of lies, and delusions. There has never been genocide against Palestinians although Islamists would sanction the murder of every Jewish Israeli if they had the power. However, they have learned the lessons of the nazis: If you repeat a lie enough times, people will believe it. Arab Countries invaded Israel in 1948 and their spokesmen openly predicted a massacre of the Jews. That is a fact. However, Israel's victory in its war of independence didn't end the calls for the annihilation of the Israeli Jews. I remember the crazed mobs in Arab countries acting like primitive psychopaths in 1967 when listening to the calls by their leaders to exterminate the Jews and their inability to accept the reality that Israel won the Six Day War. So they blamed the US for helping Israel even though their leaders knew that no country helped Israel. For them to take offense at the celebration of Holocaust Day is simply despicable. The PC and antisemitic British also deserve condemnation for even considering these heartless and hostile proposals by the Islamists. What is the Muslims next extortion? Are they going to threaten London with more suicide bombings unless Holocaust Commemeration Day is cancelled? Obviously there are Muslims of goodwill and decency in the UK. Where is their voice?
30. Muslims were part of the Holocaust
???   (09.11.05)
They participated in the slaughter of Jews just as the Nazi's did. Someone needs to remind these ingrates of that little piece of history. Muslims have been killing innocents for quite a while now and the western world allows them to live among them.
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