Opinion  Ray Hanania
No better than Israel
Ray Hanania
Published: 12.09.05, 18:06
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61. Arab Moslems hate all other religions
Micha ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (09.13.05)
The burning of Synagogues is typical of Muslim cultures. They are intollerant of all other religions. For example, during the first Gulf War President Bush Sr. visited Saudi Arabia to cellebrate Thanksgiving with the American troops stationed there. But when Saudi authorities learned that Bush planned to say grace before digging into the turkey and cranberry sauce, they informed him that it was forbidden to utter a non-Islamic prayer on their holy soil. Bush conceded and the venue for Thanksgiving was changed to a cargo ship in international waters. Another example of their intollerance. No Jew or Christian is allowed to pray on the Temple Mount which, unfortunately, is in Muslim hands. This is true even though the Temple Mount is the most holy place of all for Jews and also very holy for Christians. Imagine the world outcry if Israel forbade people to practice any religion other than Judaism.
62. It begins with honest self-critcism
Gil Borman ,   Detroit USA   (09.13.05)
Mr Hanania's willingness to decry Palestinian crimes and terrorists is to be admired, unfortunately he is mired in the one sin that is the wellspring from which most Palestinian violence stems: a refusal to honestly confront the Palestinian historical narrative that absolves Palestinians for their actions in the thirties and forties that more than merit the creation of Israel. At every turn Palestinian choices were wrong and every resort to violence has backfired. Even today the PA and Hamas crow about Gazas "liberation" when it was on the table in 1993 and Palestinians had to do was to give Israel peace. Five years of unecessary and stupid war later, Palestinians dance in the rubble of nothing celebrating as victory what is yet another catastrophe. By cutting herself off from the one coutnry that can do the most for her people, the Palestinians have ruined their future. Meanwhile, Hamas plans to restart the war and see what new failures violence can bring down on the Palestinian people.
63. Honest self-criticism by BOTH SIDES
Fadi ,   Los Angeles, CA.   (09.13.05)
Mr. Borman is typical of American Jews who blame everything on everyone else. They assume no blame. And when a Palestinien comes along and does dish it out to both sides, they still complain. Both sides must assume blame. Where is your blame, Mr. Borman? I'm curious. I don't agree with all of Hanania's views, but I do agree that Palestinians did have a chance to show that they are better than Israel, but instead just showed that they are just as bad. Fadi
64. YOu are deeply confused
WIlliam Katz ,   Dallas, Texas   (09.13.05)
Like many soul-searching apologists who try to equate the "sins" of the West with those of the Arab world, you state "More than 400 Palestinian villages including mosques and churches were destroyed by Israel after 1948." The implication is that" we do the same thing they do." However, you conveniently ignore the difference between intention and collateral damage in warfare -- Jihadis wish to kill the infidel - period. Israelis do not have this mindset. It is irresponsible and misleading to overlook this distinction. -wk
65. This is disguting
Arik   (09.13.05)
How dare you compare the Jews and the barbaric illegal occupiers of Jewish Land? This disguting column has only one purpose sanitizing Arab crimes in claiming that they are equivalent to Jewish crimes invented by the Arab propaganda. You claim to be a moderate but you are not, you are just a disgusting liar. Even if Israeli Leftists are among the worst liars, there is no equivalence between your lies and theirs.
66. If this is disgusting ...
Edmond Kort ,   Bethlehem, Palestine   (09.14.05)
If this is disgusting, I would hate to see what they consider "beautiful?" More double standards, more discrimination favoring Jews over Arabs in Israel, claims that Israel is the only democracy int he Middle East but when Arabs express opinions, they are castigated, verbally assaulted and their charges never answered, just spit back with venom? It is very tragic if you ask me. Edmund Kort Bethlehem PALESTINE
67. To #66: Peace is coming
Arik   (09.14.05)
Reading your talkback, I understand that peace is coming. Your blatant lies about the so-called discrimination of Israeli Arabs only means one thing: after Gaza, Haifa (i.e. Northen Israel) and Jaffa (i.e. Tel Aviv area). Regarding discriminations, what about the recent torching of the Christian village of Taibeh by Arabs shouting Allah Akhbar? Is Islam a religion of pyromania? Regarding discrimations, why can't tolerate 8000 Jews among you? People who torch synagogues, who ethnically cleanse Jews, who claim they want to exterminate the Jews and who try to do it have a name.
68. a name they share with you
to # 67: Edmond ,   Bethlehem   (09.14.05)
"People who torch synagogues, who ethnically cleanse Jews, who claim they want to exterminate the Jews and who try to do it have a name." It's a name they share with you Israelis ... destroy Palestinian homes, lands, farms, ethnically cleanse Palestinians from Jerusalem, kill civilians, prevent Christians and Muslims from entering Jerusalem, building a 24 foot Wall and calling it a fence, building colonies in the occupied lands that are for Jews only -- how come no Christians or Muslims are included in your settlements? And if Arab countries imposed a system on Jews -- who left to go to Israel and were not forced out -- and placed A SPECIAL CODE on their ID cards like they do to Arabs "Citizens" of Israel in their country, you would be the FIRST to call that anti-Semitism. Look in a mirror, you and your hateful people. Hypocrites!
69. #5 and 57 marked citizens
helen ,   canada   (09.14.05)
It is one thing to have a yellow star of david sewn to the outside of your clothing and having identification stating who you are. What the jewish people went through under nazi occupation was abhorrant and evil... they during this time were singled out in a very obvious way that led to much abuse and death. Having your nationality or ethnic background marked on your identification is done in alot of countries around the world and no one cries out against it... they mark these things onto all kinds of ID for people. Here in Canada people have special ID to show that they are war veterans, senior citizens, inuit or native canadian, members of the armed forces or knowledgeable in first aid. BUT all this ID usually fits in your wallet... not sewn onto your lapel and usually not used to subject you to abuse, but to give you privileges or store discounts. Trying to make an issue of this ID is petty.... meanwhile, watching all the looting going on right now at the hands of palestinians I find it hard to believe that it is the jewish people destroying so many things when the palestinians seem to relish being destuctive not only to others but to themselves also.
70. Stupidity from #50
Jeffrey ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (09.14.05)
"Zionism predates Nazism" The term Zionist may be older but Jew Hatred (Antismeitism) in Germany was very brisk in the 1800s. Only a person that cannot read or think would create this pretzel logic to make their stupid case! Hitler, the Homosexual Pedophile, is dead. Your hero killed himself. Grow a brain and get a life!
71. To #68
Arik   (09.14.05)
Your blatant lies are ridiculous and you can't prove them. As a good Arab propagandist you should have tell me that you can't prove your lies because of a major Jewish conspiracy. What's up dude? Are you virgins pissed off with your propaganda? My family is from Algeria, so don't lie to me regarding the ethnical cleansing of Jews in Arab countries: And if Arab countries imposed a system on Jews -- who left to go to Israel and were not forced out -- Jews of Arab countries had to quit their home because Arabs ruthlessy expelled them. Arabs murdered 3 members of my family. By the way why Arabs should be ashamed of the mention Arab on their ID cards? Is it shameful to be a muslim?
72. Pathetic and evil #50
Leroy F. ,   USA   (09.16.05)
Whoever you are, you are a stupid paranoid and psychopath. Zionism was started to find a sanctuary foir the oppressed Jews in a world made up of evil jew-hating animals like you. Herzl, an assimilated Jew, was shocked at how a totally innocent man, Alfred Dreyfus was framed by the French military for supposedly giving military secrets to Germany to hide the real culprit, a Major Esterhazy. Dreyfus was accused only because he was Jewish. France, supposedly an enlightened and democratic country, showed incredible animus towards Jews and only the courageous Emile Zola rallied decent Frenchmen to understand the nature of the army conspiracy. So you see, you ignorant and pathological liar and beast, Zionism only was conceived of as finding a safe haven in a world populated by antisemitic vermin like you. It had nothing to do with a master race or a desire to isolate a people.
73. Such a liar - Hanania
Jacqueline ,   Amsterdam, Holland   (09.27.05)
Stan, you are not telling the truth. Settlers ARE vicious and violent. Why should Palestinian Israelis leave the land their were born in? There was NO Israel before 1948. There has NEVER been a country called Israel before 1948. Palestine already existed 2000 years ago. Why don't you and your fellow "Israelis" go back to the European countries you all came from. There's plenty of room for you there and... hardly any Palestinians. People like you don't want peace, you want land, land that does not belong to you.
74. No better than Israel
Jacqueline ,   Amsterdam, Holland   (09.27.05)
Sara Price, how would you feel and react if you would be living under occupation and oppression for 38 years? Of course you would love those who kept you living under occupation and oppression. Of course you would cheer the oppressor and thank the oppressor for all misery you have to endure. Try to comprehend what it means to be living under constant occupation and oppression.
75. Oh, really?
Jacqueline ,   Amsterdam, Holland   (09.27.05)
Before Abraham there was no Judaism. Abraham supposedly lived around 1300 BC. So that would be ± 1900 years and not THOUSANDS of years. Judaism is not more important than any other religion. Abraham was the father of Ismael, his FIRST born son, a son he loved very much. Too much according to jealous Sarai, so she forced Abraham to send Ismael and his mother away. Furthermore, the land that God supposedly promised to jews, was the land of another people, the Canaanites. The land jews live in now belonged to the Palestinians. Thieving of land has and will never be accepted.
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