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Hamas gunmen parade in Gaza
Ali Waked
Published: 19.09.05, 09:15
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1. Hamas vs Palestinian ?
Hiram ,   Tel Aviv   (09.19.05)
Hamas does not represent the Palestinians. Hamas represents the interests of other dictatorial arabic nations such as Iran, Syria who have always understated that their ultimate goal was elimination of Israel. The question now is to know which course of action the government ( regardless of who will be in charge) will take . In any case, Hamas can only lead the Palestinian to catastrophy... The " show of force" is in fact a show off. Hatred will not achieve anything...and the fact that Hamas talks about martyrdom means that they know that some of them ( should they attempt any stupid move) will be killed.
2. Hamas thanks Sharon & company
Avraham ,   Netivot   (09.19.05)
For all this we have to thank Sharon, the left wing press & the leftits in Israel. They will only understand the terrible deed they committed when rockets start falling on their beloved Tel Aviv & area.
3. Why don't we expel tham and be done with them already?
Dani ,   Tel Aviv   (09.19.05)
Why do we allow them to remain here? The sooner we get rid of this cancer in our body, the sooner we will have peace.
4. To Avraham...
Hiram ,   Tel Aviv   (09.19.05)
Abi, There will be no rockets falling onto tel aviv. Hamas will never dare doing this , especially when the EU troops will be close by...Stop whining.... As for the " leftists" in Israel, I prefer to deal with them than dealing with Jewish Nationalists which are not better than Islamic extremists...The day when you all will separate God from the affairs of the state, there will be a real chance for peace.
5. to no 3
usa   (09.19.05)
talking about cancer, well i think when you live in an area of where you make up less then .009% then guess who is the cancer. compare the jew poplation to the arab opolation in the middle east.
6. Jerusalem!
JJ   (09.19.05)
Here's an interesting fact. The Arabic name for Jerusalem, al Quds, comes from the old Arabic name for Jerusalem, Beit El Makdes which itself comes from the HEBREW, Bet Hamikdash - the TEMPLE. Not even the Arab imperial renaming of our anicent capital can hide the fact that Jerusalem's native sons and daughters are the Israeli people.
7. U Idiot JJ, Force Always Controls
Futchack ,   Jerusalem   (09.19.05)
The Stronger always took control on Jerusalem, it is like a wheel !! Quds, Beit El Makdes , Bet Hamikdash .... bla bla .. that's because both langauges came from the same source ..... Idiot
8. bait almaqdis
ooobad ,   gaza   (09.19.05)
well all do respect to the meaning of bait almaqdis,you should know what it meens in arabic,it means the holy house of god,literliy! so its got nothing to do with what u jews call it,and about HAMAS...dont u call for democracy??then let hamas in and may the best man win...i think your just scared from them,my god i think you should be!!!!!
9. To number 8
JJ   (09.19.05)
And why do you think its called 'the house of God'?? Because its where the Temple of Israel stood for centuries maybe?? Nothing to do with us? Its got EVERYTHING to do with us Jews.
10. A reply to #8 ooobad
6pack ,   Israel   (09.19.05)
Be careful what you wish for - it might come true. Elections are only one element of democracy. What about the day-to-day life, including fair courts, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, etc? You cannot claim to have a democratic system with only an election. And by the way, Hamas is not a legitimate party because it is a terrorist group bearing arms. A similar group would be banned from running in any democratic country. If they do run and win, all I can say is that I'm sorry for you and the region. If you vote in Islamists, YOU will be ruled by them. Just ask any Iranian youth how great it is to live under such religious tyrants.
11. HIRAM HIRAM HIRAM
DACON9 ,   BROOKLYN NY   (09.19.05)
HIRAM ,HIRAM, HIRAM,,, YOUSAY REAL PEACE WILL BE ACHIEVED WHEN WE REMOVE GD FROM THE AFFAIRS OF STATE.''' ARE YOU ASKING FOR GD TO BE REMOVED FROM YOUR AFFAIRS ALSO.? ARE YOU ACCEPTING THE EXISTENCE OF GD YET SAYING THAT PEOPLE MISUSE THE POWER OF GD? OR GD WILL ''SERVE'' THE PEOPLES? OR 'GDs WAYS ARE INCOMPATABLE WITH EARTHLY AFFAIRS. HIRAM ,HIRAM, HIRAM,,, PLEASE TEACH ME....
12. Sharon Has Empowered Hamas Even Further
Adina Kutnicki ,   NJ, US   (09.19.05)
Sharon is a great "war strategist". Don't you all like the results now in Gaza - a full fledged state of Hamastan?? Great going Arik!
13. OOOO0000BAD,,, HAHAHAHA
DACON9 ,   BROOKLYN NY   (09.19.05)
OOOBAD, I REALLY REALLY DO HOPE HAMAS GETS IN POWER . I HOPE THEY DO SO MUCH, FOR YOU AND ALL OF YOUR DISPLACED ARABS FROM JORDAN AND NOMADIC TRIBES. THIS IS THE IDENTITY THAT WOULD BE MORE TRUTHFUL TO YOUR MINDSET, WILDNESS ...ISRAEL GET READY FOR THE LAST AND FINAL WAR. FORMALLY DISENGAGED ISRAELI SETTLERS ..PACK UP AGAIN, YOU WILL SOON BE MOVING BACK TO YOUR LANDS AGAIN... FARMERS..BRING LOTS OF GLASS TO REBUILD YOUR GREEN HOUSES, HAMAS AND ASSORTED 'LOST; ARABS WILL BE ONCE AGAIN DESTROYED... ATT: ISRAELIS: THIS WILL HAPPEN AS HISTORY HAS PROVEN, ***BUT PLEASE ,, ..PRAY, OBSERVE ONE SHABBAT CRY OUT TO HASHEM TO DEFEND YOU AGAIN AND BE VICTOURIOUS. THEN GET READY, OH YEAH BUY A LOT OF WINE FOR THE CELEBRATIONS AFTER YOU MOVE BACK.... "AM YISRAEL CHAI"..
14. WOULDN'T IT BE FUNNY
DACON9 ,   BROOKLYN NY   (09.19.05)
THE FUNNIEST WOULD BE IF "RABBI MEIR KAHANE IS MASHIACH". I WOULD LAUGH AND LAUGH. I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF HE IS ,AFTER ALL.. *******KAHANE WAS RIGHT********
15. THERE NEVER WAS AN ARAB COUNTRY OF PALESTINE
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (09.19.05)
Global jihad is empowered as the Islamofascists receive amazing help in the jihad against Israel from the international community. The entire world will pay the price of an Islamic terror state in Israel. Jerusalem was NEVER the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. JERUSALEM IS MENTIONED OVER 800 TIMES IN THE BIBLE, not once in the Koran. Around 1948, Arabs violently ETHNICALLY CLEANSED about one million Jews from Arab countries. Arab governments seized the land, homes, bank accounts, businesses and assets of the Jews. Most of the Jewish refugees fled to Israel. THERE MUST NOW BE A JUST SETTLEMENT FOR THE JEWISH REFUGEES AND THEIR DESCENDANTS-COMPENSATION IN LAND AND FINANCES. In 1922, Britain illegally gave MOST OF PALESTINE-80% TO THE ARABS. The area became Jordan, giving the Arabs an Arab Palestinian state on JEWISH land. IT WAS ETHNICALLY CLEANSED OF JEWS. This area is part of ancient, Biblical Israel, and along with present-day Israel, including Judea, Samaria, Gaza and the Golan was recognized by the League of Nations as the Jewish homeland. In 1948, Egypt invaded Gaza and ethnically cleansed ALL Jews. In 1948, Jordan invaded Judea-Samaria (West Bank) and east Jerusalem and ETHNICALLY CLEANSED ALL JEWS. Jordan, opposing G-D DESTROYED 58 synagogues in Jerusalem. In 1967 when Israel won Islam's religious war of aggression against it, Jews returned to the areas of their homeland they had been ethnically cleansed from for 19 years. Islamofascists DECEITFULLY call this return "occupation". Under international law, territories are considered "occupied" only when taken in an act of aggression which does not apply to Israel. Judea, Samaria and Gaza are not 'occupied territories' according to international law because they were not taken from any foreign sovereign. ALL of the Jewish land, homes, properties and businesses stolen from the Jews in the 1948 Islamic invasion must be returned to the Jews IMMEDIATELY.
16. Palestine
Abu Zaid ,   Jerusalem   (09.19.05)
I am wondering how can the poor Palestinians with few rifles run the israelis- with the state of the art military- out of Gaza?? May be because Palestine is for the Palestinians.
17. # 9 and all hard core jews
Abu Zaid ,   Jerusalem   (09.19.05)
Only moslems and Christians have holy places in Jerusalem. jews have none. Go walk the city and see, unless you are scared to go there
18. ABU ZAID. the. hard. core. arab.
DACON9 ,   BROOKLYN NY   (09.19.05)
AM YISRAEL CHAI THE NATION OF ISRAEL WILL ENDURE FOREVER AND EVER i do not put periods at the end of each line that I say because there is no end to the JEWS existence remember. mohammed. was. taught .by .a .RABBI .A JEW. that. his. uncle. hired. to. teach. this. illiterate. wild. boy. you cant erase that as you do all jewish artifacts that you so deligently do all over israel.your people remain wild and illiterate
19. To #16 Jews left Gaza because of U.S. PRESSURE
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (09.19.05)
U.S. laws were broken. American laws forbid discriminating against people based on race and or religion.
20. GLOBAL JIHAD EMPOWERED.BEFORE 1948 JEWS WERE THE PALESTINIAN
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (09.19.05)
Global jihad is greatly empowered with the astonishing support of the U.S. EU and UN for an Islamic terror state in Israel that will threaten the world. There NEVER was an Arab country of Palestine. Jerusalem was NEVER the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. JERUSALEM IS MENTIONED OVER 800 TIMES IN THE BIBLE, not once in the Koran. Arabs FIRST took the name “Palestinians” in 1967. Arafat was the FIRST leader of this NEW PEOPLE. Before 1948, Jews were known as the Palestinians! The Jewish newspaper, the Jerusalem Post was called the Palestine Post. http://palestinepostings.blogspot.com/2005/06/historical-palestinians-very-simple.html After the Jews miraculously transformed desert and swamps into rich, agricultural land (for which Jews are world famous!) Arabs came in large numbers from Arab countries for jobs from the Jews. The fact that the overwhelming majority of Arabs resided only briefly in Palestine is attested to by the special UN decree: that any Arab who had resided in Palestine FOR ONLY TWO YEARS BEFORE 1948, and then left, would be considered a refugee and so would his descendants!!! On March 31, 1977, Dutch newspaper Trouw published an interview with PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein: “The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct “Palestinian people” to oppose Zionism. For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.”
21. # 16-17 Abu Zaid from JERUSALEM.
Uzziel   (09.19.05)
You are betraying yourself from the very beginning of your assertions: Jerusalem is the hebrew and real name of the city. You have to polish your lies and propaganda... I have another guess for your message no.16: maybe the jews retired volontarily for the sake of peace, making room in their land for another "people", in fact arab economical immigrants from the 4 corners of "arabistan", because it seems that 22 arab states and millions of sq2 kilometres of land are not enough for you. But you are absolutely right: in the end Palestine will be for the Palestinians; we the real Palestinians, the jewish people. #17. So you are living in the dream city of "Al quods al arabi" expression that comes from "Ir haKodesh" ( as usual you are nothing else than robbers, liars and looters ..). I suggest you to go and visit, for exemple, the Rambam Sinagogue, in the " Ir haAtika" the old city...and tell me if it doesn t fulfill your question...Later I will send you to the Har haBayit, the Temple Mount, but for this you ll have to wait a little bit more :-) But don t despair, you will see the Glory and I hope me too...
22. #17 JERUSALEM IS JEWISH. ISLAMIST HATE FOR ISRAEL'S G-D
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (09.19.05)
Jesus Christ practiced Judaism and was an observant Jew. Jesus taught from the Torah, the Jewish Bible, in the synagogues and in the Temple on the Temple Mount. Gaza's Jews built everything on sand on land that NEVER belonged to Arabs. Muslim mobs stormed Gush Katif's beautiful synagogues; flew Hamas flags from synagogue roofs and in intense hate for G-D burned and destroyed the synagogues. Jews and Bible-believing Christians have all been robbed. Joseph is the beloved Bible hero of Jews and Christians. Muslims murdered IDF soldiers at Joseph's Tomb. With venomous hate for Israel's G-D, Muslim mobs burnt prayer books and destroyed the Tomb. Jewish worshippers and holy places are the frequent target of attacks by Islamists. Jewish and Christian holy sites are desecrated and destroyed. In the Islamic invasion and filthy desecration of Jesus Christ' birthplace, Church of Nativity, BIBLES WERE TORN UP FOR TOILET PAPER. It was an act against G-D. Inscribed in those Bibles are the laws G-D gave to Moses. Some of the laws - Exodus 20: "You shall have no other gods before Me" "You shall not make for yourself an idol" "You shall not murder" "You shall not commit adultery" "You shall not steal" "You shall not bear false witness" "You shall not covet" Exodus 21:16 "He who kidnaps a man, whether he sells him or he is found in his possession, shall surely be put to death" Muslims have perpetrated massive desecration and destruction at Judaism's holiest site, the Temple Mount. G-D designated the Temple Mount to the Jews for His worship and prayer only. Muslims repeatedly engage in massive rock throwing at the Jews on the Temple Mount, turning the holiest place on earth into a common place of violence. THE OFFENSE TO G-D IS ENORMOUS. CONTROL OF THE JEWISH TEMPLE MOUNT MUST BE RETURNED TO JEWS IMMEDIATELY.
23. #18 The Die Hard Brooklyn Jew
Abu Zaid ,   Jerusalem   (09.19.05)
Usually, When someone looses an argument-A looser I amean-, starts to attack and the other s and act like a trashy object. Was it that hard to answer with respect and some logic. Or you couldn't????
24. Uzzie Boy
Abu Zaid ,   Jerusalem   (09.19.05)
Just a correction to what you said if I may: You left eretz Israel Not for the sake of peace, but because Eretz Israel was not worth the fight. AND The whole world including 70% of the jews were more than happy to see you leave Eretz Israel. I just hope for you hard core jewish extremests to wake up and think again and join the civilized world and live in real peace that is accepted by the whole world. The same goes to the extremest Palestinian groups.
25. Linda
Abu Zaid ,   Jerusalem   (09.19.05)
Go to Jerusalem if you dare and spend your time searching for the temple instead of typing all the bullshit here Goooooooooooo
26. U.S. BREAKS LAWS MAKING THOUSANDS OF JEWS JOBLESS & HOMELESS
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (09.19.05)
22 HUGE, OIL-WEALTHY Arab states cover over six million square miles, over ten percent of the land surface of earth. TINY, over-crowded Israel, only one tenth of one percent of the Middle East. Desiring another Islamic state in Israel, America is breaking U.S. laws which make it illegal to discriminate based on race or religion. Demanding forcible removal of Jews from the Jewish homeland based on race-Jews and RELIGION-JUDAISM. Almost 10,000 Jews forcibly ethnically cleansed from Gaza and north Samaria are jobless and homeless . The U.S. ruthlessly demands more ethnic Jew cleansing to make 250,000 more Jews jobless and homeless from Judea and Samaria, greatly exacerbating Israeli Jews' dire poverty and joblessness. Creating a massive economic and human crisis in Israel. A most frightening and dangerous precedent is being established that Jews in other countries and other NON-MUSLIM people groups will suffer the same massive human rights violations as Israel’s Jews. Does the U.S. government plan to eliminate the laws which make it illegal to discriminate based on race or religion? Or, does the U.S. government plan to add a clause stating THE LAW DOES NOT APPLY TO JEWS? Persecuted Christians in Palestinian Authority areas live under Sharia law, their human rights destroyed by Oslo-Road Map. Breaking U.S. laws-Christians are discriminated/persecuted because they are not Muslim. This MASSIVE ATTACK ON JUDAISM AND CHRISTIANITY by the Quartet-U.S. EU, UN and Russia, has ominous implications for every Jew and Christian on earth. Where are the human rights organizations??? In 1922, Britain, illegally gave Arabs MOST OF PALESTINE-80%. The area became Jordan, giving Arabs an Arab Palestinian state on Jewish land. IT WAS ETHNICALLY CLEANSED OF JEWS. This area is part of ancient, Biblical Israel, and along with present-day Israel, including Judea, Samaria, Gaza, and the Golan, was recognized by the League of Nations as the Jewish homeland. Israel - cherished Holy Land of Jews and Christians is the greatest prize in global jihad - all Palestinian Authority maps show the new State of Palestine covering ALL Israel, with ALL of Jerusalem as their capital. It is well known, the Islamist goal is the destruction of the world’s only Jewish state and its replacement with an Islamic one.
27. #24 Abu Zaid.
Uzziel   (09.19.05)
Again you are correct, but only in part. Gaza is Eretz Yisrael, and the arabs are settlers there, as you and your family and kin, are settlers in Jerusalem. We keep fighting since the refoundation of the State of Israel, 57 years ago, and Tzahal defeated armed arabs, whether soldiers or terrorists in every opportunity. You are no match for an armed soldier, whatever her/his nationality is. So, again, I exhort you to think efficiently and not to be dragged by your own islamo-fascist propaganda, thousands of Israeli soldiers entered the strip without guns, without being hound by your brave terrorists, only good killing women and children, and exited the strip after a quiet military ceremony..and only THEN your brave terrorists, only good killing women and children, got out from under the bed. This is what civilization is all about, and your lack of understanding of all these things, put you and the rest of the arab settlers in the territory of the BARBARISM. Uzzie Boy
28. abu #23
DACON9 THE HARD CORE ,   HARD CORE BROOKLYN   (09.19.05)
abu BUT I DID ANSWER WITH LOGIC, AND TRUTH TOO, YOUR IGNORANCE AND HATE DOESNT ALLOW THAT LOGIC TO SEEP INTO YOUR MIND.NEVERMIND THE TRUTH. EVERYTHING I STATED WAS EITHER THE TRUTH AND FACT OR THE TRUTH AND FACT WITH MY ALLEGIANCE TO THE LAND OF THE JEWS. . I OPFFERED YOU RESPECT AND LOGIC...WHAT WAS DISRESPECT OF ME..WHY WAS IT ANY DIFFERENT THAN YOU? AHHH YES THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT JUDAIC HISTORY PROVES ITSELF OUT AS LONG AS WE JEWS CAN DIG IT UP FOR PRESERVATION BEFORE YOU ARABS ATTEMPT TO ERASE IT , ABU BEN MOHAMED TAUGHT BY A JEW. AND WHAT WAS THE FIRST THING THAT MOHAMED DID AS THE 'ENLIGHTENED ONE' HE DECLARED WAR...YA SEE BEN MOHAMED YOUR MINDS ARE WEAKER THAN JEWS,,YOU HAVE LIMITATIONS TO YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF DEEPER THINKING AND OF COURSE TRUTH.
29. Linda is correct
Fivish ,   London   (09.19.05)
All of palestine is Jewish land. The Arabs are liars and thieves. Thanks to Britains love of oil and anti-semitism, the Saudi's were encouraged to finance the Nazi party which led to WW2 and the holocaust. Thanks to Arafats uncle, the holocaust was a genocide rather than an expulsion. Thanks to Israeli capitulation with oil interests its destruction is taking place slowly as we watch in disbelief. Will someone please stop the madness that has got 132 million people killed in the last 100 years?
30. PA/ISLAMISTS MAKE WAR ON ISRAEL'S G-D CREATOR OFTHE UNIVERSE
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (09.19.05)
On March 27, 2002, at the Park Hotel in Netanya, terrorists targeted for murder Jews honoring and thanking G-D for His great mercy: Exodus 12:14 “you shall celebrate it as a feast to the L-RD” Exodus 12:42 “It is a night to be observed for the L-RD for having brought them out from the land of Egypt; this night is for the L-RD, to be observed by all the sons of Israel throughout their generations.” The Islamic homicide bomber murdered 30 Israelis as the Jews obeyed G-D, taking part in the Passover meal. 140 Jewish innocents were injured. The bomb was filled with nails and other metal pieces to maximize the suffering of survivors. On August 19, 2003, terrorists targeted for murder Jews who worship G-D - Giver of all life. The homicide bomber blew himself up on the bus as Jews returned from prayer at the Western wall. The gruesome attack-the bomb packed with metal pieces, killed 22 Jews and injured 134, many seriously. If Jesus Christ lived today, from the time Jesus was in his mother's womb, he would be targeted for murder by the Islamofascists for being a Jew living in his homeland of Israel. The Palestinian Authority hailed as heroes the terrorists who brutally murdered defenseless 8 months pregnant Jewish Gaza mother, Tali Hatuel, and four little daughters. The Palestinian Authority teach the murder of Jews as a religious obligation through their mosques, media and public education system. Islamic human bomb murderers of innocent Jews are revered and considered heroes. Broadcast from Gaza mosque, Oct 13 2000, Dr. Ahmad Abu Halabiya, on Palestinian Authority TV (transcribed by Memri): "Have no mercy on the Jews, no matter where they are, in any country. Fight them, wherever you are. Wherever you meet them, kill them. Wherever you are, kill those Jews and those Americans who are like them..."
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