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Arab population on the rise
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Published: 28.09.05, 12:28
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1. Time for Arabs to meet
MC Hammer   (09.28.05)
the condom
2. Three-pronged assault
Oleh ,   Tel Aviv   (09.28.05)
It is clear that the Arabs (Israeli / Palestinian / foreign) have chosen a three-pronged assault on Israel: 1. Terror 2. Diplomatic / political isolation 3. Demographics We have learned how to deal with issues 1 and 2 (to varying degrees of success), but issue 3 is potentially the most dangerous and most frightening. They are deliberately trying to overwhelm us with numbers, and we are doing NOTHING about it. Last year they were 15.2%, this year 16.1%, soon they will be 20%... and at a certain point all hell will break loose here. Already whole neighbourhoods or even cities that were formerly Jewish have become Arab (e.g. Lod), and Israeli authority extends there in name only. With a few notable exceptions (e.g. the Druze), the Moslem community has no real allegiance to Israel and is just biding its time until it is strong enough to overthrow the State. Over the past several years hundreds of Israeli Arabs have been caught actively assisting the terror organisations (and those are only the ones that are caught); many more provide financial or moral support to our enemies. In 2000 we had a small taste of what will happen when they join their Moslem brothers in their campaign against Israel. We disengaged from Gaza in order to defuse a demographic timebomb, but meanwhile the Arabs are assembling and priming an even more deadly bomb in our midst. I am not xenophobic and believe that Israel should exist as a multi-party, multi-cultural, pluralistic democracy. But that is just the point: given the Arab population's dramatic growth rate, our democracy will soon be overwhelmed and Israel will become another Arab country from within. What is the answer, and when will Israel wake up and read the writing on the wall?
3. It s a good time for the arabs to make claims of "genocide"
Uzziel   (09.28.05)
4. Secular population on decline
Nethanel ,   Jerusalem   (09.28.05)
As the Arab population also the Jewish religious population is growing. The Israeli government is much more afraid about about a shrinking secular population than the Arab demographics. Already today, the seculars are way to much over-represented in the government, justice and media.
5. ARAB MUSLIM ISRAELI MOBS SHOUTED: DEATH TO THE JEWS
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (09.28.05)
Israel has severe problems with their disloyal Arab Muslim population. These are problems that cannot be ignored. In 2000, treasonous Arab Muslim members of Israel's government along with the PA, incited to violence against Jews. It appears these Arab Muslim Israelis want the right to freely attack and murder Jews. One of the major objectives of Islamists is to deny Jews the human right of self-defense. The following is part of an article from jerusalempost.com, Sept. 25 2005 'Column One: Israel's disengaged establishment' by Caroline Glick: "...recall what happened five years ago. Following months of increased violence and extremism in the Arab-Israeli sector incited directly by the Palestinian Authority, the Israeli Islamic Movement and the Arab members of Knesset, violent riots seized the Arab sector of Israel in October 2000. During the week of riots, Arab Israelis threw rocks and Molotov cocktails at Israeli civilian cars throughout the country. Israeli motorists were dragged out of their cars on Highway 65 along Wadi Ara and beaten. An Israeli motorist was murdered when Arabs from Jasser a-Zarka threw a rock at his windshield as he drove down the coastal highway..."
6. Time for Jews to increase our fertility rate EVERYWHERE.
David Landman ,   Natick, USA   (09.28.05)
While I am glad to see the Jewish population increasing in Israel from births, I want to see it higher in Israel and everywhere else in the world. The world won't take us seriously until we represent a larger percent of the population. We need to increase the Jewish worldwide population to at least 150 million in the next hundred years and to 25 million in Israel, and yes, I believe Israel is large enough to support 30 million people, including the cities in Judea and Samaria. It will just be very urban in most parts. These numbers are realistic through birth, conversion, and bringing home lost tribes in India, Ethiopia, and the millions of Hispanics of Jewish descent who were forced to convert. We should strive to have as many children as we can afford to love.
7. As One Who Has More Kids Than The Arab Average
Yishai Kohen ,   YeShA, Israel   (09.28.05)
I encourage all Jews to do the same. This is Allah's will. And OUR salvation and joy.
8. what I don't get...
Michael ,   Austin, TX, USA   (09.28.05)
is if life is so miserable for Israeli arabs, if they're so discriminated against and so weary of being "second-class" citizens...why do they stay? who's stopping them from leaving? The truth, I feel, is that life is better for them in Israel than in ANY arab country. But...if they are not loyal...they should be exiled.
9. Another disengagement needs !
Franck ,   Paris   (09.28.05)
We need to disengage form arab town like Um el Fahm, Tabieh, Baka el Sharkie and most of arab J'lem, build a new barrier between these towns and Israel and revoke their israelis ID card in order to reduce the arab population in Israel.
10. ugh! Linda Irrelevant as usual!
Israeli ,   Israel   (09.28.05)
11. NOTICE: All the usuals Ahmerican Jews are quiet!
Isareli ,   Israel   (09.28.05)
12. Ah!merican Jews stop talking & start packing! Immigrate Now!
Israeli ,   Israel   (09.28.05)
13. If pregnancy were an activity that alternated between...
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partners. That is if men could get pregnant too then I would bet big money that no family would have more than two children. Which is all to say in a nice way. David Landman of Natick USA STAND DOWN! or better yet. if you are Jewish and have a Jewish wife...Immigrate to Israel.
14. One solution: encourage the Arabs to return to Judaism
sam ,   potomac, md   (09.28.05)
Many of the Palestinian Arabs had been Jewish until the 7th century--that's why some many of the Arab towns have names with Hebrew or Aramaic origins-- During the Christian --Byzantine--poeriod--many Jews in Eretz Israel converted to Christianity--and then, with the Muslim invasion, many of them, including the remaining Jews, converted to Islam rather than becoming 2nd class dhimmi At the time of the Arab invasion there were hundreds of Jewish towns in Eretz Israel --we alldidn't leave during the Roamn times. Even the name Palestine means Israel-in Greek translation--Israel--struggle with G-d---Paleasta--wrestle--the land was known as Paleastina in the Greek world long before the Romans changed the name--the association with the Plishtim is only a coincidence-- The Greeks had this annoying tendency to remame everything in Greek--Misr became Egypt, for example Judaism is Palestine centered--our rituals, our calendar--wheras Islam is centered where? Saudi Arabia! If we can go off to Burma and India to bring back lost tribes--why not also start at home?
15. The Great Conspiracy
George W ,   Chicago, IL   (09.28.05)
Oleh; The vast majority of Israeli Arabs accept Israel as a Jewish state, and are absolutely no threat at all. They criticize the state (NOT violently) because 1. they are opposed to the occupation, and 2. they want equal treatment. These seem like reasonable goals. Unfortunately, so many Israelis are so racist that they see anything Arabs do as a deadly threat to the state. Big families? It's not because that's the norm in their culture, or because they don't have birth control; it's a sinister conspiracy to wipe out the Jews! Asking that Israel be a state for all its citizens? What a dangerous idea! All that quiet you hear coming from their towns? They're just, as you put it "biding their time until they are strong enough to overthrow the state!" Tell me Oleh, is there any way an Arab could have four kids and want equal rights, and not incur your suspicion? You write that demography is a problem and "we are doing NOTHING about it." What do you propose, exactly? Forced abortions? Expelling families? There's no way to "do something about it" without entering into Milosevic/ Mao Tse-Tung territory. So you believe that "Israel should exist as a multi-party, multi-cultural, pluralistic democracy?" Doesn't sound like it. You are a bigot. Cheers, George PS In every country on earth, including Israel, when women get quality education the birthrate drops. If you are so scared of Arab babies, the best thing you can do is get rid of that disgraceful separate and unequal school system for Arabs, and give them a real education.
16. David of forced conversions and lost tribes
sally forth ,   Israel   (09.28.05)
I refer you to the seminal works of Prof. Benzion Netanyahu (Bibi's dad). i.e. The Origins of the Inquisition in 15th Century Spain and Don Issac Abravanel. Prof. Benzion Netanyahu's well researched books roundly and soundly support the theory that the Jews of Spain who converted to Christianity did so largely out of convienance and TRUE religious conviction and once they did so were amongst the best Christians that Spain and Latin America has ever known. By and large their descendents don't want to be Jews and are perfectly happy as Christians. So why should they convert to Judaism? With respect to the organizations working to find lost tribes....it is ludricous search fueled by right wing money in order to attempt to populate the West Bank. Thing is that once these "lost tribes" arrive in Israel and they are dumped into the West Bank every effort is made to keep them away from the white Ashkenazi population. In other words its another story of let's find a donkey to do the work for us so that we nice white Ashkenazi Jews can stay all happy and rich in the United States.
17. Sam r married to Linda? if not here's your sign!
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18. kick them out of the country
Intedi Nensak ,   Stockholm, Sweden   (09.28.05)
This is a very serious problem. We're experiencing it in Europe aswell although not in such a large scale, yet. The arabs need to be deported back to Jordan before they overthrow the israeli state. Screw political correctness, it needs to be done if Israel is to survive.
19. Re: post 11
Newt   (09.28.05)
"All the usuals Ahmerican Jews are quiet!" What do you expect? They've been so liberalized in America, that they can't even see how they have turned on their fellow Jews.
20. Re: post 15
Newt   (09.28.05)
"so many Israelis are so racist that they see anything Arabs do as a deadly threat to the state." I notice you live in Chicago....so how can you sit their and say that Israelis are racist? Because Arafat said so? Because the liberal media says so? Because Arab Israelis say so? Try living in fear for your life and the life of your family on a daily basis. Israelis aren't racist.....they just know the difference between reality and fantasy land....somewhere you've been vacationing for far too long. If you've got a problem with Israel wanting to be a Jewish state....TOUGH! You have no say so as to what Israel does....just like I have no say so as to what Saudi Arabia does. You know Saudia Arabia.....the Muslim state. Stick with what you know in Chicago and leave the adult activities to the adults. In other words....keep your nose out of the business of Israelis.
21. Re: post 15
Newt   (09.28.05)
"so many Israelis are so racist that they see anything Arabs do as a deadly threat to the state." I notice you live in Chicago....so how can you sit their and say that Israelis are racist? Because Arafat said so? Because the liberal media says so? Because Arab Israelis say so? Try living in fear for your life and the life of your family on a daily basis. Israelis aren't racist.....they just know the difference between reality and fantasy land....somewhere you've been vacationing for far too long. If you've got a problem with Israel wanting to be a Jewish state....TOUGH! You have no say so as to what Israel does....just like I have no say so as to what Saudi Arabia does. You know Saudia Arabia.....the Muslim state. Stick with what you know in Chicago and leave the adult activities to the adults. In other words....keep your nose out of the business of Israelis.
22. Israel Is My Business
George W ,   Chicago IL   (09.28.05)
Newt; 1. I lived for two years on Hilel Street in Haifa, a few blocks from the Bahai shrine in fact. Haifa is a mixed town and during my time there I hung out in Arab cafes in Wadi Nisnas and the German Colony, had Arab friends, visited their houses, took trips to Arab towns, and so on, in addition to doing my work (which was primarily with Jews). At no point did I ever have the remotest reason to fear for my life. I'm white as can be and was never hassled or treated rudely. This was during 2002 and 2003, the height of the Intifada, so riding the bus was definitely scary. But there's a difference between an Arab sneaking in from Tul Karm with a bomb in order to blow up a bus, versus an Arab from Shfaram riding that same bus to work (who is just as scared of the bomber as anyone else). if you don't care that there's a difference, and choose to suspect every Arab, that's the definition of racism. 2. Fear of Arabs goes deeper than fear of bombers; read the article again and the posts. What's got everyone scared isn't Arab bombers, it's Arab babies. That's racist too. 3. The US gives billions of dollars every year, my tax dollars, to Israel. Whenever we give foreign aid to any other country in the world, it's full of all sorts of restrictions and regulations on what they can and can't do. I don't see why Israel should be any different. If you're going to take my money, then I get a say in how you conduct yourself. Don't like it? Then give me my money back, otherwise shut your mouth.
23. to Sally
Hilda ,   USA   (09.28.05)
You are just spouting left wing nonsense.
24. Hilda, Benzion Netanyahu ain't no left winger!
sally forth ,   Israel   (09.28.05)
25. George u r in Chicago now not on Hillel st Haifa!
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26. George either move back to Israel or pipe down!
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27. Sally is right! where r all the American Jews? here or there
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28. #23 - I see that Hilda the Heretic has returned!
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29. sally--ain't so
sam ,   potomac usa   (09.28.05)
thre are plenty of Ashkenazim on west bank-- most of the west bankers are ahskenazim,most of the spaharadimvote for the right wing parties-- Sally is living in the early 1960s--the ashkenazic sepharidc issue is no longer an issue
30. Do Jews like being minorities? (And RE George)
Uri ,   Ramat Aviv   (09.28.05)
It sure as hell seems like it. Israel is headed down a very frightening path. Already 1/3 of children in Israeli schools are Arab. Ultra-Orthodox Jews are our only hope, they are the only Jews who procreate. Ashkenazis - of whom the vast majority are secular - are literally responsible for this silent Holocaust, both in Israel and out. Israeli Jews have a frightening reality that they will have to wake up to. Or maybe, deep down Jews like being a minority??? George, I'm sorry, but I just can't see how it is racist for Jews (whom can be of any race, including many that are racially Arab) to want to be a majority in their own nation. And, please George, do tell us of your equally harsh observation of Taiwan, Jordan, Egypt, the Palestinians, etc. Who receive aid amounts comparable to that of Israel... and how you appreciate Israel's vast, and worthwhile technological and intelligence contributions to the US, or how the aid goes directly to American products, thus assisting working Americans. I do have a feeling, though, that you don't really care about those other countries, and that you just want to single out the Jewish State.... that would make you an anti-Semite. Anyways, don't you feel you should stop obsessing over some foreign country so feistily whilst your own appears to be in an absolute state of chaos/ruin?
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