'Third intifada almost here'
Ali Waked
Published: 28.09.05, 15:53
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1. 3rd Intifada if so........
Miriam ,   Haifa   (09.28.05)
This time the Palestinians will be taught a lesson they will never forget. This time Israel will only listen to themselves not those that seek to prop up the illigitimate claims and lies of the Palestinians. This time Israel will do exactly what is necessary to put an end to the so-called Palestinian resistance. If indeed we are on the brink of a 3rd Intifada it will be the last one. the end. Watch and see.
2. what else is new?
joe ,   philly, pa.   (09.28.05)
the ocean is the same ocean ,and the arabs are the ame arabs.... like they need a reason/s to start a new uprising.... the 2000 one was in the works monthes before sharon's visit to the temple mount.... and th is upcoming one ,is in the works as we speak. now that the arabs are armed to othe teeth, it will be more "even" playing feild ,and will enable the idf to unleash the power . secondly, great opportunity to transfer all of the west bank arabs back to where they belong-- jordan!
3. as expected
Yisraeli   (09.28.05)
Israel has only enbolded them, gave them strength, gave them weapons, gave them territory, gave them legitamacy, assisted with world recognition, recognised them as a seperate and unique people not as all the surrounding arabs, financed them covertly, showed them cowardice in face of intifada, bombing empty buildings, running from Gush Katif etc. etc. So soon the rule of cause and effect will come about and guess what? whats coming is all of Israels own making no one else. So my dear lefties and even many infantile Likudniks soon we will all 'enjoy' the fruits of your labour, ze mah-she bikashtah ze mah she-tikablu, "peace in our time" where have I heard that before?
4. Dream on
J K ,   NYC   (09.28.05)
Poor Palestinians, still convinced they can have it all and then some? Why negotiate then if they have 0 flexibility? Israel should carve out what it will need to keep itself relatively safe, carve out the centers of highest Arab concentration (bye bye Um Al-Fahm) and deport any Israeli Arab rioters as perpetrators of sedition against the state (what state would tolerate a 5th column?). If they want an intifada still, we can give them a Jewhad that will never forget. OR, they could prove they are sincere in their desire to negotiate (knowing that 100% isnt in the cards) and willing to live at peace with Israel next door. So far they havent even begun to show this. Not to mention the Palestinians still think the onus is on Israel to do more while they do nothing. Newsflash!! The world is waiting for YOU, the Palestinians, to do something and the something you are doing right now is setting your unrealistic expectations back even further.
Yishai Kohen ,   YeShA, Israel   (09.28.05)
Israel has proven that force beats any Intifada, and that every time the Philistines start one, THEY end up suffering more. We learned how to handle them in this past Intifada. ONLY force works. If they want to choose bullets over bread, let them. We will feed them bullets.
6. So what else is new?
Dan ,   Nashville, TN   (09.28.05)
These people are addicted to violence the way a drug addict is addicted to his habit. They will kill for any excuse at all or for no excuse. Even if the nightmare of acheiving the goal of liquidating Israel were to come true, they would not stop the violence. Note how the killing continued in Afghanistan even after the Soviets were expelled. I hope Israel takes strong pre-emptive action now to mute such talk.
7. Dream on
barry ,   tokyo   (09.28.05)
These Palestinians are like alcoholics in denial. They need to receive a severe "intervention" which will make them understand, however hard it may be, that they don't stand a chance. The IDF needs to hone in this message with a prolonged, relentless "intifada" of their own, a kind never seen before. This, it seems, is already starting to happen. Unfortunately, the Arab culture even in the 21st century only repsects brute force, not reason.
8. So be it
Inyaki ,   Bilbao   (09.28.05)
OK, the this is one's right to start another intifada. But what if Palestinian assesment is wrong ( as usual- wishful thinkin')? Then they will find out exactly as whether Israel has withdrown because of intifada or for some better reason. Maybe it will do good for them to know it. I am sure Ariel Sharon will thank them for this great favour.
9. Believe it!
Chrisona ,   Chicago.IL   (09.28.05)
Sure, there's going to be a renewed intifada. Maybe they call it the fence intifada, but I call it the pullout intifada. Sharon's brutal expulsion of Israeli settlers from Gaza has inspirited the terrorists for a long time to come.
10. arrogance of the pathological liars
Malachai Opposum ,   U.S.   (09.28.05)
What many supporters of Israel do not seem to understand is that the UN, the EU, and to a lesser degree, the US, will never allow Israel to do what it must do to defeat the terrorists. All the bravado in the world won't work if the UN decides to impose sanctions on the Jewish State and the US goes along with the UN. So Israel has to resort to half-hearted measures to limit terrorism- instead of defeating it. After all, oil and inbred antisemitism speak louder than what is right. What is so pathetic is that the world sees that Israel, despite withdrawing from Gaza is still being attacked by rockets launched by Hamas and Islamic Jihad and the Palestinian Authority refuses to stop the terrorists. Yet, Palestinian authorities, Mubarek, etc blame Israel for trying to defend its people. At the same time, the horrific jew-haters of the Presbyterian church and other so-called progressive Protestant denominations vote to divest from companies doing business with Israel despite the Gaza withdrawal. In other words, no conscience, a sense of entitlement, to do what they want to do, more of the same kind of lying that was so evident during Oslo, and the craziness about Israel destroying the "peace process". This behavior, along with lynchings of Palestinian moderates are the symptoms of a society that is fanatically sociopathic.
11. Bring it on...
Yosef ,   Jerusalem   (09.28.05)
Not a suprise, give the baby some candy and they just want more and more. Should this be their plan of action the government should simply reply by show of force and resond without restraint. No other country in the world would allow a situation like this, it's about time we put our foot down too.
12. Who is really talking anyway?
Gush Etzion   (09.28.05)
have only one thing to look after, that’s themselves. By oppressing their own people and making them live of fear to speak out against brutality and corruption, they are put ting themselves in a bad situation. How can one oppress a whole people while still maintaining their thrown? Natan Shiranski writes in “A Case for Democracy" that these 'fear' states must create an external enemy. This enemy will do two things at ones; blame the oppression on them and at the same time building a cohesiveness of the people and the dictator. Please read this book, it will open up the doors to reality. The PLO needs to dismantle the terrorist groups followed by the worlds dismantling of the PLO. If all else fails, Israel the democracy that it is (well, in comparison) needs to protect itself like a dictator, with a steel fist. A third intifada will ensure an end to the refuge camps in Israel and the beginning of refuge camps in Jordan.
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (09.28.05)
ISRAEL OFFERED UP AS 2ND CZECHOSLOVAKIA The United States, the EU, and the UN are fully aware that the goal of the Palestinian Authority and other terrorist groups is total annihilation of Israel. An Islamic terror state in the Jewish Holy Land enables that goal. See part of an article below: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 Islamic Jihad says all Palestinians united Leader says total annihilation of Israel joint strategy © 2005 "In a news conference in Damascus, the leader of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad today boasted all Palestinian groups remain united in the goal of annihilating the Jewish state of Israel. With Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Ahmed Qureia looking on, Ramazan Abdullah, secretary general of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, said the Palestinian Authority and all Palestinian movements have reached agreement on a joint strategy after Israel's evacuation of the Gaza Strip. "This war would continue till full liberation of Palestine, restoration of the denied rights of the whole Palestinian nation and briefly speaking uprooting of the usurper Israeli regime," he said, according to a translation by the official Iranian Islamic Republic News Agency..." The vile Jew-hating, hostile actions of the U.S. to Israel, our trustworthy ally and dear friend, is against everything the U.S. has ever stood for, and against everthing Americans believe in: freedom, justice, human rights, and the belief that we are all created equal. Unless the U.S. EU and UN reverse their horrifying anti-Jew, anti-Israel policies, it will be evident that the U.S. EU and UN have taken their stand with the terrorists against innocents.
14. Withdrawal from Gaza - the end of Jihad and Hamas !
Michael ,   tel aviv   (09.28.05)
What nonsense is being talked about Gaza and Israel being driven out ?! Israel wanted to give it to Egypt when they signed their peace treaty and Egypt very correctly didn't want it. Israeli politicians joked between themselves, 'we're giving them Gaza' - 'oh really and what are they getting in return'. Today Jihad, Hamas and the other groups who are on their knees begging for a cease fire after only a few days of Israeli actions have finally understood what the withdrawal means to them. Their end !
15. We Told You So...
Eric ,   Boulder, CO, USA   (09.28.05)
Ariel Sharon and the rest of the exhilers, we told you so. We said if you threw people out of Gush Katif and the rest of Gaza, that the rockets would just be closer. They have fired the rockets and now they threaten this! If this happens, we have to hit back, hard.
16. There will be no 3rd Intifada....
Hiram ,   Back in Tel Aviv   (09.28.05)
As simple as that...The Egyptians will provide PA with assistance to quell internal strifing. A few more " endoctrinated and hateful" Palestinian leaders will join their predecessors, and the election will see the PA in control. Regardless of what UN may do or ...not do ( we have recent exemple of their laxism and inability to represent a real power), Israelwill take in due time the course of action to protect its territory and above all its people... Threats by Arabs are only threats... A barking dog never bites....I would be more worried if they did not threaten us and the world of "action". We are facing a bunch of uneducated terrorist who are in additiona jealous of Jewish success..They have received quite a lot of funds in the last few years..certainly enough to tunr their land in a respectable place...where is it today ? What realization have they accomplished ?
17. Shell palestinian's areas with NO mercy !!!
Yair ,   Israel   (09.28.05)
18. 3rd intifada
Kenneth Sikorski ,   Suolahti, Finland   (09.28.05)
Yeah, it'll happen, but this time around it'll be matched by a more powerful 'Israeli intifada.' Come next Spring, the Arabs will start it all over again, but only to be defeated once again.
20. Just Chasing Their Tails.
Andy ,   Amsterdam   (09.28.05)
They say the next intafada will be because of the security fence and all their imprisoned colleagues, but both of these are a result of the second intafada. In otherwords the Palestinians are just chasing their tails trying to recover what they lost each time due to their own ineptitude. This is true of a State in 1948, the territories in 1967, and now the fence, and probably Gaza again very soon. The question is what will they lose after a third intafada will which justify a fourth one?
21. please read very carefully
to salameh from gaza   (09.28.05)
dear Salameh from Gaza, Palestine: here's the situation and really try to understand it well. Israel did not flee from Gaza. Israel reshuffled the cards resulting from new facts on the ground, new realities. Israel redeployed more than 20,000 troops used to protect 8,000 Jews who lived in a cesspool you call home. The Jews made this cesspool green and flourish, something you are not very good at. what you and your people are good at is destruction, hatred, honor killings, and wanton chaos. you prove this over and over to the world. have no illusions, salameh - there are new facts on the ground. your neighbor and friend, mr. al zahar will die very soon. he will be hunted down thanks to a cocktail of superior technology that allows Israel to monitor every move you, al zahar, al hindi, mohammed deif and every other hateful individual make -- along with your very own collaborators. you have one last opportunity to make your cesspool work. no jewish settlers or IDF soldiers inside. billions of dollars from the world waiting to help you turn your cesspool into a better place. should you screw up this opportunity like your father and grandfather did then your children will forever pee in their pants in fear from the booms over your head. it will be merciless and constant. you will beg for the pounding to stop but it will be to late. and here's the kicker ... if you think the State of Israel will not use their might on your brothers and their children in the west bank you are mistaken. you will slowly cook in your cesspool soup because the majority of Israeli are beginning to get used to the fact that the disegagement is behind us and if you screw up we will hurt you very very very very much because we can and like you, who have established new facts on the ground via your suicide bombings, aviation terror and other forms of millenia muslim madness.... there is in fact a way to pound you and make your women and children pee from fear if you continue to be stupid and attack Israel. these are not fighting words, Salameh. only the facts in a new chapter of world realpolitik that the author is Ariel Sharon. You see, the general who knows how to win wars and beat you each time finally figured how to do so after a hiatus. no Jew will be packing his bag to flee ever again. spread the word in your neighborhoods. and tell al zahar to stay in a tunnel somewhere you and perhaps some of your friends won't have to eat some shrappnel. you will not succeed at making Israeli flee as you see it ever again, the only ones fleeing will be you and your people who will constantly be on the run trying to escape the sonic booms who you have brought upon yourselves by acts of stupidity. oh yes, you will also succeed at making the world donors forget about giving you a few billion.....
22. The Israeli Gov't Will Only Eradicate Them When.....
Adina kutnicki ,   Nj, US   (09.29.05)
Them's are fighting words from the PA/PLO/Hamas/PIJ terror heads. The issue isn't whether Israel can crush them once and for all. The issue is - do they want to? Of course there will be another intifada, and of course it will be more extreme. The Israeli "leadership" created those conditions by leaving the Philadelphia Route wide open to massive flows of infinitely more lethal weapons. Has anyone considered the depravity of this situation - Many, many IDF soldiers died trying to stop the weapons flow. In one fell swoop the gov't not only erased all their efforts and sacrifices, but allowed ! it to get much worse. I suspect once Herziliyah or another fancy suburb is hit the immoral self appointed "elites" will smack down on the terror fiends.
23. How soon they forget
David Middlemiss ,   USA   (09.29.05)
After 4000 arabs have been killed, tens of thousands injured, and 8 thousand jailed, they brag that they drove the Israelis from Gaza. All this for something that Barak was willing to hand over anyway, along with 97% of the west bank and portions of east Jerusalem.
24. addicted to violence
Shilah ,   Hibbing, USA   (09.29.05)
so true. A son (perhaps grandson -- I forget exactly) of Ghandi -- yes, THE Ghandi -- visited ISrael; later he said "the Palestinians will not have peace because they don't want it bad enough to take the nonviolent route, as India did to gain her independence. The Pakestinians love violence too much." How very sad.
25. "kindness" = weakness, to Arabs
Shilah ,   Hibbing, USA   (09.29.05)
"unfortunately, the Arab culture, even in the 21st century, only respects brute force, not reason." Too true! They view "restraint" and respect as evidence of weakness; they think weak people are unfit to live. Therefore the Palestinians must be conquered; they themselves leave the Israelis no choice.
26. what will they DO with it ?
Shilah ,   Minnesota   (09.29.05)
When WILL the Palestinians build a country ?? That's what I've been waiting all my life to see. What will they do with the Gush Katif communities they have inherited? They don't build schools; they build bombs. They don't build hospitals; they do build missles. They don't teach respect; they do teach their children hatred. They don't encourage healthy, loving families; they do encourage suicide as a viable career choice.Honestly, why does the world think these people want a country? They destroy everything they get hold of. I'd love to see even PART of Gaza running as a very small but healthy nation, with productive citizens, contributing to the world. Before they are given more land, I want to see them use the land they already have, in a responsible manner. If they are capable of that.
27. Why don't they try and take it back?
David Joshua ,   New York, New York   (09.29.05)
All politics aside, if I lost my wallet 38 years ago I would not still be looking for it. Somehow the Palestinians forgot that if you want to take something back then you have to fight for it. Until now all I have seen is primitive and senseless attemps to get there so called land back. Why they just stand up and try and take it back? They know they would lose, so why are the still complaining when they know they dont stand a chance at getting it back? If I were them I would settle down and try and assimilate and restistance is futile.
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (09.29.05)
IGNORING AL-QAIDA IN GAZA.AL-QAIDA NUKES ALREADY IN U.S. The following is an excerpt from sermon by Sheik Ibrahim Mudeiris, May 13 2005 on Palestinian Authority TV (transcribed by Memri TV monitor): We have ruled the world before, and by Allah, the day will come when we will rule the entire world again. The day will come when we will rule America. The day will come when we will rule Britain and the entire world - except for the Jews. The Jews will not enjoy a life of tranquility under our rule...The day will come when everything will be relieved of the Jews. The stones and trees will want the Muslims to finish off every Jew." July 11 2005 ‘Al-Qaida nukes already in U.S.’ ‘Terrorists, bombs smuggled across Mexico border by MS-13 gangsters’ “According to captured al-Qaida leaders and documents, the plan is called the “American Hiroshima” and involves the multiple detonation of nuclear weapons already smuggled into the U.S over the Mexican border. Al-Qaida has obtained at least 40 nuclear weapons from the former Soviet Union - including suitcase nukes, nuclear mines, artillery shells and even some missile warheads. The plans for the devastating nuclear attack on the U.S. have been under development for more than a decade. It is designed as a final deadly blow of defeat to the U.S…thousands of al-Qaida sleeper agents have now been forward deployed into the U.S. to carry out their individual roles in the coming “American Hiroshima” plan. The future plan, suggests the attacks will take place simultaneously in major cities throughout the country - including New York, Boston, Washington, Las Vegas, Miami, Chicago and Los Angeles…” G8 leaders have promised nine billion dollars to the Palestinian Authority over the next three years. TAX DOLLARS THAT SHOULD GO FOR THE IMMEDIATE BUILDING OF BOMB SHELTERS! July 8 2005 ‘From London to Gaza’ by David Bedein: “In recent weeks, American, British and Israeli intelligence sources have revealed that al-Qaida units now operate in the southern section of Gaza, and are positioned to take over the area that Israeli Defense Forces would vacate, if the proposed retreat plan is indeed carried out by the Israel government…” Gaza is to be transformed into Hamastan - the largest terror base in the Middle East with its own airport and seaport - and al-Qaida - a major threat to the entire world., July 18 2005 ‘Al-Qaida’s U.S. nuclear targets’ “The series of attacks is designed to kill 4 million, destroy the economy and fundamentally alter the course of history. New York and Washington top the preferred target list for al-Qaida leadership. The captured terrorists and documents also suggest smaller attacks may take place on American soil before the nuclear incidents. They may include some involving automatic weapons at schools and shopping malls. Another requirement dictated from the top at al-Qaida is that the attacks take place in daylight, so that the whole word will be able to see the images of a mushroom cloud over an American city…”
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (09.29.05)
The planned third intifada is part of global jihad. Below is part of an article To view this item online, visit Sunday, August 21, 2005 FAITH UNDER FIRE Islamic radicals demand guilty verdict for Christians Women on trial for teaching Bible to children with permission of parents Posted: August 21, 2005 1:00 a.m. Eastern By John M. Lindner © 2005 Assist News Service "Islamic radicals are in no way concealing their agenda as they campaign for a guilty verdict in a court case involving three Christian women accused of "Christianizing" Muslim children in Indonesia. An Indonesian correspondent known only as Ibrahim B. says their agenda is spelled out in an Indonesian-language book with an English title, "Jihad and the Foreign Policy of the Khilafah State." Ibrahim told Assist News Service the book is freely available in Indonesian bookstores and "teaches a vision of aggressive and violent jihad to establish an Islamic caliphate, and from there to launch jihad against other nations to bring them into the Islamic Empire." "This is the new imperialism and the new colonialism my country is facing, and it is evident in the militant mujahideen who gather at the court in Indramayu each week to demand the death of three accused housewives who cared enough about children to try and save them from a future in prostitution," he said. According to Ibrahim, "The radicals want Indonesia to be the foundation of a Southeast Asian caliphate that will launch jihad against other nations such as Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, the Philippines, Australia and Papua New Guinea until they have all submitted to Islam." To achieve this vision, he said, "all pockets of resistance must be subdued. This is why there..."
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (09.29.05) January 29 2005 'Report: Saudis spread hate through U.S. mosques' 'Propaganda against Jews, Christians mainstreamed within our borders' "89-page report by Freedom House. Saudi Publications on Hate Ideology Fill American Mosques. Saudi government propaganda reflects a TOTALITARIAN IDEOLOGY OF HATRED THAT CAN INCITE TO VIOLENCE...mainstreamed within our borders through the efforts of a foreign government, namely Saudi Arabia. Various Saudi government publications assert it is a RELIGIOUS OBLIGATION FOR MUSLIMS TO HATE CHRISTIANS AND JEWS. The documents stress when Muslims are in the lands of the unbelievers, they must behave as if on a MISSION BEHIND ENEMY LINES. Either there to acquire new knowledge and make money to be later EMPLOYED IN THE JIHAD AGAINST THE INFIDELS..." Over two millions Christians including Animists are dead from Sudan's jihad. Hundreds of thousands of Christians have been taken for slaves by Sudan's Muslims. June 11 2005 'Nigeria's war on Christians' 'Islamic law brings, death, suffering to non-Muslims' "More than 10,000 Christians have been killed since 1999, the year Islamic Sharia law was introduced in Nigeria. Nearly 1,000 homes and churches have been burned down by Muslim radicals - with a wink and a nod from A GOVERNMENT THAT DOESN'T RECOGNIZE THE RIGHTS OF NON-MUSLIMS."
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