"The US would like to see..." I mean honestly, do they think Israel wouldnt like to see a peaceful people putting together the makings of a country and have someone to talk to who they can negotiate with and end all this madness?
Why push Israel to do more if not reciprocal steps are being taken on the other side? While the US has to live in the world, they do not have to live in Israel and deal with the consequences of the Palestinians not getting their s-it together in a daily basis.
Israel and Americas macro goals are the same, but while America believes one sided concessions on Israel's side will lead to the Palestinians good will...it just goes to show they do not understand the mentality on the other side that belives they will get 100% of what they want, and Israel 0%. Not gonna happen.
THEN get back to us and tell us what we will do with OUR land.
Anyone that thought Hitnatkut 2005 was a one off is naive.
ROAD MAP OF WICKED JEW HATE DESTROYS JEWS' HUMAN
22 HUGE, OIL-WEALTHY Arab states cover over six
million square miles, over ten percent of the land
surface of earth. TINY, over-crowded Israel, only one
tenth of one percent of the Middle East.
Desiring another Islamic state in Israel, America is
breaking U.S. laws which make it illegal to
discriminate based on race or religion. Demanding
forcible removal of Jews from the Jewish homeland
based on race-Jews and RELIGION-JUDAISM.
Making Jews jobless and homeless for implacable
enemies, Israel destroyed the homes of about 9000 Jews
in Gaza and north Samaria. Homes for which the Jews
must still pay mortgages for. Thousands of Jewish
greenhouses and 325 Jewish farms built on land that
NEVER belonged to Arabs were given as gifts to wealthy
Palestinian Authority terrorist organization. Muslim
mobs destroyed synagogues, Hamas flags flying from
synagogue roofs as synagogues burned. A huge victory
for global jihad, Islamists, and every Jew-hater on
the planet. World leaders congratulated Sharon for
The U.S. EU, and UN, not satisfied, cruelly demand
more Jew cleansing from Judea and Samaria, to make
hundreds of thousands of Jews jobless and homeless,
greatly exacerbating Israeli Jews' dire poverty and
joblessness. Creating a massive economic and human
crisis. AND MASSIVELY DESTROYING ISRAEL'S SECURITY.
A most dangerous precedent is being established that
Jews in other countries and other NON-MUSLIM people
groups will suffer the same horrendous human rights
violations as Israel’s Jews.
Does the U.S. government plan to eliminate the laws
which make it illegal to discriminate based on race or
religion? Or, does the U.S. government plan to add a
clause stating THE LAW DOES NOT APPLY TO JEWS?
Oslo-Road Map ruthlessly destroyed the human rights of
Christians who suffer horrific persecution under the
cruel occupation of PLO/PA.
The following is from: 'Christianity Dying In Its
Birthplace' By Daniel Pipes
FrontPageMagazine.com | September 13, 2005
“Almost every day – I repeat, almost every day – our
communities are harassed by the Islamic extremists in
these regions,” Pizzaballa says. “And if it’s not the
members of Hamas or Islamic Jihad, there are clashes
with … the Palestinian Authority.” In addition to the
Islamists, a “Muslim land mafia” is said to operate.
With PA complicity. it threatens Christian land and
house owners, often succeeding to compel them to
abandon their properties.
The campaign of persecution has succeeded. Even as the
Christian population of Israel grows, that of the
Palestinian Authority shrinks precipitously. Bethlehem
and Nazareth, historic Christian towns for nearly two
millennia, are now primarily Muslim. In 1922,
Christians outnumbered Muslims in Jerusalem; today,
Christians amount to a mere 2 percent of that city’s
This MASSIVE ATTACK ON JUDAISM AND CHRISTIANITY by the
Quartet-U.S. EU, UN and Russia, has ominous
implications for every Jew and Christian on earth.
Where are the human rights organizations???
In 1922, Britain, illegally gave Arabs MOST OF
PALESTINE-80%. The area became Jordan, giving Arabs
an Arab Palestinian state on Jewish land. IT WAS
ETHNICALLY CLEANSED OF JEWS. This area is part of
ancient, Biblical Israel, and along with present-day
Israel, including Judea, Samaria, Gaza, and the Golan,
was recognized by the League of Nations as the Jewish
All Palestinian Authority maps show the new State of
Palestine covering ALL Israel, with ALL Jerusalem as
their capital. Israel, Holy Land of Jews and
Christians is the greatest prize in the global jihad.
Why would Americans think they're in charge of Israel's future boundaries? Is it because Sharon is kowtowing to them? Let's face it; Sharon has put them in charge.
# 3 this is Palestinian land boy. You need to wake up from your dreams
# 6 it is so simple. America pays israels bills. If they stop , there will be no Israel Don't you know that ????
WHAT ABOUT HEZBOLLAH,
Fatah, , ISLAMIC JIHAD, AL QAEDA,AND PFLP?
A) The only dreamer here is you as you dream you will get 100% and Israel nothing. Israel knows they wont get 100%, but they wont get 0% either AND the desire peace. You, my friend, are the one who needs to awake.
B) If America didnt "pay Israel's bills" then someone else like China and other countries would do it. (not too good a strategic choice for the USA). Also, much of the $2B in American aid winds up back in America via commerce. More than you can say for the black hole of the PA where you can see the aid in the villas and fancy cars.
C) Palestinians will be 'free' once they turn on the radicals, build a functioning society and negotiate with Israel. Qassam rockets make for bad diplomacy and more dead Palestinians. Pass that on to your brothers, cuz.
There is a big debate in Israel about whether Israel should continue to accept US aid. Sorry to burst your bubble, Abu Zaid, but Israel would continue just fine without US aid and Israel would not look to any other country such as China for aid, J K (though I suspect that it would have an easier time with its military technology sales to China with less US say in the matter).
ISRAEL OFFERED UP AS 2ND CZECHOSLOVAKIA
The United States, the EU, and the UN are fully aware
that the goal of the Palestinian Authority and other
terrorist groups is total annihilation of Israel.
An Islamic terror state in the Jewish Holy Land
enables that goal. See part of an article below:
Tuesday, August 23, 2005
Islamic Jihad says all Palestinians united
Leader says total annihilation of Israel joint
© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com
"In a news conference in Damascus, the leader of the
Palestinian Islamic Jihad today boasted all
Palestinian groups remain united in the goal of
annihilating the Jewish state of Israel.
With Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Ahmed Qureia
looking on, Ramazan Abdullah, secretary general of the
Palestinian Islamic Jihad, said the Palestinian
Authority and all Palestinian movements have reached
agreement on a joint strategy after Israel's
evacuation of the Gaza Strip.
"This war would continue till full liberation of
Palestine, restoration of the denied rights of the
whole Palestinian nation and briefly speaking
uprooting of the usurper Israeli regime," he said,
according to a translation by the official Iranian
Islamic Republic News Agency..."
The vile Jew-hating, hostile actions of the U.S. to
Israel, our trustworthy ally and dear friend, is
against everything the U.S. has ever stood for, and
against everthing Americans believe in: freedom,
justice, human rights, and the belief that we are all
Unless the U.S. EU and UN reverse their horrifying
anti-Jew, anti-Israel policies, it will be evident
that the U.S. EU and UN have taken their stand with
the terrorists against innocents.
I would ask you, Abu Zaid, how the $300 million plus Aid package approved by the IMF will improve his lot and that of other Palestinians. Has he considered working diligently on insuring that international support (and subsidization of legitimate and practical Palestinian aspirations)achieves positive results?
I would plead with Abu Zaid not to concentrate on his 'external enemy' (Israel); rather, to use every ounce of his energy and intelligence to promote the well-being of his fellow Palestinians. Only then will he have his "Free Palestine".
Till he is decisively pushed by the Quartet. For Bush the situation is improving to play other cards. White house is being cleaned up and Bush will be happy about it in the long run. Sharon and his gang are nothing but criminals like the illegal settlers. For Russell, Israel is the size of New Jersey and nearly the same economy. It needs the U.S dollars every year that is why it requested 2.2 bilion for Negev and Galilee and gets $5.25 billion every year from the U.S. and cannot survive without the U.S military support and money. Swallow your "pride" my zionist "friends".
My deepest apologies to the people of Israel.
America doesn't pay Israels bills you hypocritical moron. Tell me, where the hell is all of the money that American tax payers have been shelling out to the Palestinians? Some fat lady who married the criminal Arafat is living off of it in Paris.
What a joke ,as lie all this garbage about freedom as the U.S. dictates what once sovereign Israel MUST do !
What arrogance ,the pride of hell dictates to Israel what she must do while giving lip service to the terrorists whose unchanged goal is Israel's destruction. If you think Hurricaner Katrina & Rita slappped the arrogant pompous fools in Washington silly,you ain't seen nothin yet. Pride goes before destruction,America
Well, Sally boy, before you point fingers, the Palestinians havent even held to one clause in the Road Map for the last 10 years. How hard is it to stop shooting and to stop sending bombers to murder women and children. We dont like Hamas and you shouldnt either. They keep the Palestinian people down. How about holding to the 1st clause in the roadmap that calls for the Palestinians to take the guns away from the illegal terror groups waging an illegal and immoral 5 year terror war against Israel. Israel just pulled out ot Gaza.....what have you done for me lately?
I like Assad. He has a nice long neck, easy access for chopping off his head.
Shortly after the 1967 Six Day War, the American Joint Chiefs of Staff submitted their report requested by the U.S. government. Their report stated ISRAEL CAN ONLY BE DEFENSIBLE IF IT RETAINS JUDEA, SAMARIA, GAZA AND THE GOLAN.
Even at the height of the Intifadah with defense costs high to combat terrorism Israel is self sustainable. Nice try though, Sal.
See article below...
Israel could cope with its worst recession in 50 years without US aid, the International Monetary Fund has said in its annual report on the country.
"It is clear that the US aid will help, particularly in containing the fiscal deficit and stabilising the economy," IMF European Assistant Director Masahiko Takeda said.
"But the Finance Ministry is ready to cope with the situation without counting on US aid," he added.
Israel's economy has been battered by the global slowdown, hi-tech slump and a two-year Palestinian uprising that has scared off tourists, slashed revenues and sent defence costs soaring.
"We see considerable risk that revenue (next year) will fall short of the budgeted amount," the report said.
Israel is reportedly seeking $8bn (£5.1bn) in loan guarantees and $4bn in defence and other grants over 10 years from the US, the IMF's biggest shareholder.
Cutting interest rates
Israel is expected to overshoot its 3.9% budget deficit target substantially this year.
Mr Takeda said the government should address the causes of the deficit rather than relying on US aid to plug the gap.
In unusually direct advice to Israel's central bank, the Fund called on the Bank of Israel to use "every opportunity" to cut interest rates from 9.1%.
It also criticised what appeared to be a politically inspired 2 percentage point rate cut last December, which it said led to a sharp depreciation of the shekel, a surge in inflation and a threat to financial stability.
The IMF said it was confident the government was committed to pushing through the budget, due by 31 December, without compromising on spending cuts.
Disagreements about funding for Jewish settlements in the West Bank and Gaza Strip led to the dissolution of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's government in November.
Elections are due to be held on 28 January.
It'a all a big Arab lie!
The Palestinian Authority are openly genocidal.
The following is an excerpt from sermon by Sheik
Ibrahim Mudeiris, May 13 2005 on Palestinian Authority
TV (transcribed by Memri TV monitor):
"We have ruled the world before, and by Allah, the day
will come when we will rule the entire world again.
The day will come when we will rule America. The day
will come when we will rule Britain and the entire
world - except for the Jews. The Jews will not enjoy a
life of tranquility under our rule...The day will come
when everything will be relieved of the Jews. The
stones and trees will want the Muslims to finish off
worldnetdaily.com July 11 2005 ‘Al-Qaida nukes already
in U.S.’ ‘Terrorists, bombs smuggled across Mexico
border by MS-13 gangsters’ “According to captured
al-Qaida leaders and documents, the plan is called the
“American Hiroshima” and involves the multiple
detonation of nuclear weapons already smuggled into
the U.S over the Mexican border. Al-Qaida has obtained
at least 40 nuclear weapons from the former Soviet
Union - including suitcase nukes, nuclear mines,
artillery shells and even some missile warheads. The
plans for the devastating nuclear attack on the U.S.
have been under development for more than a decade. It
is designed as a final deadly blow of defeat to the
U.S…thousands of al-Qaida sleeper agents have now been
forward deployed into the U.S. to carry out their
individual roles in the coming “American Hiroshima”
plan. The future plan, suggests the attacks will take
place simultaneously in major cities throughout the
country - including New York, Boston, Washington, Las
Vegas, Miami, Chicago and Los Angeles…”
G8 leaders have promised nine billion dollars to the
Palestinian Authority over the next three years. TAX
DOLLARS THAT SHOULD GO FOR THE IMMEDIATE BUILDING OF
Israelinsider.com July 8 2005 ‘From London to Gaza’ by
David Bedein: “In recent weeks, American, British and
Israeli intelligence sources have revealed that
al-Qaida units now operate in the southern section of
Gaza, and are positioned to take over the area that
Israeli Defense Forces would vacate, if the proposed
retreat plan is indeed carried out by the Israel
Gaza is to be transformed into Hamastan, the largest
terror base in the Middle East with its own airport
and seaport and al-Qaida, a major threat to the
worldnetdaily.com, July 18 2005 ‘Al-Qaida’s U.S.
nuclear targets’ “The series of attacks is designed to
kill 4 million, destroy the economy and fundamentally
alter the course of history. New York and Washington
top the preferred target list for al-Qaida leadership.
The captured terrorists and documents also suggest
smaller attacks may take place on American soil before
the nuclear incidents. They may include some involving
automatic weapons at schools and shopping malls.
Another requirement dictated from the top at al-Qaida
is that the attacks take place in daylight, so that
the whole word will be able to see the images of a
mushroom cloud over an American city…”