U.S. officials: Gaza exit not last
Roee Nahmias
Published: 30.09.05, 15:11
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1. Come on
J K ,   NYC, USA   (09.30.05)
"The US would like to see..." I mean honestly, do they think Israel wouldnt like to see a peaceful people putting together the makings of a country and have someone to talk to who they can negotiate with and end all this madness? Why push Israel to do more if not reciprocal steps are being taken on the other side? While the US has to live in the world, they do not have to live in Israel and deal with the consequences of the Palestinians not getting their s-it together in a daily basis. Israel and Americas macro goals are the same, but while America believes one sided concessions on Israel's side will lead to the Palestinians good just goes to show they do not understand the mentality on the other side that belives they will get 100% of what they want, and Israel 0%. Not gonna happen.
3. First, You Can Give Al-Qaida Part Of YOUR Land
Yishai Kohen ,   YeShA, Israel   (09.30.05)
THEN get back to us and tell us what we will do with OUR land.
4. Futher Withdrawals
Yosef ,   Jeruslalem   (09.30.05)
Anyone that thought Hitnatkut 2005 was a one off is naive.
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (09.30.05)
ROAD MAP OF WICKED JEW HATE DESTROYS JEWS' HUMAN RIGHTS 22 HUGE, OIL-WEALTHY Arab states cover over six million square miles, over ten percent of the land surface of earth. TINY, over-crowded Israel, only one tenth of one percent of the Middle East. Desiring another Islamic state in Israel, America is breaking U.S. laws which make it illegal to discriminate based on race or religion. Demanding forcible removal of Jews from the Jewish homeland based on race-Jews and RELIGION-JUDAISM. Making Jews jobless and homeless for implacable enemies, Israel destroyed the homes of about 9000 Jews in Gaza and north Samaria. Homes for which the Jews must still pay mortgages for. Thousands of Jewish greenhouses and 325 Jewish farms built on land that NEVER belonged to Arabs were given as gifts to wealthy Palestinian Authority terrorist organization. Muslim mobs destroyed synagogues, Hamas flags flying from synagogue roofs as synagogues burned. A huge victory for global jihad, Islamists, and every Jew-hater on the planet. World leaders congratulated Sharon for this ruthlessness. The U.S. EU, and UN, not satisfied, cruelly demand more Jew cleansing from Judea and Samaria, to make hundreds of thousands of Jews jobless and homeless, greatly exacerbating Israeli Jews' dire poverty and joblessness. Creating a massive economic and human crisis. AND MASSIVELY DESTROYING ISRAEL'S SECURITY. A most dangerous precedent is being established that Jews in other countries and other NON-MUSLIM people groups will suffer the same horrendous human rights violations as Israel’s Jews. Does the U.S. government plan to eliminate the laws which make it illegal to discriminate based on race or religion? Or, does the U.S. government plan to add a clause stating THE LAW DOES NOT APPLY TO JEWS? Oslo-Road Map ruthlessly destroyed the human rights of Christians who suffer horrific persecution under the cruel occupation of PLO/PA. The following is from: 'Christianity Dying In Its Birthplace' By Daniel Pipes | September 13, 2005 “Almost every day – I repeat, almost every day – our communities are harassed by the Islamic extremists in these regions,” Pizzaballa says. “And if it’s not the members of Hamas or Islamic Jihad, there are clashes with … the Palestinian Authority.” In addition to the Islamists, a “Muslim land mafia” is said to operate. With PA complicity. it threatens Christian land and house owners, often succeeding to compel them to abandon their properties. The campaign of persecution has succeeded. Even as the Christian population of Israel grows, that of the Palestinian Authority shrinks precipitously. Bethlehem and Nazareth, historic Christian towns for nearly two millennia, are now primarily Muslim. In 1922, Christians outnumbered Muslims in Jerusalem; today, Christians amount to a mere 2 percent of that city’s population." This MASSIVE ATTACK ON JUDAISM AND CHRISTIANITY by the Quartet-U.S. EU, UN and Russia, has ominous implications for every Jew and Christian on earth. Where are the human rights organizations??? In 1922, Britain, illegally gave Arabs MOST OF PALESTINE-80%. The area became Jordan, giving Arabs an Arab Palestinian state on Jewish land. IT WAS ETHNICALLY CLEANSED OF JEWS. This area is part of ancient, Biblical Israel, and along with present-day Israel, including Judea, Samaria, Gaza, and the Golan, was recognized by the League of Nations as the Jewish homeland. All Palestinian Authority maps show the new State of Palestine covering ALL Israel, with ALL Jerusalem as their capital. Israel, Holy Land of Jews and Christians is the greatest prize in the global jihad.
6. Their confident tone
Chrisona ,   Chicago.IL   (09.30.05)
Why would Americans think they're in charge of Israel's future boundaries? Is it because Sharon is kowtowing to them? Let's face it; Sharon has put them in charge.
7. #3 and #6
Abu Zaid ,   Jerusalem   (09.30.05)
# 3 this is Palestinian land boy. You need to wake up from your dreams # 6 it is so simple. America pays israels bills. If they stop , there will be no Israel Don't you know that ???? Free Palestine
Mark ,   United States   (09.30.05)
9. #7
J K ,   NYC, USA   (09.30.05)
A) The only dreamer here is you as you dream you will get 100% and Israel nothing. Israel knows they wont get 100%, but they wont get 0% either AND the desire peace. You, my friend, are the one who needs to awake. B) If America didnt "pay Israel's bills" then someone else like China and other countries would do it. (not too good a strategic choice for the USA). Also, much of the $2B in American aid winds up back in America via commerce. More than you can say for the black hole of the PA where you can see the aid in the villas and fancy cars. C) Palestinians will be 'free' once they turn on the radicals, build a functioning society and negotiate with Israel. Qassam rockets make for bad diplomacy and more dead Palestinians. Pass that on to your brothers, cuz.
11. #7 and #9 - US financial support for Israel
Russell ,   Miami   (09.30.05)
There is a big debate in Israel about whether Israel should continue to accept US aid. Sorry to burst your bubble, Abu Zaid, but Israel would continue just fine without US aid and Israel would not look to any other country such as China for aid, J K (though I suspect that it would have an easier time with its military technology sales to China with less US say in the matter).
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (09.30.05)
ISRAEL OFFERED UP AS 2ND CZECHOSLOVAKIA The United States, the EU, and the UN are fully aware that the goal of the Palestinian Authority and other terrorist groups is total annihilation of Israel. An Islamic terror state in the Jewish Holy Land enables that goal. See part of an article below: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 Islamic Jihad says all Palestinians united Leader says total annihilation of Israel joint strategy © 2005 "In a news conference in Damascus, the leader of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad today boasted all Palestinian groups remain united in the goal of annihilating the Jewish state of Israel. With Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Ahmed Qureia looking on, Ramazan Abdullah, secretary general of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, said the Palestinian Authority and all Palestinian movements have reached agreement on a joint strategy after Israel's evacuation of the Gaza Strip. "This war would continue till full liberation of Palestine, restoration of the denied rights of the whole Palestinian nation and briefly speaking uprooting of the usurper Israeli regime," he said, according to a translation by the official Iranian Islamic Republic News Agency..." The vile Jew-hating, hostile actions of the U.S. to Israel, our trustworthy ally and dear friend, is against everything the U.S. has ever stood for, and against everthing Americans believe in: freedom, justice, human rights, and the belief that we are all created equal. Unless the U.S. EU and UN reverse their horrifying anti-Jew, anti-Israel policies, it will be evident that the U.S. EU and UN have taken their stand with the terrorists against innocents.
13. To Abu Zaid (#7)
Pat Lavin ,   Montgomery, USA   (09.30.05)
I would ask you, Abu Zaid, how the $300 million plus Aid package approved by the IMF will improve his lot and that of other Palestinians. Has he considered working diligently on insuring that international support (and subsidization of legitimate and practical Palestinian aspirations)achieves positive results? I would plead with Abu Zaid not to concentrate on his 'external enemy' (Israel); rather, to use every ounce of his energy and intelligence to promote the well-being of his fellow Palestinians. Only then will he have his "Free Palestine".
14. Sharon will not follow the Road map at all
Sal Azam ,   Chicago, USA   (09.30.05)
Till he is decisively pushed by the Quartet. For Bush the situation is improving to play other cards. White house is being cleaned up and Bush will be happy about it in the long run. Sharon and his gang are nothing but criminals like the illegal settlers. For Russell, Israel is the size of New Jersey and nearly the same economy. It needs the U.S dollars every year that is why it requested 2.2 bilion for Negev and Galilee and gets $5.25 billion every year from the U.S. and cannot survive without the U.S military support and money. Swallow your "pride" my zionist "friends".
15. Well said post 1
??? ,   USA   (09.30.05)
My deepest apologies to the people of Israel.
16. Abu Zaid
???   (09.30.05)
America doesn't pay Israels bills you hypocritical moron. Tell me, where the hell is all of the money that American tax payers have been shelling out to the Palestinians? Some fat lady who married the criminal Arafat is living off of it in Paris.
17. American style freedom and democracy
Marcel ,   Florida   (09.30.05)
What a joke ,as lie all this garbage about freedom as the U.S. dictates what once sovereign Israel MUST do ! What arrogance ,the pride of hell dictates to Israel what she must do while giving lip service to the terrorists whose unchanged goal is Israel's destruction. If you think Hurricaner Katrina & Rita slappped the arrogant pompous fools in Washington silly,you ain't seen nothin yet. Pride goes before destruction,America
18. #14
J K ,   NYC, USA   (09.30.05)
Well, Sally boy, before you point fingers, the Palestinians havent even held to one clause in the Road Map for the last 10 years. How hard is it to stop shooting and to stop sending bombers to murder women and children. We dont like Hamas and you shouldnt either. They keep the Palestinian people down. How about holding to the 1st clause in the roadmap that calls for the Palestinians to take the guns away from the illegal terror groups waging an illegal and immoral 5 year terror war against Israel. Israel just pulled out ot Gaza.....what have you done for me lately?
19. the long necked giraffe Assad
Hanina ,   USA   (09.30.05)
I like Assad. He has a nice long neck, easy access for chopping off his head.
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (09.30.05)
Shortly after the 1967 Six Day War, the American Joint Chiefs of Staff submitted their report requested by the U.S. government. Their report stated ISRAEL CAN ONLY BE DEFENSIBLE IF IT RETAINS JUDEA, SAMARIA, GAZA AND THE GOLAN.
21. #14
Russell ,   Miami   (09.30.05)
Even at the height of the Intifadah with defense costs high to combat terrorism Israel is self sustainable. Nice try though, Sal. See article below... Israel could cope with its worst recession in 50 years without US aid, the International Monetary Fund has said in its annual report on the country. "It is clear that the US aid will help, particularly in containing the fiscal deficit and stabilising the economy," IMF European Assistant Director Masahiko Takeda said. "But the Finance Ministry is ready to cope with the situation without counting on US aid," he added. Israel's economy has been battered by the global slowdown, hi-tech slump and a two-year Palestinian uprising that has scared off tourists, slashed revenues and sent defence costs soaring. "We see considerable risk that revenue (next year) will fall short of the budgeted amount," the report said. Israel is reportedly seeking $8bn (£5.1bn) in loan guarantees and $4bn in defence and other grants over 10 years from the US, the IMF's biggest shareholder. Cutting interest rates Israel is expected to overshoot its 3.9% budget deficit target substantially this year. Mr Takeda said the government should address the causes of the deficit rather than relying on US aid to plug the gap. In unusually direct advice to Israel's central bank, the Fund called on the Bank of Israel to use "every opportunity" to cut interest rates from 9.1%. It also criticised what appeared to be a politically inspired 2 percentage point rate cut last December, which it said led to a sharp depreciation of the shekel, a surge in inflation and a threat to financial stability. The IMF said it was confident the government was committed to pushing through the budget, due by 31 December, without compromising on spending cuts. Disagreements about funding for Jewish settlements in the West Bank and Gaza Strip led to the dissolution of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's government in November. Elections are due to be held on 28 January.
22. Deport the Arabs instead!
Daisy ,   USA   (09.30.05)
23. This is B.S.!
Daisy ,   USA   (09.30.05)
24. "Palestinians" don't exist!
Daisy ,   USA   (09.30.05)
It'a all a big Arab lie!
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (10.01.05)
The Palestinian Authority are openly genocidal. The following is an excerpt from sermon by Sheik Ibrahim Mudeiris, May 13 2005 on Palestinian Authority TV (transcribed by Memri TV monitor): "We have ruled the world before, and by Allah, the day will come when we will rule the entire world again. The day will come when we will rule America. The day will come when we will rule Britain and the entire world - except for the Jews. The Jews will not enjoy a life of tranquility under our rule...The day will come when everything will be relieved of the Jews. The stones and trees will want the Muslims to finish off every Jew." July 11 2005 ‘Al-Qaida nukes already in U.S.’ ‘Terrorists, bombs smuggled across Mexico border by MS-13 gangsters’ “According to captured al-Qaida leaders and documents, the plan is called the “American Hiroshima” and involves the multiple detonation of nuclear weapons already smuggled into the U.S over the Mexican border. Al-Qaida has obtained at least 40 nuclear weapons from the former Soviet Union - including suitcase nukes, nuclear mines, artillery shells and even some missile warheads. The plans for the devastating nuclear attack on the U.S. have been under development for more than a decade. It is designed as a final deadly blow of defeat to the U.S…thousands of al-Qaida sleeper agents have now been forward deployed into the U.S. to carry out their individual roles in the coming “American Hiroshima” plan. The future plan, suggests the attacks will take place simultaneously in major cities throughout the country - including New York, Boston, Washington, Las Vegas, Miami, Chicago and Los Angeles…” G8 leaders have promised nine billion dollars to the Palestinian Authority over the next three years. TAX DOLLARS THAT SHOULD GO FOR THE IMMEDIATE BUILDING OF BOMB SHELTERS! July 8 2005 ‘From London to Gaza’ by David Bedein: “In recent weeks, American, British and Israeli intelligence sources have revealed that al-Qaida units now operate in the southern section of Gaza, and are positioned to take over the area that Israeli Defense Forces would vacate, if the proposed retreat plan is indeed carried out by the Israel government…” Gaza is to be transformed into Hamastan, the largest terror base in the Middle East with its own airport and seaport and al-Qaida, a major threat to the entire world., July 18 2005 ‘Al-Qaida’s U.S. nuclear targets’ “The series of attacks is designed to kill 4 million, destroy the economy and fundamentally alter the course of history. New York and Washington top the preferred target list for al-Qaida leadership. The captured terrorists and documents also suggest smaller attacks may take place on American soil before the nuclear incidents. They may include some involving automatic weapons at schools and shopping malls. Another requirement dictated from the top at al-Qaida is that the attacks take place in daylight, so that the whole word will be able to see the images of a mushroom cloud over an American city…”
26. take linda's scissors & paste away b4 she hurts herself
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