Rice should see the forest from the trees and be honest here - The PA/PLO is the same kind of terror group as Hamas.
The dangerous and ludicrous notion that the PA/PLO is different than Hamas in their ultimate goals is what is causing confusion and dishonestly in US policy.
In the same way that there is not a "war on terror" but a "war against Islamic fundamentalists", the US keeps misnaming and misdirecting who the nemy is.
Abbas's goals ARE the same as Hamas. It is how he gets there that is the issue for him.
So why the hell is the US backing him?
Perhaps in the same dishonest way that they call the Saudis "our friends"(the US's friends) and the Eqyptians " partners". Shameful pandering for oil.
If the chain reaction is controlled in an Atomic reaction ..then we have electrical energy,,,,but when this reaction goes out of control then we have a BOMB, so the nature of all conflicts in the world after the FALL of USSR are controlled by Americans and some times the French are trying to play in Africa and Lebanon........so If US is intrested in ending this bloodshed in the region....they can do it in no time.....but the question is Why to stop that conflict? it is not causing any damage to the American intrests in the region!!! Ok ...it should not go out of control but it should not stop too!!!! I remember when US put a pressure on Israel for the first time during late eighties ; the Israeli PM at that time"Yetshak Shamir" said...... "the Zionist Movement's flags are going down and down ".....because he is the only radical Zionist who didn't compromise.
The Palestinian Authority, as well as Hamas, are openly genocidal with the international goal of global takeover.
The following is an excerpt from sermon by Sheik
Ibrahim Mudeiris, May 13 2005 on Palestinian Authority
TV (transcribed by Memri TV monitor):
"We have ruled the world before, and by Allah, the day
will come when we will rule the entire world again.
The day will come when we will rule America. The day
will come when we will rule Britain and the entire
world - except for the Jews. The Jews will not enjoy a
life of tranquility under our rule...The day will come
when everything will be relieved of the Jews. The
stones and trees will want the Muslims to finish off
worldnetdaily.com July 11 2005 ‘Al-Qaida nukes already
in U.S.’ ‘Terrorists, bombs smuggled across Mexico
border by MS-13 gangsters’ “According to captured
al-Qaida leaders and documents, the plan is called the
“American Hiroshima” and involves the multiple
detonation of nuclear weapons already smuggled into
the U.S over the Mexican border. Al-Qaida has obtained
at least 40 nuclear weapons from the former Soviet
Union - including suitcase nukes, nuclear mines,
artillery shells and even some missile warheads. The
plans for the devastating nuclear attack on the U.S.
have been under development for more than a decade. It
is designed as a final deadly blow of defeat to the
U.S…thousands of al-Qaida sleeper agents have now been
forward deployed into the U.S. to carry out their
individual roles in the coming “American Hiroshima”
plan. The future plan, suggests the attacks will take
place simultaneously in major cities throughout the
country - including New York, Boston, Washington, Las
Vegas, Miami, Chicago and Los Angeles…”
G8 leaders have promised nine billion dollars to the
Palestinian Authority over the next three years. TAX
DOLLARS THAT SHOULD GO FOR THE IMMEDIATE BUILDING OF
Israelinsider.com July 8 2005 ‘From London to Gaza’ by
David Bedein: “In recent weeks, American, British and
Israeli intelligence sources have revealed that
al-Qaida units now operate in the southern section of
Gaza, and are positioned to take over the area that
Israeli Defense Forces would vacate, if the proposed
retreat plan is indeed carried out by the Israel
Gaza is to be transformed into Hamastan, the largest
terror base in the Middle East with its own airport
and seaport and al-Qaida, a major threat to the
worldnetdaily.com, July 18 2005 ‘Al-Qaida’s U.S.
nuclear targets’ “The series of attacks is designed to
kill 4 million, destroy the economy and fundamentally
alter the course of history. New York and Washington
top the preferred target list for al-Qaida leadership.
The captured terrorists and documents also suggest
smaller attacks may take place on American soil before
the nuclear incidents. They may include some involving
automatic weapons at schools and shopping malls.
Another requirement dictated from the top at al-Qaida
is that the attacks take place in daylight, so that
the whole word will be able to see the images of a
mushroom cloud over an American city…”
ISRAEL OFFERED UP AS 2ND CZECHOSLOVAKIA
The United States, the EU, and the UN are fully aware
that the goal of the Palestinian Authority and other
terrorist groups is total annihilation of Israel.
An Islamic terror state in the Jewish Holy Land
enables that goal. See part of an article below:
Tuesday, August 23, 2005
Islamic Jihad says all Palestinians united
Leader says total annihilation of Israel joint
© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com
"In a news conference in Damascus, the leader of the
Palestinian Islamic Jihad today boasted all
Palestinian groups remain united in the goal of
annihilating the Jewish state of Israel.
With Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Ahmed Qureia
looking on, Ramazan Abdullah, secretary general of the
Palestinian Islamic Jihad, said the Palestinian
Authority and all Palestinian movements have reached
agreement on a joint strategy after Israel's
evacuation of the Gaza Strip.
"This war would continue till full liberation of
Palestine, restoration of the denied rights of the
whole Palestinian nation and briefly speaking
uprooting of the usurper Israeli regime," he said,
according to a translation by the official Iranian
Islamic Republic News Agency..."
The vile Jew-hating, hostile actions of the U.S. to
Israel, our trustworthy ally and dear friend, is
against everything the U.S. has ever stood for, and
against everthing Americans believe in: freedom,
justice, human rights, and the belief that we are all
Unless the U.S. EU and UN reverse their horrifying
anti-Jew, anti-Israel policies, it will be evident
that the U.S. EU and UN have taken their stand with
the terrorists against innocents.
linda do you know what , i love it when you have the most potent and deadly weapons on earth and the strongest power on earth ----but still the most Terrified. that just shows you that power is not in the technology you have, its in the heart. even thou you are the only ones ever that used an atomic bomb and killing millions
The question is ; Are Israeli leaders dumb enough to believe the Rice- Bush Team ? Pay attention ;They keep promising success with the mess they have brought to Iraq. The same end result awaits Israel.
are reading from the exact same page of the 'play of farces.'
All they want is to fall into the arms of the Saudi's in a child like subservient manner and say, "look, we did as you said daddies. Do you love us now?"
A Hamas Headquarters in Saudi Arabia?
Bush Waives Saudi Trafficking Sanctions
moral to the story:
Will they ever do enough to get that love? And how many people, namely Israel and the US itself(remember 9-11!)will get the stab between the shoulder blades in the mean time?
22 HUGE, OIL-WEALTHY Arab states cover over six
million square miles, over ten percent of the land
surface of earth. TINY, over-crowded Israel, only one
tenth of one percent of the Middle East.
Desiring another Islamic state in Israel, America is
breaking U.S. laws which make it illegal to
discriminate based on race or religion. Demanding
forcible removal of Jews from the Jewish homeland
based on race-Jews and RELIGION-JUDAISM.
Making Jews jobless and homeless for implacable
enemies, Israel destroyed the homes of about 9000 Jews
in Gaza and north Samaria. Homes for which the Jews
must still pay mortgages for. Thousands of Jewish
greenhouses and 325 Jewish farms built on land that
NEVER belonged to Arabs were given as gifts to wealthy
Palestinian Authority terrorist organization. Muslim
mobs destroyed synagogues, Hamas flags flying from
synagogue roofs as synagogues burned. A huge victory
for global jihad, Islamists, and every Jew-hater on
the planet. World leaders congratulated Sharon for
The U.S. EU, and UN, not satisfied, cruelly demand
more Jew cleansing from Judea and Samaria, to make
hundreds of thousands of Jews jobless and homeless,
greatly exacerbating Israeli Jews' dire poverty and
joblessness. Creating a massive economic and human
crisis. AND MASSIVELY DESTROYING ISRAEL'S SECURITY.
A most dangerous precedent is being established that
Jews in other countries and other NON-MUSLIM people
groups will suffer the same horrendous human rights
violations as Israel’s Jews.
Does the U.S. government plan to eliminate the laws
which make it illegal to discriminate based on race or
religion? Or, does the U.S. government plan to add a
clause stating THE LAW DOES NOT APPLY TO JEWS?
Oslo-Road Map ruthlessly destroyed the human rights of
Christians who suffer horrific persecution under the
cruel occupation of PLO/PA.
The following is from: 'Christianity Dying In Its
Birthplace' By Daniel Pipes
FrontPageMagazine.com | September 13, 2005
“Almost every day – I repeat, almost every day – our
communities are harassed by the Islamic extremists in
these regions,” Pizzaballa says. “And if it’s not the
members of Hamas or Islamic Jihad, there are clashes
with … the Palestinian Authority.” In addition to the
Islamists, a “Muslim land mafia” is said to operate.
With PA complicity. it threatens Christian land and
house owners, often succeeding to compel them to
abandon their properties.
The campaign of persecution has succeeded. Even as the
Christian population of Israel grows, that of the
Palestinian Authority shrinks precipitously. Bethlehem
and Nazareth, historic Christian towns for nearly two
millennia, are now primarily Muslim. In 1922,
Christians outnumbered Muslims in Jerusalem; today,
Christians amount to a mere 2 percent of that city’s
This MASSIVE ATTACK ON JUDAISM AND CHRISTIANITY by the
Quartet-U.S. EU, UN and Russia, has ominous
implications for every Jew and Christian on earth.
Where are the human rights organizations???
In 1922, Britain, illegally gave Arabs MOST OF
PALESTINE-80%. The area became Jordan, giving Arabs
an Arab Palestinian state on Jewish land. IT WAS
ETHNICALLY CLEANSED OF JEWS. This area is part of
ancient, Biblical Israel, and along with present-day
Israel, including Judea, Samaria, Gaza, and the Golan,
was recognized by the League of Nations as the Jewish
All Palestinian Authority maps show the new State of
Palestine covering ALL Israel, with ALL Jerusalem as
their capital. Israel, Holy Land of Jews and
Christians is the greatest prize in the global jihad.
He is not even an Amercan citizen !!!( yes, we also know that !!!)
All conflicts are controled by the US? LOL And the moon is really made out of cheese!
You forget that Saddam used WMD's but then again, you must be a Muslim.
I am American and I know this country has made many mistakes- I regret some of my countries history- the native American genocide, Vietnam, the Atomic bombs (though WW2 did stop) , our evironmental sins, and the support of the racist state of Israel, and the Iraq war
But I can say that I at least admit my countries mistakes- the Israeli- jew- zionists here , seem to never do that- and that is their biggest down fall, their blind bigottry and patriotism to being jewish and their welfare state of Israel- the inability to self critisize is and will be their undoing
Stupid liberal smuck, you beleive only what your tv tells you, and there liberal bias is evident. The evil doers are not the ones dieing by the hand of suicide bombers its those who think to use suicide bombers, How the heck can anyone think its holy for G_D to create the human body so that you can blow yourself up. Islam is clearly the problem here not the jews. The inability of the muslims to self critsize will be their undoing and the usa's too if more of you dont wake up!
Mr. Richard, it is the problem of occupation.Having been living in a prosperous situation in the US, u do not what is going on over there, U just see the lies that Jews want you to see/lestin .They do not show U the daily killing of Palestinians and the daily aggression that they are conducting over there.Believe me, if any body leaves homeless (for any reason), I am sure U gonna blow your slef up in his face.Try to see the equation by putting (=) in the middle... This is my advise to U.
The US mistake is supporting a racist second arab palestinians state and the evil arab empire led by the biggest threat to the world since Nazi Germany...Saudi Gammorah and its exporting or terror and incitement with its oil.
I have no clue how you can call Israel racist when the Arabs are equal citizens. Its not a perfect system, but it works quite well. Even in the US we have enthic problems, especially with skinheads like you. I have found the more educated liberal in the US are some of the dumbest people in the world because they have selective memories.
What the US should have done was forced the two states, two people, not three states three people. Jordan is Palestine. There is no justification for a second Palestinian state and the US should support the US because the US gains 10s of billions of dollars from the Israeli people, their intelligence and their support.
True Americans support Israel because its the right thing to do. You can criticize. I sure do. How can Israel give up part of its terroritory to racist arabs. This is a mistake of the Israeli government. How can you arm racist arabs? How can you allow them to teach their childrens lies like the Nazi doctrine? How can you support Arab terrorism instead of education and feeding your kids?
Why is it that leftists like #13 are antisemites and project their own demons of hatred and racism on Israel? First of all, the accusation that Israel is a racist country is so stupid that only a moron like #13 could believe it. Israel takes in thousands of Ethiopians and #13 accuses it of racism while the Muslims in the Sudan are waging a genocidal war against African Christians and that's not racism. Hamas and the PA along with Muslims in every country publish the most vile nazi-inspired antisemitism and because of that, the Israelis are racists--according to the idiot and hypocrite liar, #13. He claims that Israel and the Jews won't acknowledge their wrong-doing. Yet when Baruch Goldstein murdered Muslims at prayer, hundreds of thousands of Jewish Israelis took to the streets and protested and the Israeli Government condemned Goldsteinb's acts of murder. When elderly Jews were blown up at a seder, not one demonstration was held in an Arab country. That's not racism--according to the racist #13.
What is so wrong with being a proud Jew? Other religions take pride in themselves, so why is it not okay for Jews to do the same?
The world has tried to wipe them out and yet they come back even stronger. We could all learn alot from them.
Gee, you must be getting up every morning and hating yourself for being an American. You yearn for a paradise, not a country, so do us all a favor and move to one of those Islamic heavens.
Americans, as nations go, is more virtuous than most. Frankly, I cannot think of any other nation with a more benevolent history, except for Israel, perhaps, and that even after taking slavery into account. And yes, bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki was justifiable.
you are thinking of oil americans bombing you know i am thinking only with my daughter in kalil about 100 km sote to nablus in 5 years she has four children salem sulayman salima and musalam and i cant visit her i hope when she has the tenth may i can visit my daughter