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PA makes pre-summit demands
Ali Waked
Published: 09.10.05, 23:56
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1. THE HUMAN RIGHTS THE PA & THEIR ALLIES MUST GIVE TO ISRAEL
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (10.09.05)
Return to Jews ALL of the Jewish land, homes, buildings and assets that were seized in the Islamic invasion of Judea-Samaria (West Bank) Gaza, and east Jerusalem in 1948. Jordan must give financial compensation for the 58 synagogues Jordan destroyed in Jerusalem in 1948. Every Jewish home and building in Jerusalem seized by Arab Muslims in 1948 must be returned to Jews now. Financial compensation must be given to Israel for every bus, restaurant and building that was blown up by Islamic homicide bombers. Bombers are continually incited to violence and murder against Jews by Palestinian Authority mosques, media and public education system. Financial compensation for the thousands of Jews maimed and murdered by the Islamofascists. JEWS DELIBERATELY TARGETED BECAUSE THEY ARE JEWS. The return of Israel's hundreds of POW/MIAs and Jonathan Pollard. Financial compensation for the beautiful synagogues Muslim mobs destroyed in their intense hate for G-D, in Gush Katif, Gaza. Compensation in land and finances for the one million Jewish refugees who were violently ethnically cleansed from Arab Muslim countries around 1948. Arab governments siezed the land, homes, businesses, bank accounts and assets of the Jews. Most Jewish refugees fled to Israel. JUSTICE AND HUMAN RIGHTS FOR JEWS NOW.
2. Christianity says love the sinner hate the sin!
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (10.10.05)
PA is just posturing. we are benevolent. let's negotiate!
3. Terrorists demand? Give them Bethlehem?
Bunnie Meyer ,   Santa Monica, CA   (10.10.05)
Why, so they can send more terrorists to crawl on their bellys to infiltrate Israel and kill people? Let out people because they were terrorists before OSLO? How absurd, let them serve their time for their terrorism. Turn in ten thousand guns and then maybe Israel can talk seriously about Bethlehem. Most important, don't trust Weisglass as far as Abbas.
4. I DID NOT WRITE #1 AND #2!
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (10.10.05)
5. what the...? will the real linda pls stop cutting & pasting!
(10.10.05)
6. #2 is an IMPOSTER. This is NOT my post!
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (10.10.05)
The liars and deceivers are using my name again.
7. U.S.EU UN ISRAEL CRUELLY IGNORE PA CHRISTIAN SUFFERING
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (10.10.05)
PERSECUTED "PALESTINIAN" CHRISTIANS BEG WORLD FOR HELP IDF please help them. PLO terrorists conducted bloody, barbaric jihad against Lebanon's Christians, mass maiming and murdering huge numbers. www.free-lebanon.com Click on photo gallery - 20,000 Christians handicapped by PLO atrocities. The reward for PLO savagery was to implant these PLO terrrorists into Israel as "peace" partners through Oslo to continue their jihad. Christians in PA areas suffer horrendous persecution, under the cruel occupation of PA/PLO and other terrorist organizations. The following are parts of an article: Christianity Dying In Its Birthplace By Daniel Pipes FrontPageMagazine.com | September 13, 2005 http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=19453 "What some observers are calling a pogrom took place near Ramallah, West Bank, on the night of Sep. 3-4. That’s when fifteen Muslim youths from one village, Dair Jarir, rampaged against Taybeh, a neighboring all-Christian village of 1,500 people. The Ajajs and their friends broke into houses and stole furniture, jewelry, and electrical appliances. They threw Molotov cocktails at some buildings and poured kerosene on others, then torched them. The damage included at least 16 houses, some stores, a farm, and a gas station. The assailants vandalized cars, looted extensively, and destroyed a statue of the Virgin Mary. “It was like a war,” one Taybeh resident told The Jerusalem Post. Hours passed before the Palestinian Authority security and fire services arrived. The fifteen assailants spent only a few hours in police detention, then were released. As for Khouriyye, the Palestinian police arrested him, kept him jail, and (his family says) have repeatedly beat him. A cousin, Suleiman Khouriyye, pointed to his burned house. “They did this because we’re Christians. They did this because we are the weaker ones.” The Khouriyyes and others recall the assailants shouting Allahu Akbar and anti-Christian slogans: “Burn the infidels, burn the Crusaders.” This assault fits a larger pattern. According to the Catholic Custodian of the Holy Land, Pierbattista Pizzaballa, Christians in the Bethlehem region alone have suffered 93 cases of injustice in 2000-04. In the worst of these, in 2002, Muslims murdered the two Amre sisters, 17 and 19 years old, whom they called prostitutes. A post-mortem, however, showed the teenagers to have been virgins – and to have been tortured on their genitals. “Almost every day – I repeat, almost every day – our communities are harassed by the Islamic extremists in these regions,” Pizzaballa says. “And if it’s not the members of Hamas or Islamic Jihad, there are clashes with … the Palestinian Authority.” In addition to the Islamists, a “Muslim land mafia” is said to operate. With PA complicity. it threatens Christian land and house owners, often succeeding to compel them to abandon their properties. The campaign of persecution has succeeded...Bethlehem and Nazareth, historic Christian towns for nearly two millennia, are now primarily Muslim. In 1922, Christians outnumbered Muslims in Jerusalem; today, Christians amount to a mere 2 percent of that city’s population." "Islamic mafia accused of persecuting Holy Land Christians" http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/09/09/wmid09.xml Every single agreement has been broken by the PA/PLO, rendering Oslo, Road Map and ALL agreements NULL AND VOID. The U.S. EU, UN, Israel: the Christians of the world appeal to you. Stop the injustice. Stop the cruelty. Stop the massive criminal human rights violations. Liberate the Christians from ALL terrorist organizations immediately.
8. ISLAMIST VENEMOUS HATRED FOR THE HOLY PLACES OF ISRAEL'S G-D
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (10.10.05)
BETHLEHEM BELONGS TO JEWS. Gaza's Jews built everything on land that NEVER belonged to Arabs. Muslim mobs stormed Gush Katif's beautiful synagogues; flew Hamas flags from synagogue roofs and in intense hate for G-D burned and destroyed the synagogues. We have all been robbed Joseph is the beloved Bible hero of Jews and Christians. Muslims murdered IDF soldiers at Joseph's Tomb. With venomous hate for Israel's G-D, Muslim mobs burned prayer books and destroyed the Tomb. Jewish worshippers and holy places are frequently attacked by Islamists. Jewish and Christian holy sites are desecrated and destroyed. In the Islamic invasion and filthy desecration of Jesus Christ' birthplace, Church of Nativity in Bethlehem, BIBLES WERE TORN UP FOR TOILET PAPER. It was an act against G-D. Inscribed in those Bibles are the laws G-D gave to Moses. Some of the laws - Exodus 20: "You shall have no other gods before Me" "You shall not make for yourself an idol" "You shall not murder" "You shall not commit adultery" "You shall not steal" "You shall not bear false witness" "You shall not covet" Exodus 21:16 "He who kidnaps a man, whether he sells him or he is found in his possession, shall surely be put to death" Muslims have perpetrated massive desecration and destruction at Judaism's holiest site, the Temple Mount. G-D designated the Temple Mount to the Jews for His worship and prayer only. Muslims repeatedly engage in massive rock throwing at the Jews on the Temple Mount, turning the holiest place on earth into a common place of violence. THE OFFENSE TO G-D IS ENORMOUS. RETURN CONTROL OF THE TEMPLE MOUNT TO JEWS IMMEDIATELY.
9. #2 the IMPOSTER FALSELY USING MY NAME
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (10.10.05)
On checking the other articles, there are 12 posts falsely using my name.
10. Pre-conditions?
J K ,   NYC, USA   (10.10.05)
What are these guys, nuts? They cant even get their crap together on a piece of land the size of a 2x4 and now they want demands for additional cities and territories before they even deliver on anything? Israel might as well pre-condition this meeting for the dropping of the Palestinian 'right of return'.
11. #2 is a fraud. Linda Rivera is not Jewish or Israeli
(10.10.05)
What's this "we" and "let's" in what you say? You have nothing to do with anything. You give your unwanted opinion like people actually care what you think. Mind your own business!
12. the PA makes demands???
david ,   new york., ny   (10.10.05)
Ok- so we left the gaza strip. Gaza is in a state of lawlessness and rockets still fall in Israel. The PA is making demands before a meeting can occur? RIDICULOUS and ILLOGICAL Sharon should demand the disarming of terrorist groups and demand proof that the PA can control the Pals before talking- Sharon should further demansd the rule of law be imposed in Gaza- why make concessions to abbas and the PA for any reason at this point in time? How's that for logic?
13. No summit !
yoel   (10.10.05)
PA did not disarm terrorists as precondition to any beginning of the road-map. We are still waiting. Now, they claim needs of weapons, bullets, armored vehicles. But they own under Dahlan's authorority 1,500 heavily trained and armed troops who never acted for the moment. They just need wilingness of acting;and for that, no summit is needed. It can only be a unilateral act from their side.
14. so we all agree?
david ,   new york, new york   (10.10.05)
seems we all agree that for the PA to demand ANYTHING at this time is crazy!! I would love to hear a good solid reason why 1) The PA has a right to demand anything from Israel and 2) The PA deserves any more concessions from Israel. Any takers? Please do not try to reason that the PA/Pals deserve anything "beacuse of the occupation blah blah blah"---I asked for a good solid reason. Tired of hearing it. We all know the truth---the PA has no control over it's citizenry and before IL gives another inch the PA needs to show responsibility, transparency, and the true desire for peace. I doubt I'll se it in my lifetime but maybe---several generations from now---the Pals will learn to love thier children more than they hate us.
15. ISRAEL MUST NEVER GIVE AWAY ONE SINGLE INCH OF JEWISH LAND
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (10.10.05)
Liars and deceivers; impostors falsely used my name about 13 times on ynet articles in the last several hours. Comments #2 and #4 are NOT my posts. Every inch of Judea, Samaria, Gaza, the Golan, Jerusalem, inside the green line, is JEWISH LAND IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD NO NATION HAS EVER VOLUNTARILY GIVEN AWAY THEIR LAND TO THEIR ENEMIES. Islamofascist strategy is to reduce TINY Israel to such a small area it will guarantee defeat. At that time, the Arab Muslim nations will join in for the final battle against little Israel.
16. So whats new
H L Tobin ,   Barnet Uk   (10.10.05)
What did we expect? Give these people an inch and they want a whole country. They take concessions as a sign of weakness. Be strong Israel,you`ll be dammed if you do and destroyed if you don`t.
17. Beware more false Lindas coming soon!
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18. 17 If you write something coherent,we'll spot you right away
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19. GOOD GOOD! Proud of my leadership
Ramzi Sfeir ,   Bethlehem, Palestine   (10.11.05)
As a Palestinian Voter, I AM PROUD OF MY LEADERSHIP! I AM PROUD OF THE WAY ABBAS IS ACTING! Its clear that this man wants change! He is a REAL PRAGMATIC! He knows very well how to negotiate with israel and is using the methods of israel! NO ADVANCE, NO MEETINGS! Meetings for pictures are not needed at all! Symbolic meetings are out of date now! WE NEED MOVES! Serious Moves! And Abbas is the Man for the game! The reconciliation with Qurei means Seriousness and putting personal interest After the national interest, unlike some other parties and movements who are using politics and other things as PERSONAL instruments in order to defend personal interests! It takes a Leader to be a Leader! Abbas should have come to power a long long time ago....in 1996 ..... but its never too late! YES FOR A PALESTINIAN DEMOCRACY BASED ON DIVERSITY AND UNITY! Afterall, the only common thing between all human beings is that they all are different! I hope that this will help everyone in this region to get out of this horrible circle of stagnation and move ahead with a serious peace plan that will end the suffering of millions of people in Palestine and in Israel ! The DAYS of Rabin - Arafat are gone, its true! But why not creating a better future ? so what if symbols are Dead? So what if we killed each other and hated each other? What will this change ? We dont have the choice! Whether we live together side by side or we kill each other , and we both are able of doing so, By different means! I can't wait for the day where the Man from ramallah as well as the man from Tel-Aviv will both get out of their house and be sure that they will be coming back for dinner without a missing Leg or a missing arm! I can't wait for the day where i will pick up my phone and dial Itzik's or igal's number and talk for hours! I cant wait for the day where i will wake up, get in my car and go to the Sea! I can't wait for the day where i will stand in the street and yell " Happy Independance Day PALESTINE!!!!!!!" The day where i will get a call from my israeli friends who will congratulate me on my independance and even might join the party! People, we are all part of the problem! ITS TRUE! Why don't we give up and try being part of the solution now?? Didn't we suffer enough ? didn't we see enough blood? I say to Hamas and i say to the Settlers and to everyone who is for going on with this war! NOT IN MY NAME! NOT IN MY NAME! NOT IN MY NAME! Thank you
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