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No more compromises
Alex Fishman
Published: 17.10.05, 11:23
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1. BIG JOKE. There was never any compromise anyways
ali   (10.17.05)
2. This Is The DIRECT Result Of Capitulation
Yishai Kohen ,   YeShA, Israel   (10.17.05)
FACT: The Intifada was defeated by military force. There was peace and quiet in Israel for 3 YEARS, from as soon as we went on the offensive in April 2002, until Sharon & Co. ethnically cleansed Jews and re-empowered the terrorists in the PLO, Hamas, and so on. If there is a 3rd Intifada now, it is the DIRECT result of blatantly ignoring what has been PROVEN to work. If you give terrorists power, if you show them that terror pays, then they will murder you. If you hunt them down, kill them and arrest them BEFORE they can carry out attacks, stay on the offensive and keep THEM on the defensive, then there is peace and quiet. There is NO other way, as DOZENS of failed "peace" plans based on Israeli capitulation and concessions have proved.
3. Silly Rabbits
J k ,   NYC, USA   (10.17.05)
Just when it seems things quiet down and maybe there is some chance to move ahead slowly, some Palestinian morons figure its a good idea of cut down 3 kids waiting for a ride. What is inevitable? That the Palestinian people as a whole will pay the price for the overzealousness and stupidity of the extremists that they tolerate within their midst. Israel will hunt these cowards down and eventually arrest them, or speed them on their way to Allah, but will this really change anything? For as much as Israel can send all these guys to their maker, the only ones who can affect any real change are the Palestinians who tolerate and encourage these kinds of actions. Only when they tell the extremists that they are no longer forwarding the 'cause' will this die down. For now, we can expect more shootings. In the absence of a Palestnian epiphany towards peace, I support the IDF measures to make life as uncomfortable as possible for the Palestinians as a whole as a consequence of not turning these louts out, changing their curriculum. They want to make it about us and them? I choose us.
4. taqqkiyah
yehu ben zphar ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (10.17.05)
What part of "death to the Jews" doesn't the government understand? The time for capitulation is over, the time to strike back hard is here. The Arabs lie continually and the government believes them every time, and each time the cost is more Jewish lives. Enough already.
5. answer to no. 2
(10.17.05)
do you really believe what you're saying or are you just repeating what you've heard in the past ? I am by no means left of center but this 'problem' will never be solved by force. Where is the roman empire, the Greek, the Britiish the Turkish and many more .. ? In America (for example) people drive by schools and kill kids for fun. People get killed waiting at the ATM (ready teller - cashpoint) and this demonstrates the state of, or lack of man's development. Even if, and I believe that it can happen, we have 2 sides - us and the Palestiniand living side by side in peace - then these things will still happen. It has nothing to do with the withdrawal or being weak or strong but has to do with extremists on all sides. Causing the Palestinian people to suffer (people that just want to eat, have a place to sleep and raise their children in peace) won't help anything but extremism. regards, Michael
6. Answer To Michael
Yishai Kohen ,   YeShA, Israel   (10.17.05)
You obviously don't live in Israel- or have studied the history of the conflict. The Jews agreed to a "Palestinian" state EIGHT times in the past 60+ years- beginning with the Peel Plan in 1937. EVERY time, the Arabs chose war and bloodshed instead. Their suffering is self-inflicted, just like Nazi Germany was on the Germans. As to what brings peace, a refresher: "The Way We Live Now: Israel Proves There Is A Military Solution To Terrorism" (October 17, 2004) …Anyone who visits Jerusalem today will not see the ghost town it was in 2002, when Israel was absorbing an average of one suicide bombing a week. … How did things improve so dramatically, and so quickly, for Palestinians and Israelis alike? Begin by recalling Israel's assassination, in late March, of Hamas spiritual leader Sheikh Ahmed Yassin. At the time, the action was all but universally condemned as reckless and counterproductive. "By granting Yassin the martyrdom he craved, the Israelis have provided a motive for new suicide attacks," went an editorial in the normally pro-Israel Daily Telegraph of London. "More young Palestinians will fall in love with death, and more Israeli civilians will die with them." Yet what followed for Israel were nearly six consecutive terror-free months. This wasn't because the Palestinian terror groups lacked for motivation to carry out attacks. It was because they lacked for means. The leaders of Hamas, Islamic Jihad, and Yasser Arafat's own al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades had to spend their time figuring out how to survive, not on planning fresh attacks. The Israeli army incarcerated terror suspects in record numbers--some 6,000 now sit in Israeli prisons--which in turn helped yield information for future arrests. Most importantly, the security fence has begun to make the Israeli heartland nearly impenetrable to Palestinian infiltrators. (August's double suicide bombing in Beersheba happened precisely because there is still no security fence separating that town from the Palestinian city of Hebron, from where the bombers were dispatched.) Taken together, these measures prove what a legion of diplomats, pundits and reporters have striven to deny: that there is a military solution to the conflict. http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110005768
7. Michael
AK   (10.17.05)
Children in America do not get killed for fun in front of their schools, as you put it. Yes, there're some neighborhoods where life is cheap and it is due solely to the fact that multi-cultural practitioners and race arsonists set up so very low a barrier for what is an acceptable behavior of select "minorities" and created all sort of excuses for criminals, putting blame for their acts on others. The same way, you Arabs, for I assume from your post that it is who you are, are being continuously excused and your barbarian acts explained away, and you, as result, believe that you have every right to kill and maim and the responsibility for your criminal acts falls on Jews. How convenient. Of cause you’re wrong – the responsibility for your acts of terrorism is solely that of the criminal terrorists . Israelis have every right to defend themselves from your savagery and have the total support of every decent person. As to you hope for the demise of the American “empire,” keep in mind that consequences in the end might not be to your liking : the collapse of the Roman Empire spelled long centuries of “Dark Ages.” Similarly, in Zimbabwe, white farms looked very tempting, when Whites farmed them and the entire country was well fed; now, the white farmers are dead or expelled, their wonderful and productive farms taken over by those who felt entitled to what they neither earned or created, and now, as a result, the entire population is starving and begging for handouts from the international community. You Arabs are looking at Israel counting anticipated spoils of conquest, but like the Zimbabweans, should you succeed to put you hand on what the Jews have built, you will end up turning it into a garbage heap, like you did those wonderful organic farms in Gaza.
8. arab understand one thing: strength. When Israel is strong
Bunnie Meyer ,   Santa Monica, CA   (10.18.05)
the terrorists get killed trying to kill Jews. When Israel capitulates to the terrorist scum to please the old oaf bush, terrorism increases. Strength protects, capitulation kills.
9. #5
Yakir ,   Switzerland   (10.19.05)
"people that just want to eat, have a place to sleep and raise their children in peace" hey, but we israelis want to do that to. you have to look at the big picture dude. the palestinians dont have their people under control. everybody does what he wants. israel gives land back step by step and what we get in return is murder and more hatred. i was in the israeli army, and i know exactly how the army acts. there's a law for every fu*king move you do. the army only kills someone who is a potential danger to the soldiers or the israeli citizen. i was in the fronts myself and i can tell you that. so, before you come along with your stupid comments, think about the psychological problem of the palestinians and watch this video on the way: enjoy: http://seconddraft.org/streaming/pallywood.wmv
10. fyi -Yishai is a Kahane follower
(10.20.05)
11. Cathlics Trading synogog in Spain for Syn. Jerusalem
Ric Blehn ,   Camby USA   (10.31.05)
Your Messiah is the Antimessiah. The cathlics are only living up to their beliefs in Prophecy about their Messiah. This man is one in the same man he is not the Messiah he is the anti-messiah. Believe me when I tell you this,your acting stiffnecked on this issue. Stay away from Jerusalem as a place of residence,move to outposts east and south less population. Find farming sites raise food live there. If not in valleys move to the hills. When the anti messiah gets done with Jerusalem and Israel you will wish you had nothing to do with your messiah(antimessiah).... Please listen for your own good. Blessing Ric
12. Syn Spain vs Syn Jerusalem
ric ,   Camby USA   (11.04.05)
UPDATE If the messiah (antimess) does show himself in Jerusalem he'll only be there I believe 42 months then I believe he will gather the nations to fight against Israel from meggetto. Parts of your government will be involved you may not really know at first who is and who is'nt.The true Messiah said I did not come to bring peace but a sword brother against brother , mother against daugther and father against son. There is more but you must read Scripture to know. I certainly don't claim to have all the answers but some of the basics I believe I have. Don't always listen everyone else study your selfs if you can make the time. I know life is hard in Israel I still would love to spend my winters there. Blessings for the coming Shabbat. Sincerely Ric
13. Natural Gas
Ric ,   Canby USA   (11.16.05)
TO Israeli's Natural gas is a renewable energy now. i was reading an article in a local news paper in Portland Or. USA about a college student that developed a fungus that will grow in old mines in Wyoming. I can't remember the name of the paper but it would not be hard to find out it was printed about a year ago. The fungus makes methane gas. Israel has always been a good problem solver to the world this may help Israel. Electricity is powered in the US by coal and oil thats what Im told. Blessings. Sincerely Ric
14. Continued Study in the Messianic world
Ric ,   Camby USA   (01.24.06)
Here is a site that should update you on the New Testament. Which would take you back to pre Constinteen 325 AD. www.messianic.biz this is not my work but it brings me up to date and solves my lies I have been taught over the years. It also clearifys stuff I been taught on Prophecy and I pray it will inspire you to study for your own benefit of the Kingdom of Heaven. Sincerely Ric
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