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Himmler relative marries Israeli
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Published: 12.11.05, 18:50
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1. Himmler
tzippi ,   usa   (11.12.05)
Wow-is this some kind of warped yechus?
2. What a waste of an Israeli guy.
Gil ,   Tel Aviv   (11.12.05)
Why didn't he just shoot himself in the head instead?
3. Gill! All kinds of people make Tikkun...
(11.12.05)
your comments aren't nice. (besides how do you know? may-be she converted? and if she didn't it isn't any of our business!)
4. What a stupid Jew!
Roger ,   USA   (11.12.05)
The man, the son of the Holocaust survivors, must have been totally deranged. The good thing that his son is not Jewish.
5. jews do....
(11.12.05)
HOLD A GRUDGE!!! revenge!! an eye for an eye!! jews LOVE TO REMEMBER TO HATE!!!!
6. so what? theyre happy, leave them in peace
(11.12.05)
7. We have all the right to hate Nazis and their families
Miriam   (11.12.05)
8. Do NOT Hold Her Accountable For Others' Sins
Yishai Kohen ,   YeShA, Israel   (11.12.05)
Did SHE murder Jews? No. Then leave her alone. She bears no blame at all. It's that simple.
9. Hard to deal with.
Andreas ,   Hamburg/Germany   (11.12.05)
That is indeed an strange story! I can understand that jews are disgusted by the heritage of this woman. On the other hand, you cant judge that woman for her uncle. Seems not very logical for me that she would marry an israeli if she would be an nazi. But again, there is a hard heavy story this couple had to deal with. When somewhere in the Hell Himmlers soul get´s to know what happened, he will probably die a second time...this is really his last defeat.
10. leh leha
gil ,   ashkelon   (11.12.05)
Jews,my brothers,follow our Patriarch Abrham teachings. Refrain from useless hatred,because no one is responsible of family deeds
11. Do not tell
Ilan ,   The Netherlands   (11.12.05)
For goodness sake. There has been anough suffering. This is something that the child does not need to know. What will be proved? Let it die with the last person who knows. This is something that you can not pass on to another. You can not blame the child. Teach it to respect everyone and to grow up as a mensch. There is enough crap to worry about in this world we live in.
12. Tried to Murder the Other Half?
Johnny Weintraub ,   Sugar Land, Texas US   (11.12.05)
The "attempt" to murder the other half was quite successful. Six million of us. When the six-year old grows up to manhood, he will be confronted with an unimaginable inner-conflict.
13. sounds like the movie "walk on water"
doron   (11.12.05)
14. Gil! way to go on that #10 comment of yours makes up 4 #2
(11.12.05)
comment. very cool!
15. numbers 3, 6, 8, 10 and 11 are right in what they say
someone ,   somewhere   (11.13.05)
16. Thanks
Gil ,   Tel Aviv   (11.13.05)
Anyway if she converted we would know in the news story. She's just feeling guilty married the first Israeli / Jew she could find. How tragic / pathetic. I bet she is a big left wing /-Israel hater.
17. Now everybody knows
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (11.13.05)
So instead of telling her own kid, she tells YNet.
18. Not a Jew
Eliezer HaEish ,   Sherman Oaks, CA   (11.13.05)
Quite frankly, there comes a time when a person is simply no longer a Jew. This would be that type of situation.
19. i agree #2
ciara ,   australia   (11.13.05)
this is like like the movie ללכת על המים where the divine Lior Ashkenazi marries some Ariyan who's grandfather was a Nazi. Disgusting. Jews who do this shove salt into our wounds.
20. A decent person. Also some additional info
Howard ,   Pacific Coast, USA   (11.13.05)
For us to hate her for someone else's crimes would be totally wrong. She is NOT accountable for what Heinrich Himmler did and she obviously does NOT subscribe to Himmler's mad hatred; she calls him "the worst mass murderer of modern times." In fact, she seems to be trying to discover and expose more information about what the Himmlers did, and rather than telling only her son, she is evidently trying to make this info more widely available as a part of history. That's commendable. And of course, had the husband and son whom she loves been alive in WW2, the would have been considered "Juden" and the Nazis would have murdered them without an instant's hesitation. Additional details can be found here: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,13509-1867434,00.html I totally agree with Yishay (#8), gil (#10) and Ilan (#11). Let her alone.
21. # 5 misses the point
Kobi ,   MN   (11.13.05)
It has nothing to do with revenge or hate. It does have to do with Torah, genetics and ideology. According to Torah this is a mistake; a Jew marrying a non-Jew is detrimental to both parties, spiritually and physically. Genetically & ideologically, the Germans (for the most) have not changed an iota.
22. Be fair Gil
Newt   (11.13.05)
It's not right that she was punished for her uncle's crimes as a child, and her children shouldn't be punished either. Some of my past family members whom I've never met were part of the KKK back in the early part of the 19th century. It's nothing I'm proud of but it has no baring on my life today.
23. No he won't Johnny
Newt   (11.13.05)
If his parents can see past the hate....so will their children.
24. Happiness and Love
Richard Hitchings ,   Methil   (11.13.05)
Children, Children, Please!!We must look to the future , It is a most futile effort to look backwards and see only what used to be,and the tradgety that was in another time, another world. Lets be glad that people whoever they are,whatever their name find happiness and love.
25. she isn't the only one
(11.13.05)
this isn't that unusual, I'm a jew, and israeli now and I also have "skeltons in my closet". My mother's side is part German and one of Hitler's biggest generals and right hand men is my cousin. Its happens because someone along the line converted to judaism. You know what I think--its the most devine retribution I can do..the thought that a decendent of a Nazi general is Jewish, it puts a smile to my face.
26. Right Andreas
David Langer ,   USA   (11.13.05)
I hope Himler turns in his grave for his niece's love for a Jew. This is the ultiimate revenge. And Andreas, young German's are not to be judged for their fathers, grandfathers or uncles deeds. But young Germans have a duty to teach and remember what has happened to 6 million Jews at the hands of another Germany at another time.
27. Calling all responsible Germans
Gil ,   Tel Aviv   (11.13.05)
Jewish people don't have to hold this German generation responsible. HOWEVER!! We are not interested in your guilt. We are not interested in mixing out Jewish blood with yours to make you feel better. Respect our nation by preserving what is left of the Israelite People after your predecessors destroyed 35% of it. Do not learn Hebrew and visit Israel to live. Do not marry our people. Acknowledge and preserve the Holocaust this much you owe us. So that future Germans and Jewish peoples may live in peace.
28. Forgive and Forget Himmler
Dr.Sadek ,   Cairo,Egypt   (11.13.05)
I am often astonished that some Israelis want to live an endless fight with the past. Himmler was a criminal and a ghost from the painful past. His distant neice is from the Present and Future. Tolerance and forgiveness drive many to forgive and turn a new leaf. Those who attack this mixed marriage reminds of the Ku Klux Klan who attach Blck-white marriages. Cross cultural marriage is a tool for reconciliation among different peoples to forget the past pains and look forward toward a happy and peaceful future. Do not teach your children intolerance. God bless their marriage and hopefully in the future Palestinian-Israeli marriages.
29. Where was his parents during all this?
Zoharah ,   USA   (11.13.05)
His parents had nothing to say about this? Where did these two meet? In some psychiatric facility? This is not the way to work out personal identity issues. I hope they have plenty of money so that their son can benefit from the extensive therapy he is going to need in order to cope with this family revelation.
30. # 13 ia correct walk on water in real life
alan ,   LA   (11.13.05)
IN Walk on Water, a very improbable story occurs. A hit man has second thoughts about killing a serious Nazi war criminal after the hit man gets into the house by a ruse. He uses the Nazis' relative to get in. Part of the cause of the change of heart is that he sees the Nazis's relative has nothing but hatred for the Nazi. In this Himmler's story, a true story, we know nothing about the Jew who marries her or his politicis or ethics. Perhaps and hopefully the child will carry a message of redemption to both families and be an example to others. On the other hand, perhaps he will come to hate one side or the other. Where we come down as spectators is relevent only to the extent that we ourselves expand or contract our own values. If you think this story is bizzare and unlikely, however, think about this: there were over 50,000 men of Jewish origin who served in the Wermacht and must explain to their families and friends how their survival was more important than the survival or others. History is not a white towel. It gets all kinds of grease on it.
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