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Himmler relative marries Israeli
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Published: 12.11.05, 18:50
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31. Himmler
Steve ,   Atlanta, U.S.   (11.13.05)
A "family man loved and esteemed by relatives?" She portrays Himmler as just a regular guy. Her Israeli husband is a participant in the attempt to reform Himmler's reputation. Wiesenthal was right when he said that " a Jew can be stupid but it is not obligatory."
32. Learn hebrew :)
Andreas ,   Hamburg/Germany   (11.13.05)
Very interesting to see how different the opinions of jewish people are if it comes to this topic. Some calling for peace and that no one can hold the Himmler-Woman responsible for "Uncle Himmlers" deeds. This is right and also smart, but it needs the soul of an Saint or something. I´m for sure not a Saint. Others plain and simple refuse to deal with germans. To be honest, if I would be jewish I would think with 90% security that way Gil #27 is doing it. I dont say he is right, I just say it is understandable and in most way´s logical, not smart but human. I have no own Kids, but my sisters has 2 little girls, I love them badly. I have just to imagine someone could harm them to answer myself the question how I would feel about the germans if I would be jewish. So much I honour # 3, 6, 8 , 10, 11....and so on, for there human views, I have to admit, as a jew I wouldn´t be one of them. My head says they are right and there way is probably the only way to deal with the past, but my feelings say something different. So #27 Gil must not be afraid I could start to learn hebrew, visiting Israel or even marry a jewish girl...I would never had the nerv for something like that. #26 There is no way to forget what happened David, if the germans want or not, they have to deal with the past. The best way is in my opinion to help and protect Israel.
33. So what? I married a woman whose Uncle
Dan ,   Nashville, TN   (11.13.05)
helped found the Ku Klux Klan . She has converted to Judiasm, keeps a Kosher home, drags the rest of us to shul on Shabbat, and my kids speak Hebrew. My wife has nothing to do with her family tree and you cannot in any way hold this poor woman responsible for the actions of her Uncle. I am sorry for her to have to deal with this, but I would suggest from my own experience is that she tell her child the truth in a straightforward and honest manner. This child also has a proud Jewish heritage and a long history that goes beyond the Holocaust. Teach him that as well.
34. Himmler laugh in his graves
juke   (11.13.05)
Himmler is laughing in his grave as his neice(, the non jew,) destroys and kills another Jew and his seeds.
35. Andreas
Gil ,   Tel Aviv   (11.13.05)
I'm genuinely moved by your reply. You've got a lot of guts to write that. Respect, thanks.
36. Descendents of Amalek also became Jews
Ilan ,   Ariel   (11.13.05)
This is an odd story which I wish had stayed private. Perhaps if Himmler's relatives can become Israeli and maybe someday Jewish it will close a circle. I'm sure that Himmler wouldn't be happy to see his family living proudly in the state of the people he tried to destroy.
37. Dr, Sadek, you should be
Roger ,   USA   (11.13.05)
..the last one to teach the Jews anything. Take a look what Egypt is like first. As for the Jew who married a Himmler, the man is sick to the core. Unfortunately, we have such Jews. Obviously, he is an ignorant, trashy Jew. He has not only violated the Torah and the Jewish principles but also the memory of those who were exterminated at the hands German nazis. His poor ancestors must be tossing in their graves.
38. Himmler and Dr. Sadek...what next?
DJ ,   Austria   (11.13.05)
Dr. Sadek...Israeli-Palestinian marriages? You are a comic, right? One poor Israeli guy's sensibilities go completely askew and you think this is some fashionable new trend? Don't bank on it. OK?
39. Gil....you had me on your side until....
Newt   (11.14.05)
"We are not interested in your guilt. We are not interested in mixing our Jewish blood with yours to make you feel better." Who's "WE" Gil? Who are you to make judgements on others. If a Jew and a German want to marry, who are any of us to criticize that? "Do not learn Hebrew and visit Israel to live. Do not marry our people." Yep, that's right Gil. Don't encourage people to become interested in learning Hebrew. Let's keep all non Jewish persons uneducated about Jewish religion. Again....who are you to say who should or who shouldn't be married?
40. Well said Dr. Sadek
Michelle   (11.14.05)
41. Newt
Gil ,   Tel Aviv   (11.14.05)
Encourage Germans to come to Israel and learn Hebrew = increase chance of German people inter-marrying with Jews = increase chance of Jewish people marrying out as per the Himmler example. Notwithstanding this, in my opinion, very tragic outcome where the offspring of a vicious nazi end up "neutralising" a member of our tribe. Newt, the Jewish people are not increasing as a population, it is decreasing. You want that? No? OK then what?? cultural exchange without romance? Sorry I don't understand that.
42. Jews and Germans shouldn't mix
R. James ,   America   (11.15.05)
Jews are better off marrying jews and germans are better off marrying their own. Ultra-Nationalist jews know this just as ultra-Nationalist Germans know this.
43. Self-hating Germans
Michael ,   Canada   (12.09.05)
This obviously self-hating "German" is in so many ways just a typical product of the post-war, "re-educated" anti-German Bastard State. As an Israeli aptly put it "[she] just feeling guilty married the first Israeli / Jew she could find. How tragic / pathetic." Nobody is fooled by her deeds. Nobody, except for the self-delusional parties involved, that is. Like Heidi Klum, and other race-mixing Germans, she's trying to prove to herself and to the world how "open" and "tolerant" today's crop of "Germans" are...even going as far asacquiescing to their biological destruction. Her son is neither German nor Jewish and will grow up, like most children from mixed marriages, with some serious issues. Except that in his case we can multiply them by a thousand. Truly a disturbing story.
44. Guilty Himmler Niece
J ,   USA   (12.09.05)
No, the Israelis who decry this act are completely correct. People like this Himmler woman are despicable... and the man- what on earth was he thinking? Could someone as psychologicaly damaged as this woman ever make a good wife and mother for his child? The number of guilty Germans is far higher than the world population of Jews. This is not the way to resolve mental problems from excessive guilt.
45. Andreas
Michael ,   Canada   (12.09.05)
Andreas is another perfect example of the self-flagelating, masochistic young "German". Has "Anfreas" thought doing something to put himself out of his obvious psychic misery? Quote: The first generation of the Nazi's children, who grew up in the fifties, were bullied and made fun of by their peers at school, as the Germans had learned to hate the Nazis Hmmm, I wonder WHO tought them such cretin-like behaviour towards their own folk-brothers and sisters? Could it be those marvelous and benevolent "liberators", those kind re-education officers?
46. Jews and Germans
Educated ,   USA   (12.09.05)
Not all Germans were Jew haters or Nazis...you are aware of that fact right? Yes we all know about Himmler but what does that have to do with his relative whom has never been a Nazi Jew hater? This is why i hate racists hiding behind their religion as an excuse to show no tolerance to others ,all the while screaming and yelling that people are intolerant of your beliefs.
47. agreed 42, 43 AND 45
Ryan ,   USA   (12.09.05)
48. Selfishness
Daniel Gonzàlez ,   Bogotà D.C, Colombi   (12.10.05)
None of the parties are interested in anything other than making publcity for themshelves. In the case of the woman her mentality is something like this : " In order to expiate MY unimaginable sins and to show the world how much I have "evolved" I will marry someone that is jewish ( regardless of his qualities he has to be jewish that is the only thing I`m interested in) and make sure that it has as much media coverage as possible to show how much I have EVOLVED and how morally and intellectually superior I AM in regard to others understanding tolerance, love and peace,etc..." And as it was said before the offspring of these marriages are neither jews nor germans are something in between that has none of the relevant qualities of the parties involved.
49. Jews are hypocrits
Spider ,   Australia   (12.10.05)
What blatant hatred. The world has to pay for what a government did many years ago. You lot are not great at all. Jews are just bigots who commit attrocities against non-Jews on a smaller scale. This Jewish mentality of we are still a victim yet commit much racism and bigotry is beyond me. Keep it up people, you are only making the world hate you.
50. Final solution
Euro-American ,   USA   (12.10.05)
Funny, how this just won't go away, isn't it? Hitler, hell, anti-semitism is thousands of years old. Why....
51. What about Jewish genocide under Stalin?
Belfegore ,   USA   (12.10.05)
Why should she give a shit about what her Grandfather did?I dont see any of the Chosen shedding tears over the tens of Millions wiped out by Josef Stalin,which was done with the assistance of Russian Jews like kaganovich,Beria,and many others.
52. Don't attack the lineage.
Whats going on? ,   Madison, USA   (03.26.06)
What we must all remember is that the relative of himmler had no choice in to which family she was born into. You israelis are getting as nearly as bad as the muslims when it comes to tolerance. Its as despicable as when the afghans went all hardcore about the guy that converted to christianity because of some dogmatic pastword view of history. What happened is what happened, you cannot change that fact. Why do you continue to slander someone whos trying to live a normal life and couldn't help being borned with a name that shared stigma along with it. By the way, i'm not anti-israeli As you may often find me holding up western ideas on aljazeeramagazine.com The more correct definition of what i'm doing would have to be shutting down ignorance and blind hatred in something that is unable to be changed.
53. Himmler relative marries Israeli
SB ,   USA   (08.06.06)
According to Charles Wighton's book about Heydrich, in Chapter 10, Himmler already had a Jewish cousin through marriage named David Heymann. So Himmler's grand niece may already be partly Jewish, although she hasn't admitted it to the press.
55. What's up with holding grudges?
Michael ,   Dallas, USA   (10.11.06)
Geez folks, Cathy's not the one trying to dump Zyklon-B on everybody's head...why rain on her parade? Her child will surely grow to be a wonderfully diverse young man. She probably doesn't even have an SS tattoo to speak of! Wouldn't Uncle Heinrich be surprised to see his great nephew wearing a yarmulke?! Oh, and number 7...THAT'S not nice.
56. Don't judge her
Stan ,   USA   (11.02.06)
NOT her fault that her father was the brother of Himmler. She does not need to be judged for something she didn't do. Marrying a Jew adds some comforting irony to the situation. Himmler would have hated the idea of a relative of his marrying a Jew and having little "Mischlings" (I used that word sarcastically, of course.
57. Opinion
Ziggi ,   Dayton USA   (11.13.06)
What happened in WWII was a tragedy perpetrated by the German people of that generation. This woman, first - is not of that generation, second - is the grand-daughter of the brother of Himmler and third - simply happens to be german. So what? She married an Israeli. And let us not forget that Germans were not the only ones who committed genocide, so did the Communists - many of whom were Russian and Jewish, so did Serbs, so are the Sudanese...
58. nazis
nancy mcgarr ,   tallassee, al36078 u   (12.09.06)
We cannot hold every relative accountable for every evil done by the Nazis. They were horrible, it's true, but their offspring had nothing to do with it. It is time to stop the blame for innocent people.
59. Himmler
Jessie ,   Florida   (02.01.07)
I'm supposed to be a great-neice of this man as well, and am trying to find out just how. My great -grandfather is the spitting image of the man. His name was Hirsh. As for being a mix of cultures, I'm also part Polish. Talk about one side of the family trying to off the other.
60. Himmler relative?
Damon Dickman ,   Cincinnati, Oh.   (03.25.07)
This was originally meant for Jesse, from Florida, but anyone who might be able to lend advice: I too, am told that I am a great nephew of Himmler. I was wondering if your search yielded anything, and if so, what steps did you take?
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