I agree with many points you said. We, muslims, have to realise and admit, some of us are misinterpretting our Quran and other scripts. They indulge themselves in a spree of murdering that cannot be justified. However, terror is not a fact of Muslims only in this world. YOu've got to look at the bigger picture. We call state terror that USA is applying the NEW WORLD politics? is that right? killing innocents in Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia is terror. The west is denying this for a starter!! Muslims are stating that Terror is not a scripture text, it is an excuse, misinterpretation, or mutant rules used by these terrorists. Whereas the west is calling killing innocents new names like Liberation, Democracy inforcement, Salvation, Self-defense, civilisation, etc. The number of innocents killed by Coalition troops in Iraq is more than what terrorists murdered in decades. Monopolising terrorism terminology to apply only to muslims seems weird, unjust, illogic, and cannot be understood by Muslims. I, as a muslim, admit that there is huge irreversible mistakes being done by misled ignorant muslims towards humanity and ourselves, and willing to walk towards correction. in the same time, I won't pretend that the west is angelic in its wills regarding the OIL WELLS, or fair towards those who are not born western. I see both sides commiting two mistakes, neigther of which is less evil than the other, interest-driven terror definitin, and self-denial and lostness.

I agree with London. Amazing. This is just symptomatic of whats wrong with Muslim society. Since 'Islam' is the answer to everything, there is little if any introspection and belief that there are any internal problems. Everything bad is coming from external forces and there is nothing they can do but strike back at them. A good indicator as to why Islamic society hasnt made any great advances in the last 800 years. There used to be great thinkers and scientists, but it seems these days that is not Islam. I posted this before, but it seems more relevent here: Q: How many Muslims does it take to screw in a lightbulb? A: None. They sit i the dark and blame the Jews.

Jordanians took to the streets against terror and against the terrorists, against the Jordanian criminal Zarqawi. These so called "Islamic" groups, which are not political and not religious, kill those people in which name they justify their bloody crime: Muslims and Palestinians in London, Taba, Sharm and Amman. No Jewish Israeli died in Amman, thanks God. Why do you have to cook it again? What do you want to compare? Murder is murder! Shall we count now how many Israelis died in sucide attacks and how many Palestinians were innocently killed by Israeli soldiers? Does this help or satisfy you? Stop it and start to fight all faces of terror! Including these self-made gods under the mantle of what is called now "Qaeda".

Your hatred is pouring from your sentences. I wish your hatred-based blindness leaves you oneday. I won't discuss what you said, because sarcasm, and completely lack of objectivity cannot be a basis for a constructive discussion. If you think that ynet (as a free newspaper issued from Israel, still i do respect it) is open and prospering because some people come here to insult some other people (nations), then you are mistaken. go on, if you've got more hatred to show, i am listening, and feeling pitty for you. Seriously, i am not being sarcastic, i am really sorry that you cannot but insult 1 billion muslims and see them ALL as your nightmare!!

I don't hate anybody who isnt out to kill me in any way shape or form, but you have to admit, getting accused for all what troubles the Arab world time and again can make one thing that maybe the 'whipping boy' status is indicative of deeper societal ills. You dont have to like what I say, but honestly, tell me whats come out of Islamic society in the last 800 years that could be considered a contribution to the greater good of the world that doesnt have the answer 'Islam'. And before you accuse my of hatred, I am not saying that in a 'pissing war' sense. I only meet it in the sense that if the answer is 'not a hell of a lot', doesnt that indicate that something is wrong and needs fixing? Even the oil that benefits Muslim society today was extracted with Western equipment. Even objectively today it seems the only thing coming out of the Middle East that isnt Israel are homicide bombers and revolutionary ideology. This of course does not mean that there arent million of citizens who are intelligent and leading practical lives and living good lives...only that Islamic society is 'sick' and needs help. And since they reject help that is un-Islamic, they really need to do something because they live in the world with the rest of us and we arent going to be killed or destroyed simply because they cant get their 'stuff' straight. I dont know if its just the 'party line' to blame Israel that everything bad that happens is its fault, but the knee-jerk reaction is only going to extend Islams 800 year drought in anything productive coming from it. I, however, stand by my joke. There is an element of truth to it....unfortunately.

Through time immemorial the Jews have been blamed for every ill that has plagued this planet. From the ancient Greeks and Romans, the English and Europeans at the time of the Black Plague to more modern times, the Nazis, the Ku Klux Klan and the Muslims. There is one very big difference today from the days of Heil Hitler to the present Heil Osama and his friends, Hamas, Jihad, Abbas and the like. This time the Jews hit back and hit back hard! The time has come for the Jew and Israel haters of this world to wake up and face the reality that we will not go away and what ever pain they cause us, it will be a miniscule of what we will cause them! Rockets are no match for Apaches and F15's and F16's. It should be apparent by now to all those who pander the name of Allah about like merchants in the shuk, that their efforts would be far more productive if they this energy to tend to their own. Stop the persecution of women, the poverty and the misery of those who live in the squalor of the refugee camps. They feed these people hatred instead of food to cover up the massive wealth of the oil sheiks who drive gold plated Roll Royces while their loyal subjects scrounge for food in the garbage of their palaces. Radical Muslims must told that the world will no longer stand for their violent menatlity. France is the latest example of how Muslims solve problems. The problem is that they are the problem! Their friends, the Palestinians, must also realise that they will not drive the Jews into the sea. Put down your bombs and pick up your tools and start to work instead of waiting for a handout from the USA and the EU so you can waste it on more guns and bombs.

first f all let us get it straight: not all Muslims are terrorists but all terrorists are Muslims (at least during the past decades), the same goes for armed conflicts, 94% of which are either Muslims against non-Muslims or Muslims against Muslims. And I have never heard Arabs/Muslims acknowledging their own mistakes and failures. They always blame somebody else, mostly Jews and USA. I strongly advise all Muslims to cherish Jews, Israelis, US etc - if it all disappeared whom they would blame? Have you read the UN reports "Arab Human Developments"? They are written by Arabs, mainly Muslims and tell a lot about the issue, I would strongly advise Arabs to read these reports, though the title as such ("Arab Human Development") seems for me being a double oxymoron.

Muslim societies have problems. I agree. They do not pertain to Islam though. They rather pertain to the lack of it. They are results of so much complicated history. Withouyt pointing fingers, or blaming others, yes, we've got problems. But same problems are repeated in so many other countries. Corruption is a social illness that is deeply engrained in China, Brazil, Greece, and Zaair. None of them are Muslim or Arabic! Human rights violations are spread in China, Brazil, USA, Israel, and Russia. None of them are muslims. Illitracy is omnious in most of non-muslim African countries and many of south american ones. None of them are muslims. Economical deterioration is plaguing eastern europe, vast majority of africa, and south america. Almost all of them are non-muslim or arabic countries. It is not our religion that set us backwards, it is some non-religious greedy corrupt bunch of gangsters that govern us. They lick USA and UK's shoes to keep them on their chairs, and they do keep them. We are poorly trapped. Anyway, that is not the point. We admit, we've got these problems, but we share it with so many others. Why can't you see them, and you only put us in the spot light? Why do muslims have suicide bombers. Because we are the only neations that has occupation. All south america is independent. All africa is independent. Palestine and Iraq are probably the only occupied lands on this globe. Both are muslims. You might say that israel is on its land, but we think it is not. Regardless of if that is true, 1 billion muslim think that Palestinians deserve to have a state. Taiwanese fought for a state. Kurds are fighting for a state. Eta is fighting for a state, IRA fought for a state. all used the wrong methods, but only muslims are widely condemned. I would like to assume that we did not present wonders to the world in the last 800years. What did the west provide to the World? occupation, colonisation, capitalism, greed, business-oriented life (as opposed to human oriented). Yes, many great inventions and technologies, but ... accompanied by all this destruction. I guess we are equal. Muslims in the last century did not kill a fraction of what the west murdered. WWI and WWII were a western mill. Heroshema, Nagazaki were swept off the map. Europe was turned into damn darn destruction. Indians in America we eradicated. And we are then blamed for the evil of the world!! I admit we've got problems, and we are trying to work on them. The west has got its problems, face and work on it. Stretch your hands, and believe it, we are people just like you. Do mistakes, and repent, and strive to be better. If we fail, we need your help, not your occupation patronisation or sarcasm. Humans are brothers. Your second message made more sense J K. And many jokes have many trues in them. I can laugh on this too, and see where it come from. But believe, we do a lot more than blaming the jews, we fight, and die for what we believe. These lunatics who kill innocents are the same lunatics who commit the shootings in USA, the same ones who do attrocities everyday in every country. Strangling children, torturing women, stabbings, killing for money, etc. They are all just as bad, but they do not get to the media, and they were weaker than blowing themselves. Islam is power, and it is being misused. Just like nuclear technology is power, and can be misused, does that mean nuclear technology is evil. certainly it does not. We do criticise ourselves, and try to change. But it is hard for humans (not only muslims) to learn, change, and adapt. It takes time, and hard work.

The issues you mention are absolutely endemic across the globe and no one holds any sort of trump card on how to fix it. There is povery wherever you go. Even in the US, one of the richest if not the richest per capita country in the world there is a huge underclass and its only getting worse. There are countries that are worse human rights abusers than others. China is terrible as are others. So why do I put 'you' in the spotlight? Because the problems that plague the Islamic world are the ones that dont stay internal to the respective countres and threaten to destory the social fabric of countries if not the world. Yes, China is a human rights abuser, but you would be hard pressed to show me how it affects you on a day to day basis. Know how it affects me? I get cheaper prices on stuff at Walmart every day. (Brief aside: The US is going to screw itself unless it finds a way to bring manufacturing back to the States and show a little American Pride. Quality will triumph quantity any day. On top of that, the Chinese havent really invented anything. They use corporate espianoge to steal ideas and technology and reverse engineer what they can. Shameless they are!!) How do the problems that affect the Islamic world affect me? I have to worry if my subway car will blow up. If I really need to take that flight. If I'll get gunned down or blown up on vacation. And I dont want to hear about occupation. The Kurds too are currently occupied by the US as well and they love us and dont want us to leave. They are armed to the teeth anyway...They arent fighting for a state....they defacto have one already!!! Say hello to Kurdistan in another few years..mark my words. The Palestinians will have their state at some point I'm sure. The Taiwanese and ETA and even the IRA did not export their problems and conflicts to the greater world. In fact the IRA supposedly is even disarming (get a Muslim in the ME to give up his gun) Right or wrong, they kept their fights at home (more or less). The Muslim terror-scumbags have an agenda to change their host countries and they are willing to kill people wherever its convenient for them to do so....or riot or whatever Listen to the crap that comes out of any Wahabbi mosque. You are right. The Western world had its own issues with colonialism etc etc, but in case you havent noticed, the French flag and the Union Jack have come down everywhere. Many wrongs have been righted, but of course I dont hold them blameless. The entire mess in Israel is the fault of England who made promises out of both sides of their mouth and then cut bait and ran leaving everyone to kill everyone else. This doesnt absolve the Arabs and Muslims of many years of 'Throw the Jews in the Sea' rhetoric when the areas under 'occupation' now werent even occupied. I wont go into 242 now because it only strengthens Israels case.

Again, I will dispute your views of the west. Do we have problems? Yes! But, do we blame everyone else? Do we blame the East? No. Do we blame the Jews? Mostly no. The West works on their problems and tries to solve them as best they can. There is innovation, science, technology, medicine.....things that will eventually save mankind and allow us to live longer more productive lives. I honestly havent seen what Muslim countries have done to resolve their issues or add to the greater betterment of the human condition. All I've seen is clan squabbles and killing each other or other innocents. If the West is 50 years away from getting it right, the Muslim appear to be 500 years behind and the gap is widening and the great world cannot afford to sit around waiting for them. There may be a billion of you, but you do not all speak with one voice and if situations threaten the world, the world will respond and take care of the problems for you, but maybe not in the way you feel is best. And to answer you US accusation. There is for sure crime here. I dont understand how these loonies perpetrate the attacks, but dont assume that because you hear a lot of them happen here that it isnt going on in the rest of the world. The US has the most liberal media in the world and since there is nothing much to discuss except Paris Hilton's brush with the police, EVERY little thing gets airplay. Think of a casino. All you hear is everyone winning. What you do not hear is everyone losing. I cant claim to be an expert on what Islam actually is. I keep hearing its peace, its the answer, its this, its that. What I see emanating from it, I wouldnt wish on anyone and want no part of.

yes, you confirm what I say. Instead of saying "other countries have problems as well" or "it has nothing to do with Islam" what about eliminating illiteracy to begin with? 60% of grown-ups in the Arab World are cannot read and write, Internet-using rates are lower than those in Sub-Saharan Africa? And yes, the West has contributed A LOT. Otherwise your people won´t be able to survive past the age of 5 to start with. And sorry, buddy, my guess is that it is NOT the lack of Islam but its ubiquity is rub...What about murdering your own daughters and claiming you do it in order "to save your honour" LOL!

They don't care who gets slaughtered as long as it's not Arabs. They have no heart or soul!

Your words drip so much hatred that it becomes actually amusing to watch you trip! "All terrorists are Muslims"?! I’m not even gonna indulge that with a reply, but really: shame on you! At least try to spread your hateful inner feelings wisely, on the hope that some retard who has access to the internet would consider your poison.

Muslims and Arabs are human beings and their culture is as valid as anyone else's. They do not need to prove their value to justify their right to exist (same as with Israel) by quoting accomplishments. However, of *course* moderate Arabs and Muslims have made *numerous* contributions to the world over the last 800 years, and claiming otherwise is silly. So I support you on this. (JK, we can criticise the bad, but we should not pretend the good never existed). I don't think you think Arab & Islamic empires were perfect; after all, they were not even remotely democratic, and in the awful African slave trade to the Americas Arabs played a key role. But on the other hand, the Jews of Arabic lands were much better off than those who were expelled from Catholic Spain or nearly wiped out in the Holocaust. There were both good points and bad. But I'm sorry, some of your other points just don't add up. Do you really disagree with the following? (1) Terrorists deliberately murder innocent civilians. This is always wrong. There is NO justification for doing this, EVER. We're not talking about a firefight during a failed arrest in which someone gets killed by accident (this happens all around the world and is tragic but is not terrorism). We're talking about the deliberate blowing up of 3 hotels in Amman, or a marketplace in Hadera. Terrorism is ALWAYS wrong. Suicide bombings against innocent civilians can never be excused. (2) There have been occupations and grievances for milennia in which suicide bombings never happened. Did any of the peoples conquered by Islamic forces throughout history send suicide bombers to deliberately blow up Muslim civilians? Did the American revolutionaries deliberately strap on bombs and go blow up hotels in London? Did the Eastern Bloc countries send suicide bombers to Moscow to murder civilians? Why should Sunni terror groups have special dispensation to deliberately murder innocent civilians, whether Jewish Israelis or Iraqi Shiites or Lebanese Christians or Moroccan Sunnis? (3) Muslims have suicide bombers because your religious authorities and governments feed insane hatred of Jews like me and brainwash kids with the idea that it is good to blow themselves up as long as they take some Jews with them (Iran's latest cartoon, for example). Unfortunately for the Islamic/Arab world and others, copy-cats with grievances against other Muslims or the west are saying, "well, if it's ok to murder Israeli civilians when I have a grievance against Israel, it's surely ok to do it when I have a very powerful grievance against [pick from the list: Iraqi Shiites, Britain, India, Spain, Westerners, Russia, Lebanese Christians, Egypt, Indonesia, Jordan, etc etc etc etc etc.]" Until Muslims stop approving of terrorism against Israelis and Jews, nobody will have peace, because Islamic terror gangs will not constrain themselves to attacking Israel alone. (4) In the modern world, have the more heavily Islamic states protected human rights better than, or worse than, the less heavily Islamic states? Have any of the Islamist Arab states actually allowed Arabs to vote in a competitive election for the national government? Have any given press freedoms? With your last paragraph, I agree 100%. What is tragic is that the denial and brainwashing practiced constantly in Arab Islamic societies in particular, and many Islamic groups in general, cripples the ability to recognize what is really wrong, and stifles the healthy process of assessment and change. This kind of denial is much more harmful for Arabs and Muslims than anything Israel or the US could EVER do. Thanks for reading this (long) talkback.

to JK: I do not think that Muslims did go and cause people Problems. When England, as you admitted, makes promises and causes a mess, it is not internal and they came to Muslims, muslims did not go to them. Don't start to say that I am justifying terror, because Muslims disagree with these lunatics who blow civilians. Focus on the point, Muslims did not export their problems, the problems came to them. Similarly, you went to Saudia arabia, and used the corrupt government there to set your ships and troops there. You came to Muslim's world (for oil), not they came to you. Again, Iraq did not go to USA, USA went there (do not tell me this is to liberate Iraqis, cause this is not true in my opinion). Osama bin laden is a lunatic that got even more lunatic by your interference in his world (he claims he is muslim after all). Of course i agree that terrorism affects your daily life, and your politics also affect muslims lives. People in Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, and any occupied countries do not know the meaning of a holiday, school or fun because they are occupied by your troops, or Israel's troops (so your ally's troops). You, as a human believe that you shouldn't care about others as long as they do not negatively affect your daily life? so if chinese kill each other, but help your economy, that is fine. You only get bothered when their blood splashes on your clean clothes and dirty them? I cannot think like that. Obviously you think low of the chinese too. I honestly respect their recent rise and efforts, and wish them good luck in fixing the many problems they have. If you think that Muslims will ever hand you their lands, you are mistaken. There is no honour in yielding to occupiers. It is only right to resist thieves whoever they were muslims, americans, jews, sikhs, or christians. It doesn't matter. All are immoral and wrong. Humans have to strive against these. Untill Palestinians have a state, they'll keep fighting. Just like the vietnamese did (just for the record, they were not muslims). IRA bombed London because there problems were with london. I disagree with them just like I disagree with Osama Bin laden. the point is, regardless, that Osama bombed america and its allies because his problem was with them! they interfered in his country! they affected his daily life! ETA had a problem with Spanish goverment, they bombed Barcelona. All does the same! Chechneya's Muslims bombed russia because they had problems with Russia, not USA. Muslims in Palestine bombed Tel Aviv, not USA. Osama did not like USA troops in Saudia Arabia, he bombed USA, what do you expect him to bomb? Nigeria? seriously?

Wahhabi's are less then 2 percent of Muslims. Give me a break. It is like these minority of Jews who believe that all human's but jews are their slaves! just some tiny factions. They say crap, yes! get hooked up on them? come on! Israel is commiting human rights violations. Red cross reports say that. Palestinians are blowing themselves in Israel. Both are wrong. Resolution is needed, pointing fingers, and exchanging punches does not help. USA is biased to Israel, this is a big part of the problem. We all know that. Unless an agreed plan is signed, neigther nations will live in peace. Unilateral moves are not particularly helpful i believe. We do not blame you unless you are to be blamed. It is like your are blaming muslim's for Osama's deeds, well, i blame USA for sending troops to Iraq. Who do you expect me to blame? Egyptians? or Syrians? you do blame the east all the time for terrorism (of course you see this blame as rightful). Innovation and science! of course, microsoft monopolises the world, that is evil, not science. what about the japanese, the chinese, the taiwanese. They who really work hard and make achievements. You did of course do many innovations, but Muslims did too. Al Baradai is a Muslim (Nuclear Agency something). Here in UK, many many muslims work in respected positions and doing great. I agree we need to work on many things, and we are working on them. Real, honest muslims, and they are very many, are trying to fix the damage caused by the corrupt, bribed, and rotten governments that we have. I do not accuse the US, I am saying what happens, and not only in USA, in UK here as well. and i did not exclude crime to USA, but just we've got to realise that lunatics exist in any groups. Are you excluding American, or are monopolising evil to Muslims? I agree that USA has one of the most liberal media, and many other good things that i am honoured to learn. But Muslims too have values and morals and other features that deserve respect. I cannot see them the pure evil, and USA or the west the pure honey!! I hear all the time USA uttering big words about Freedom, Liberation, Democracy, Human rights, Civilisation. And what is emanating? occupation, murder, torturing prisoners, Guantanamo, forbidden weapons usage. I want no part of it! can you see my point? To Helen: yes, we are working on this. I am doing PhD, and all my family members finished High Education, because we realise how important is that, and we'll spread the word. Thanks for the advice, you are right! You might be sarcastic, but, and sorry for that, Islam never asked anybody to kill their daughters. These people who do this are ignorants, and follow stupid traditions. Most muslims won't do that. That must have been a comic book that wrote that Islam instructs people to kill their daughter. That is unfair to say, and utter untruth! To Daisy, Muslims care who gets killed even if they are not muslims or arabs. Nobody cares if muslims get killed, like in iraq, bosnya, sheshnya, or Palestine. But if an american, british, or israeli gets killed. Judgement day comes alot closer in the west! 50 innocent civilians were, sadly, killed in London. UK stood and never sat. 30 thousand innocent iraqi's were killed in Iraq (red cross numbers), little, if any, response or pity was shown. Please be fair Daisy! I wish good day for everybody!

Everyone has extremists. We have jewish extremists in Israel also. The difference is that your muslim extremists are consistently violent. And to top it all off they are consistently violent against non-combatants. Suicide bomber wants to die? Sure. Stand infront of my M4 and I'll do it quick and painlessly for him/her. We deal with our radical extremist rubbish in Israel by prosecuting them. What do Palestinians and other Arabs do? Well, Palestinians do nothing to stop terror. Jail them one day and let them go the next day. Thats bullshit Other Arabs? Well they sometimes shoot them or arrest them, like the Saudis do, but only when the terror is directed against Arab interests. When the terror is directed against Israeli and Jewish interests somehow its ok. You could swear theres a lightbulb going on and off in their brains at rapid speed. What rubbish. So we need dialogue with palestinians. Ok thats nothing new But dialogue only works when BOTH sides are willing to: 1) listen to the other side with an open mind; 2). Accept that they are not going to get EVERYTHING that they want, and NEITHER is the other side; 3). Accordingly accept that compromise requires some sort of reciprocity from both sides 4). Accept that one side is NOT entitled to EVERYTHING they want by DEFAULT. But what do we get everytime we start a dialogue? We get (from the palestinians): 1). we dont need to stop terror 2). we ARE entitled to everything we demand by default 3). you Israelis have no claim to anything that we demand 4). we are not and never will reciprocate in any shape or form because we are perfectly entitled to everything that we demand. So what do we do? We unilaterally draw up final border status as closely as possible to protect our interests and give the palestinians some of what they want (not all, because after all we arent getting everything we want either) Then we keep hunting ANYONE who wishes to harm us and we find them, and where possible capture them, or if not we kill them. And thats the story of the terrorist.

Ok, lets see where to start. 1) I agree that the Western world (mostly Britain and France and to a lesser extent Spain) came to the Islamic world and divided the spoils until they were made to leave. Now its the US securing a safe and uninterrupted supply of oil through crappy strongmen. Perhaps its the way of the world, but trust me, if it wasnt the dictators, the US and the rest of the world would have come and taken it anyway. I dont have a solution as to what way it played out were there no strongmen, but the refineries were coming one way or another. Progress waits for no one. 2) As for the US's motivations...I have no idea. I am one guy who was happy to see Sadaam go down, but all Sadaam was was a whitewash for the ethnic and religious tensions underlying the nation. There is no more Iraq, and the sooner Muslims get used to that idea the better....you are gonna wind up with 3 autonomous areas and possibly 3 countries. The Sunnis will never agree to be ruled by the Shiites and the Kurds will never agree to be ruled by anyone ever again. 3) You are putting words in my mouth. I never said that the plight of the factory worker in China was one I approved of . I merely stated that there are terrible things in the world that go on daily that have no discernable impact on peoples lives, not that we shouldnt work to remedy them. My point was that much of the internal strife going on in the Arab/Muslim world DOES affect people all over the place....I was calling into view a difference. You obviously have a better grasp of English as your writing shows, so either you didnt read what I wrote carefully or you are trying to misdirect people who just peruse what I wrote without reading. Very uncool on your part. If the Muslim world, as you claim reviles all these attacks, Bin Laden and otherwise, how come we NEVER EVER see protests against it either in Muslim media or in the form of people protesting in the streets? You disagree with Bin Laden yet you try to understand his motivations? Bin Laden is scum and going after him was the right thing. Those 3000 people that went down in the towers were about as guilty as a Chinese factory worker, buddy.

Thank you for your objective message, and wise analysis. I would like to answer some of your points: 1) I never justified terrorism and suicide bombings. But my point was that it did not come from absolute nigh. It came from despair and deep hatred that resulted from suffering, for example, occupation. It is a means that cannot be justified, but its cause is not insane. Its cause is not enslaving the world as George Bush stated in his last speech. I disagree with suicidal bombings against civilians wherever was that. Definitely we are on the same side on that. 2)Though suicidal bombings are horrible, i agree. Spanish Churches did even more horrible things to their people. Heroshima and Nagazaki was not a joke. Schools and Hospitals in Iraq were bombed and that cannot be excused. Horrors are commited during wars. They are not excused, but saying they are only done by Muslims doesn't seem to be true from my prospective. 3) My friend, Muslims do not hate jews, they hate occupation. You know, call it israel, and treat palestinians as citizens of the land with full citizenship rights, and problems solved (well, of course it is more complicated, but currently it is even more complicated). Muslims now have problems with USA because they occupy iraq. Muslims had problems with russia because they attacked Chechnya. Muslims hate Saddam because he was worse than USA's government to Muslims. It is not about religion, it is the concept of occupation. french resisted occupation, all europe did. Chinese resisted Japan. Vietnamese resisted USA. the list is endless. Muslims are just the same. Why is it condemned? because of suicidal bombings, I agree. They are horrible wrong means. Let's work on that, not shoot the whole nation of muslims in the head! it doesn't help! 4) All, except Malaysia, arab and islamic countries are corrupt, corrupt, corrupt. Shame on our governments. They are devious, hideous dirty like sh ...... Don't even get me started. I won't shut up! we agree. thank you again for your hatred-free, to say the least, discussion. Have a niceday.

Not to change the subject,but I heard that the "ZIONISTS" snuck in and stole the wedding presents. Am I wrong,but wont even the most moderate of Moslems sit idly by as the Zarqawi's and Bin Laden's and the new leader in Iran continue to plot and plan for the removal of Israel?It is fine and good to agree that terrorism is the wrong road to follow..but I'm afraid that even so-called Good Moslems are impotent to squash those shooting missiles and cutting off heads. I can see that by removing Iran and Syria from the map,then perhaps the zealotry of the Islamofascists might be diminshed to manageability. Sorry is I offended anyone out there.

Israel and USA are consistently violent. History of west is bloody all over. Isarel and USA are consistently violent against NON-COMPATANTs. Read the Red Cross Reports on civilian cajualties in Palestine (or Israel if you want), Iraq and Afghanistan. Arab countries always prosecute extremists. You've got just to read! Egypt Jordan Morroco, extemists cannot survive there unless under earth! Palestinians did a lot to stop terror, but Israel breaks all truces. Again, Saudi's fight terrorism that attacks west's interests in Saudia Arabia. News are all over the place!! The rest of your words are saying, "Israel is and angel and Palestinians are the devil". Well, nobody believes this. In Britain at least, they don't. Of course apart from BLAIR and GEORGE BUSH!! Keep hunting them my friend. I wish it works, but for your disappointment, it doesn't! GoodLuck!!

Wow your out look and ways of comparing world catastrophies are really,mind boggling.How can you justifiemurder in the name of Allah,simply because your "under occupation",You justifie the murder of innocent civiliens, woman and children,In the streets in shopping malls, in buses,in restaurants,all these murders ,because your under "occupation???"The Kurds the ETA,IRA,all fought for a state,yes & their methods were "CONDEMED WORLD WIDE"So please ,your "ONLY MUSLIM THEORY DOES NOT GO DOWN TO WELL"We are well aware of the problems in the west,and when these problems occur ,we try to fix them,even if it entails such mesures as going to war,But we in the west,are able to make our "MEA-CULPA,regaurding our mistakes,no matter how large they are,Why cant the Arabs admitt theirs???Every arab nation that exist on this planet ,lives under some form of dictatorship,and dominance by CORRUPT Gouvernments,You sayYou make mistakes and repent?when have you done penitence,for the murder of innocent victims blown to pieces,,smply because they do not wish to live with your beliefs.&when have you asked for help from the west???You say you do a lot more than blaming the JEWS,please forgive my Ignorance but this statement is diabolique,when you continue by saying that you die fighting for your beliefs.Would'nt it be better to fight for your rights while still on your feet???How can you compare the odd mad man in the USA that goes on a shooting spree,to the same lunatic fanatics, that kill hundreds ,of people in one go,with one single bomb,Youre finding excuses for these murderes ,and in the same way justifiying,their actions.You also state that you critisize,your selves,and try to change ,Well that my fellow,human,brother is something the world has yet to see PS is the statement by The Iranian government ,concerning the destruction of Israel, part of your learning and adaption???I ask in all true sincerity.

well..it was so amazing to see blood in jordan..it is AL kAEDA..and they said that and the jordanian security nabbed a terrorsit woman..terrorists r losers..and they dont belong to ISLAM..they want to let the whole world change his opinion abou muslims..and they will all lose..finally..i should say..the world should unite against terror.

I never gave murders any excuses, you gave the west murders new names like "measures". I compare all murders, yes. Your bombs killed thoursands of civilians in Iraq, Afghanistan, Cosovo, etc. You are accusing me of lying about that we've got retrospection, well, let me tell you, the west deeds to the weak and poor is embarassing. You love our corrupt governments because they take care of your interests in the region, but hated saddam because he went off the lines. We hated him and all of them because they are evil. The double standard is screaming in your words. Victims of western wars from innocent civilian dwarf the hideous terror you are talking about. Oh, yes, we condemned terrorists everywhere, the Islamic communities everywhere are condemning them ,and working eradicating these mistaken ideas engrained by radicals in the minds of some tiny minority of Muslims. Arab nations always admit their mistakes, look at the denial of Blair and Bush about the mistake in Iraq. Look at your denial of being biased to Israel, while any child will laugh at you if you mention that. We are poor because we are under dictatorships, but you elect idiots and fools, still i do not blame you, I blame them. I believe that people are excused, politicians are not. How can you compare the odd lunatic Muslim to the methodical eradication and ethnic genocides the west has commited in Bosnia, Palestine, Chenya and Cosovo? three of your fingers pointing at you. Iran stands by its position of not supporting occupation. convince them the Israel is not an occupation. but of course, for you terrorism is only a term that applies to Muslims, but state terror (I call it horrorism to give you the benefit of difference) that USA, UK, and the other coalition troops practice everyday in Muslim countries is called mandatory, and loving. France has a very moderate policy and Arabs and Muslims realise that, and cautiously appreciate it. In fear it is based on interests not justice and morals. Read more and try to remove the curtains off your eyes. You might be able to see the facts. Good luck.

You watched of course USA troops invading other countries, idly, didn't you? then talk about that. Muslims are doing a lot to fight terror, you just are blinded or do not want to see. The west is not doing much to change colonial ideologies and patronising behaviour. of course you do not mind Palestinians are already wiped off the map, but you cannot afford Israel to be. Well, I do not want israel to be wiped off the map. But I will make sure Palestine is rebourne. Do you mind? you don't even care, do you? Westerns are impotent to stop their armies invading other peoples lands, and stealing their resources? If we apply your line of thought about wiping off syria and Iran, then probably it is only fairer to wipe USA, Israel, UK as they have killed a lot more than Syria and Iran had. Of course you never read Red Cross reports, have you? I won't wipe off anybody of the land, but wont join you in calling for this to anyone too!

An excellent opinion piece for you to read, WH. Maybe it will open your eyes a little to what the rest of the world see. www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47409

Dear WH, My English might not be as good as yours but I will try to explain things the way I see them. You keep writing that Israel is occupying the Palestinian thus leaving them no other option but to fight through Terror. But I am also sure that you know history and that you are well aware that Israelis were attacked by terror attacks back in the 50's by Palestinians long before the "occupation" of the 67 war. Moreover, I served in the West Bank as a soldier and I saw the hate in their eyes. They hate us. You need to understand that Israel is not just occupying the land for fun. We have a struggle here between 2 nations that want to live on the same land. I know what's going on the Arab street since I have a few friends that are Arabs. They just can't stand the fact that that Jews have established a state in a land they belongs to them. As long as, they keep thinking like that, Israel should keep all the territories. When BOTH sides will want peace, I can assure you that most Israelis, including me, will give up on holding the West Bank. The Palestinians should stop their Terror attacks and you will see in a few months this area will bloom. Good Day, Y.K.

Well well...you are poor because you are under dictatorships...Why are you not toppling your tyrants? Obviously you are quite content with your RAISES, kings, sheikhs etc. Oh, I forgot, as some Muslims (including you) told me many times, Israel and USA are to blame for you being bereaved of democracy... "France has a very moderate policy and Arabs and Muslims realize that"...Apparently they realize it SOOOOOO well that they are buring cars, buildings, shooting at French police and performing other acts of vandalism...It is simply their way to manifest their deep appreciation and gratitude to France where they have been on the dole for generations... and do not feed me the crap that they get no jobs because of racism - How about because they lack skills? Or is it again Zionists who get the blame for that... We have a bunch of them in Sweden, also on the dole, also perpetrating "honour" killings and whining about the government that does not do enough for them...Who asked them to come here in the first place? How many can be regarded as political refugees? The overwhelming majority came here to find a better life with no need EVER to work...