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Labor MK defects to Kadima
Attila Somfalvi
Published: 29.11.05, 00:35
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1. DESPERATE
Daavid ,   USA   (11.28.05)
Can you believe that Peres, Belin and Sarid are willing to join Sharon's new party Kadima. It only shows how much Sharon moved to the left , how desperate those three are and how they will lead together Israel down the drain. How sad it is to see those three stoop so low just to be in politics. The Arab nations do not need to attack us any more .Our own leaders will destroy us soon.
2. Forward to N.W.O.
Marcel ,   Florida   (11.28.05)
P.M. Sharon has recieved his marching orders for 2006 and knows what hew has to do. The Palestinian State of New World Order Creator ,Bush is moving too slowly and must move Fast Forward. Judea &Smaaria must be cleansed of all Jews and for this painful retreat for the peace of george everyone is needed ,even the chameleon Netanyahu who is in lockstep ,as are most of Israel's political whore's ,with the paln to dissolve Israel in fave of the Arab majority who hold the pur$e $trings. The Jews are easily expendable in George's New World Order and. the majority will help in their own death ,loyal lemmings to their new fuherer.
3. We'll take any traitor. No waiting.
(11.28.05)
4. Sharon is the New Peres
Dudu ,   Kfar Sava   (11.28.05)
Sharon's only problem is that the Arabs do not want to divide the Land.
5. I can't believe it.....
David ,   Jerusalem   (11.28.05)
I can't believe it..... but I think I'm going to vote for Sharon!
6. Kadima with Sharon
Andy ,   Washington, D.C.   (11.28.05)
Arik will continue as PM. The right calls him a traitor and the left bulldozer (or even butcher). But the Kadima platform is the only chance to end the dispute with the Palestinians and achieve the borders, security and peace that Israel needs and deserves. Kol ha'kavod, Mr. Sharon!
7. When you hear it from the horse's mouth...."
Yosef ,   Israel   (11.28.05)
In politics, statements made even by St. Tzippy, are subject to denial by the boss himself. And even then, only if it said under oath in a court of law. Statements by "Sources in the PM's office", "advisors to Sharon" , "the PM's office" and even when the person has been identified have been 'corrected" or even denied when it suits him. Only the gullible will lend any credence to declarations.
8. BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!!
Michael Steiner ,   Praha, EU   (11.28.05)
Dr. Sharon is indeed super-human! His wisdom can be compared to that of Shlomo and his courage to David's. Arik understands the realities on the ground and is willing to adapt to them, while neither compromising his Jewish and Zionist ethos nor imperiling the security of the State. Arik gave his all in Israel's war for survival and now he is ensuring Israel's eternal survival by doing the only possible things to achieve peace. ARIK: MELEKH AL KOL HAARETZ!!!
9. ABSOLUTE Dhimmitude From Sharon's Kadima
Adina kutnicki ,   Nj   (11.28.05)
A new Dhimmni is unveiled today. Sharon has now declared that total appeasement and total debasement are the best chances for Israel's survival. If Bush were to announce that he were giving up half of the US to Al-Qadea, what would all the US patriots do?? Think about what I just wrote very clearly, and then you will know what to do.
10. There is no democracy. Sharon is a dictator.
(11.28.05)
11. Sharon says this while Qassams rain in the South. Pathetic.
(11.28.05)
12. Finally - able to vote.
Elisheva ,   Jerusalem   (11.28.05)
At least now, with a major party laying out as their platform a potential Palestinian state, the people of Israel can decide what they want when they vote in the next elections.
13. Question for American Jews
AB ,   Haifa   (11.28.05)
If Kadima wins and the Israeli public votes to give the Palestinians their own state will you butt out of our business or will you be calling all of us traitors?
14. The lands liberation from Zionism
Mohammed ,   Jerusalem Palestine   (11.29.05)
Sharon needs to take the ultimate state of supporting the return of the entire land of Palestine to its owners. Half measures won't due. It is our land and we will not rest until every last refugee returns to his home.
15. To AB # 13-
Adina kutnicki ,   Nj   (11.29.05)
We certainly wouldn't be calling all Israelis traitors if Kadima gets the most votes; just delusional, beaten down, appeasement minded , gullible. These are a few of the adjectives that would come to mind. I also wouldn't dismiss the Sharon "sticky finger" factor in terms of buying off votes.
16. To # 14 - Mohammed -The One Who Doesn't Know geography well
Adina kutnicki ,   NJ   (11.29.05)
Mohammed, the poor deluded chap that you are - First off, there is no such place as Jerusalem, Palestine. If you do live in Jerusalem, you live in Jerusalem, Israel. Get your location facts straight. Don't think for a nanosecond that because Sharon is in the chokehold of outside interests, that the Jewish people of Israel will let him destroy the country and hand it over to genocidal killers. You really don't know what enraged Jews are capable of doing to defend themselves . Guys and gals - it is an implacable attitude like Mohammed's that should make you finally realize that there is no "peace", only death on the horizon if you don't deal with the fifth column in your midst.
17. Reply to # 13
Truth ,   NYC, USA   (11.29.05)
When Israel dosent give in to pressure from the U.S.- That's when we will but out. When U.S. Jews sont stuff so much cash into Israel and it's economy, THEN we will butt out. When U.S. Jews stop doing Aliyah, Then we'll Butt out. When U.S. Jews are not the top lobbyists for Israel, Then we will butt out. When U.S. Jews stop caring about the land that belong's to ALL jews (even the Israeli government admits that-Aliyah etc...)ONLY THEN will we butt out. Thank you for letting me-an american Jew-voice my opinion.
18. #13, you mean a second Arab Palestinian state?
David Landman ,   Natick, USA   (11.29.05)
I want whatever is best for Israel and Jews, but not at the expense of others. As long as Jerusalem remains the undivided capital of Israel and all Jewish holy sites including Hebron remain a part of Israel I am all for it. I dont care if its a religious government, conservative, liberal, well, with the exception of wackos like Yahad/Meretz. One Israel for one people with high Jewish birthrates, religious freedom, all people having to serve in the IDF, acceptance of Masorti Judaism and a thriving minority. While I dont live in Israel, it is still my homeland also and I want whats best for Israel.
19. Adina kutnicki
Mike   (11.29.05)
A questions to Adina kutnicki. Where are you from, before US? Are you Jewish? Why the hick are you so fanatic? If you are enjoying your time is the US, shut up. If not, go to Israel and see how both nations are suffering and then you can judge and spread your instigation. This is not about American Jews hard-line opinion, this is about tow nations who want to live in peace and stopped by people like you.
20. Not Most American Jews
David ,   New York   (11.29.05)
It's not the majority of American Jews who have the nerve to call Israelis "traitors" or any of Adina "I'm In New Jersey But My Son Was In The Army" Kutnicki's other ridiculous nonsense. Just the usual crowd of Right-Wing loudmouths who try to intimidate and bully with their lies and hyperbole. Every poll has shown that the vast majority of American Jews supported the disengagement, just like most Israelis supported it.
21. To Mohammed and his Ilk
Digital Heretic ,   The Holy Land   (11.29.05)
As stated by a previous writer, your statement is proof that Israel is in greater danger than ever. "Palestinian" People do not exist and never have. The creation of a such a state is only a means for continuing the struggle against the state of Israel. This is a quote from Yassir Arafat. The region known as Palestine was ruled alternately by Rome and the Ottoman empire and briefly by the Brits after WWI. It was the Brits who agreed to restore part of that land to the Jewish people as their ancestral homeland. It was NEVER ruled by arabs as a separate nation. Those armed with the facts can easily defeat your lies. Bring back Netanyahu!
22. Kadima Platform as Announced by Livni
Joe ,   The Land of Promises   (11.29.05)
Two years ago at the Herziliya Conference, Sharon declared his support for a Palestinian state with conditions. Remember? In the ensuing two years advancement towards this goal, especially efforts made by Sharon have been zero. Without this statement of a Palestinian state, the defectors from Labor and the anxious from Meretz , could never join Kadima in any shape or form. When one becomes aware of his nakedness, one grabs the nearest fig leaf.
23. i bet that #14 is the same person # 9 and 15
aa ,   london   (11.29.05)
24. Sharon is realistic
Emily ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (11.29.05)
The reality on the ground here is that Jews and Arabs have been killing each other. The Arabs kill Jews because they reject the right for Israel to exist. The Jews kill Arabs mainly as a result of self-defense. This situation cannot go on forever. There is too much suffering on both sides. Sharon is the only one offering a realistic way out of the mess, i.e., for Israel to determine its own defensible borders and to unilaterally dissengage from highly populated Arab areas.
25. To post #2
Noah ,   New York, NY   (11.29.05)
The only new order is our order to you to check into the nearest looney bin. You are so crazy, you make all the other posters here look sane - and that's saying something!
26. To Adina, #9
Noah ,   New York, NY   (11.29.05)
Hey Adina, If you're so upset about the so-called "appeasement and total debasement", what are you doing here safe in NJ? Why don't you go over there? Oh I forgot, it's better to sit in some Lakewood yeshiva, urging other people to die for you. -Noah
27. Sharon forms "labor", Peretz transforms Labor to "meretz"
Ilan ,   Ariel   (11.29.05)
28. Adina and New Jersey and Yeshiva #26
david ,   Yerushalayim   (11.29.05)
A yeshivah is the last place you'll find Adina. She is not religious, or even knowledgeable about the Jewish religion. She does however urge other people to die for her, while sitting safe in New Jersey. Although her son served as a volunteer in the Israeli army, as she likes to point out. And people at Yeshivah in Lakewood aren't the ones doing that urging. It's people like Adina and Bunnie Meyer (the one with demonstrations outside her Santa Monica store for racist signs in the windows, against Mexicans and Arabs). ..the nutjobs.
29. Kadimah
Yossi ,   The Land of Promises   (11.29.05)
Was I seeing things? Or did I see the Minister of Justice, Tzippy Livni sitting with a convicted criminal, Omri Sharon at the founding of Kadimah?
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