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Undercover unit exposed in Bethlehem
Yossi Yehoshua
Published: 30.11.05, 11:04
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1. Israel needs to coordinate with the PA
A Bethlehemite ,   Palesitne   (11.30.05)
It's not easy, but Israel needs to coordinate with the PA. As the Israelis do not like attacks in their cities, the Pali civilains feel the same. You have to understand the the Pals need a sense of peace & normality but these constant incursions will just increase the tension and the retaliations. Not to mention injuring or killing innocent civilians . I do believe both governments need to start working together to bring certain people for questions etc. The idf cant keep acting as the judge, jury and the execitioner.
2. well well....Violation of " Authority"
Ramzi Sfeir ,   Bethlehem,Palestine   (11.30.05)
seems like the old days of the Mossad , and all these illegal groups , didnt end yet! As long as such little terrorist groups will keep operating under the umbrella of the State of Israel, the comparison between them and the Russian intelligence is to be Made.... all activities violating and undermining the authority of the Legal,elected,legitimized,chosen authority must get condemned and punished, I didnt say it, International law did! These UnderCover rats must one day be judged for entering the Palestinian Territories without a Permit and more than that, They entered Armed! Such tourists are not needed at all! On your side of the Wall, the ones from us who do this are called TERRORISTS, whether they kill or not, So dear readers, Accept this : These people are Terrorists! Official Terrorists who recieve their salary from the state of israel..i honestly cant see a difference between them and Hamas Militants!
3. Ramzi
R   (11.30.05)
If you can't see the difference between those who are trying to arrest a suspected terrorist and those who blow up a bus of civilians or shoot an unguided Qassam into a civilian neighborhood - then you a either blind, a fool, or both.
4. Ramzi....
Gil ,   Tel Aviv   (11.30.05)
Calm down man they were hardly murdering anyone were they?? They tried to arrest people who had apparently commited crimes. that's a bit different to hamas who deliberately target civillians for murder. Also, how else can we arrest wanted millitants in the PA side? these are guys who have murdered our people and are roaming free.
5. israel will not learn until????
ali   (11.30.05)
Israeli will only learn until they lose few of their sum bags???? Why they are still going deep into palestinian areas.???? Israel is always looking for trouble.?? trouble for israel is like water for fish....???
6. Who were they trying to arrest?
Howard ,   Pacific Coast, USA   (11.30.05)
7. #1 Sure George
tinashkuli   (11.30.05)
And I suppose the US needs to co-ordinate with Al Qaeda.
8. #2 THERE NEVER WAS AN ARAB COUNTRY OF PALESTINE
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (11.30.05)
The JEWISH holy city of Bethlehem is sacred to Jews and Christians. Global jihad is empowered as Islamofascists receive amazing help in the jihad against Israel from the international community. The entire world will pay the price of an Islamic terror state in Israel. THERE NEVER WAS AN ARAB COUNTRY OF PALESTINE. Jerusalem was NEVER the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. JERUSALEM IS MENTIONED OVER 800 TIMES IN THE BIBLE, not once in the Koran. Around 1948, Arabs violently ETHNICALLY CLEANSED about one million Jews from Arab countries. Arab governments seized the land, homes, bank accounts, businesses and assets of the Jews. Most of the Jewish refugees fled to Israel. THERE MUST NOW BE A JUST SETTLEMENT FOR THE JEWISH REFUGEES AND THEIR DESCENDANTS-COMPENSATION IN LAND AND FINANCES. In 1922, Britain illegally gave MOST OF PALESTINE-80% TO THE ARABS. The area became Jordan, giving the Arabs an Arab Palestinian state on JEWISH land. IT WAS ETHNICALLY CLEANSED OF JEWS. This area is part of ancient, Biblical Israel, and along with present-day Israel, including Judea, Samaria, Gaza and the Golan was recognized by the League of Nations as the Jewish homeland. In 1948, Egypt invaded Gaza and ethnically cleansed ALL Jews. In 1948, Jordan invaded Judea-Samaria (West Bank) and east Jerusalem and ETHNICALLY CLEANSED ALL JEWS. Jordan, opposing G-D DESTROYED 58 synagogues in Jerusalem. In 1967 when Israel won Islam's religious war of aggression against it, Jews returned to the areas of their homeland they had been ethnically cleansed from for 19 years. Islamofascists DECEITFULLY call this return "occupation". Under international law, territories are considered "occupied" only when taken in an act of aggression which does not apply to Israel. Judea, Samaria and Gaza are not 'occupied territories' according to international law because they were not taken from any foreign sovereign. ALL of the Jewish land, homes, properties and businesses stolen from the Jews in the 1948 Islamic invasion must be returned to the Jews IMMEDIATELY
9. Intrusions ?
Marcel ,   Florida   (11.30.05)
The Palestinians have many demands whichj they bark loudly. Israel under great pressure has become the trained lap dog which obediently defecates on herself to please her master who divides her land as a reward to the Islamic Jihadist's. Eventually Israel will awaken and demand that all Palestinian and FOREIGN intrusions end and FINALLY defeat the Palestinian's . To coordinate anything with the Palestinian Terrorist Authority is to doom it to failure. At least the IDF knows this already.
10. Ramzi_S
tinashkuli   (11.30.05)
Since when is going after terrorists who are responsible for the murder of Israelis against International law? And maybe if the PA did their job, and arrested these people, Israel wouldn't have to do it.
11. to ali #5
Yakir ,   Swiss   (11.30.05)
we clean palestine of terrorists, so they wont be able to kill innocent israelis... are you stupid that you dont understand such logic things?
12. 8 linda- that's daisy's trademark post, an oldie but goodie!
mike ,   usa   (11.30.05)
cut, paste, repeat. please, give us more - the same posts are just as exciting now as the first 400 times you post them!
13. Linda, Start dealing with the facts on the ground.
R   (11.30.05)
Beating a dead horse doesn't do anyone any good. Must be nice to spew worthless drivel from the safety of the USA. Try living here.
14. #2
Jane ,   New York   (11.30.05)
No one flew up a nargilla club or hummus joint filled with kids.
15. #5
Jane ,   New York   (11.30.05)
Israel will "learn" when you have a civilized society. Ready to have that and do what is necessary to maintain it, Ali?
16. #13Facts on ground-TREMENDOUS HOSTILITY TO JEWS & CHRISTIANS
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (11.30.05)
In Israel, Jews and Christians are treated as the scum of the earth. Christians in PA areas are forced to live under cruel occupation by PLO/PA. Implanting savage PLO terrorists into Israel as "peace" partners for Israel through Oslo is the MOST HOSTILE ACT TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE SINCE THE HOLOCAUST.
17. #13 WICKED POLITICAL AGENDA IGNORES PERSECUTED PA CHRISTIANS
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (11.30.05)
#13 Try living in the PA controlled area as a NON-MUSLIM. The extremely wicked U.S. EU UN political agenda includes forcing Christians to live under horrific Islamic Sharia law. TAKE BETHLEHEM & OTHER CHRISTIAN TOWNS INSIDE GREEN LINE NOW! PLO terrorists conducted barbaric jihad against Lebanon's Christians murdering huge numbers. www.free-lebanon.com Click on photo gallery - 20,000 Christians handicapped by PLO atrocities. PLO savagery was rewarded. The PLO terrrorists were implanted into Israel as "peace" partners through Oslo to continue their jihad. Christians in PA areas suffer horrendous persecution under cruel occupation of PA/PLO and other terrorist organizations. Christianity Dying In Its Birthplace By Daniel Pipes FrontPageMagazine.com | September 13, 2005 http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=19453 "What some observers are calling a pogrom took place near Ramallah, West Bank, on the night of Sep. 3-4. That’s when fifteen Muslim youths from one village, Dair Jarir, rampaged against Taybeh, a neighboring all-Christian village of 1,500 people. The Ajajs and their friends broke into houses and stole furniture, jewelry, and electrical appliances. They threw Molotov cocktails at some buildings and poured kerosene on others, then torched them. The damage included at least 16 houses, some stores, a farm, and a gas station. The assailants vandalized cars, looted extensively, and destroyed a statue of the Virgin Mary. “It was like a war,” one Taybeh resident told The Jerusalem Post. Hours passed before the Palestinian Authority security and fire services arrived. The fifteen assailants spent only a few hours in police detention, then were released. As for Khouriyye, the Palestinian police arrested him, kept him jail, and (his family says) have repeatedly beat him. A cousin, Suleiman Khouriyye, pointed to his burned house. “They did this because we’re Christians. They did this because we are the weaker ones.” The Khouriyyes and others recall the assailants shouting Allahu Akbar and anti-Christian slogans: “Burn the infidels, burn the Crusaders.” This assault fits a larger pattern. According to the Catholic Custodian of the Holy Land, Pierbattista Pizzaballa, Christians in the Bethlehem region alone have suffered 93 cases of injustice in 2000-04. In the worst of these, in 2002, Muslims murdered the two Amre sisters, 17 and 19 years old, whom they called prostitutes. A post-mortem, however, showed the teenagers to have been virgins – and to have been tortured on their genitals. “Almost every day – I repeat, almost every day – our communities are harassed by the Islamic extremists in these regions,” Pizzaballa says. “And if it’s not the members of Hamas or Islamic Jihad, there are clashes with … the Palestinian Authority.” In addition to the Islamists, a “Muslim land mafia” is said to operate. With PA complicity. it threatens Christian land and house owners, often succeeding to compel them to abandon their properties. The campaign of persecution has succeeded...Bethlehem and Nazareth, historic Christian towns for nearly two millennia, are now primarily Muslim. In 1922, Christians outnumbered Muslims in Jerusalem; today, Christians amount to a mere 2 percent of that city’s population." "Islamic mafia accused of persecuting Holy Land Christians" http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/09/09/wmid09.xml Every single agreement has been broken by the PA/PLO, rendering Oslo, Road Map and ALL agreements NULL AND VOID. IDF, HELP! Stop Islamic cruelty. Liberate Christians from ALL terrorist organizations now!
18. Duvdevan = rotten cherry
(11.30.05)
This unit is shit. Look at this rubbish, they dont want to take part in operations because they are scared, they shoot eachother by mistake etc etc Disband this funny nonsense unit. The Shayetet can do this job. The Sayeret Matkal can do this job. Even Shaldag and Egoz can do this job. Send soldiers who are not afraid to do this work and who actually perform well, instead of cherry blossoms who belong in magav not tzavah
19. Linda your picnic basket has a sandwhich missing...
Gil ,   Tel Aviv   (12.01.05)
20. linda, you're so pretty
mike ,   usa   (12.01.05)
21. IDF justified to take down a scum bag terrorist anywhere.
Bunnie Meyer ,   Santa Monica, CA   (12.01.05)
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