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Netanya attack: Security fence fails, again
Hanan Greenberg
Published: 05.12.05, 17:40
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1. THE SITUATION AT THE RAFIAH CROSSING-TOTAL NEGLECT
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (12.05.05)
Yediot Ahronot-Hebrew, 1Dec05 The Situation at the Rafiah Crossing - Total Neglect - Yossi Yehoshua Less than a week has gone by since the Rafiah crossing was opened between Gaza and Egypt and the Israeli security establishment is extremely worried by the new reality, which was defined Wednesday by a senior security source as "total neglect." Army sources argue that because of pressure by Secretary of State Rice, the agreement had been signed too hurriedly, without providing an answer to Israeli security needs. According to the Israeli understanding of the agreement, the Israeli-Palestinian joint command center was supposed to obtain comprehensive information about whomever is passing from Gaza to Egypt and the reverse. In actuality, since the crossing has been opened, Israel only receives pictures of whomever is crossing and only eight minutes or so later information arrives about the identity of the person passing through. In that time, it is possible to go through the crossing without Israeli security authorities knowing the identity of the person. A senior member of the General Security Services remarked: "It's like watching a movie without any voice or subtitles." After raising the matter with the EU representative, it became clear that there was no common understanding. The EU's Italian general argued that he doesn't recognize a requirement to pass on data to Israel in real time. Maj.-Gen. (res.) Amos Gilad, who heads the political-military section of the Ministry of Defense, stated that the critical clause exists: "With this situation, the agreement is worthless." (Yediot Ahronot-Hebrew, 1Dec05)
2. iranian provocation..........
(12.05.05)
3. Territories can be hermetically sealed
Sam Klein ,   Geneva, Switzerland   (12.05.05)
Of course the territories can be sealed. Just build the fence, from the Dead Sea all the way round the West Bank and back to the Sea again, and lay landmines either side of it. You don't see many infiltrators from Syria, where the border is mined, do you? Of course, that requires the political will to leave the Yesha crowd outside the fence. So in reality, the only reason Israel is unprotected is to satisfy the right-wingers.
4. Palestinian T.V.
Marcel ,   Florida   (12.05.05)
The terrorist are invited into Israel with work permits . Under pressure from girl Condi ,the wimps Mofaz and Sharon bend and release terrorists,open up the entry points to the enemy.,. Meanwhile the Palestinian T.V is used to broadcast the 'heroic' last video of this killer giving hime honor and martyr status. A mentally derrranged Israel allows this P.A. T.V. to continue. Israel ruled by fools who just can't say no.
5. EXPELLING THEM WON'T
(12.05.05)
6. so then let them continue to kill. What kind of bullshit
Avraham ,   BerSheva   (12.05.05)
is this Mr. Greenberg? What failed is Abbas and his culture of hate and death. Walking in the steps of arafat but wearing a business suit does not make for a statesmen. Nor does diplomats and fucked up Presidents from the west who call Abbas a man of peace.
7. #3 ISLAMISTS DESTROY ISRAEL THROUGH DIPLOMACY & VIOLENCE
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (12.05.05)
The Road Map Islamic terror state compacts TINY Israel into the world's most over-crowded Jewish ghetto, reducing Israel to 9 miles wide at mid-section! No longer a viable country, and TOTALLY INDEFENSIBLE. PLO/Palestinian Authority leader, terrorist Abbas, was Arafat's partner for over 40 years. Shortly after Oslo, Arafat explained on Jordanian TV the PLO strategy adopted in 1974: "Since we cannot defeat Israel in war, we do this in stages. We take any and every territory we can of Palestine, and establish sovereignty there, and we use it as a springboard to take more. When the time comes, WE CAN GET THE ARAB NATIONS TO JOIN US FOR THE FINAL BLOW AGAINST ISRAEL."
8. it's better than nothing
mike ,   usa   (12.05.05)
as long as they complete it. build it high and wide!
9. get out of occupied areas
(12.05.05)
and maybe even ISRAEL all together- the Palestinians were their first and besides ther USA is sick of welfaring the jew biblical exile myth welfare colony.
10. Read #9 and you should get the answers
AK   (12.05.05)
#9 tells you outright what he is planning for the Jews -- get out of Israel, or they'll keep on killing you. Now, it is for the Israelis to decide, do they intend to fight to win the war with the Arabs or keep on dying until they completely surrender, while shooting a few missiles into empty building from time to time. There is no other way. Israelis must choose again like they did in 1948, only now they have a far better army. The question is, do they still have morale to fight or do they want to live in a Diaspora again. The answer is up to Israelis. But first they must get a new leadership. I do hope they will find an Israeli Churchill soon.
11. wake up israelis !!!!
aa ,   london   (12.05.05)
walls will never save you , atomic bombs will never save either , your tanks and f 16s will not either , your occupation will distroy you , palestinians are willing to accept you as a neighber and you will never have a better neighber than the palestinians, they want to live just like any other person in this world , they can be the worst people ever , if they are occupied and if they are being treated like shit , and they can be the best friends ever if they are treated equel , do not blame the suicide bombers because they have been under an ugly occupation , just like i will not blame all the west bank and gaza settlers because they where givin a free home in a land that does not belong to them , and they are also fighting for it except for the palestinians have been living in there land hundreds of years more than those settlers , stop the occupation , get out of the west bank and let the palestinians live just like the rest of the human race so you and your children can live in peace , and if i where you i would think of my children beforre myself because what you are doing now is distroying your children .... please , please , please israel wake up and free the palestinians for the are not the natzis who killed the 6000000 jews , so why are you punishing them ....................
12. aa; Arabs should stop their occupation of Jewish land!
Daisy ,   USA   (12.05.05)
Mecca is their homeland and they should go back. "Palestinians" don't exist! http://www.sullivan-county.com/id3/palestine.htm
13. To #11
Traveler ,   New Zealand   (12.05.05)
Israel has offered to end the occupation several times, but the palestinians don't only wish to end the occupation. They have other agendas as well as Jerisalem and the Refugees, and even though some groups among them don't accept any kind of agreement with Israel. so "Wake Up", or the way it looks in London, I don't think that the terrorists in London were under "British Occupation".
14. #11 I hope no Israeli buys into your propaganda
AK   (12.06.05)
#9 had said it all – Jews better get out first from the Judea and Samaria and then the rest, or they’ll get killed. Anybody who still believes that any kind of treaties or negotiations will stop this war is clearly delusional. No treaties, no more “land for peace” no more jobs for the enemy. Israelis must fight to win. Remember, British may preach about the restraint to the Israelis, but after the first London terror attack, they have no qualms about blowing up the brains of a perfectly innocent man, because they thought he just might be a terrorist. British thus demonstrated total lack of restraint -- shot first and ascertained all the facts later.
15. Response
Jayson ,   USA   (12.06.05)
The response to these murderous scum should be a wholesale artillery bombing of the neighborhood from which he came. Then see if the family still glorifies and condones the murders. Islam is a disgusting blood thirsty "religion" of death. The Bible describes the descedants of Ishmael as being "wild asses of men" and there could be no better description that we can give today. Yes, there may be some peace loving Muslims in the world, but I don't really hear of any which leads me to believe they do not exist in any significant number. Islam is a death culture, and Muslims can be dealt with in only one way, with overwhelming force and destruction. It is only then that they can be kept in check. Every time a Kassam is sent over or a murder bomber does his death dance, Israel should send in 100 times the amount of force to retaliate, first by bombing the killer's family (with no warning to them) and then by bombing at least one square block without warning in the same neighborhood. We''ll see how fast these attacks stop after that.
16. 11 - what are you smoking, snifting or ingesting
Mark ,   Cleveland, OH   (12.06.05)
The Pal's have no intention of being neighbors, let alone good neighbors to Israel; their stated intention is to destroy Israel. Israel's only hope is to make the Pals realize they cannot win by force. Until the Israelis stop codling the Pals and make their life so miserable after every missile or homicide bomber attack, they will never learn the road to peace is not violence. Making nice to them and thier murderious government is not the way to peace
17. Go Home
Anne ,   New Zealand   (12.06.05)
If the ""Palistinians"" and i use that word lightly, all went home Israel will become the paradise it is meant to be .Jane is correct Israel is becoming a ghetto .Israel will never have peace as long as these murdering pallies are in the ERETZ YSRAEL
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