Opinion  Sever Plocker
Nuclear Islamo-fascism
Sever Plocker
Published: 11.12.05, 14:34
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1. internal regime change
Shayan ,   Iran   (12.11.05)
is the only option. it benefits the Iranians as well as pretty much rest of the cevilized world. i dont kjnow how thoug? maybe we have to hit the bottom first!
2. HIT IRAN NOW
DEBRA ,   USA   (12.11.05)
SEVER PLOCKER. YOU SEE THE SITUATION AND THE REPONSE AS CLEAR AS A BELL. THE TIME IS NOW.
3. No comments
alex   (12.11.05)
Israel is not a country, it is a military base. On 1 jew about 200 arabs. Doesn't say this something?
4. What is Israel.
danial ,   huston, texas   (12.11.05)
Israel not a country but a military base. Iran crazy but will never attack Israel becouse it going to be danger for them.
5. Unfortunately NO Options Left But To Strike
Adina Kutnicki ,   NJ, US   (12.11.05)
There is no other option. The sooner the Sharon regime employs Project Daniel the better off the world will be. Sometimes inaction is a good thing because it allows cooler heads to prevail. However, in this case, as it would have been in Hitler's case, there is NO other option. I hope that G-d will be watching over the entire IAF and other forces involved. They will not be able to succeed with just a wing and no prayer.
6. Nuclear Islamo-fascism
Terry Talbot ,   Madison, USA   (12.11.05)
All nuclear capabilities in the world are a threat to world peace. The never before remark is somewhat disingenuous, as Israel itself is a nuclear power that exhibits a strong interest in getting rid of the Islamic entities of the middle east. And of course, my own country reserves the right of "first strike" if we perceive a possible threat to our security (which could mean just about anything). Your article falls under thye "Do as I say, not as I do" catagory. Thank you, Terry
7. Moral relativism
likwidshoe   (12.11.05)
You can't tell the difference between Islamo-fascism and the freest country in the Middle East? That free country would be Israel by the way.
8. Israel is the freest country in the Middle East.
likwidshoe   (12.11.05)
But ignore that and make stupid moral relativist comments. You have already displayed your inability to tell the difference.
9. Israel.
(12.11.05)
Israel is the freest to be agressive? or to kill? or to occupy? or treat its arab minorities racially? or may be to use internationally prohibited weapons? oh, may be the freest to oppress the palestinians? Freest!!! give the world a break. I would rather build a country on the malaysian model rather than the israeli one!! ... Moral Relativism!! you are a joke!
10. Ignorance
spezza ,   Kitchener, Canada   (12.11.05)
Iraq was invaded on the pretext of being ruling by a tryant with WMD. The argument put forth in this article rehashes all these themes, except now Iran fills those nuclear shoes. The United States has already invaded one country with terrible results, why not try a different method this round.
11. Peretz and him would get along well
EvMan ,   Israel   (12.11.05)
12. #1 But wil the world survive the wait for you to change?
AK   (12.11.05)
13. Terry, Israel has proved its benevolent credentials ...
AK   (12.11.05)
it didn't strike Arab invaders in 1973, so you argument is entirely spurious.
14. IDisarming Iran is an international responsibility
AK   (12.11.05)
Israel is too small and vulnerable country to act on its own. It is like expecting Czechoslovakia to contain Nazi Germany in 1938. We're repeating the same mistakes of 67 years ago, to our shame and peril.
15. Where's your head with regard to the Palestinians?
(12.12.05)
Islamofascism is islamofacism.
16. NO OTHER CHOICES
ed ,   Toronto, Canada   (12.12.05)
It is now very clear that the Europeans, Russia, China and all other global powers will not take any decisive action against Iran because of the financial interests, and that, specifically the American will continue sitting on the side because of lack the political and public support to take any action against Iran due to the situation in Iraq. Accordingly, it is very clear that either Israel accepts a nuclear Iran or engages in a confrontation, expecting, alone or, in the best case scenario, with a tacit and quiet support from some of these countries. It seems that Israel has no other practical option but to to go ahead and act alone and leave the mess of the day-after to others. This operation will be significantly more complex than the operation against Iraq's Osirak nuclear reactor, requiring in this case, coordinated covert and ouvert actions aimed to cancel, disrupt or at least delay for a significant time Iran's nuclear program while removing from power the mullahs (which are fanatic, lunatic clerics rulling Iran), while minimizing collateral damage that could hurt the civilian Iranian population, against whom Israel have nothing. It seems that a simultaneous attack against the military chain of command, the facilitators, and the radical mullahs in the decision making chain, in parallel with a decisive bombing of key nuclear facilities as well as the command, communications and control infrastructure will allow to remove the mullahs from power, stop or delay Iran’s nuclear weapons program without a terrible military or political price to pay. This operation shall be done in parallel to a most aggresive PR blitz aimed to minimize the aftershock effect. True, we must be ready that it will trigger a loud condemnation from friends and foes (even though many will applaud and nod off-the-record),and that some countries will call their embassadors, or some will entertain embargoes or even sanctions...but we have some experience and can assume that the noise will almost disappear within a few weeks, by which time, we will see a new government in Iran. The key to this operation is the public relations- PR campaign which shall be handled in such a way that Iranians (after the mullahs) wil not be looking for a revenge and will accomodate with the West.
17. #16 Iranian people not the enemy of West
(12.12.05)
The Mullah's are the enemy of the West (and the far East). But the Iranian people which badly wants non theocratic state run by dictators is not the enemy. The nuclear facilities should have been destroyed a year ago by France, Germany, and Britian. Russia should have been compensated for its Iranian nuclear trade. Now we are approaching a point of no return. The trouble is that Iran is scrambling right now to spread its targets far and wide. We have waited too long. But we can and must take out the nuclear assets that are still exposed and the sooner the better. Time is running out. March is too late
18. Do not conflict with the iranians
Ronni ,   Tel Aviv   (12.12.05)
Do not conflict with the iranians, The west will leave now, I mean the USA is leaving Iraq, so it is important not to make war with a big nation like Iran.
19. Ahmadinejad : Bringer of Good news
Daniel ,   Amsterdam   (12.12.05)
I love Ahmadinejad. Just think about it, there was no Holocaust! When do we get our families back? What a kind man this Ahmadinejad? He want us to move to Europe. Really, which Israeli wouldn't prefer to live in Skandinavia? This man is really a friend of the Jews. He wishes a higher standard of living on us and claims our families are still alive and well. And he's no Holocaust denier either since he is threatening us with a whole fresh new Holocaust.
20. War with Iran. #16
(12.12.05)
Obviously you think that Israel is capable of doing a fully fledged attack on Iran, with minimal damage. Well, let me remind you: 1. Israel failed to stop Egyptians from getting back their Sinai. 2. Israel failed to stay in Beirut in 1981. 3. Israel failed to stop the first Uprising 1987 in Gaza and West bank. They had to sign Oslo, and gained 7 years of peace. Without peace this would have been impossible. 4. Israel failed to stop the second uprising 2000 in Gaza and West bank. They had to disengage from Gaza UNILATERALLY. Palestinians did not have to give them anything for this concession. Free launch? does not exit, they lost a military battle ground to the Palestinian Resistence, Gorrila, Militants, or Terrorists if you call them so. They won. 5. Israel had to leave UNILATERALLY south lebanon under Hizbollah's fire. Up to now, Israel wishes hizbollah stop attacking them. They could not do a fully fledged attack gainst Hizbollah, how can they manage Teheran? Iran is not iraq, and the USA lost iraq war. If israel attacks iran, the existence of israel is in jeopardy. Unless israel attacks with nuclear weapons, Israel's war toll will be too high to take. A nuclear attack is too risky, it might ignite a Total war in the region, such war will take us back hundreds of years, a confrontation that nobody nowadays would like to attend. Of course except some lunatics, racists, and idiots.
21. Fcae it, you will now deal with a Nuclear Iran...Period!!
Effendi ,   Seattle, USA   (12.12.05)
I read through these comments and many of the things that are said on both sides are accurate. I understand the tough talk from the israeli's, after all it may be their survival at stake. However I also understand the posture of the Iranians, Why should israel be allowed to threaten with Nukes and not the Persians? israel will NOT attack Iran..Period. here is why. An israeli attack may prove their total demise. The Mullahs are a problem to the Iranian people and the world BUT they will not attack israel unless provoked. The US will not attack Iran with or without the israeli's, We have our hands full in Iraq with no end in site. There are 5 million israeli's and 90 MILLION Persians, This would not be like the "success" the US has experienced in Iraq. With the very first American bomb on Tehran either from israel or the US, the Mullahs will instantly acquire what they have never had before, the Unification of the Iranian people behind them. With Hezbollah distinctly Iranian Shia, any such attack will galvanize the Shia in Iraq to increase from one Zarqawi to 1,000 of the same. Despite all of the "noise" I keep hearing from certain circles in regards to attacking Iran, It will never happen. Because neither the US or israel can afford to open that Pandora's box. Bottom Line, better get prepared to deal with Iranian Nuclear Capability. I feel like what we see now is how the world is likely to progress for years to come. The Mullahs will NOT be taken from power and any attempt at such a plan will only strengthen them. ALL of you fools screaming for an immediate attack on Iran have Not for ONE SECOND considered the consequences to the rest of your people and the world. Iran will NEVER pre-emtively strike israel as the zionists claim. They are not stupid and they don't want to insure their destruction with such a move. I suggest that so many of you do yourself a great favor and enjoy a nice cup of tea and stop threatening and puffing your chests out. Israel will NEVER be "wiped off the map" and Iran will NEVER be attacked!! Scott!!
22. End the Iranian threat
Ben ,   huntingtonwoods USA   (12.13.05)
Israel has the best Special Forces in the world. Israel man for man has probably the best air force in the world. How hard can it be to take out any nuclear facilities Iran might have? If Sharon fails to take quick action I urge all of you to vote Likud instead of his new centrist Kadima party.
23. Zionist warmongers (in far off New York)
accessol ,   Spelthorne, England   (12.13.05)
It is 'facism' apparently to deny Israel's right to exist but at the same time perfectly kosher to deny the same right to the Palestinians. I notice that the most strident calls for war with Iran emanate from the brave Zionists on America; I wonder how many of them will be volunteering to fly off to Israel if the war they are yearning for proves as unsuccessful as that other Zionist hyped attack, the murderous disaster in Iraq (with its over two thousand US dead, fighting to protect the Zionist state). Instead of Jewish volunteers from the US, we will more likely see the reverse, the mass exodus of American yeshiva bochers to Zurich the moment war looms, as we experienced in earlier wars.
24. Say goodbye to IRAN
Sir FrancisDeBaildon ,   USA   (12.13.05)
Read about post WWII Germany to see IRAN future. Kiss your IRANIAN asses goodbye. PS no virgins for dead Iranians, the Al Quaida beat you to them!
25. Nuke Free Zone in Mid East
Paul ,   Brooklyn, US   (12.13.05)
Israelis have reason to be nervous, but an attack on Iran would solidify its people behind the Mullahs and truly open up Pandora's Box. Quite a dilemma. If Israel offered to participate in an internationally enforced nuclear free zone including the Arab world plus Iran, the Mullahs might find it a hard thing to resist. I think this is the only safe way out.
26. Vanaunu
Kennet Ekfeldt ,   Ume?   (12.13.05)
Please! How about Israels nuclear weapons?! We ALL need a nuclear free world!
27. one more thing Bob Dylans Prediction
richard Hitchings ,   methil   (12.13.05)
As always Spelthorne you can talk for me... 20 excellent analysis U read the situation just as I do my self one more thing Hemelhemstead refinery check out other refineries that have exploded..... SO AT LAST THE ARABS REGAIN CONTROL THEIR OIL....The US and UK is shot through the foot... Here my prediction.... Oil prices will take offinto the heavens.. Property prices will crash especially in UK where the prices bare no resembalance to reality... a hard time is to come Bob Dylan wrote:.... The winner now will later be last....for the TimesThey are aaa..changin
28. UN
Serge ,   Antwerp, Belgium   (12.13.05)
what do you expect from the IAEA. Like the IRCC (Red Cross) it is a UN subsidiairy, and their boss is assisting at anti-israeli rallies. Israel can only rely on itself. but it is another question whether it is wise or possible to attack Iranian nuclear installations.
29. Accesspool
Sigfried S. Kuhn ,   Aberdeen Md. USA   (12.13.05)
I know from treating people like you that obsessive hatred is a symptom of serious mental illness. Recently, I read about a man who harbored such rage and hatred for years against a good family man because this good man supposedly told a racial joke. This demented man hired a private detective to track the "joketeller" down and then he shot the "joketeller" and killed him. With you, Mr Alexander or cesspool or whoever you are, your hatred is so obsessive that you actually want a second genocide of the Jewish people. What kind of slight or insult did you experience that has made you into such a weasel and monster?
30. #20 Get off of the crack cocain
Yonatan ,   Knoxville, Tn. USA   (12.13.05)
The US lost the war against Iraq??? Maybe we lost the public opinion war, but we beat their army VERY soundly. Something Iran was unable to do for YEARS. If you'll recall they had the 4th largest army in the world, with the most sophisticated soviet weaponry. I got to see it myself having been there. Go back to your drug induced world moron. Your spouting garbage.
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