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Israel wiped off map in U.N. event
Eitan Amit
Published: 13.12.05, 10:02
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1. ANTI-SEMITISM ALIVE&WELL AT U.N.
DEBRA ,   USA   (12.13.05)
WHY DOES THE U.N. LET THESE ANTI-ISRAELI EVENTS TAKE PLACE THERE EVERY YEAR? AS A JEW, I DEMAND IT STOP. AND I WANT AN APOLOGY FROM THE U.N. WOULD KOFI ANNAN ALLOW ANTI-BLACK EVENTS TAKE PLACE THERE? WE ALL KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. NO.
2. Israel is not Black.
(12.13.05)
Debra, there is a big difference people an anti-jewish event, and an anti-israel event. Israel is a state that was introduced by illegitimate means. Jewish religion is a religion that everybody is free to believe in or disbelieve in, and that should not be anybody's business. There was nothing in the event in question that suggested anti-jewish attitude at all, but yes, some people disagree with the idea of how israel existed by stealing some other people's land, even if they were wrong, they have the right to believe in something. it is exactly like china disagreeing with the idea of Taiwan in existence, or may be it is exactly the same with Israel disagreeing that there should be a palestinian state. I wish you open your eyes for a moment! Shalom!
3. don't over react debra...
Yakir   (12.13.05)
im sure the caretaker just switched it to the fake map for propaganda reasons. just another stupid act with no sense behind it
4. Israel should do the same
Amen ,   UK   (12.13.05)
Israel should leave a map in a stratigic position with the West Bank and Gaza under Israel colours and see the reaction of the UN. I am sure it will make world headlines
5. Palestine
Richard ,   Boulder, CO   (12.13.05)
Israel was created originally by the UN!!! The UN should simply seize to exist...one day it shall.. Peace
6. #2 open YOUR eyes
gm ,   south africa   (12.13.05)
Most of the secular world is ignorant of the fact that the land of Israel is directly tied to the religion of Judaism. Israel is not a Zionist thing alone. The Zionist Movement may have been formed a little over 100 years ago, BUT that's the name of a movement which has been fighting to win back the rights of Jews to return to their home. So, yes, being anti-Israel is being anti-Jewish no matter what rhetoric people use. And by the way, Palestine was NOT STOLEN from the 'palestinians' . Palestine was under British rule and was given to Israel by the British. There was no war where Israel conquered land. There were only wars afterwards when the arabs decided this should not have happened. YOU OPEN YOUR EYES FOR A MOMENT. The muslim world is trying to discredit the Jews having a country. THE ONLY JEWISH COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. Maybe then there can be Shalom.
7. Israel Wiped Off Map at UN Event
Graham Karp ,   Sydney, Australia   (12.13.05)
Let me get this straight...Kofi Annan, UN Secretary-General speaks in suport of the conference agenda, under a map of the Middle East that does not include Israel, and later refers to the map as "regretful"?? This is precisely why the UN is is irrelavent, and why it is nothing more than a pawn and plaything for the Arab states.
8. #3-DON'T STICK YOUR HEAD IN THE SAND. IT WAS DELIBERATE.
(12.13.05)
9. UN are a bunch of monkeys in suits
ciara ,   israel   (12.13.05)
10. #2 you are hopeless
edan ,   israel   (12.13.05)
If you cannot see that Anti-Zionism is a slick cover for Anti-Semitism than you truly are.... Ask someone who calls himself an Anti-Zionist what he wants to do with the Jews in Israel...If he tells you he wants to move them to another country in the world, he is lying... He really wants us at the bottom of the medditeranean. Any national movement has strong racial/ethnical undertones... Just like if you were against civil rights in America in the sixties it meant that you hated black people...(no offense to african americans, just trying to prove a point)
11. UN
Serge ,   Antwerp, Belgium   (12.13.05)
Maybe the UN can organise another conference to discuss why we are feeling that the UN is antisemitic
12. took Ynet a week to post this........
ari   (12.13.05)
Ynet.....u are pathetic!
13. WHAT IN THE HELL IS THE US DOING ABOUT THIS???
Marabel ,   Israel   (12.13.05)
I urge everyone to contact the whitehouse and (arabist) Department of State. Tell those bastards to do something now!!! And not like they did (nothing) when Jews were being led to the gas chambers.
14. KOFI ALSO WASNT AWARE OF THE BILLIONS HE & SON STOLE
DACON9 ,   I AM AWARE   (12.13.05)
15. Only one map needed
Yossi ,   Canada   (12.13.05)
The only map that shoulld hang at the United Nothing is a map that shows all the arab countries with that little tiny strip of territory called Isreal. Arabs have 800 times more territory than Jews, and yet Jews are at least 800 times more relevent to the advancement of humanity than arabs. To be more specific, arabs have devolved into mindless barbarians.
16. Response to "Israel is not black"
Kate ,   London   (12.13.05)
"Debra, there is a big difference people an anti-jewish event, and an anti-israel event. Israel is a state that was introduced by illegitimate means." Israel was established in the ancestral homeland (a homeland stolen by Arab squatters) of the Jewish people by agreement of the nations of the world. What is illegitimate in that? Is Pakistan also illegal? And while China has the worst human rights record in the world by a long chalk and still hangs on to Tibet, it really is a pretty lousy example for you to employ. "Jewish religion is a religion that everybody is free to believe in or disbelieve in, and that should not be anybody's business." The Jews are an ancient people, a people of incredible genius, who are only partly defined by their religion. While individuals can convert to Judaism, the process is very lengthy and few have chosen to do so over the centuries. "There was nothing in the event in question that suggested anti-jewish attitude at all, but yes, some people disagree with the idea of how israel existed by stealing some other people's land," Israel is the Jewish state and as such represents the collective Jew. That a large number of people wish to erase her from the map is only another form of anti-Semitism in which the collective Jew has replaced the individual Jew as the target. Had Hitler been alive, he would have stood alongside you and your fellow-travellers when you call for you destruction of Israel. It is also utterly abhorrent that anyone calls for the destruction of an independent and democratic nation. I would even be against the call for the destruction of a completely artificial nation like Jordan or an Islamofascist nation like Saudi Arabia. Incredible as it may seem, I even believe that, despite the Holocaust, the nations of Europe have a right to survive. In any event, a successful attempt to destroy the Jewish nation will inevitably result in a nuclear conflagration in which virtually everything and everyone will be destroyed, so I wouldn't wish too hard for Israel's destruction if I were you.
17. to #2, illegitimate?Israel and Egypt are the only ME legits
David Landman ,   Natick, USA   (12.13.05)
Most Arab countries are made up. Israel is one of the only legitimate countries in the MIddle East and Jews are native to it. I dont get it. Jews have been native to Israel for 2,500 years. Arabs are not native. They are conquers, occupiers, colonizers. Why should there be a second Arab Palestinian state? Jordan is Palestine. It is 78% of historic Palestine. Incidentally, until about 40 years ago, even the ARABs called the NATIVE Jews Palestinians because they know that Jews are native to the land. Living in the diaspora for 50, 100, 1,000 years doesnt make it any less our home. Also, there are tens of thousands of Jews who didnt leave even though the crusaders, arabs, and British tried to keep many Jews our of our homeland or massacred us. I fee no sympathy for a made up people with a made up history who prefer to kill Jews than care for their children. Maybe if these so called Palestinians would learn a little history, care about their children, hate a little less, and tolerate a little more, they would have had a second country. As far as I cam concerned, go back to Jordan/Palestine and do whatever you want on your side of the peace fence, but if you continue to bomb Israel you will be obliterated. If you prefer to genuinely want peace then Israel is more than willing. Its your choice and has always been, but with leaders who are terrorists or holocaust deniers, I can see there is no hope at present.
18. to yossi #15
andy ,   tel aviv   (12.13.05)
why don't you keep your ignorant comments to yourself. you're thinking is the exact reason why everyone hates jews in this world. you are a racist and your support of israel is more detrimental then anything else.
19. UN event
Peggi   (12.13.05)
It is really disgusting matter for all this manipulation of the incident.Israel tries to prevent any mention of Plaestine in any official site on the web. What U guys want,U Palestinians to put Israel on the map in the day of solidarity with Palestinians.It is completely outrage demand, how U ask people to put the state that kicked them out of their lands.....There should be minimum amount of shame to ask for this rediculous demand....
20. israil or palastine
salma ,   jerusalem   (12.13.05)
first where is linda away from the web here i invite her to be in the earoplane in a joke .....yes an earoplane flied with men of diferent nationality every man in his seat only one seat a palastinian and israilian was setting ....the eroplane flied across the world ...when it was over nigeria ,the nigerian stood said it is nigeria god keep nigeria i will sarefye my selfe in sake of nigeria then he threw himselfe from the plane ...then over labia the same the labian said and threw him selfe from the plane ..and so on untill it reached over palastine or israil as it is on the map ....the palastinian stood an said it is my country palastine ,god keep my palastine i will sarefy my country with this israilian and threw the israili from the plane ...all men was telling okey but it is israil on the map ...now what rivera did she looked from the window said it is israil there is not a land known as palastine you israilian you must kill all the arab all the moslems ..and the history must return thousands years back when there were only judism as a religion and the god gave the land to israil ......sorry this is only a joke
21. #15: Its stupid individuals like you who will
Palestinian ,   Canada   (12.13.05)
Bring ultimate destruction to your people. At a time when more of us Arab/Palestinians are calling for peace and co-existance, there are, unfortunately, more of you. What is barbaric about me as a Palestinian or an Arab? I am a Canadian citizen of Palestinian origin and a succesfull businessman in advanced hi-tech. I employ people of all beleifs including jews. Is this barbaric to you?? What do you call the behaviour of some of your settlers towards simple Palestinian working their land or gathering their olives? Jewish civilization?? Its such a shame that for Canada that someone like you could speak in such a manner when many like myself are calling for NO MORE BLOOD. we can live together. The extremists on your side and one our side should not win. Do not encourage them with your hate.
22. Salma : Shut up.............
Palestinian ,   Canada   (12.13.05)
23. how nice
(12.13.05)
it's nice to see you boiling guys ... all talks and nobody listen ... all are aware of what's going on and no ignorants ... all are right .... nobody is wrong ... go on like this guys .... what will happen will surprise for all of us in the end
24. EU LEGALIZES MURDER OF JEWS?
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (12.13.05)
Haj Amin, Jerusalem's Muslim religious leader was in total agreement with Hitler. Jews should not be allowed to live in Europe. Haj Amin travelled to Europe and spent the war years helping Hitler murder Europe's Jews. Europeans deported Jews from European countries over 80 times. European ethnic Jew-cleansing addicts, along with the U.S. are leading the charge for present-day Jew deportation. http://www.ipc.gov.ps/ipc_new/english/details.asp?name=11588 GAZA, Palestine, November 6, 2005 (IPC + Agencies) - - The President of the European Union's Development Committee, Luisa Morgantini, declared that the EU has laid a plan with a budget of several millions of dollars to support several aspects of development in the Gaza Strip... She continued that occupied nations have the right to defend themselves using legitimate means of armed resistance in accordance with the Fourth Geneva Convention." 60 years ago it was unacceptable for Jews to live in Europe. In our present day, the EU legitimizes the maiming and murder of Jews for living in their Jewish homeland. In 1922, Britain illegally gave MOST OF PALESTINE-80% TO THE ARABS. The area became Jordan, giving the Arabs an Arab Palestinian state on JEWISH land. IT WAS ETHNICALLY CLEANSED OF JEWS. This area is part of ancient, Biblical Israel, and along with present-day Israel, including Judea, Samaria, Gaza and the Golan was recognized by the League of Nations as the Jewish homeland. In 1948, Egypt invaded Gaza and ethnically cleansed ALL Jews. In 1948, Jordan invaded Judea-Samaria (West Bank) and east Jerusalem and ETHNICALLY CLEANSED ALL JEWS. Jordan, opposing G-D DESTROYED 58 synagogues in Jerusalem. In 1967 when Israel won Islam's religious war of aggression against it, Jews returned to the areas of their homeland they had been ethnically cleansed from for 19 years. Islamofascists and their powerful allies DECEITFULLY call this return "occupation". Under international law, territories are considered "occupied" only when taken in an act of aggression which does not apply to Israel. Judea, Samaria and Gaza are not 'occupied territories' according to international law because they were not taken from any foreign sovereign. There NEVER was an Arab country of Palestine. The hands of the EU are bloody.
25. #19 Peggy in the trash bin
Jane ,   New York   (12.13.05)
You are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO French in your attitude. This is NOT a compliment. When you get your own caliphate in order, you can, perhaps, comment on our situation. Perhaps.
26. #2
Jane ,   New York   (12.13.05)
Interesting that you and your type always demand Israel comply with UN rulings, but never accepted the UN's creation of Israel. Also interesting that you accept and justify Israel being left off of a UN map. And as Dr. Martin Luther King said more than 30 years ago, if everyone else can have a national movement, the Jews are entitled to one as well (Zionism). And he further said, "Anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism, my friend".
27. Linda
(12.13.05)
did you study the history only in the net in Jewish seites or in a Jewish school , tell me baby did you read in the history that there was land called Israel before 1948 ? is the name of Palistin have been created after or before 1948 ? can you prove that those people who lived on this land before 1948 their grandparents wer not Jewish too and they changed their relegion ? and again you repeat your self like a brocken disc .... hatress
28. #21
Yossi ,   Canada   (12.13.05)
What is barbaric is the constant and relentless indoctrination of children to hate and aspire to murder. I don't consider a Candian Palestinian a barbarian, but I do believe that you represent a fifth column..
29. U.S. EU UN RACIST JEW-HATE DESTROYS JEWS' HUMAN RIGHTS
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (12.13.05)
22 HUGE, OIL-WEALTHY Arab states cover over six million square miles, over ten percent of the land surface of earth. TINY, over-crowded Israel, only one tenth of one percent of the Middle East. America is breaking U.S. laws which make it illegal to discriminate based on race or religion. Demanding forcible removal of Jews from the Jewish homeland based on race-Jews and RELIGION-JUDAISM. So far, 10,000 Jews are jobless and homeless. In an act of sadistic cruelty, Jewish refugees are forced to pay mortgages on their destroyed homes. IT TOOK THE GLOBAL VILLAGE TO RAISE THESE TERRORISTS. Thousands of Jewish greenhouses and hundreds of Jewish farms built on land that NEVER belonged to Arabs were gifted to Palestinian Authority terrorist organization. Does the U.S. government plan to eliminate laws making it illegal to discriminate based on race or religion? Or, does the U.S. government plan to add a clause stating, THE LAW DOES NOT APPLY TO JEWS? In 1922, the British illegally gave Muslims most of Jewish Palestine-80%; the area became Jordan, giving Muslims an Arab Palestinian state. It was ethnically cleansed of Jews. The destroyers of Jews' human rights-U.S. EU and UN, are determined to massively increase joblessness and homelessness of Jews. The U.S. EU and UN demand the forcible removal of hundreds of thousands of Jews from Judea and Samaria. It is a crime against humanity for Israeli leaders to comply. Oslo-Road Map destroyed the human rights of Christians who suffer horrific persecution under brutal occupation of PLO/PA. From: 'Christianity Dying In Its Birthplace' By Daniel Pipes FrontPageMagazine.com | September 13, 2005 http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=19453 “Almost every day – I repeat, almost every day – our communities are harassed by the Islamic extremists in these regions,” Pizzaballa says. “And if it’s not the members of Hamas or Islamic Jihad, there are clashes with … the Palestinian Authority.” In addition to the Islamists, a “Muslim land mafia” is said to operate. With PA complicity. it threatens Christian land and house owners, often succeeding to compel them to abandon their properties. The campaign of persecution has succeeded...Bethlehem and Nazareth, historic Christian towns for nearly two millennia, are now primarily Muslim. In 1922, Christians outnumbered Muslims in Jerusalem; today, Christians amount to a mere 2 percent of that city’s population." This MASSIVE ATTACK ON JUDAISM AND CHRISTIANITY by U.S. EU, and UN has ominous implications for every Jew and Christian on earth. Where are the human rights organizations???
30. #2 - Is the UN "illegitimate" ?
ns ,   israel   (12.13.05)
The State of Israel was created by a UN resolution in November 1947. Your assertion that "Israel is a state that was introduced by illegitimate means" is therefore not much more than a pile of horse manure. By the way: "Jewish" is a nationality as well as a religion. The two cannot be separated - even if the Jew considers himself agnostic, he still belongs to the Jewish nation. Just another one our quirks that make it difficult to understand exactly who we are.
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