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IDF bombards northern Gaza
Hanan Greenberg
Published: 29.12.05, 06:22
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1. How Not to Win a War
Marcel ,   Florida   (12.28.05)
IDF officials are concerned terror groups may respond to the new policy by firing rockets from population centers, thus making it more difficult for the army to operate against launching cells as they are only permitted to fire into abandoned buildings and vacant fields. The IDF has a plan to attack populated area's with large quantities of candy and snack biscuits. The first bombardment of paper leaflets was deemed a success and this will be implementeds again in the hopes that the terrorist will spen more time reading and therefore inusre a greater lull in thier firing of rockets. The IDF is commited to turning the other cheek ,being the first Christian nation to implement this agenda against an emeny which targets it's civilian populations .King Goerge sends his warmest regards to his subjects in Israel
2. happy looking children
Guy   (12.28.05)
Im sure that picture was really taken of children fleeing, and of course look as happy as ever. Why not post a picture of the graves of the dead jewish kids from qassam attacks. Stop feeling sorry for those attmepting murder every day.
3. Israel Finally Means It
Joe Levi ,   Los Angeles.USA   (12.28.05)
Had Israel stopped the Intifada in the beginning 14 years ago, and used live rounds instead of rubber bullets, maybe this could have been avoided. Somewhere in the Palestinian-Arab world, there is a propaganda machine now working 24-7 to demonstrate that Israel "doesn't want peace". Well, Israel withdraw unilaterally from the Strip, giving the Palestinians 100s of hot houses and other property. What did they do instead, they torched the property and used the land to launch 15km rockets into Israel (soon to be replaced by 25km). Again we hear the moaning and groaning of those poor Palestinian children and woman wailing about Israelis use of force. Give me a break. It's only when the average Arab gets the message that their state is doomed if this continue unabated and Hamas is allowed to rule them. The ball is slowly getting into Joe Mohammad's side of the field. Either he will run with the opportunity, or face Israel's wrath. Finally.
4. Why not buffer with settlements
Will ,   Jerusalem   (12.28.05)
So what was the point in evacuating and demolishing these settlements in the first place? Just to establish a buffer zone? www.gazabook.com
5. the humane idf
mike ,   usa   (12.28.05)
the difference in morality between the two sides could not be more different: -the idf intentionally targets nothing, trying to not injure anyone. the palestinains intentionally target children, women, and old people in a way that causes maximum carnage. and just wait for the complaining and condemnation to begin.
6. (title) Finally!
Yakir   (12.28.05)
7. Marcel Is Absolutely Correct
Adina kutnicki ,   NJ   (12.28.05)
Marcel, you are absolutely correct. The IDF has been mandated from the corrupt political machine to utilize the "limited conflict " doctrine. This army doctrine is meant to be mainly defensive, and with as limited firepower possible utilized so as not to engage in a full scale war. The trouble is that there has been a full blown war from the PA Arab side for years, but not from Israel. This is why the IDF continually targets open fields, refuses to treat the general population as terror enablers, and has no problem with Israeli towns being fired upon. I am positive that this new initiative will be over before any victory is gained. The object of all IDF exercises is NOT to achieve victory, just to employ the delusional "limited conflict" doctrine. Most people think I am making this limited doctrine up, it sounds so ludicrous. However, it is the absolute truth.
8. It's about time
Norman ,   USA   (12.28.05)
But they shouldn't had dismantled the settlements in the first place.
9. A good start!
Michael Steiner ,   EU   (12.28.05)
Pound them for a couple of days, then a day's break, then do the same in central Aza, then a days break, then unleash artillery on the sourthern Aza. Repeat until the Palestinians get the message. As #3 (Joe Levi) said: Israel gave them everything they wanted in Aza and they repay us by still attacking us. Well, let them have it all we got.
10. #7
Norman ,   USA   (12.28.05)
Not so much a limited doctrine, but rather a fear of international condemnation. Israel is always scrutinized like it's the only nation that does what any other nation would do.
11. Bomb further inside Gaza
Steven Wilson ,   Anchorage, Alaska   (12.28.05)
Can you just imagine how many man hours it will take for an explosive ordinance team to clear all this land of munitions. I mean if Israeli's are going to get a chance to move back and farm this land. Wouldn't it be more appropriate to bomb Palestinian homes. I mean---who eats cement anyways. what a waste of good farmland. It's really to bad that this wonderful deal of land for peace, will ultimately pollute the same farmland that the Palestinians wanted back in the first place. Israel might as well have dumped salt on the land before they left. The Palestinians are the only nation, whose chef's can burn an omlet at every meal. How about trying to get along with your Israeli neighbors for a friggen change of pace. I'm really tired of burnt omelets.
12. At last....
Trumpeldor ,   eurabia   (12.28.05)
13. Bomb anything you want, nothing valuable will be hit.
Bunnie Meyer ,   Santa Monica, CA   (12.28.05)
14. BOMBS AWAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Marc West ,   Houston, USA   (12.28.05)
15. PROTECT JEWS NOT ARABS
MARK ,   USA   (12.29.05)
While Ashkelon is being protected, the lives of those living in Beit Hanoun are still being valued above those of the Jews living in Sderot," Huberman said. Who is the IDF defending???????????
16. To #2 Guy
Ron ,   UK   (12.29.05)
It is always said that the person who has the right will always win. What ever your terrorist army would do, it will never change the equation.Israeli sources said repeatedly that 4 out of 5 Qassam premetive rockets fall on Palestinian areas, so why Israel makes all the propoganda for this story.Simply, the thieve always overestimate the risk of being caught, this is why Israel tries its best to stop these rockets.But be sure, as long as Israel does not give back the Palstinian right, all Israel will live in fear for ever...
17. #16
Norman ,   USA   (12.29.05)
The Palestinian right to do what? To exterminate Israel? As long as the Palestinians want that, the Israelis will always live in fear.
18. Re#17
Ron ,   UK   (12.29.05)
The Palestininians won't exterminate any body, they basicly look to live in peace like all the free nations in the world, not to live under tanks bombardment where children are facing terrible problems and dis order symtoms.I've just called a friend of mine in Gaza, he told me that the Israeli are destroying the streets and using tanks and airplanes to target civilian and enforce them to leave their home at 2 am, do U think these acts could be done by civilized country, it is only done by terrorist nations... why they do not comply to the Int'l law and UN resolutions or U think Israel is a bove the int'l law.
19. Israel's future
Palestinian ,   Palestine, WB   (12.29.05)
Jews should remember that they lived in peace in the middle east for the past 200 years and were prosecuted in spain, germany, etc... Anti semitism started in europe and not from the middle east. Now, if Jews do not respect the fact they they are living in a sea of Arabs. So confronting Arabs all the time will not work, becuase some day, which is very soon. the U.S. will not be a super power anymore, and sometime after that, the tiny illegal state of Israel is going to be destroyed.
20. Listen to #19
EW ,   NYC   (12.29.05)
"the tiny illegal state of Israel is going to be destroyed." This is the true voice and sentiment of the Palestinian people. These are not the phony PA statements about living in peace next door to Israel. These are the true intentions right from the horse's mouth.
21. #19. JEWS LIVED IN ME FOR 200 YEARS??
Leo ,   Long Island   (12.29.05)
Think it high time you get your facts straight. HOW HIGH CAN YOU COUNT or better said which revisionist history book do you get your facts from? The book of how to hate Jews in two easy lessons? expected anyway. Jerusalem and Israel is mentioned in both the Christian bible and the Jewish bible more times then all the lies you spew. Furthermore 'Palestinian from Palestine WB,' here is one for you, 'Jerusalem' is not mentioned NOT ONE TIME in your Koran.
22. take a look at number 19 everyone......!
Lemor ,   Jerusalem   (12.29.05)
Here is proof of a people who are hell bent on destroying Israel and the US no matter how much they are given. And Bush calls the leader(Arafat 2) of these people who do not want peace but DEATH TO JEWS AND AMERICA a 'man of peace!' Here is one for the books, Bush calls Islam a religion of peace! Yah, right. When they are not killing the infidels, Christians and Jews they kill eachother.
23. Still you didn't learn
(12.29.05)
The Israelis are like someone blowing in a cut baloon , bravoooooo , who you are fighting against with this huge American arsenal or the American toys you get every year for Christmas from your mami America , terrorists ???? you mean those littel resistence guys with hand made rockets which are fighting for their freedom ? those guys which asked you and beged you to stop assisination their people and they respected the ceasfire but you didn't and kept on killing them , you think now you will win the war ? no winners in such war all are losers ... soon they will find a away to hurt you back and you will come all here and shouting and crying , after each IDF operation the Israelis should not be happy but more worry and they should make the black dresses ready , the Palistinians are wearing black all the time .... where is the wise voices ???
24. Israel's future - correction
Palestinian ,   Palestine, WB   (12.29.05)
Jews should remember that they lived in peace in the middle east for the past 2000 years and were prosecuted in spain, germany, etc... Anti semitism started in europe and not from the middle east. Now, if Jews do not respect the fact they they are living in a sea of Arabs. So confronting Arabs all the time will not work.
25. TO #23
Mark M. Lynn ,   United States   (12.29.05)
WHY DON'T YOU LITTLE GUYS WITH THE LITTLE ROCKETS REALIZE THAT FIRING THESE LITTLE ROCKETS WITHOUT REGARD AS TO WHERE THEY LAND IS GOING TO PISS OFF THE ONES BLOWING IN A CUT BALOON AND WHAT THEY BLOW FROM THAT CUT BALOON IS NOT SOMETHING YOU SHOULD BE STANDING NEAR WHEN IT HITS. WHAT KIND OF IDIOCY IS IT THAT DOESN'T KNOW THAT IF YOU PUT A ROCKET NEAR A SCOOL WHERE THERE ARE YOUNG CHILDREN , THE ONLY THING YOU ACCOMPLISH IS TO GET IT SHOVED DOWN YOUR THROAT LIKE YOU SHOULD. DO YOU HONESTLY THINK THIS KIND OF GARBAGE PASSES FOR "FIGHTING FOR FREEDOM"? IF SOMEONE TRIED TO BLOW UP MY CHILDREN THEY WOULD............ DISAPPEAR..........NEVER TO BE SEEN OR HEARD FROM AGAIN!!!! KNOCK OFF THE ROCKET FIRING LIKE YOU'VE BEEN CLEARLY TOLD. IF YOU DON'T , DO NOT CRY WHEN YOUR ARE A PIECE OF TOAST LYING FACE DOWN IN FRONT OF THAT CUT BALOON.ISRAEL WILL NOT TOLERATE THIS CRAP NOR WOULD ANY GOVERNMENT THAT CARES FOR IT'S CITIZENS. YOU PROVOKE-PROVOKE-PROVOKE AND PROVOKE AND YOU CALL THIS "FIGHTING FOR FREEDOM" ???? GROW UP AND GET HONEST WITH YOURSELF BEFORE YOU SPEAK......THAT WAY YOU MIGHT NOT SOUND LIKE SUCH A SMACKED ASS NEXT TIME
26. Please read more history than you write...!
Someone ,   Somewhere   (12.29.05)
It really hurts when you read people keep reminding us of History. Isrealis are using history to justify their existence. Well, this is fine. If we want to use the same logic, we should bring maybe hundreds of millions to this area who for sure have their ancestry to this area. Now, the talk that God gave the land of the Cannanite for the children of Isreal is boring. It will not work to convince the decendents of Cannanite, "Palestinians". By the way, it seems that many forget that Cannanite decended from theArabian pensuila, and they are the most historic inhabitants of the holy land. Jews should stop using the God language here. It is clear that it is not working here, since now muslims are responding with the same mentality. We are at a deadlock! Peace only comes when those claiming the heritage of the Israelites understand that most Isrealits many of them is what we call Palestininas. Palestinians were dominantly christian semitic people with Cannanite, Isrealite origin with non semitic mingiling with the Phlistines etc... Later, these same people of the Holy land became in their majority muslims.
27. TO # 24
Mark M. Lynn ,   United States   (12.29.05)
ONCE , WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL, I KNEW THIS JEWISH FELLOW. HE WAS SHORT AND STOCKY. HE WAS A QUIET GUY WHO WANTED NO TROUBLE. THE ONLY PROBLEM WAS THAT THERE WERE THREE OF FOUR BIGGER GUYS WHO TAUNTED HIM AND TRIED TO FREIGHTEN HIM BY INTIMIDATION. ONE DAY THESE FOUR GUYS SURROUNDED HIM AND TRIED TO TAKE HIS LUNCH MONEY. HE KNOCKED THE BIGGIST GUY OUT FIRST WITH ONE PUNCH AND QUICKLY SPUN AROUND AND KICKED THE NEXT BIGGEST GUY IN THE FACE. HE WENT LOOKING FOR HIS TEETH ON THE GROUND. HE THEN ELBOWED THE GUY NEXT TO HIM AND CAUGHT HIM IN THE NOSE. BLOOD POURED FROM IT. FACING THE LAST GUY HE JUST STOOD STILL AND THAT GUY ALL OF A SUDDEN HAD SOMEWHERE ELSE HE HAD TO GO. THIS SEA YOU SPEAK ABOUT. IT SOUNDS KIND OF OVERWHELMING....EVEN INTIMIDATING. THE LESSON IS THIS: ISRAEL MAY BE SMALLER THAN THOSE WHO SURROUND IT. THOSE WHO SURROUND IT KNOW NOT TO PICK A FIGHT WITH A LITTLE GUY. THAT IS BECAUSE THE LITTLE GUY , ISRAEL , PACKS A HUGE PUNCH. THEY KNOW THAT IF THEY TRY TO PUSH ISRAEL AROUND THAT IT WOULD CUT INTO THEIR LONGEVITY. WHY DON'T YOU SEEM TO KNOW THIS FACT OF LIFE?
28. to 25
(12.29.05)
first of all learn how to put your voice down if you want to discuss anything ... you will not scare me when you shout ... second learn how to be polite when you speake to others specially that i didn't insalt anybody like you did ... seams you are too young and you have still alot to learn ... i will not spend too much time with one like you but my answer cam by it self a few monents later you can read if you didn't ... (ISRAELI KILLED) this proved what i said before ..... you got it .... and i will not call smacked ass because you stinks even more .
29. TO 27
(12.29.05)
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT JACKIE CHAN IS JEW AND SAME AGE LIKE YOU ....LOL
30. 24# The Big Sea Theory
Steven Wilson ,   Anchorage, Alaska   (12.29.05)
(Thermo Nuclear Theory) 300 million glowing white buddies of yours, buddies who just couldn't get along with Jews. Are you gettin this? Is it making sense? Are you ready to quit terrorizing Jews because they hang out in the same tree house as you do? It's really simple, give the Jews back the land that you stole from them in your muslim crusades, quit terrorizing them, and ask for their forgiveness. Especially after bombing innocent civilians.
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