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Hebron children to police chief: Shoot us
Efrat Weiss
Published: 22.01.06, 19:50
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1. Hebron children to police chief: Shoot us
Lori ,   Israel   (01.22.06)
Any group, no matter how right they my be the use of kids is crossing all lines
2. Hebron Market
Ed ,   Pittsburgh, USA   (01.22.06)
So the Jews of Hebron are attempting to actually live in buildings OWNED by Jews (check the Tabo).....but this is characterized as a "riot" in the Israeli media. Why would any JEW in his right mind support the state of Israel?
3. CUT THE CRAP!!!
Michael Steiner ,   EU   (01.22.06)
This is getting farcical! The settlers really have absolutely no decency or shame. But with each new stunt they show themselves as even more pathetic and risible. Keep it up though: this perennial whining and self-victimization will only serve to lost what little sympathy a few normal Israelis may have for you. Settlers like these may insult our intelligence all they like by portraying themselves as victims. It, however, does not change the fact that they're fascists and child-abusers (q.v. pictures above).
4. Save these children!
Karen R ,   Maryland   (01.22.06)
These children are being victimized by adults with no sense of parental responsibility. The appropriate legal response would be to remove them from the custody of the "loving parents" who are exploiting them as publicity gimmicks while terrorizing them and teaching them who-knows-what about what the authorities want to do them. There are plenty of childless religious families in Israel who would be happy to give a warm, caring non-exploitative home to these children.
5. hi
Lawrence ,   New York   (01.22.06)
This is very interesting. I think this act is done totally by the kids I don't thik the parents had any involvement in this act. Childtren are usually very smart and can see through lies and deceipt because they haven't been spoiled yet by the hardships of life. Would you rather have a jewish child peacefully demonstrating their frustrations or an arab child bombing up 40 survivors of the shoah. This is the main difference between the jews of israel and the muslims of israel. When jews are unhappy about something they peacefully demonstrate and when muslims are unhappy they bomb and murder Take your pick their can be no moral equavalency here. So those who don't believe in the right to peacefully demonstrate go back to your communist states or to a muslim state. Oops sorry but if your a jew the muslims won't allow you into their country. The anti-semites really can crawl out of the woodwork like a bunch of maggots. Darn erev rav :).
6. "there is an unequivocal enforcement of the law.”
Michelle ,   Israel   (01.22.06)
So says Karadi-- then why are you discriminating against the Arabs . If "there is an unequivocal enforcement of the law.”, then it should be for everyone.
7. Hey Settlers: Careful what you wish for...
Khalid ,   Halifax   (01.22.06)
8. Israel rewards those who cross lines
Marcel ,   Florida   (01.22.06)
For Lori to even equate the Palestininas who send their children to murder and maim Jews with these brave holdouts against the insane Jewish majority is extreme ludicrous,but then the left is extreme in everything including their failure to stamp out the intafada in their appeasment and pursuit of no-peace. The Palestinians have crossed every line Israel has and they are rewarded generously .Maybe it's time for Israel's only sane remnant to get serious with the failed corrupt political fools who continue to bring Israel down their suicidal and delusional path.
9. The settlers are criminals
al-khalil, Palestine   (01.22.06)
They are called settlers. This means they came from somewhere else to settle. The settlers are absolutely occupiers and have no right to come here to Hebron under any circumustances. This is not their land. Prove that this is their land. When did they buy it, or own it. I do not need anyone to remind me of History because this does not justify owner ship. The Arabs in hebron are the true ownsers. After all Abraham bought his house from an Arabian Canaanite. What we have in Hebron is a pure in justice. The life is so miserable and for the protection of only 400 Jews, the Israeli Government is closing up most of the areas in Hebron. Come here and see! Please send the settlers back to Russia to where they belong. We do not want them here.!!
10. whining vs seeing the charade
(01.22.06)
I guess Jews should not live in buildings that they own. Maybe you'd be happier if the Arabs just drove all of into the sea. After all, the media and the politicians paint a pretty ugly picture of those who have been pioneers, creating pariahs out of our own people who have been pioneers and excusing those who want to kill us. I guess you would not have the insight to see through the charade that has gone on in this country for years and therefore see them as whining instead of people trying to protect our home land. Put blinders on yourself and you will be quite happy until the government wants to evict you from your home.
11. Golden Globes award if they made a movie?
Bezalel ,   Tel Aviv   (01.22.06)
Perhaps if 'Sharon Enterprises Inc' made a movie of all the Israeli brutality perpetrated against Jews such as the Gaza and Shomron disengagements/expulsions, the Amona, Neve Daniel and Hebron tear gassings, arrests and lock-ups of under age girls and boys, etc. gee maybe this film, like 'Paradise Now' would win a Golden Globe award too!
12. Think of Mohammad Al Dura
Mohammad ,   Gaza   (01.22.06)
IDF if you forgot who to do it. Think of Mohammad Al Dura
13. #s 9+10:
Michael Steiner ,   EU   (01.22.06)
#9: You're right about the overall untenability and unacceptability of the settlers' escapades and the misery they inflict on the Palestinian people (as well as Israelis, indirectly). But to claim that Avraham bought the land from an ARABIAN Canaanite is absurd. Arabs only came to the Middle East with the Islamic expansion in the 7th century CE. You'[re doing yourself a huge disservice by making such preposterous claims. #10: The settlers of Khevron are not protecting Jews from being thrown into the sea. No-one is buying that idiotic nonsense anymore. While our military presence in YeShA served some purpose until perhaps a decade ago (it doesn't anymore), the settlement enterprise was always an ill-advised, ill-thought and doomed project. This has nothing to do with Jews being thrown out of their homes, fighting or not the enemy and all the other emotional hysteria that's trying to be whipped up here. Fact is: the court of law has determined that those in the Khevron market have to vacate the premises they occupy. End of story. OUT!
14. Jews just like the Palestinians
(01.22.06)
I know alot of jews on this board critiseize the Palestionians and sya " they use their Children as bait and send them into harms way etc." well, jews, take a look at the above picture- and eat it!! LOLOL. FOOLS!!!!!!!!!!!!
15. Al Dura
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (01.22.06)
It was proven by thorough investigation that Muhammed Al Dura WAS NOT KILLED BY IDF because they were not in the position to do so. Al Dura was killed by other Palestinians in front of French film crews.
16. Steiner Definitely Not A Jew
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (01.22.06)
The gemara in Yevamos says that if anyone displays an exception amount of CRUELTY you should check his yichus, because Bnei Yisrael rachmanim bnei rachmanim hem. Someone who drips with such intense hatred for "settlers" and "haredim" in every post and recommends shooting egg tossers is either not Jewish or a mamzer.
17. Freedom of Expression
Sam Weinstein ,   USA   (01.22.06)
It's a sad day when a goverment calls a person fanatical for taking a stand against their policies and threating shooting demostrators. Israel is not Allende's Chilie and Israel is not China. Remember what Thomas Jefferson one of the father's of the American revolution and signer of the Declaration of Independence said. A revolution now or then is good thing.
18. Disgraceful Parents.
Meir Moses   (01.22.06)
Only the most depraved parent would use their children as political pawns - inviting their children 'to be shot'. Then again, I have met these people and their sense of self-pity and obscurantist world view have led to this behaviour.
19. Michael Steiner ....
AB ,   Gibraltar   (01.22.06)
is to be pitied. A victim of the media who can't think for himself and see beyond his nose.... a person who is very angry and scared because he knows that he does not touch the toe of one of these pure children who has the courage to stand up to the monsters that want to rob them of what is theirs. These beautiful children are showing up the police for the cowards that they are. People like Steiner are simply lost and troubled individuals (souls?).
20. ISRAEL SEEKS TO GIVE FIRST JEWISH CITY TO ISLAM!
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (01.22.06)
HEBRON is the FIRST JEWISH City and SECOND in JEWISH HOLINESS Respect is always given to Muslims! No one ever tries to steal Islamic land and Islamic sacred places! No one is trying to force Muslims out of Mecca and Medina! This CRUEL and FRIGHTENING IDEOLOGY that PUNISHES JEWS for NOT BEING MUSLIM MUST STOP! From: The Jerusalem Post, Nov 16, 2005 'The case for Mitzpe Shalhevet' by David Wilder "...The market was finally shut down following an attempted terrorist attack: Arabs placed a booby-trapped teddy bear in a plastic bag in the market near the entrance to the Jewish neighborhood, hoping a Jewish child, finding it, would play with it and be killed in the ensuing explosion. Despite numerous requests by our community to rent the structures, the site has been left vacant. On March 26, 2001, at the beginning of the Oslo War an Arab sniper shot and killed 10-month-old Shalhevet Pass. Following the murder, Hebron children began utilizing the abandoned Arab shuk as a place to play and take cover during shooting attacks from the overlooking Abu Sneneh Hills. Over a period of time, the Hebron community invested tens of thousands of dollars to convert the former fruit and vegetable stalls into livable apartments. Presently, the former market, renamed the Mitzpe Shalhevet neighborhood, houses Hebron families and a Torah study hall opened in Shalhevet's memory. Mitzpe Shalhevet is presently on the brink of obliteration, not by Arabs, but by the government..."
21. Hebron Kids
Henry Weil ,   jerusalem   (01.22.06)
This only is further proof of the fanatical unrationnal behviour of the Hebron settlers, such action shoud be strongly condemmed, by the Rabbinical and political leadership of the settler mouvement, whatever their ideas. This only damages further their cause
22. ISRAEL'S POLICE PREFER GOING TO WAR AGAINST JEWISH CHILDREN
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (01.22.06)
...rather than fight Muslim terrorists (it's much easier). www.israelnationalnews.com Pioneer Youths Beaten by Police, Condemned by Leaders 17:17 Dec 22, '05 / 21 Kislev 5766 By Hillel Fendel This past Oct. 26, the day after the Sukkot holiday, hundreds of youths from around the country attempted to build four new neighborhoods in the Yesha (Judea and Samaria) communities of Efrat, Kedumim, Elon Moreh and Kiryat Arba. "Expansion in Place of Destruction" ... in the wake of the destruction wrought upon Gush Katif and northern Samaria just two months earlier. In at least one of the cases - in the new outpost near Kedumim, in the Shomron (Samaria) - the police and army forces employed particularly strong violence in order to evacuate the youth. The idealistic teenagers later related accounts of girls being dragged by their hair across rocky ground, punches to the ribs and face, and more. ... they were widely condemned by their own rabbis, MKs and public figures, who did not bother to first find out the entire story." The story that was widely publicized in the media at the time was that the youths had been violent towards the security forces. Strook says she remembers Yesha Council officials and others who immediately took to the airwaves to condemn their behavior. "It took the youths a while to get their act together," she told Arutz-7, "but now they have put together a very powerful movie [in Hebrew, but with footage of the violent evacuation] that shows exactly what they went through." The movie was sent, on a disk, to some 50 leading rabbis and Knesset Members, with an accompanying letter... Excerpts from various people who appear in the movie: "We held tight to each other... the police tried to neutralize each of us by holding the groin and choking; one policemen choked me for about 15 seconds while holding me in the groin... They laughed and joked as if they enjoyed using the force... Two policemen dragged a girl by her ponytail - without holding her in any other way, across the ground and the rocks, and she was really in pain; she cried out, 'Stop, I'll go,' but they kept on; I came over and tried to help her, one policeman took me and pushed me against the wall, twisted my arm and pushed my face up, I cried and told him he was breaking my arm, and he put his face very close to mine and threatened me... When there were no cameras around, they used extreme violence; when there were cameras, they used only moderate violence... I saw them pick up girls and throw them and drag them, and then the girls would fall down and couldn't walk, so the police would kick them and pick them up and throw them down... I saw them drag my sister out by her leg, over the rocks and ground, her skin and back was all scratched up... I saw a bunch of girls walking down the path, leaving on their own - but 4-5 policewomen were running after them, hitting them, kicking them - it was just a terrible sight. In particular, one policewoman was brutally violent against one of the girls, kicking her and throwing her, over and over; I tried to stop her, but I wasn't able to... One boy was being beaten, and other policemen came and pushed them away so that they could hit him too..." http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=95323
23. Ghandi was a Fanatic too
Joe Levy ,   USA   (01.22.06)
Ghandi was considered by the British to be a fanatic too and look what happened in India. To constently judge people as fanatics because they disagree with you is a dangerous ideal in a society because it erodes a civil society and breeds resentment.
24. gimmick
Michael ,   Haifa   (01.22.06)
the little bastards know that nothing is going to happen to them...just another silly gimmick that only gets attention here in talkback
25. Re #9: an honest purchase
Steve ,   USA   (01.22.06)
B"H To respond: Abraham purchased the field of Machpela from a Hittite for full price as an eternal burial estate, which is in Hebron. With your concept of purchase, even if someone honestly buys land, it is not thiers. And you call those who buy it criminals! You people are really warped. There is no honest purchase possible with you (see your quote below). You like to take the money and do not then hand over the goods. So why are you so shocked when the selling price is free for the Jews to repossess THEIR land? And why is the high court so ludicrous to legitimize you, calling it a rule of law, when you support upfront stealing here? The only thing courageous is you have the conscience to admit in writing for all to see instead of hiding yourself behind your lies. To quote: I do not need anyone to remind me of History because this does not justify owner ship. The Arabs in hebron are the true ownsers. After all Abraham bought his house from an Arabian Canaanite.
26. Y r Jewish children wearing American KuKluxKlan symbol?
(01.22.06)
the American Ku Klux Klan is a racist and anti-semitic organization...why are these Jewish children in Hebron wearing that organization's cross as part of their target...these children are being used by their parents and by their parents racist fundamentalist Christian Friends! all these children should be picked up and removed from their homes by Children and Family services as they are clearly being abused by their parents!
27. Come on Meir Moses
Forgot my address ,   Israel? gaveitaway?   (01.22.06)
at least they didn't strap bomb belts on them. Like your neighbors do. It's just a protest. Will you be holding up a sign, when you are being thrown out of the Mid East? I hear the next accord is the GO Accord. It stands for Get Out! Your leadership is considering it! Get out your kids, and the signs. You might have to protest too.
28. To #13: Arabs came long before the 7th century
Arabic Historian   (01.22.06)
Michael Steiner, I am not claiming a false statement. Arabs are two parts. Ishmaelite Arabs from whom prophet Muhammad descend. And also, Arabians like Canaanites. Canaanites and others who populated the area are and extension of tribes living in the Arabain Penisula. This has been the case before the arrival of prophet Abraham. As a matter of fact: The arabs in yemen are not Ishmaelites. They are the source of All arabian tribes moving upward, like Adnan, Kahtan, Canaan, etc...... When Ishmael lived in Arabia, it was already populated by others. He married to an Arabian and from his descendent is the Prophet Muhammad. Therefore, Ishmaelite arabs are cousins of the ISraelites. But others in the Arabian peninsula may not be the case like Canaanites. I hope this clarify the point. Ishmaelite Arabs in Arabic are called: Araba Musaarebah Canaanites are called: Arab Aribah.
29. 7,380 DEMOLITION ORDERS AGAINST PALESTINIANS NOT IMPLEMENTED
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (01.22.06)
Jews are violently physically assaulted by the IDF and police; Jewish homes and communities are destroyed; Jews are made jobless and homeless for one reason: THEY ARE NOT MUSLIM! THIS CRUEL AND FRIGHTENING IDEOLOGY THAT PUNISHES JEWS FOR NOT BEING MUSLIM MUST STOP! 7,380 approved demolition orders against Palestinians not implemented Aaron Lerner Date: 13 January 2006 Hatzofeh newspaper Correspondent Chagai Huberman reports today that as of now there are no less than 7,380 demolition orders against illegally built homes built by Palestinians in the West Bank filed by the Israeli Civil Authority and approved by the courts that have not been carried out. In addition, Huberman notes, the Civil Authority has initiated a program under which Palestinians [but not Israelis] can apply for the head of the Civil Authority to waive the demolition orders on both legal and such humanitarian grounds as : the person invested all his savings in the house, the head of the household has many children, etc. With regard to illegal construction inside the Green Line, Huberman reports that data from the Ministry of Interior shows that during the period 2003-2004 alone no less than 352 illegal Bedouin outposts were built in the Negev. Huberman notes that the Arab MKs were rewarded for voting in favor of the retreat from Gaza and northern Samaria by the approval of the hook-up of hundreds of illegal Bedouin outposts in the Negev to electricity. Dr. Aaron Lerner, Director IMRA (Independent Media Review & Analysis)
30. POLICE REFUSED TO DEFEND JEWS FROM ARAB ATTACKERS
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (01.22.06)
Earlier this month, at the soccer match between Beitar-Jerusalem and Sakhnin, Arabs threw stones at, and brutally attacked the Jews. Israeli police who were present refused to defend the Jews against the Arab attackers. Israel is Islamic paradise for Muslims who are allowed to break all laws. Israeli police believe egg throwing Jews are as bad as Muslim bombers and Israel's police are now in training to make a massive police assault upon egg throwing Jews.
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