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Rice: Policy toward Hamas won't change
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Published: 24.01.06, 08:13
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1. But they'll work with all the other terrorist organizations!
Steven Wilson ,   Anchorage, Alaska   (01.24.06)
Just put the guys with the green garments, in the closet------and then we can deal! You can claim them as your gay brother in law. Condi won't mind. As long as they aren't visible. Just closet terrorists, hiding out for their next mission.
2. Rice will say ANYTHING Bush tells her to say, ALL LIES!!!
Bunnie Meyer ,   Santa Monica, CA   (01.24.06)
3. ITS ALMOST OVER, WAR IS COMING
DACON9 ,   NOTHING TO SAY, USA   (01.24.06)
USA WILL WORK WITH HAMAS USA WILL FUND HAMAS USA WILL SUPPORT HAMAS USA HAS ALWAS MADE ERROR IN SUPPORTING THE WRONG PARTIES AND THE PRES I SUPPORTED AND VOTED FOR HAS A MESSIANIC COMPLEX. HE THINKS HE CAN BRING PEACE THAT HAS NOT BEEN ACHIEVED SINCE THE DAYS IN THE BIBLE. HE THINKS HE CAN TURN THE OTHER CHEEK. HE CREATED A MONSTER AND NOW HAS TO MAKE THE BEST OF THIS MONSTER THE MONSTER? POLITICAL GROUPS OF TERRORISM...... AND WEAKNESS IN ISRAEL THIS MAY BE THE END OF **YNETS COMMENT PAGE.. WHAT ELSE CAN WE SAY AFYER THIS AND EVACUATING JEWS FROM THEIR OWN HOME AND ISRAELSI VOTING IN THEIR OWN ENEMIES AND IUSRAELIS ALLOWING ARABS TO BE IN THE GOVERNMENT TO VOTE AGAINST ISRAELIS NOTHING ELSE TO SAY.. I AM SILENT-----------------------
4. More FAILED U.S. Policy
Marcel ,   Florida   (01.24.06)
We've had over 12 failed years of the U.S led Oslo and Road Map FAILURE. That the president works overtime to reward the terrorist's and punish the Jews should awaken some deadheads ? Everything the U.S. has done or touched related to Israel and the Middle East has been a complete failure. The billions sent to the Palestinian Terrorist Authority sits in secret bank vaults in Switzerland .The Palestinian terrorists grow stronger under the Road Map as Israel grows weaker. The Bush agenda of ethnically cleansing Jews from their land and replacing them with Islamic murders who have no desire or intention of living in peace with Israel should caise grave concern to all but it seems the strong delusion is working. That Israel contunure to follow a nation and it's failed and cursed agenda reveals a weak ,desperate and beggardly leadership which is incapable of saying no to suicidal demands.God help Israel in spite of themselves.
5. To all above
DR ,   Florida, USA   (01.24.06)
It seems that nothing will please any of you until all the arabs are either gone or dead. Let's be realistic: It's not gionna happen. It might be the only solution, but it won't happen. The other point is that without American aid, Israel would have never survived until now. America loves and needs Israel and all these ideas that the Bush administration hates Israel and wants to get rid of Jews are ridiculous. The US gives more money in aid to Israel than any other country, but it has to pander to the whole world. Whenevr anything happens, all eyes turn to the US. It's not easy pleasing everyone when you are the major superpower in the world. Israel will be fine no matter what happens in the palestinian elections. they will probably flare riots and vioplence in Gaza and the world will see and know what kind of people we are dealing with.
6. The UK Dhimmitude may cave fast
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (01.24.06)
Blair saying difficult = lets see we could after all !!! Their new Dhimmitude State could settle for a lot more to please their Muslim leaders. The US State Dep. has before made turn-abouts but at least one has to give credit to Bush - on his watch Arafat was out and not welcome as with Clinton in the White House
7. Just curious..
Khalid ,   Halifax   (01.24.06)
What do you guys think of this: http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/ACC5E814-DB9A-4C8C-9C5C-D2F5795720BA.htm particularly Marcel since I believe he's a Christian. I understand the clear difference because this man is Greek Orthodox, but aren't you all believers in Christianity?
8. #5 DR
Marcel ,   Florida   (01.24.06)
Lets be realistic you said " Lets face the reality that it is the U.S. which ALWAYS ties Israel's hands and restrains them and sends millions to the Palestinian terrorists even when they are non compliant and have broken every agreement with Israel . THAT'S REALITY that you ignore !!! you wrote; "The other point is that without American aid, Israel would have never survived until now" Just another example of a brainwashed fool who follows blindly. Israel needs to stop sucking on the poison milk of america that weakens her and strengthens the Palestinian enemy.Yor defeatis rant reveals that you also seek a weak and indefensable Israel . Israel can and will DEFEAT her enemies once the RESTRAINT of the U.S. is removed . ISRAEL has won every war ,but because of U.S. interference has not been permitted to this time. They have lost by 'the false peace' of conman George who has sold Israel out for Saudi Oil money and arab Islamic interests.
9. Terrorism and State Terror and Rice
Richard Hitchings ,   Methil   (01.24.06)
its it so rich of Rice to say to Hamas that they perpetrate terror...without giving a balance on the state terror that Israel uses.... and of course State terror is a fine art of the US
10. DR , Florida, USA: You give partially wrong lessons here
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (01.24.06)
Facts: Egypt is practically on the same level of aid.. and so are other Arab states Egypt in return - gives very little. the US has given Egypt $117 billion and Jordan $22 billion in foreign aid in return for signing peace treaties with Israel. ... Isn't it odd to have to pay Arabs to make PEACE ??? WHICH IN FACT THEY REALLY DON'T Israel's economic aid changed from the Commodity Import Program (CIP), which provides funds to foreign nations FOR THE PURCHASE OF US COMMODITIES. In return, Israel provided the Agency for International Development with assurances that the dollar level of Israel's non-defense imports from the U.S. would exceed the level of economic assistance granted Israel in any given year. Thus, Israel guaranteed that U.S. suppliers would not be disadvantaged by the termination of Israel's CIP Program. Israel is America's most trusted and reliable ally in the Middle East, the only state in the Middle East that publicly declares support for the U.S. Israel is on the front-line in the battle against Islamic terrorists, and provides the U.S. with key intelligence information and front-line military operations. As opinionjournal.com notes: "In 1981 Israel destroyed Iraq's Osirak reactor, setting back Saddam Hussein's quest for nuclear weapons. How much money and how many lives did this end up saving America?" The U.S. spends untold billions spreading the ideals of democracy around the world; in Israel, it comes for free. Israel partners with the U.S. in technological development, medical research, agricultural innovations, and a wide range of cultural exchanges. In addition, many Israeli-developed technologies serve as integral components of the U.S. military arsenal. The United States gives out $13.3 billion in direct foreign aid annually around all . The vast majority of these recipients express animosity toward the United States in state-sponsored media, and routinely vote against the U.S. in international forums. Israel votes FOR the USA and stands side by side with the USA, the only true ally in the Middle East Lot of the aid, goes directly back to the US economy. Lot of the aid, is in Loan Guarantees only.
11. The INTERNATIONAL BETRAYAL OF ISRAEL
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (01.24.06)
Israel suffers continual terror attacks from global jihad. Under U.S. pressure, Israel ACCEPTS continual war, rewarding her enemies! 10,000 Jews were punished for not being Muslim. Jewish land and thousands of greenhouses and hundreds of farms of the hated infidel Jews were confiscated and given to Muslims. Muslim mobs destroyed Jewish synagogues where G-D was honored and exalted. Jobless and homeless Jewish refugees are forced to pay mortgages on their destroyed homes! Israel's surrender of Gaza brought terrorists closer to major Israeli population centers. Arab missiles now fire on Ashkelon, previously not within range. Sderot's mayor charges Israel has abandoned Sderot. Which cities inside the green line will be abandoned next? Happy terrorists fire rockets on Sderot, just as terrorists were allowed to fire thousands of rockets and mortars on Gaza's Jews. Terrorists and massive amounts of weapons pass freely through the Gaza-Egypt border. Rockets are fired from Jewish Gaza, which has been transformed into terrorist training camps and a GLOBAL BASE FOR TERROR. The response of terrorist enablers, U.S. EU, and UN, is for terrorists to duplicate this success in Judea and Samaria. Another wicked crime against humanity is demanded. The cruel ethnic cleansing of 250,000 Jews punished for not being Muslim, rendered jobless and homeless; their land confiscated and given to Muslims. Giving Islamists military advantage over a tiny, weakened Israel reduced to an INDEFENSIBLE 6-10 miles wide at her middle ENABLING CONQUEST OF ALL ISRAEL. Will Israel fight back when it is too late, when Jerusalem, Tel Aviv and all Israel is under total attack from Islamists, with reinforcements from throughout the Muslim Middle East and beyond?
12. U.S. EU UN FULLY AWARE PA GOAL IS ANNIHILATION OF ISRAEL
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (01.24.06)
ISRAEL IS OFFERED UP AS A SECOND CZECHOSLOVAKIA Every single one of the PA's security services are involved in terrorist attacks against Israel. PLO terrorists were implanted into Israel through Oslo to commit mass murder and terrorism. THAT IS WHAT TERRORISTS DO. The U.S, EU, and UN are fully aware that the goal of the Palestinian Authority and other terrorist organizations is total annihilation of Israel. An Islamic terror state in the Jewish Holy Land enables that goal. Part of article from: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 Islamic Jihad says all Palestinians united Leader says total annihilation of Israel joint strategy © 2005 WorldNetDaily.com http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45917 "In a news conference in Damascus, the leader of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad today boasted all Palestinian groups remain united in the goal of annihilating the Jewish state of Israel. With Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Ahmed Qureia looking on, Ramazan Abdullah, secretary general of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, said the Palestinian Authority and all Palestinian movements have reached agreement on a joint strategy after Israel's evacuation of the Gaza Strip. "This war would continue till full liberation of Palestine, restoration of the denied rights of the whole Palestinian nation and briefly speaking uprooting of the usurper Israeli regime," he said, according to a translation by the official Iranian Islamic Republic News Agency..." The hostile actions of the U.S. and EU to loyal ally, Israel, is against everything the U.S. has ever stood for, and against everything Americans believe in: freedom, justice, human rights, and the belief that we are all created equal. Unless the U.S. EU, and UN completely reverse their horrifying anti-Jew, anti-Israel policies, it will be evident that the U.S. EU and UN have taken their stand with the terrorists against innocents.
13. A response to Richard
Kate ,   London   (01.24.06)
Richard forgets, inter alia: the British murder of tens of thousands of innocent Germans by the RAF at Dresden, the neo-Nazi behaviour of British troops towards Holocaust survivors in post-war Palestine, the brutality of the British army in Northern Ireland (and no troops have a more terrible reputation than the Scots), the illegal war Britain is currently engaged in in which over 100,000 innocent Iraqi civilians have died. Compared to the ugly brutality of the above, Israel truly is a gentle nation. God alone knows how Britain would behave if she had to face Israel's daily trials and tribulations.
14. To Khalid in Halifax
Andy   (01.24.06)
Thanks for the Al-Jazeera piece on al-Taweel. Its very, very complex, because Hamas has delivered services to Palestinians that the PA has not -- true. And they may change, if you ask Jimmy Carter (who has earned his stripes in the Middle East peace process and should be respected) or Tony Blair. But Hamas still DELIBERATELY TARGETS civilians, which the IDF goes to pains to avoid. More falsehoods from this man: Kadima says no more withdrawal from the West Bank, Israel won't compromise on Jerusalem --- which everyone with a shred of honesty will admit depends almost totally on what the Palestinians do - and so far what's going on in Gaza doesn't auger well. And "reclaiming" lands means refugees having claims to land in the Sharon, the Galil, the Golan, Gush Dan, Tel Aviv, Haifa, Jaffa, Acco --- all non-starters. Its either two states by peaceful means or more bloodshed. Christian or not (and his Christianity doesn't mean anything positive or negative to me as a Jew), this guy isn't saying that. He comes accross to me as one of those "interim step" Palestinians, who, like his father, and grandfather rejects partition, and ultimately plays the waiting game to get the whole country as an Arab state. Lets get what we can now and keep up the violence. Not someone Israel is going to relish negotiating with.
15. THE EQUIVALENT OF GIVING HALF OF AMERICA TO AL-QAIDA
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (01.24.06)
In an act of great moral depravity and evil, Israel’s Jews were forced to take savage PLO terrorists as “peace” partners. PLO terrorists were implanted into Israel through Oslo to commit mass murder and terrorism. THAT IS WHAT TERRORISTS DO. Every single one of the Palestinian Authority’s security services are involved in terrorist attacks against Israel. Heavily armed and trained. Financed by the nations, the PLO/PA conduct bloody, barbaric jihad against Israel’s Jews. The U.S. EU UN demand for an Islamic terror state in Israel, is the equivalent of implanting Al-Qaida into America. Arming, training, and financing Al-Qaida to go to war against the American populace and demanding half of America and Washington DC is given to Al-Qaida for an Islamic terrorist state.
16. It's not that we will never be happy DR
Steven Wilson ,   Anchorage, Alaska   (01.24.06)
We know these terrorists aren't going to stop. No matter how much land you give them, they won't stop the terror. They aren't going to ever stop suicide bombings, on Americans, or Israeli's. Money from whomever will not stop them. They teach it to their children in schools. Then we reward them by telling the Jews to give them land. How many times do you give up land, to a bully that kills your family members? Until you run out. Reality is a real bummer DR. It doesn't have anything to do with wiping out the Arabs. It has to do with wiping out the Jews. When will we get disgusted with to many deaths in Iraq? The liberals are screaming about giving up, every chance they get. They would give away America, before the Jews would give away Israel. Just so the Arabs would quit bombing them. Money doesn't mean much, when you don't have a place to live, or are getting bombed all the time. These Arabs who promise peace, always come back with bombs. When is that optimistic assessment going to change DR?
17. Talk is cheap....
Boomer ,   Lynden, WA   (01.24.06)
The key line in this article is where it says, "Neither Rice nor state department spokesman Sean McCormick explicitly ruled out dealing with a Palestinian government in which Hamas played a significant role." The Bush administration continues to say "sort of" what needs to be said, but sends mixed or weak signals to the Palestinians which lets them know they can get away with anything. The fact remains that the Palestinians have NEVER lived up to ONE agreement they have ever made regarding peace with Israel, yet, here we are still ramming the road map down Israel's throat like the Palestinians are going to become peaceful and recognize Israel's right to exist. The real message is "peace at any price" and Israel is the one that has to pay it all.
18. Kate ....all that education going to waste
Richard Hitchings ,   methil   (01.24.06)
to answer a guy that left school at 15 lol.......the gentle nation that sent in Mercanaries to do their dirty work at Sabra and Shatila..... perhaps they couldnt manage that on their own....but no doubt Sharon paid them well enough..
19. Kate ....all that education going to waste
Richard Hitchings ,   methil   (01.24.06)
to answer a guy that left school at 15 lol.......the gentle nation that sent in Mercanaries to do their dirty work at Sabra and Shatila..... perhaps they couldnt manage that on their own....but no doubt Sharon paid them well enough..
20. US restrint on Israel
DR ,   Florida, USA   (01.24.06)
I agree with all of you. My point was just that the U.S. helps Israel in many ways and it seems that no matter who is running this government, people are never happy. G.W. Bush is not the 1st president to tackle this issue and many before him have also failed. If it were up to me I would allow Israel to do what ever it needs to defend itself. Israel has never and will never ask permisiion from the US to protect its citizens and I believe Israel will be the first country to stop Iran from going nuclear. You have to think about where Israel gets their fighter jets (USA), much of their weapons technology (USA) etc. Without these toys, Israel would be in grave danger...that was my point. And to Marcel, you must have me confused with a brainwashed arab.
21. To Richard
DR ,   Florida, USA   (01.24.06)
The fact that you compare Israel and the US to palestinian terrorists is ridiculous. You are either blind, brainwashed or mentally challenged. To side with a culture that teaches their children to murder is crazy in my book.
22. DR 20 WRONG YOU ARE
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (01.24.06)
You state; ......You have to think about where Israel gets their fighter jets (USA), much of their weapons technology (USA) etc. Without these toys, Israel would be in grave danger...that was my point...... Israel was before buying their planes from France Israel could buy elsewhere ... EU It is all a give and take American industry earns enormous for their very weapons companies hard $$$$$$$ by Israel being forced to buy US Which at the same time allows America to also install Israeli inventions into their weapons, intel info. etc.... Military Industry - Israel The government-owned Israel Aircraft Industries (IAI), founded as a maintenance facility in 1953, soon began developing and assembling a variety of its own ... http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/israel/industry.htm So stop thinking the US does for pure love Not so..... America in return has advantages that are manifold
23. #8 Marcel
Evan ,   NYC, NY   (01.24.06)
you want american permission to fight and win this war?? how about you give us back all the weapons we gave you in exchange for permission?! sound like a fair deal?! don't forget what made you and what keeps you in existence, good luck fighting your war with Israeli-made weaponry! ungreatful!
24. Evan ,NYC, NY: You totally failed
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (01.24.06)
Israel has it's very own industry for the longest time as well. abd it's 1st class ..... American industry earns enormous for their very weapons companies hard $$$$$$$ by Israel being... forced.... to buy US Which at the same time allows America to also install Israeli inventions into their weapons, intel info. etc.... electronic ... etc... Military Industry - Israel The government-owned Israel Aircraft Industries (IAI), founded as a maintenance facility in 1953, soon began developing and assembling a variety of its own ... http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/israel/industry.htm So stop thinking the US does for pure love Not so..... America in return has advantages that are manifold
25. State Terror... we could teach Hamas much
richard hitchings ,   methil   (01.26.06)
I take it from your post that you have never been the Victim of State Terror Take it from one Who has in his time been a State terror Soldier....I made sure I gave the Queen her moneys worth.... Terror from me as a representative of my Regiment... The Black Watch.... was not intended to be a PR job.... Its thirty odd years since I was a party to this... but it still causes me sleepless nights ... even yet!!
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