Not the first time they do report half Truth

the world talks about Hamas changing their spots as easily as selecting a new pair of shoes. Of course the words accountability and transparency never fit into this equation. (read on) On the other hand we take the terrorist party of Abbas which is not looked upon as a terrorist party..... who does nothing to forward peace and the world seems to look upon them as though they are some ladies auxiliary. White paint indeed does cover a multitude of imperfections. With a good *base coat you have no transparency! I would not at all be surprised by a world which excepts mere words from Hamas opposed to real deeds. Talk about tried and true, look how the US and the rest of the world has circumvented the fact the party of Arafat and Abbas is the party of terrorists. A good dose of *smoke and mirrors and lots of white paint and like magic the bad guys are now the good guys. Except - The 'legitimate' good guys are left to do the lions share and the world holds them to it!!

but never gives them. Example: The thousands of tunnels dug from Egypt to Gaza over the years. Egypt by allowing thousands of tunnels to be dug from their soil to Gaza make their duplicity in terror attacks as obivious as the black hair dye Mubarak seems to favor. However, we must be quiet and not talk about either one. Egypt like Syria like the Saudi's and certainly like Iran never are made to have consequences. When you stop and think about it, they hold the cards, make the deals and in the end have to guarantee NOTHING. He who laughs last, laughs last.

Ah, so basically if Hamas says tomorrow that they will stop terrorism, they will be politically, socially, and morally worthy of peace negotiations? I guess it doesn't matter that they murdered hundreds of innocent people, ruining the lives of countless families and their loved ones and causing Israelis to fear that if they go to a coffee shop, it might be their last capucino. And what about the fact that the founding principle of their organization is to eliminate every last Jew off the face of the earth? I guess that's also unimportant. I bet that under those face masks and explosive belts, they're a great bunch of guys.

Check the 1983 Jerusalem Post for proof, theyve talked many many many times, but oh yeah, back then Hamas was on their side, now theyre terrorists.

If they do not support the P.A this mean that the democracy issue in the middle east is a false. If Israel squeeze the Palestinean people then back to square one. Israel for 40 years considered PLO as terrorist group. So be it. Hamas is just 2o years old. Which means half bad as PLO

Please, please dear Hamas, please recognize our "right to exist" until you have succeeded in destroying us. We promise to remove all our settlers from Hebron, Kiryat Arba, Yesha, and Jerusalem! We promise to round up all the haredim and put them on reservations. We will even kill them all if that is that you want. Please, please just acknowledge our right to Sheinkin Street! We will pay the jizya, just don't shut down the discos, gay bars and porn stores.

These talkbacks are just full of BS. Here are some fallacies: 1- Hamas does not have in its manifesto anything about eliminating jews, but they only talk about gaining independence from Occupation, no matter what religion it is. 2- Hamas did not kill a fraction of what Israel did kill. Still the world is willing to talk to Israel, and not Hamas. Give over. 3- Hamas proved to have principles, they said they will stick to the truce, and they did so far! israel never did. Give, again, over. 4- Consequences, Israel knows nothing about consequences. It kills, destroys, invades, preaches hatred, calls names, changes history, and everything one can imagine, with no questions, or at best, false ones by the americans! 5- Hizbullah laughed longer than Israel, Hamas so far did too. Israel is failing, just watch. Layla Tough, not toav.

EXCEPT.......your math is bad. you wrote: Hamas is just 2o years old. Which means half bad as PLO Hamas is the PLO. Just another offshoot of sorts. The PLO were the supreme incubator of Hamas as all their other off shot terrorist groups. But be quiet, the big guys don't like to talk about that. If they did the Palestinians wouldn't get a cent. Not a word about a state and for sure no quartet of idiot liars. No deserving Palestinians means no Israel to pick on. No evil Zionist equation either. This is just one of the many reasons the poooor Palestinian issue is kept alive by their many appeasers and co-dependants. Nice way to take the emphasis off of 9-11 when btw Palestinians passed out candy. A mighty good way to forget the Muslim/Arab world hated the West long before Israel was a state. The grand mufti poopa of Jerusalem was an avid Nazi supporter. Must be one of the reasons the Jihadist murders, beheaders, honor killing suicide bombers of the Arab world act more and more like Nazi's every day. Oh yah, the same grand mufti poopa of Jerusalem to which Jerusalem is not even once mentioned in the Koran. hmm. Sounds like a land grabbing scheme to me ; -)

Please provide *certifiable facts* complete with end notes for reference. for #11. Also, you gave yourself away. The word JEW is spelled with a capitol J. As for the bullshit about occupation, it is just that, bullshit. But to someone who is completely brainwashed who never opened a book in a free public library or heard anything other then what was preached to them 24/7, what can I expect....?

They come to OUR sites to incite us. DO NOT let them. Let their garbage fall on deaf ears with no responses. THANK YOU.

to no 13, couldn't see your certifiable facts! there is no space here to provide you with references. You can go and check the facts yourself. nothing in my writing is with capitals. You can say i do not agree with a capitalism as a way of life. I have a PhD, I read every single day, i simply cannot sleep without reading. I read your site, bbc, cnn, and many others. You do not have to believe, just ignore me if you like. Fair enough! to no 14 It is my pleasure you do not reply, it just means you got defeated, and you know it. All what i wrote is true. It is like some of you keep saying that hamas seeks occupying Europe and Killing all disbelievers. This is simply reality-disconnected. Hamas is a group with nationalistic goals that has nothing to do with colonial ambitions. Please pick again on my spelling. how pathetic that is.

Big reader! Try reading the Hamas covenant or charter. Find it at http://www.mideastweb.org/hamas.htm. How can it be nationalism, when there never was a nation known as Palestine? It's simply religious fanaticism. About the Israelis being terrorists...do Israelis go into crowded night clubs or malls and blow themselves up? No. Those would be Arabs. As for your Ph.D. Josef Goebbels had one, too. It doesn't mean you've freed yourself of prejudice.

Ray Hanania's latest column says just about everything that needs to be said about Hamas. I don't agree with everything Ray writes by a long shot, but I have to agree with most of this one. I would probably quote most of the column, but instead, I suggest that anyone who is uncertain about what Hamas is simply read the column. Hamas can never be a partner for peace. HAMAS HAS NO DESIRE FOR PEACE WITH ISRAEL. http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3208471,00.html

Cosequences....you think Israel does not understand consequences? It is the arab world that does not understand or accept consequences. I wish the Arab world had chosen peace instead of war in 1948/1956/1967/1973, etc. etc. etc. Only they have no consequences for their intentional decision to attempt to destroy and drive the Jews into the sea. No consequences. I on the other hand had to accept the results of the Arab choice. I had to become a refugee. I had to flee Iraq. Hundreds iof thousands of Jews fleeing the Arab world as a direct result (or should I say consequence) of the arab decision to make war. Obviously having a phd and all, you know there were more Jewish refugees from the arab countries than arab refugees from the jewish country. I guess its only us that have to learn to live with the consequences, time has no meaning to the arabs, they do not have to live with the consequences and accept the results of what they started. Hamas and principles? Hamas and intentional killing? You do not want to even go there. Lets just say, teach your kids to employ themselves instead of implode themselves. Hamas and its manifesto saying nothing about eliminating jews? Listen ya ahabal, do you think the jews get to stay after hamas destroys israel? I guess I get my property back in Iraq. Now that would be something, under your hamas plan, nearly 40% of bagdad is given back to the Jews. Lets roll the clock backward for Arab sake. No consequences. I guess having a phd obviously does not make one as smart as one thinks....

First of all, for a well read person with a PhD, calling other people's opinions "BS" isn't very fitting. And about your claims of fallacy... 1 - In the Hamas charter it states "Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it." I think that refers to JEWS. 2 - Israel has never sent mercinaries into coffee shops with bombs strapped to them. 3 - "There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors." Another excerpt from the Hamas charter. 4 - Wow. I am really interested in seeing your sources... Preaches hatred? The root of terrorism in the Palestinian Authority is the warped education that is given to Palestinian children. The PA teaches The Protocols of the Elders of Zion in their school system; the same wood that burned the Nazi fire. 5 - I will refrain from this one. On the Hamas emblem, there is a picture of a mosque, two crossed swords, and a picture of Israel, including Gaza and the West Bank. If this does not illustrate their goals, I don't know what does.

EVERY PHD KNOWS ONE THING: Their Thesis must be backed by verifiable data. No one (not in this world anyway) can present a Thesis for a PHD without including a rich supply of sources to which provides actual relevancy to their work. Where did you get your PHD, the University of fantasy island? Raw emotion does not count. Even backing your emotion with more emotion does not count. Real facts from real verifiable sources which does not include nursery rhymes or folk tales. (unless of course you can provide a back up from which folk tale and or nursery rhyme your data came from) Gotcha again......In #15 you wrote the following: "nothing in my writing is with capitals." Guess you need to read over your #11. Perfect usage of capital letters except the word Jew. Unless you can back up what you write in your rants, your writting belongs in the toilet along with bullshit! In closing spewing this "You can go and check the facts yourself" just serves to prove your rants are backed not by facts but by lies and brainwashing. good day whatever your name is....

B"H #20 has the facts. #11 has the lies.

THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A DEBATE IF MANKIND CAME FROM A CREATION OR AN EVOLUTION OF SOME PREHISTORIC MONSTER OR APE. LAYLA, I JUST AM TRYING TO FIGURE WHICH APE SPECIES YOU CAME FROM. MAYBE HIGH IN THE HIMALAYAS

Olmert to give silver plated pistol to ham-ass, cocked and loaded. Olmert to give gold plated AK-47 loaded and ready to ham-ass. Olmert needs more help to help him steal more Jewish settler homes for donation to his ham-ass friends. Olmert once had a valuable soul but he gave it to Sharon and now to ham-ass, now it is worthless and rests in animal excrement. How sad.