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Homegrown extremism
Tzvi Mazel
Published: 07.02.06, 13:59
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1. Winston Churchill Said It Best:
Yishai Kohen ,   YeShA, Israel   (02.07.06)
"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping that it will eat him last." Welcome to reality, Europe. It always catches up with you.
2. " ISLAM " through pictures ...
" Cultivated " ISLAM   (02.07.06)
http://www.faithfreedom.org/gallery.htm
3. B.S.
Egyptian   (02.07.06)
The majority of Muslims do not accept those demonstrators violent way to express their disapproval. Also Muslims are the only people affected by theses demonstrations. The cartoons problem is that they are trying to connect Islam with terrorism. Despite that fact that the west offers a big support for fundamentalists dating back from early Cold War period and peaking with the war in Afghanistan. In the process, the west helped to demolish the possibility for the emergence of a secular, democratic opposition to the region's corrupt and repressive regimes. Even Israel offer support the Hamas founder Ahmed Yassin, first they release him from the prison after 1967 war and then allow him found his group and to receive money from foreign sources.
4. A message to the Danish people
Viking ,   Jerusalem, Israel.   (02.07.06)
Be strong! Do not surrender to the Muslim pressure world wide! Giving up to their anti-democratic demands would be a big mistake! Appeasing them will be the beginning of your end – Historical events only approve it: München agreement, 1938. Britain and France were trying to appease Hitler by giving away the Suddetenland, back in October 1938. They thought that by this step Hitler will not have furthermore demands and peace in Europe will occure. Unfortunately, the opposite happened, and Hitler’s hunger got bigger, which led him to the next step – Taking over the rest of Czechoslovakia(Without any serious reaction from Britain and France). We all know what happened less than a year later. Now, replace the words “Britain and France” with “Denmark and Norway”, “Hitler” with “Islamists”, “Suddetenland” with “Freedom of Speech”, “Czechoslovakia” with “Democracy” and “October 1938” with “February 2006” – You will get exactly the same situation threatening to blow up on your face! Islamic fundamentalism is no different than Nazism – Same goals, same strategy. You should see this historical event as a warning sign, a red light which is blinking nervously in order to wake you up and prevent the worst to come true. You still have the chance to show your strength. Muslims respect only those who are stronger than them – I know what I’m talking about since my country is surrounded by Muslim dictatorships. I know exactly what Islamists are capable of, I know them the best(I’m not trying to be arrogant). The moment you show signs of weakness and fear – You’re all gonna be “deadmeats”. If you will not learn your lesson from the bloody history – So help you G-d. Think about it. Goodluck.
5. Cannot stand this opinion
Joshua ,   New Jersey, USA   (02.07.06)
This opinion is asinine. Islam itself is not rearing kids to be hate. Islamic culture is politicized today but that does not mean the religion itself is a hateful one. You cannot blame Islam for this. This is a culture war. Add the fact that West Europeans have been ignorant to minorities for centuries, whether Jews or Muslims; and that the governments in the Arab World do not bother clarifying to their citizens that democratic governments do not control the press in West Europe; thus, you get this volatile chaos, based on a misunderstanding purveyed by tyrannical governments in the Muslim world. Do not call an apple an orange.
6. To #3- the BS is from You
Dr. E ,   Avon, CT, USA   (02.07.06)
..."Also Muslims are the only people affected by theses demonstrations." I guess the building destroyed (embassies, offices) and the lives disrupted don't count. Terrorist attacks : Iran Embassy Hostages, 1979; Beirut, Lebanon Embassy 1983; Beirut, Lebanon Marine Barracks 1983; Lockerbie, Scotland Pan-Am flight to New York 1988; First New York World Trade Center attack 1993; Dhahran, Saudi Arabia Khobar Towers Military complex 1996; Nairobi, Kenya US Embassy 1998; Dar es Salaam, Tanzania US Embassy 1998; Aden, Yemen USS Cole 2000; New York World Trade Center 2001; Pentagon 2001. All of these attacks were by Muslims.(Note that during the period from 1981 to 2001 there were 7,581 terrorist attacks worldwide). Yes, Muslims are terrorists, and the so-called moderate muslims do nothing to stop the terror. The Koran preaches terror, and the Imam's demand terror.
7. Exellent idea ! Don't give up to crazy Muslims !
Eddie Shor ,   Ariel Israel   (02.07.06)
8. sura sura sura
Jerry Lindell ,   Arlington,TX   (02.07.06)
Is there a scholar out there who can understand the Koran,who would kindly tell me what these two suras say: Sura 5:21 Sura 17:104 PS If you are a F 55-65,I sure could use a penpal........even if you don't know the Koran
9. more B.S.
Barry ,   Islamville   (02.07.06)
It´s time for all Arab Muslim countries to stop the blaming game (the West a.k.a Jews) and become accountable for their lousy leadership, institutionalized corruption, and violence. We are sick and tired of this contant whining like a bunch of selfish children about how the west did this or did that. Why don't you ask why you "allowed" then to do it in the first place then? No wonder you people still live in the stone ages. Have you ever heard about whining Chinese or Indian immigrants? Did the Japanese or Germans whine after WW2? Grow up or the world will give you more resons to whine!
10. Everything's happening as planned.
Isaac ,   Spain   (02.07.06)
It's all in the scriptures that Yishmael (Arabs) and Edom (Christitans) will war against eachother before Mashiach comes. Who would have guessed that this war would be triggered off by a set of cartoons drawn by Christians and made a huge deal of by the Arabs. G-d sure has a sense of humor. Jewish brothers and sisters, stop procrastinating, as difficult as it is to believe, the redemption is nearly here, make teshuva NOW. Pray daily, honour Shabbat, watch what you eat. When Mashiach comes the atmosphere will be veeeeerrrry holy, you don't want to be caught with your pants down. Am Yisrael Chai!
11. Reply to Sura Sura Sura ... Mr.Jerry Lindell
Mohammed ,   Gaza, Palestine   (02.07.06)
Dear Jerry this is the translation Sura 5:21 Moses told his people to enter the holy land that Allah make it for you. Do not go back or away so you will be loosers. Sura 17:104 Allah said later to the sons of Israelto settle the holy land. And when the 2nd time comes (The 2nd creation of the state of Israel) we will gather you from all over the world as large groups. ---------------------------------------------- Dear Againg Jerry It seems you know wich part of Quran you choose to belive in. You must read & beleieve the whole book or None. It is either from God or Not. If it is from God then read & beleive the whole things If it is from Mohammed's only imagination then you should not waste your time about any things that Mohammed about. The meaning as I translate help you point But it will not help you point if you read the whole story. Just 5 verses back will make the meaning upside down This is the majic of Quran. Will attract people who disbeleive to try to understand Thank you
12. MUSLIMS FIRST PEOPLE TO DIE FROM CARTOON VIOLENCE
Seth ,   Washington, DC   (02.07.06)
13. Munich, Not the Movie, It's for Real
Joe Levi ,   Los Angeles.USA   (02.07.06)
Prior to WW2, the free world knew that Hitler's Germany was arming itself . Also known was his vision for the Jewish future (none). Hitler threatened that if Germany was attacked, he would take revenge on the inspirers, the Jews of Europe. He talked the talk and walked the walk, and no one paid attention. Now the Muslims are doing the same, no matter we have bought trillions of their oil over the decades (allowing for all of this). Isn't it time we in the West reversed the tables on them. I am advocating no oil purchases from Muslim countries..buy Canada, Mexico, Russia, etc. I would also begin to aim our own 50,000 nukes at rogue countries...I am not my brother's keeper. Let Israel's decades long battle against Arab bigotry be a lesson for all of us in the US, before, we two are faced with a Hamas.
14. Issac in spain
Mrs. O. ,   usa   (02.08.06)
Hashem drew those pictures himself. Good art work Hashem! Now if we can picture our enemies running with their pants down cause they didn't have time to dress when the special effects arrive. I am sure he had a good laugh transmitting that information.
15. To the Followers of Islam ...
Craig Crawford ,   Laguna Niguel USA   (02.08.06)
There are religions today who teach they must convert the world "by the sword," even using terror . . . It is important to note that God, the true God of Abraham, never forces Himself on anyone ... and never in the Bible does Jesus Christ (the Greek-English translation of Yeshua Ha'Mashiach) try to force anybody to believe in Him or to attend His church or synagogue. Jesus-Yeshua simply says that He "Stands at the door and knocks." We have to open that door. God tells us that He has given each and every man and woman a free will to decide for themselves whether or not to accept His offer of salvation (life in Heaven) through Jesus-Yeshua, the Messiah. He clearly outlines the choice, and sincerely warns us of the consequences. It is a personal decision. God says that He looks at each man and woman’s heart to see if they are sincere in their belief. God is looking for people to come to Him out of love. If a man or woman ever decides not to believe in Jesus-Yeshua, that is their choice. It saddens God for He knows what their destiny will be after they die. But, never does He ask others to force a non-believer to return, or try to force them into believing through threats of injury or death. God shows us the only places we will find these coercive conversion tactics are from those who are driven by a depraved spirit and the dark power of Satan. God says the Bible is His Word. The Bible says God cannot lie and God says He will never change. The Bible has withstood the test of time. God challenges every religious system to hold the words of their books, their leaders, their founders, their prophets, and their angels up to the light of truth. God welcomes all to search His Scriptures and try to find error, contradictions, or lies. He also includes many, many prophecies to authenticate His Word. If you belong to a religion, or church, that follows a prophet or worships a god who is so small and insecure that he would have people threatened with death if they criticize or refuse to join, and will threaten people with death or bodily harm if they decide to leave through their own free will, then flee! If you follow a religion or belong to any church that is afraid to hold the people who founded the religion or the words they spoke and the books they ask you to believe, up to the light of truth, then flee! God’s warning to the non-believer is clear. But God also tells us clearly that we are not to judge others, for they will be judged by Him after our earthly bodies die. God looks directly into the heart of each man and woman to see what each truly believes. Only a strange, twisted, paranoid religion, driven by the dark and evil powers of Satan himself would ever rape, torture, kill, imprison, beat, kidnap, behead, bomb, burn alive, or harm people in any way as a means to convert or to force people into joining, or staying, in their religion. The god of that religion is not, and never has been, the God of Abraham.  Any religion that would do these things is not lead by the Holy Spirit of God. It is a religion of darkness. It is a religion of evil, twisted, wicked men, directed and lead by the power of Satan. Many blessings are promised in Heaven to those who withstand such religions and suffer or die in their faith for doing so. Remember, being a Christian (all those who love, trust, and follow the Messiah) is a relationship with God, now made possible by having our sins washed clean ('white as snow') through the precious 'blood of the Lamb'... the promised Messiah ... it is not a 'religion.' Grace and Shalom, www.alphanewsdaily.com www.theprophecies.com
16. to - 2
(02.08.06)
im not a big fan of the islam, or religion at all, and im very against their protests and i think that they totaly misunderstood this cartoon and that they are totaly exaggerating but! this site u sent us to see about the islam is too much. its too extreme and not very approporiate. not all muslims are violent.
17. The Xian scriptures
Leah Amdur ,   Jerusalem Israel   (02.08.06)
You say that your Xian religion is one of peace, have you heard of the Spanish Inquisition, and all the pograms against the Jews
18. Islamic pictures
leah amdur ,   Jerusalem Israel   (02.08.06)
Show this site to Mrs Olmert
19. #16
DR ,   Florida, USA   (02.08.06)
I think you are wrong. I think people need to see these pictures and understand that the people we are dealing with here (extreme islam) are not like us. they have different values and the see things differently than we do. Most people around the world have no clue as to who these people are. This is not too extreme by any means...it is simply the truth.
20. To #15
Michael U ,   SF,California   (02.08.06)
Craig, Though I realize as a Xtian you believe that Jesus was your messiah... The Jews do not believe that Moshiach has come. If you study the Torah and Tanak you will find that there is no way Jesus is Moshiach. I know several Xtians who converted when they realize that the Xtians have mistranslated and often skip writings which conflict with the belief that Jesus was born from a virgin, was the 'son of g-d' {g-d forbid!}, and the trinity {where does that come from?}. These are not simple things to explain, and it is why the Jews To This Very Day will not believe that Jesus was moshiach. Also, where does the concept of the Jewish people needing a human sacrafice to absolve them of sin comes from? This comes straight from pagan religion. Im sorry if this is hard to read... But in truth, I feel that Hashem doesn't want people following a false g-d, praying to a dead human being {idolatry}. For this reason I will never engage in prayers with Xtians. It is a desecration of the name of Hashem {Chillul Hashem}. Thank you, Michael U
21. Muslims respect only those who are stronger than them
Resh Nun ,   Barcelona, Qatalunia   (02.08.06)
Viking (#4) said a big truth
22. Limit speech due to sensitivity or threat?
Free? Citizen ,   San Diego, USA   (02.10.06)
Witholding offensive speech out of self-imposed compassion for making others feel offended is not morally equivalent to witholding offensive speech for fear of violent reprisal.
23. MUSLIM HATE AND RAGE AGAINST ISRAEL'S G-D
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (02.10.06)
WHERE is the MUSLIM APOLOGY to the ONE GREAT G-D of the UNIVERSE? Jews and Christians are outraged at the continual ATTACKS ON G-D by the Muslims. Muslim mobs destroyed Gaza Jews' synagogues where G-D was honored and exalted. Hamas flags flew from synagogue roofs as synagogues burned. Joseph is the beloved Bible hero of Jews and Christians. Muslims murdered IDF soldiers at Joseph's Tomb. Muslim mobs burned Jewish prayer books that gave praise and glory to the One great G-D, and destroyed the Tomb. In the Islamic invasion and filthy desecration of Jesus Christ' birthplace, Church of Nativity, BIBLES WERE TORN UP FOR TOILET PAPER. It was an act against G-D. Inscribed in those Bibles are the laws G-D gave to Moses. Some of the laws - Exodus 20: "You shall have no other gods before Me" "You shall not make for yourself an idol" "You shall not murder" "You shall not commit adultery" "You shall not steal" "You shall not bear false witness" "You shall not covet" Exodus 21:16 "He who kidnaps a man, whether he sells him or he is found in his possession, shall surely be put to death" JERUSALEM is MENTIONED OVER 800 TIMES in the BIBLE, not once in the Koran. G-D designated the Temple Mount to the Jews for His worship and prayer only. Muslims on the Temple Mount repeatedly engage in massive rock throwing at Jews, turning the HOLIEST place on earth into a common place of violence! Muslims have perpetrated massive desecration and destruction at Judaism's HOLIEST site, the Temple Mount. The OFFENSE to G-D is ENORMOUS! The Temple Mount must be returned to its Jewish owners immediately!
24. Prophecies of Messiah ... to #20
Craig Crawford ,   Laguna Niguel USA   (02.10.06)
You should go back and study the prophecies of the Messiah. Here are just a FEW of the prophecies of the Messiah FROM THE TANACH ... and concerning 'a virgin shall conceive' see below ... "Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a Son, and shall call His name Immanuel" (Isaiah 7:14) [Immanuel means "God is with us"] (Note: The Hebrew word used can be translated both 'virgin' and 'young maiden' ... however, when the 72 Jewish priests translated the word into Greek for the 'Septuagint' around 270 BC they used the Greek word which can only mean 'virgin' ... for in Greek there is a different word for 'young maiden.' The Messiah would be born in Bethlehem . . . After stepping forth from Eternity ("from old, from everlasting") "But you, O Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are little among the thousands of Judah, Yet out of you shall come forth to Me The One to be ruler in Israel, Whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting." (The Bible warns here Messiah would step forth from Eternity.) (Micah 5:2) The Messiah would ride triumphantly into Jerusalem . . . Meek and lowly . . . riding on a donkey "Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion [Israel]! Behold, your King [Messiah] is coming to you; He is just and having salvation, yet He is lowly and riding on a donkey." (Zechariah 9:9) The Messiah would be despised by the world and rejected by Israel "The Redeemer of Israel, their Holy One, To Him whom man (the world) despises, To Him whom the nation (Israel) abhors." (Isaiah 49:7) (It sounds like you qualify for fulfilling this prophecy) He would be Crucified . . . "My God, My God, why have You forsaken me?" (Psalm 22:1 . . . also see Matt 27:46) Note: With these words from the Cross, Jesus-Yeshua was pointing the Jewish leaders to Psalm 22. The Jewish leaders who were gathered around the Cross knew the Scriptures well. Psalm 22 is a detailed prophecy foretelling the death of the Messiah on the Cross. The Messiah would be quickly resurrected (raised from the dead) . . . "For You will not leave my soul in Sheol [Hell], Nor will You allow Your Holy One [the Messiah] to see corruption [decompose]." (Ps 16:10) The Jewish Messiah [Christ] would be a savior to all peoples, including Jews and non-Jews alike . . . thus fulfilling the Abrahamic Covenant "I will also give You as a light to the Gentiles [non-Jews], That You should be My salvation [saving people from the darkness and torments of Hell] to the ends of the Earth." (Isaiah 49:6) And here, Messiah held the Jewish people responsible FOR NOT KNOWING THE PROPHECIES. This is why the Temple was destroyed and the Jewish people were scattered and dispersed around the world . . . Jesus-Yeshua, the Messiah, reveals a prophecy and tells Israel WHY . . . "Now as He [Jesus] drew near, He saw the city [Jerusalem] and wept over it, saying, ‘If you had known, even you [the children of Israel], especially in this your day, [this day Daniel prophesied about] the things that make for your peace! But now they are hidden from your eyes. For days will come upon you when your enemies will build an embankment around you, surround you and close you in on every side, and level you, and your children within you, to the ground; and they will not leave in you [the Temple] one stone upon another, because you did not know the time of your visitation.’" (Luke 19:41-44) Thus, within that generation, 38 years after Jesus was crucified, Jerusalem was brutally destroyed when Titus Vespasian with the Roman Legions did build a siege wall around the city and tore down the Temple, stone by stone, EXACTLY as Jesus had prophesied ... www.alphanewsdaily.com www.theprophecies.com
25. "Not All Who Call Themselves Christian"... to #17
Craig Crawford ,   Laguna Niguel USA   (02.10.06)
"I (God) will bless those who bless you (Israel) and will curse those who curse you" (Gen 12:3) A true believing Christian (a follower of the Messiah) can never question Israel's right to Her land. One can never be a true believing Christian without a love for the children of Israel and the Land of Israel ... for they brought forth the Messiah who would be 'a light unto the Gentiles.' Jesus-Yeshua warned He would one day judge the nations and people on how they treated 'His brethren' the Jews. We are told that once 'the fullness of the Gentiles' is complete, God will once again bless His people of Israel ... we are told we gentiles are the 'wild vine' which has been grafted onto the 'true vine' Israel and we should be thankful. God will fulfill all of His covenants with the people and the land of Israel. No believing Christian can support a nation 'Palestine' (Philistine) when it is in the land God gave to the tribe of Judah (see Judges 1:18-20 and Joshua 14:13 - 15:13 - and pull out a map). This is the land which was given to the tribe which brought forth our Lord Jesus-Yeshua, who is also called 'The Lion of the Tribe of Judah' (study the book of Revelation). In other words, 'Palestinians' are 'guests' (or enemies) in the Land of Israel. According to the Bible, if you are a believing Christian, you are a servant of the Messiah, King, and Lord of ISRAEL ... Jesus-Yeshua warns, 'You are either with me or against me' ... there is no in between ... and you cannot be 'with' the Messiah of Israel, if you are against Israel ... and if you are 'with' the enemies of Israel, you are 'against' the Messiah of Israel who will one day sit on the throne of David. If a Christian doesn't believe this, they need to study their Bible, and then if they still don't believe this, they should not call themselves a 'Christian.' Jesus warns many (not a few) who call themselves Christian will not enter into His Kingdom of Heaven ... "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,'  shall enter the Kingdom of Heaven ...  MANY will say to Me in that day,  'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied [taught] in your Name,  cast out demons in Your Name,  and done many wonders in Your name?'  And then (at the judgment), I will declare to them  'I never knew you ... depart from Me  (departing from Heaven, into Hell)  you who practice lawlessness"  (Including those who 'willingly' do, approve, or say those things  that contradict the Bible, such as denying Israel's right  to defend Her people and Her land ... read the Bible ... it's theirs!!.)  (Matt 7:21-23) Many evil and wicked things have been done to the children of Israel by those who call themselves Christian ... God help us all ... for a true believing Christian should only bless Israel and be willing to lay down his life for the children of Israel, the brethren of our Lord. Grace and Shalom, www.alphanewsdaily.com www.theprophecies.com
26. Mohammed Cartoons On Web
Voltaire #653 ,   Montreal, Canada   (02.11.06)
www.drawmohammed.com
27. Cartoon riots are part of neocon campaign
Andrew Winkler ,   Sydney, Australia   (02.11.06)
The so-called Mohammed cartoon riots are part of a skilfully crafted neocon campaign, preparing the populations of Western countries for the imminent attacks on Iran and Syria. Islamic groups all over the world are infiltrated by Western agencies. First they publish some silly cartoons even the Prophet would have laughed at, then they get their provocateurs to incite riots, instilling fear of Muslim extremism, and blame them on the two countries topping their target list for a regime change. School book cases of psychologic warfare. Andrew Winkler Editor/Publisher TheRebel.Org
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