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Israel vs. Paradise Now
Itamar Eichner
Published: 12.02.06, 12:42
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61. who is occupying who?
Danial ,   free country   (02.26.06)
to answer mr Roger, the arabs were always there in the arabic regions if that makes sense to you. The jews who are group of religious people are the one who occupied the arabs land. you better read books about that fact.
62. Paranoia
palestinianjew ,   Safad , Palestine   (02.25.06)
See the only reason the zionists are making such a big deal about a film , is because they have someting to hide , the only reason they commit murder and kill in general and make a big deal about anything that has the word Palestine , is because they have something to hide for sure , they need security , and theyre scared , why? because they feel guilty , they know theyre wrong , and they know someone is naturally going to fight them , always and forever.
63. PARADISE NOW
MAJID ,   ABU DHABI   (02.26.06)
Millions of people around the world are disenchanted by some jews who are trying disperately fight the freedom of speech . The AlQaeda atacked USA where as the Palestinians didn't attack Israel. AlQaeda had no presence in Iraq before the American's attack on Iraq. These are the facts whic shouldn't be overlooked when making comparisons between the Palestinians and AlQaeda . The jews should set an example to the world so as the people of the world should react to stop carnages such as Auscwit .
64. What's next? Olympics?
Robin ,   USA   (02.27.06)
I find the opposition to the US Academy Awards nomination & possible choice of "Paradise Now" as Best Foreign Film to be appalling. What's next? Will the Palestinians be banned/opposed from participating in the Olympics? Will they be banned from sitting in the front of the bus, drinking from public water fountains, using public rest rooms??? There is two sides to every coin, always.... It is unfortunate that in this day and age, that educated, adult people still act like immature children. When will humans be able to finally live together in peace and just accept each other for what they are and not who they are?
65. Israel is fake
JewHatersRUs ,   USA   (02.28.06)
Listen u Jews, u seem to be thinking that Israel was a country since the beginning of time - idiots! It never existed prior 1967; therefore, it has always belonged to the Palestinians. So get ur cheap and grubby asses out of there, stop thinking its urs, stop occupying the ppl who live there justly, and go cry over what Hitler did to you - you hypocrites!!!!!
66. Paradise Now
Sylvia ,   San Diego,USA   (03.01.06)
Yet another example of Jewish attempts to alter the truth.That has been their tradition through out the ages but it should become the tradition of the rest of the world to stop them.Enough is enough
67. Paradise Now - freedom of expression
George ,   USA   (03.01.06)
Why all the hype - what are the powerful Jews/Israelis worried about? Do they feel the shame of the ethnic cleansing that occured in 1948. How many Israelis can claim their Grandfathers were born in Pre-Israel Palestine? There was and will always be a Palestine. Once they understand this, the conflict can be resolved.
68. re: what free speech
Luna   (03.01.06)
to #52... what happened in in 9/11 was terrorism. What happens in Israel/Palestine is resistance, granted i do not agree with suicide bombings, but it is a response and for every action there is a reaction. If we want to use the word terrorism in this situation, then it applies to both sides, since each live in terror and one side more than the other.
69. Face or drawing
Jewel   (03.01.06)
http://www.petitiononline.com/para222/petition.html
70. Petition to support the movie
Amee   (03.01.06)
http://www.petitiononline.com/para222/petition.html
71. Petition for Palestine and the movie
Lynn ,   Detroit, USA   (03.01.06)
Palestinians are a people and wherever they live, whether Israel will recognize it or not, is their land. The presenters of this film should give credit where it is due... Palestine. Sign the petition today! http://www.petitiononline.com/para222/petition.html
72. It's a shame...
Zayyan Ahmed ,   Canada   (03.01.06)
There are movies made everyday that humanize serial killers, dictators, assassins, etc. I don't understand this uproar over the movie itself, please at least WATCH the movie before you get outraged over it. As a message to Israelis, there is no way to come to peace with a people by denying their existence, you guys act like you are morally superior but more often than not resort to the same petty statements that Palestinians often make. Tolerance for one another is the only way to live...
73. Misguided Foreign Ministry & Their Twisted Concerns
Adina kutnicki ,   US   (03.02.06)
The Foreign Ministry inexplicably has no Red Lines of its own. While they harrangue about freedom of speech, they forget the larger issue at stake - the glorification through this award of homicide bombings. While democracy and freedom of speech are things to aspire to, taken to an extreme they too can be dangerous. How would they react if the Academy were to honor a film about the KKK who utilized hangings from trees as their method of choice? What about lynchings and burnings? Are these methods not considered vile under the holy rubic of "freedom of speech"? Tragically when it comes to the killings and abuse of Jews the Israeli ! Foreign Ministry opines about international sensibilites. Memo to Foreign Ministry - What comes first, saving Jewish lives or international approval?
74. Paradise Now!!!
stokely karma ,   Boston,USA   (03.03.06)
I love Israel is a bigg fat Fake!!! I'm soooo sick of the zionist jews always telling everyone what to do and then arrest them and persecute them when they disagree with you.Sounds alot like what the naziis did to their enemies.You are definitely not god's chosen people !!Neither were the naziis.
75. re #15 rob
oberon ,   St Helena, USA   (03.03.06)
Quite the contrary. The Palestinians grow wheat, grapes, all manner of citrus, all manner of vegetables including tomatoes as well as olives. Unfortunately, Israel has a stranglehold on all avenues in and out of Palestine and often prevent shipment, resulting in spoilage of perishables, with the result that only non-perishables like olives make it out. Additionally, The IDF regularly destroys Palestinian crops, including over half a million fruit bearing trees since 1967, thereby further impoverishing the people whose lands they stole.
76. An appreciator of freedom of speech.
proud ,   Australia   (03.03.06)
I will not stereotype. There are jews out there who believe in the just. But then, as evident here, there i so many generalisations, hypocracy even ignorance - on both sides. There are ao many regurgetated cliches that appeared over these pages. Not only from the palestinians but also the Isrealis. How can an injured ppl, like those belonging to the jewish faith, under the hands of a misguided fascist monster, turn around and do the same thing to another ppl? Hypocrites! Read before you judge. Do not blindly repeat what is fed to you. Judge on your own merits of wisdom and knowledge. Seek the truth. Do not point fingers. Do not generalise and say palestinians and islam. there are christian palestinians also that are rejected by both sides, that are agonising over the blood that is shed for land. it is holy, for everyone. U jewish ppl, a religion that defines your identity, do U not see the irony? this is not God's will. You type with zionist hatred, but do u not see that what you want is not possible without selling your souls, the very thing that you are fighting for? You tell the Palestinians to go home, but where is that. Palestine, Judea, Israel, Phillistine, it is all they know. Even the ancient historians, plain indesputable facts say that 'Palestine' existed as early as 5th century BC. But that is not the point. All I ask that you do not insult your intelligence - as well as mine or anyone else's - and be hypocrites. Especially you, Joshua of New York. Why are you in America when you so obviously believe in the cause of Isreal. Hypocrites!
77. What is wrong with all of you? I mean all of you.
Disappointedinyou_s ,   Everywhere   (03.04.06)
All this because of a movie? I didn't see the movie but if the author did not express a peaceful message to cover the sensitivity of the story - towards Palestenians and Israelis and towards all others (like # 39, 47 and 76) - for the viewer to go away satisfied, then the author and the movie maker are selfish and lack intellect. They wouldn't deserve any recognition. Calling names, insults and sarcasm has never led anywhere. On the other side, politicians of both sides (israelis and palestenians), in or out of Israel/Palestine, and the historical politicians too, are the ones to blame for the conflicts that these 2 populations continue living to this day. The Academy awards is no longer a good measure of good movie making. Because we have seen many movies that have been given academy awards knowing very well that internal politics among the movie making world had great influence in tricking the public to pay to see one movie of a specific actor/producer/director one year or the other, as to bring new ideas for people to want to see the academy awards and use them as influence for the consumer. The only interesting part of the Oscars is the starting credit and the small intro of the host. On a more serious note, that's no reason to think that one person SHOULD NOT EXIST. Whoever is still thinking as such, has never heard of the Zionists or those palestenians who traited their own people and made business with the Zionists. Or this "Whoever" is avoiding talking about them because of not wanting to be contradicted. Who cares about such ignorants anyway? Either you look at both sides of the story background or just shy away from helping this site make more money. I think the author and the movie maker need to show some neutral intent with a Good message. Those who's lives have led them to become a suicide bomber do not have the weapon capacity that Israelis have. Plus if your current life is a result of someone who's attacked your ancestors (the way Jews then Palestenians were) in the first half of the 20th century, and you are surrounded with poverty and lack of ambitions, I don't care who you are, chances are you would very possibly become a suicide bomber too. For lack of education and as a result, lack of chances for a stable progressive life. Look at the IRA sympathisers. They lack the means, so they commit suicidal attacks. There may be people who will want to deminish this message by lashing back at me. But I don't care because I will not come back to this site . I hope you encourage your friends to ignore it too. Then this site will stop making profit at the expense of people's weakness to be agitated over a movie.
78. Racist
T ,   Jordan   (03.05.06)
Racist as always
79. Breaking News
NS ,   Long Island, NY   (03.06.06)
At the writing of this talkback, this abomination of a movie lost the Oscar to a movie from South Africa. Also when they announced the nominees the announcer said that the film came from the "Palestinian Territories" and not from a stillborn corrupt nation. Thank goodness for small miracles!
80. Think ahead to 2028?
Fadi ,   Canada   (03.06.06)
Are we done bikkering yet? Any self respecting history- educated person knows that neither Palestine, nor Israel, nor The occupation of Iraq really matter, nor are they permannent staples in history. We Muslims occpied Spain for 800 years, and that's hardly ever mentioned these days. So what if " The Jews" occupy Palestine for 60 years, that's not even worth mentioning at ALL. History shows that this land (Palestine), The land of SIX Crusades (Which each lasted anyware from six to ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY YEARS)..... has been occupied by some passers- by for the last THREE THOUSAND YEARS. The oldest city in the World (Jericho) had a castle for Cleo Patra there, that's were the black population comes from, her slaves. Hebron is full of blond hair, blue and green eyes.... that's from the crusades. So have your say Israeli's, WE know that real promise land is really in Yemen and not in Palestine. If you haven't read that somewere yet, you haven't got your Ph. D. yet!!!! hahaaa Truth is, do what ever you want..... cuz by 2010, *there will be more Arab Iraeli's that Jewish Israeli's... and by 2028, they will all be able to VOTE (I think our Jewish Passing- by friends can understand this voting concept)... and Arab Palestineans will "Vote" your out of your country... still wanna bring democracy to the Third World? *This little "fact" was based on actual Israeli Birth Rate Statistics
81. Blindness
Rafael Baêta ,   Brasília, Brazil   (04.05.12)
USA citizens are most blinded by hate; Israel citizens are most blinded by greed; Palestinians are most blinded by faith; and the whole world is most blinded by egoism. The world will change when you open your eyes.
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