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Palestinians killed, no questions asked
Guy Ronen
Published: 08.03.06, 17:10
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1. the Ws
gil ,   paris   (03.08.06)
Have this scrupulus people made a study about the way arab medias report jews slaughtering?
2. Palestinian sources said
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (03.08.06)
Every "news" report that I have ever seen includes "Palestinian sources said," always followed by some outrageous lies.
3. who really cares?
mike ,   usa   (03.08.06)
in this war against zionists the dead palestinians are regarded as "shaheeds" and they are held in the highest of esteem and honor, plus the belief is they go straight to heaven for their eternal *reward*. if this is the case, why in the world do they complain when a muslim dies (either intentionally or unintentionally)at the hands of the occupiers? if they celebrate the death of a "martyr" and the death cult, then why complain in the media for getting exactly what they wanted? just can't please them, no matter what.
4. I have an idea...
jF ,   nashville   (03.08.06)
I agree with what #3 said but I hate it when an innocent person is hurt. Maybe they could help us out with color-codeding their martyrs. If they could just wear headbands: Black=warrior wants to fight and kill jews/maybe blow up a temple. Orange=wants to be a martyr/shoot me. White=I'm a good peaceful muslim/don't shoot me please. Green=I just want to watch and march later/maybe burn a car
5. Finally
(03.08.06)
thanks jews , (in the article- not talkbacks)for admitting your un even handling of the Jews killing the Palestinians- This is a start!! JUSTICE for all- not just jews.
6. This piece is unsrupolous
mdhalevy ,   EIlat/LA Israel?US   (03.08.06)
Gimme a break, Israel does not annihilate towns of Arabs. This is evil loose talking - in fact exactly what the Arabs want to do - and try to do with bombs and missiles. Israeli press always gives facts - the arab one's don't. Stop trying to make a false even-steven.
7. Well who do they want us to believe? Pallywood?
Steven Wilson ,   Anchorage, Alaska   (03.08.06)
The Palestinians film their own cinematic versions of the truth, and give them to western media. Most of these hollywood films are blatant lies. Why would we believe the Palestinians? Search for Pallywood on your search engine. See for yourself.
8. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN RELYING ON ARAB ACCOUNTS
Yishai Kohen ,   YeShA, Israel   (03.08.06)
http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast/05/03/jenin.tape/ Oops!
9. Score Still Shows Arab Media Lies More Often
emanon ,   USA   (03.08.06)
and on a larger scale. Mohammed Dura? According to Arabs, Israel did it. Evidence shows otherwise. Sunni vs Shiite violence? Israel's fault according to Arab media. Iran developing nuclear weapons? Israel's fault according to Iran. Buildings in Gaza destroyed after Israel gave the land away? Israel's fault according to Arab media. And the list goes on.
10. Media is very bias
Juke ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (03.08.06)
The media is very bias against the religious, settlers and right wing parties. All killings are thoroughly investigated by the various government agencies. Being that wb & gaza are closed military zones the press doesn’t always get the complete story. Israel goes to great length in minimizing collateral damages (AKA civilians killings) even putting our boys at risk (including my sons). A common Palestinian tactic is to shoot at the army from postions behind Palestinian civilians including children.
11. what happens in the territories
shaul ,   T-A   (03.08.06)
all these comments prove that we don't want to know what daily happens in the territories : a military occupation protecting settlers against the will of the population. Which entails violence, violence and violence
12. Tel Aviv
Dave   (03.08.06)
Guys, the article is clear. It shows evidence to back up what it states. The least some of you on here can do is admit that there is wrong doing when it comes to reporting these incidents. I, for one, am willing to admit this. I am a Jew from Israel but that doesn't mean I can escape reality or deny the truth. If we can't accept the truth then we can't expect our enemies to accept it. Grow up, we need an end to this conflict!
13. Agree #12
Nick ,   USA   (03.08.06)
And as Palestinians we need to admit when we are wrong too, enough blood shed and heatred, we are all humans, we all want pieceful life and to raise our children for a good and free future, lets work on that through the will of peaple and the help of those who claim they want a democratic free world......
14. To #11,12
ramallah ,   ramallah   (03.08.06)
I agree with both of you, this conflict is getting us nowhere, I hope on day I can say, yes we are at peace. I wonder if ever will be peace./ People like can do the different .
15. Media buys into Arab lies and refuses to recant with facts
David Landman ,   Boston, USA   (03.08.06)
From what I have read in the US, European, and Israeli media, most are far more ready to print Arab lies as facts rather than facts as facts. Or just as wrong, they omit facts. One of the biggest ommissions right now is Hamas is trying to destroy Israel. Well, thats partially true. Their charter also says they want to kill Jews, effectively finish the genocide that the German Nazis started. Todays liberal media is as bad an WWII Nazi propaganda. New York Times is an example of an organization that never learns.
16. Ummm.. YOU THINK?!
Mo   (03.08.06)
Doesn't everyone already know this?? When people see all Palestinians as only terrorists who live and breathe and have it in their blood to kill all Jews and anything Jewish then OBVIOUSLY there is something wrong with the media because OBVIOUSLY this can't be true! Why then haven't there been suicide bombs weekly since 1948? or since 1967? If it's so rooted deep within Palestinian blood to kill Jews just for being Jews then why did we only see this huge wave of suicide bombers since the 2nd intifada in 2000? Before that there were a couple attacks but nothing like since 2000. Obviously the media is misinforming.
17. Dont say we dont know
saba   (03.08.06)
703 kids were killed during this intifada 30% under 12 years 93% of Palestinian kids feel unsafe ....this is just an information and dont say we dont know . IDF can be really proude in creating Israel's modern History
18. BRAVO # 12
Saba   (03.08.06)
19. We ARE The Population, Shaul
Yishai Kohen ,   YeShA, Israel   (03.08.06)
And since you're clearly not aware, your city of Tel Aviv only grew as it did because the Arabs of Yaffo, next door, didn't ALLOW Jews to live there. We won't allow that here today. Jews ALWAYS lived here- for THOUSANDS of years straight. They only lived in YOUR city for a few decades.
20. Very helpful No.19...
Aaron   (03.08.06)
Is Israel not an open, democratic society, where freedom of expression is enjoyed and defended? No.19, you're adding nothing to a discussion and are actively undermining your own state's principles by trying to delegitimise No.12's opinion. As an outside observer (for which I expect a few digs) it seems to me that if the facts are verifiable and they back up the assertion, then the assertion should be acknowledged. No? Defense of a free media is a primary facet of free societies and one you might choose to be proud of... stories like this make Israel a *strong* nation. If a state must conjure its news stories in order that its population feel good about itself, all it is really accomplishing is a global statement that it is nothing more than a hard shell surrounding an unstable core... which is the very definition of weakness. If anything a patriotic Israeli might wish to seek out a remedy if there is less openess in the media. Just my $0.02
21. This article shows....
DR ,   Florida, USA   (03.08.06)
that Israelis are not perfect. This is true...no one is perfect!!! This also shows that Israel is an open, free society that is willing to look in the mirror and criticize itself. Something we never see fromt the other side (palestinians). Arabs, historically cannot self-criticize and improve, they only know how to blame others for their misfortunes. And the ones that do criticize, are often done away with ie. Sadat. Good article though.
22. It's called metamorphosis Mo
(03.08.06)
Things change---new terrorists are born. They just change tactics, just like new weapons.
23. True face
Jon   (03.08.06)
This just show the true face of Israel.Then U ask Palestinians to be so peacefull with this organized terrorism.It is really rediculous to ask the victim to be peaceful with the oppressor.
24. News Or Propaganda
Eric Blair ,   Oceania   (03.09.06)
Any discerning reader should discount all IDF accounts as being inherently self-serving and biased. There is no independent press in Israel when it comes to verification of IDF claims. The Israeli press dutifully reports what the IDF claims without any further comment. This systematic lack of independent verification by the Israeli press makes it a de facto propaganda arm of the IDF.
25. Jon
DR ,   Florida, USA   (03.09.06)
What is the Palestinians true face??? Teaching children to kill innocent Israelis and die for Allah??? Yeah great people. If they terrorized any other country around the world in the same manner they do Israel, they would probably be gone already. Israel shows more restrain than can be expected. You are obviously anti Israeli and have been exposed to false media and /or brainwashed to think that Palestinians are the "victims".
26. 23 - palestinians are terrorists, israel deals with them
mike ,   usa   (03.09.06)
palestinians voted for hamas, had the father of terrorism arafat before that. they should be so glad to have israel to deal with them because any other country (lebanon, jordan, egypt, for example) would not be so easy on them, as history has shown. palestinians are victims by choice, they get better than they deserve.
27. This is Heisenberg's Principle at work.
Earl Mann ,   Toronto, Ont. Canada   (03.09.06)
There is something quite appalling about this article. Clever people, playing clever games. This article ABOUT 'interpretation' is an interpretation ITSELF. It is one I DO NOTshare. The author holds in his hand, a sqewered, and distorted lense. He appears to be commenting on the 'Media' ...but, he is really commenting on: YOU. He is suggesting that Y-O-U are morally culpable for having allowed the Media" to soooooo "DISTORT THE TRUTH". He would have you believe that YOU are ALL somewhat , mmm, shall we say : ["morally lazy"] ... far, far, less 'righteous' than one such as he... and, that YOU invariably choose to 'sugarcoat' your narrative, which, as it turns out, is the narrative of your very existence... "Well, excuuuuuuuuuuse me". What one sees, depends to large extent, on what one looks for... "The fault dear Brutus is not in our stars, but, in ourselves" Tis the 'looker'...not the "Looking Glass".
28. Sensationalism for profit.
D- ,   San Diego, USA   (03.09.06)
Media bias? No. They're just doing their job. You have to think when you read and not just accept everything that someone says to you, just because they work for a big publication. This is the main reason why, when growing up to become a voter in a free society, they make you do schoolwork.
29. So full of crap his hair turned brown.
Bunnie Meyer ,   Santa Monica, CA   (03.09.06)
30. #27 Earl Mann - Thanks for the break down LOL
Mo   (03.09.06)
Way to break down the facts with the sweet CAPS LOCK phrases for emphasis. I love how you think you're enlightening people with your talkback when really none of it was relevant.
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