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Straw: Israel's nukes will be dealt with after Iran
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Published: 10.03.06, 20:59
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61. Abdullah: Kuwait supports Hamas even invited Iranians
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (03.11.06)
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for talks as good neighbours.... Hamas gets a bit more help to destroy Jews since it fits into the Arab picture, and it has nothing to do with what You call Occupation - nothing at all - you cannot fool us at all When the Palestinians/Arabs say "End of occupation",What do they mean? http://www.frontpagemag.com/media/slideshowimages/slide1.html I think you should go to the Arab websites and try your speech there - you are just another Israel hater who comes here in the disguise of acting friendly ....... Arabs typical Two-Faced always were and will be.
62. Abdullah
(03.11.06)
And the arabs have the advantage of 50 times more manpower, overwhelming conventional weapons, chemical and biological weapons and of course, the weapon of oil, that effects negotiations as well, the nukes negetate the effect of all the arab advatages, and only because of them the arabs sit quietly.
63. Straw creates direct link between Iraq, Israel
Jeff   (03.11.06)
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/A/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1045976245419 The British government is desperate http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31770
64. Response to nameless (post 62)
Abdullah ,   Kuwait City   (03.11.06)
"only because of them the arabs sit quietly" I doubt that the Arabs are sitting quietly! Sure the Arabs are quiet but the Persians are not and soon, Israel nukes will of no use, was this the goal all along? Sooner or later the entire region will be armed with such WMDs and then what? Peace is not made with fear or many of you adequately call it a weapon of deterrence! I have nothing against Israelis nor Jews, and as I stated before, I have many Jewish friends in the U.S. and Europe, out of which many holds an Israeli citizenship, but my only problem is with Israel’s WMDs, occupation and its policies! Peace.
65. 62 - And Arabs have nuclear weapons Abdullah forgot
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (03.11.06)
66. Mr Straw a Pompous ass
Daavid ,   USA/ISRAEL   (03.11.06)
Just like all the Brits POMPOUS ASSES
67. you shall good behave for your sake
not important   (03.11.06)
All this fuss that you are making about Mr. Straw's comments proves that, deep down insidi you, you are doing something wrong. You feel it but you do not admit it. You always get this crazy about any one who critisizes you. Yes, you shall good behave in this region for your sake.
68. 67:not important; That's what YOU are not Important
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (03.11.06)
cowards that have not the courage to add a name their babble are just that .. Not Important........ Next time you babble ... say something that has some intellectual value at least.
69. To #55
Francois ,   Paris   (03.11.06)
This is typical Arab blackmail. I don't give a sh... of Arab riots because now the French are starting to realize who are their Arab friends and because if a green thug want to torch my car, I will whack him.
70. The Last Straw
Marc Vernick ,   Westfield USA   (03.11.06)
I don't know what Jack Straw is talking about? Israel follows what is called nuclear ambiguity, neither denying nor stating that they have nuclear weapons. While it is widely assumed that Israel has such weapons, this does not mean that Israel has them. It serves Israel's interests this way. I find it amusing that Jack Straw is somehow linking Iran's nuclear ambitions to that of Israel's. Israel has never come out and declared that any country should be wiped off the face of the earth. This shows once again that although England and the rest of Europe is overrun by muslim extremism, they find it more appropriate to find fault with the jews.
71. Link between Israel and Iran...
Sean ,   Buffalo, NY   (03.11.06)
You know it's very funny that in this situation Israel can't see all of the good Iran has done for Israel historically. Remember Cyrus the Great who freed your ancestors from slavery and rebuilt the Jewish state? Remember how many important figures from the Old Testament, like Esther and Daniel, are buried in Iran? Remember how Iran has always been one of the friendliest states towards a Jewish population historically? Even now, with anti-Semitism popular in Europe, one doesn't see at all the same Jew hating events happening in Iran, even though there would be a huge tendency to do so if one deeply opposes a state created by the same religious group. The fact of the matter is Iran and Israel could be friends because Iranians have always been a fair and open-minded people. However, when Jews took land from the Palestinians, they themselves broke the laws that Cyrus used to create Israel. Furthermore, there have been various atrocities committed by Israelis committed towards Palestinians. All of this forces Iranians, who are decent people, to side against Israel for these crimes. I find it remarkable that Israelis, who should know of this, doesn't feel at all alarmed by the fact that a once great friend of Israel and Jews now has become antagonistic. MAYBE, as a result, Israelis should change their ways...maybe...
72. To Sean (no 71): Very dumb comment
Efi   (03.11.06)
You apparently haven't realized that Iran became invaded by, and turned into MUSLIMS, about 1300 years ago. Iran today sounds exactly like Hitler and Nazi Germany. Stay off the buffalos, you're getting brain damage!!
73. Francois ...
Ramzi Sfeir ,   Toulouse   (03.11.06)
one who spends his life in the Metro parisien and only learns about the news from free news papers delivered there doesnt have the minor right to criticize anyone or anything! You want to kill arabs? Join Sarko and Le Pen , they both share your same views! But remember, FRANCE IS GREATER THAN YOU! Get out of your little Paris world! Admit that EVERY Nuke on this planet is dangerous, whether its Arab, Iranian , israeli or whatever, Its DANGEROUS and it must disappear! Now deal with it!
74. To 72
sean ,   Buffalo, NY   (03.11.06)
Lol, I would think that being Muslim or not is irrelevant. Even when Iranians became Muslim it still supported Jews far more equitably than European Christians. In the end, we are talking about human tendencies that extends beyond religion and form the foundations of ones culture and identity, through history. Btw, the change from Zoroastrianism to Islam didn't happen completely until the Safavids, which were about 400 years ago. Invasions don't automatically bring about religion change instantaneously. Know Persian history the next time you try to challenge me.
75. 72 continued
sean ,   Buffalo, NY   (03.11.06)
And, forgive me, but if it was HITLER and NAZI Germany: 1. Iranian Jews would be killed instantaneously. 2. Iranians would undermine Jews living in Iran and elsewhere they have access to. 3. Iranians would be saying defamatory comments about Jews, and not just Israel.
76. Francois, Paris: Bravo - Geneva comes to help with
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (03.11.06)
the Whacking ......
77. Ramzi: Go back where your parents came from You little
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (03.11.06)
Banlieu Islamic thug You don't scare the French any more they have cought on to you thugs
78. Mr Sean strikes again!
Efi   (03.11.06)
"I would think that being Muslim or not is irrelevant." Thanks for proving that you live on Mars. Are there buffalos up there?
79. Sean ,Buffalo : What the heck are you smoking these days
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (03.11.06)
Iran - Jew friendly - They left and still leave if they can in streaks. Iranians have been exposed recently to a fictionalized television series titled, "Zahra's Blue Eyes," or "For You, Palestine." The program, carried on Sahar-1 T-V, follows the career of a fictional Israeli political candidate who supports the harvesting of the organs of Palestinian children by Israeli doctors. The fictional candidate is especially interested in obtaining seven-year old Zahra's eyes for his own son because her eyes remind him of his wife's. The series, carried on Sahar-1 T-V, was written and directed by Ali Derakhshni, a former official with Iran's education ministry. A total silence in the Iranian Jewish community about the escalating anti-Semitism in Iran.. Guess why you fool anti-semitism in Iran is alive and well. Flourishing might be a better analogy. Insulting Jews and attributing false things to them in TV serials ... has not only hurt the feelings of the Jewish community but has also, it can be said with conviction, led to the emigration of a considerable percentage of the Jewish community," IRNA quoted Motamed telling parliament. Jewish groups estimate their Iranian community has plunged to some 25,000 from about 85,000 at the time of the 1979 Islamic revolution. many israelis were born in Iran and were forced to leave the country because of oppression.
80. We will dismantle them over Iran and that way mr. Straw will
(03.11.06)
be happy, afterall it's Purim, everybody should be happy.
81. To sean (71,74,75)
(03.11.06)
This has absolutly nothing to do with anything, in the 1979 radical Muslim arabs hijacked Iran and brought it back to the middle ages, it should be dealt with like any radical Muslim arab state
82. DON'T BE FOOLISH
Arik Silverman ,   Milwaukee USA   (03.11.06)
Israel would be extremely foolish to give up its nuclear weapons, and I don't think any sensible Israeli politician would let that happen. Moreover, Israel's supporters un the USA will prevent people such as Jack Straw from forcing the issue. On the other side, one shouldn't be so afraid of Iran getting nukes. We must remember MAD as opposed to MAA: Mutually Assured Destruction as opposed to Mutually Assured Annihilation. The Soviet military thought they could withstand MAD and not face MAA. Chernobly showed them that evey a relatively small nuclear incident would create fallout that could quickly turn MAD into MAA, and they changed their attitude, allowing Gorbychev to bring about his reforms. Unless Iran becomes a country of suicidal madmen at all levers, it's inconceivable they would initiate an attack thinking they could survive. What nuclear weapons would accomplish for Iran is to level the playing field. Right now, because of its nukes and US backing, Israel doesn't have to negotiate with anybody: Israel can dictate, as we see in Olmert's latest border comments. If Iran has nukes, Israel will be forced to negotiate because it wouldn't want MAD: one nuke on Tel Aviv is not an acceptable risk even if Israel could retaliate with nukes on every Iranian town and city. ISRAEL WILL BE FORCED INTO GOOD-FAITH NEGOTIATIIONS. Is that so bad? I think it's good. ISRAEL MUST NOT RELY ON THE US. Israel must establish genuinely good relations with its neighbors, and that requires negotiation and compromise, not US-backed dictation of terms.
83. Sean in buffalo is basing his comments on
Steven Wilson ,   Anchorage, Alaska   (03.11.06)
old weather reports. The weather was good 1300 hundred years ago, so it will be as good or better tomorrow. We all know how accurate weathermen are. It's the only job that you can't get fired at, for being wrong all the time. And people even like weatherman, accept their forecasts, and don't drop thermo nuclear bombs on them. The weather will be sunny Israel. Our Iranian weatherman will drop a big white light on Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. The skies will radiate with high intensity heat. Thousands of degrees worth of it. A lot of evaporating Jews will result. I for one, can't get enough of Seans forecasts. His Palestinian history professor has taught him well in Buffalo.
84. See the Wizrd of Oz
Zeke Zukov ,   Idaho   (03.11.06)
The scarecrow made of straw in the Wizrd of Oz went to the Wizard because he didn't have a brain. This Strawman may need more than a brain. He may need a soul. Hopefully, Israel does have a stockpile of nuclear weapons. Considering that there about 5 million Jews living in Israel and hundreds of millions of hostile Muslims surrounding them, having nuclear weapons is a necessity as a deterrent. Unlike the evil and psychotic Iranian regime,Israel has never threatened any of its neighbors with a nuclear holocaust. In fact, Israel has a much greater need for a deterrent than Britain which has no enemies that are threatening it with nuclear attack. They also have the American nuclear umbrella as protection. So....., Mr. Straw, maybe the wizard will tell you to give up Britain's nuclear arsenal.
85. Bitter truth: Israel needs to deter attack
Ilan ,   Ariel   (03.11.06)
The only purpose for Israel to have nuclear weapons is to raise the cost of massive attack on it by it's neghbors to too high a cost to bear. Any use of nuclear weapons by Israel would be suicidal on it's part, but it is the best of the worst alternatives available.
86. I'm sure Hitler and Hiro Hito would of done a lot 82#
Steven Wilson ,   Anchorage, Alaska   (03.11.06)
of Negotiating Arik Silverman. They would of negotiated the rest of the Jews into gas chambers. And we would all be speaking Japanese and German. Number one rule of War. If you have to fight, have a superior weapon so that you can win. Rule number two. You will always have to fight a war eventually. Rule number three. Don't give the other asshole your technology. Rule number four. Don't ever assume the other guy is sane. Allah might double up on the virgins, if the guy incinerates the earth. This makes perfect sense to a Muslim. What does rational have to do with anything? You are justifying Muslim behaviour on western values. They aren't western. Your MADD assumption is tainted.
87. We are waiting
jason white ,   afula,israel   (03.11.06)
Well jackass when are your boyscouts going to come and take our nukes? Is this englandistan"s part in the world jihad? You are so stupid I bet you even support kadima.
88. Self-hating Jew
Ram ,   London   (03.11.06)
Straw is a moron. The guy has Jewish blood in him but keeps on spewing anti-Israel comments. Israel has not made a single threat of using nuclear means to neutralise its enemies. If Israel has nuclear power, which it has never declared, it would have had it for over 40 years. That's a respectable record! Straw is a spineless moron who should be totally ignored. Kol hakavod Israel!
89. You can write to Straw: gen.ho@gtnet.gov.uk
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (03.11.06)
You can write to Mr. Straw: gen.ho@gtnet.gov.uk
90. 79, 81, 83
Sean ,   Buffalo   (03.12.06)
79: Oh, I quite aware of the propaganda that Iran has against Israel. However, you incorrectly make the jump from Israelis to Jews. Iran concentrates its efforts on demonizing Israel, however that does not translate into going against Jews as a whole or Semites. As a result, I find the categorization of "anti-Semitism" to be overly harsh and propaganda against Iran as well. Iranian Jews have not come under pressure nor been significantly harassed. The reason why Jews are leaving can be viewed in simple logic: living in Israel is by far better than living in Iran. That's why there is such a large brain drain in Iran. 25% of all scholars leave Iran for Europe and the USA. Guess why? Because life is better over there than in Iran. Everyone who can leave Iran is leaving and it has little to nothing to do with a silly TV show. I guess you would speculate that if a person saw an advertisement that was slightly insulting for them, then they would quickly leave the country. Lol... Furthermore, in case you forgot, many Iranian Jews left during the time of the Shah for Israel. I believe the legacy of those departures was the defense minister and the president. Jews certainly during that era weren't harassed; they simply left because they wanted to go to Israel. 81: It's funny how people say, because a people chose Islam, they are automatically Arab. Biggest lie in history. First, Iranians celebrate Shia Islam, which was brought out of oblivion by the Saffavids to go against Sunni Arabs and Ottomans. So, viewing the history of Iranian religion, it's stupid to say the religion is "Arab" when it was installed as a form of "Persianized Islam". Secondly, if you knew anything about Iranians, they don't act like Arabs. Arabs blow themselves up. Name one Iranian that has done the same. Iranians, mentally and culturally, are extremely different from Arabs and it's evident by the fact that any self-respecting Iranian would kill you if you called him "Arab". 83: The weather is going good right now. Iran hasn't attacked the civil or religious rights of Jews. Furthermore, Iranians, who have long had Biological and Chemical Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMDs), have never used them against any other nation. Like Israel who hasn't used nuclear weapons thus far. Furthermore, Iranians are the second most WMD affected population in the world, after Japan, because of the WMD attacks done by Saddam. Now why would a population who has been devastated by such weapons before use them against others??? The current demonstration in Iran, in fact, is made up of Iran-Iraq war veterans. If you had a friend die because of such weapons, you wouldn't want others to die from it as well. That's logic, which is why I predict clear skies so long as the extremist portions of the Israeli or Iranian governments do not take reckless action. I pray that your forecast happens for neither Iran nor Israel.
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