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Israel: Front against Hamas not breached
Ronny Sofer
Published: 20.04.06, 14:20
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1. Palestine will win
John ,   Belgium   (04.20.06)
Palestinian People will defeat israelis and soon
2. Britain and Hamas
ger ,   Raanana, Israel   (04.20.06)
How easily they lie, and how easily we accept their lies.
3. We will have to talk to Hamas
Adam Keller ,   Holon,. Israel   (04.20.06)
We will have to talk with them. sooner or later, and the sooner we do it the less lives will be lost.
4. Iran and Russia
Muhammad-Ali ,   Montreal   (04.20.06)
Not that the US and EU have boycotted Hamas, Hamas will go the hands of Iran and Russia, the enemies of the West.
5. WIN
T. ROLAX ,   ATLANTA, USA   (04.20.06)
DON'T YOU KNOW THAT THERE IS NO WIN WIN IN THIS SITUATION. IF THIS FIGHTING CONTINUES, BOTH SIDES WILL CONTINUE TO LOSE. THERE WILL NEVER BE A WIN WIN UNLESS THE FIGHTING AND HATE ENDS.
6. John from Belgium...
DR ,   Florida, USA   (04.20.06)
Win what? There is no door prize here. Palestinians want a state, that is their ultimate goal. Israel will not accept a TERROR STATE as a neighbor and the world agrees that it cannot be expected to do this. Palestinians are the world biggest losers to date. They believe everything their corrupt leaders tell them and therefore live in squalor and misery. of course someone from Belgium, a very anti Israeli country will support and defend terror, but the rest of the world will not. Belgium has been known to be an appeaser rather than a fighter...not shocking that you think this way at all.
7. UK JEW-HATERS Don't Want GENOCIDAL HAMAS CHARTER Changed
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (04.20.06)
In YNET article: "UK wants 'normal relations' with Hamas", UK Foreign Secretary Straw declared: "Hamas doesn't have to change charter" Israel needs strong leaders. Not weak leaders who seek only to please the US, UK, EU and UN instead of defending Israel and winning the war on terror. The Hamas Charter of hate and genocide calls for the murder of all Jews. This Hamas platform is what Palestinian Authority society voted for. Road Map architect Jew-haters don't care that genocide breaks international law. They call this method of killing Jews the peace process. From the Hamas Charter: Israel, by virtue of its being Jewish and of having a Jewish population, defies Islam and the Muslims. Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it. The Day of Judgment will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad...
8. 3 Adam Keller: have you joined the 5th column
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (04.20.06)
The Arabs ? when you support same - then you are a traitor to Israel - leave You don't sound as a real Israeli
9. 1John , Belgium: Could you come with facts please
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (04.20.06)
Stop posting crap and BS A fact you have not learned - The term "Palestinian" is itself a masterful twisting of history. To portray themselves as indigenous, Arab settlers adopted the name of an ancient Mediterranean tribe, the Philistines ("Invaders" in Hebrew), that disappeared out over almost 3000 years ago. The connection between this tribe and modern day Arabs is nil. Romans, in order to conceal their shame and anger with rebellious regions, changed the references to Judea and Samaria by naming them Palestine. 1. Nationhood and Jerusalem - Israel became a nation in the 14th century B.C.E. Two thousand years before the rise of Islam. 2. Since 1272 B.C.E. the Jews have had dominion over the land for up to 1,000 years with a continuous Jewish presence in the land for the past 3,300 years. 3. The only Arab dominion since the Arab invasion and conquest in 635 C.E. lasted no more than 22 years. 4. King David founded the city of Jerusalem. Mohammed never came to Jerusalem. 5. For over 3,000 years, Jerusalem has been the Jewish capital. Jerusalem has never been the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Even when the Jordanians occupied Jerusalem, they never sought to make it their capital and Arab leaders did not come to visit. 6. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in Tanach, the Jewish Holy Scriptures. Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the Koran. 7. Jews pray facing Jerusalem. Muslims pray facing Mecca (often with their backs toward Jerusalem). 8. In 1854, according to a report in the New York Tribune, Jews constituted two-thirds of the population of that holy city. 9. In 1867, Mark Twain took a tour of Palestine. This is how he described that land: A desolate country whose soil is rich enough but is given over wholly to weeds. A silent, mournful expanse. We never saw a human. 10. In 1882, official Ottoman Turk census figures showed that, in the entire Land of Israel, there were only 141 000 Muslims, both Arab and non-Arab. 11. A travel guide to Palestine and Syria was published in 1906 by Karl Baedeker; estimated the total population of Jerusalem at 60,000, of whom 7,000 were Muslims, 13,000 were Christians and 40,000 were Jews. 12. In 1922, with what was widely acknowledged as the illegal separation of Transjordan, the Jews were forbidden to settle on almost 77% of the Palestine, while Arab settlement went unrestricted and encouraged by British mandatory authority. Did you know that Saudi Arabia was not created until 1913, Lebanon until 1920? Iraq did not exist as a nation until 1932, Syria until 1941; the borders of Jordan were established in 1946 and Kuwait in 1961. Any of these nations that would say Israel is only a recent arrival would have to deny their own rights as recent arrivals as well. They did not exist as countries. They were all under the control of the Turks. Over 80% of the original British Mandate land was given to Arabs without population transfer of Arabs from the land designated for Jews.
10. 5 T. ROLAX : you obviously lack facts
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (04.20.06)
Terrorism against the State of Israel has to stop - then peace will come Islamic terrorism has to stop - then peace will be world wide Listen to what some enlightened Arabs say: http://tinyurl.com/dl2dm and : Walid Shoebat website - From Hate to Love http://www.shoebat.com/ So what about Wafa Sultan: (a MEMRI clip)... by listening to this - it is in Arabic and subtitled in English. Wafa Sultan, which was interviewed in chain Al-Jazeera in Qatar: She warns the islamist radicals and their idea: Don't miss this and pass along ! http://switch5.castup.net/frames/20041020_MemriTV_Popup/video_480x360.asp?ai=214&ar=1050wmv&ak=null what about Dr. Ali ......... http://www.faithfreedom.org What about Nonie Darwish tells it like it is www.noniedarwish.com http://www.charityadvantage.com/sss/NONIEDARWISH.asp What about Brigitte Gabriel Interview http://www.phyllis-chesler.com/db_video.html Fast Connections: http://tudorproductions.com/media/Duke_Brigitte_interview.wmv http://americancongressfortruth.com/media/Duke_Brigitte_interview.wmv Slow connections: http://tudorproductions.com/media/Duke_Brigitte_interview_s.wmv http://americancongressfortruth.com/media/Duke_Brigitte_interview_s.wmv
11. Hamas supporters #1 and #4
Isac ,   Florida   (04.20.06)
#1 Palestine will win: do you moron have any idea that Palestinine was the State of Israel before it was founded 1948 in which mainly Jews but also Arabs lived. "Palestinians" do not have historically any claim on the name "Palestine". None what so ever. Read the books. #4 My many thanks to clarify, that Russia is ONCE again the official enemy of the West. As you also may know, Russia is broke and the $10 million financial help will maintain Hamas probably an additional 18 hours of their short life.
12. #1 John, have you ever stopped to think why the so-called pa
Judith ,   Still in Haifa   (04.20.06)
estinians, never rebelled against the Jordanians? Maybe because they (you?) felt happy under Jordanian rule? Or maybe not (look up the bloody massacre called "Black September"), but the point is they (you?) were afraid of the Jordanian Arab brethren, and sat quietly until Israel, upon being attacked by Jordan in 1967, conquered the "West Bank". 2) Have you ever wondered why it is (still) called the west bank? It is situated east of Israel, now isn't that strange… 3) Another thing, if the situation was reversed; 22 Jewish states and only one tiny little Arab state - the Jewish states would not allow their brothers to suffer in refugee camps! No question about it, they would be living with their Jewish brothers and sisters in any of the 22 states. 4) Why do you think "Pals" (you?) are treated so badly by other Arabs? - Because they (you) are being used as pawns in the Islamic war against the Jews (and west). The Arabs don't care if they (you) all die in the useless religious Holy war against "infidels".
13. JOHN FROM BELGIUM - READ ON - WANT AN MP3 PLAYER?
andrew ,   Miami, Fl   (04.20.06)
Van Holsbeeck Murder: Bending Over Backwards in Brussels From the desk of Paul Belien on Thu, 2006-04-20 12:35 Joe Van Holsbeeck, the 17 year old boy who died after being butchered with a knife by North African youths in Brussels Central Station last week, was buried today. Muslim immigrants distributed home baked bread during the funeral. Joe was savagely stabbed to death Wednesday a week ago when he refused to hand over his MP3 player to the North Africans. Immediately after the assassination the police inquired whether Joe had made any “racist remarks” whilst been mugged, but Joe and his family and friends were not racists. On the contrary. continue reading http://www.brusselsjournal.com
14. Israel On The Ropes...
R Mogelson ,   USA   (04.20.06)
I as an American see Israel crumbling away piece by piece. If I was to place blame on her demise, it would have to be squarely with her citizens. The people have decided to quit fighting for their survival, and have alected a government who refuses to face terror acts-and for that matter, to protect the country's citizens from attack. Olemart and his band of appeasers is exactly what Israelis deserve. Do us a favor and don't whine because the big bad Arabs are taking it to you. Put up your dukes, or shut up. I am disgusted with the chosen people, and am ashamed to be Jewish.
15. this jonh idiot # 1
keren ,   sao paulo   (04.20.06)
is the same jonh that hangs here around once in a while,now saying he is from Belgium. He is only a poor one that likes to be bashed, and ,as Arafat ,just like man.That's all;nothing more than that!
16. UK BETRAYAL - Hamas Goal: CONQUEST of ISRAEL & EUROPE
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (04.20.06)
UK Jew-haters betray Israel, Europe, and every non-Muslim on earth. THERE IS NO WAR ON TERROR. Hamas knows that words, not actions, was all that America and Europe required of PLO/Palestinian Authority terrorist organization, who broke ALL agreements. For many years, American and European tax dollars financed the war against the Jews. The military wing of Palestinian Authority Abbas's Fatah party, the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, is responsible for massive terrorist atrocities against Jewish innocents. U.S. EU, UN and Russia demand Israel give half of her tiny land to Islamofascists. The land in Gaza, Israel surrendered to the Islamo-Fascists has been transformed into Hamastan - terrorist training camps and a base for global terrorists. The U.S. EU, UN, and Russia with a political/religious agenda of forcibly removing the hated Infidel Jews from the Biblical heartland seek to duplicate in Judea and Samaria what Islamic terrorists were empowered to achieve in Gaza. The Hamas goal is conquest of Israel and Europe: HAMAS Targets Spain By Dr. Rachel Ehrenfeld FrontPageMagazine.com | January 2, 2006 It is not only Palestine that children in the West Bank and Gaza are asked to liberate; now they are asked to liberate Seville. The HAMAS children’s magazine, Al-Fateh, in a recent issue, (No. 66), tells the children about the city called Asbilia (Seville) and calls on them to free it, together with the whole country, from the infidels and to reinstate Muslim rule... Qaradawi, calls on Muslims to conquer Europe, saying: “Islam will return to Europe as a conqueror and a victor... Apparently encouraged by successful Jihad against Israel, HAMAS is now raising the ante, going international. Just as they have indoctrinated a generation of Palestinian children to commit suicide attacks against Israelis, they are now expanding their targets to include the rest of the Caliphate – beginning with Spain. It is only a matter of time, before today’s Palestinian children, and others exposed to HAMAS’ publications start offering themselves up for the next stage of Jihad in Spain. http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=20726
17. To Mogelson #14
Josh ,   Jerusalem   (04.20.06)
If you're such a fighter, why don't you come join us in Israel instead of putting us down from your comfy life in the US.
18. 14 R Mogelson, USA: If you really support Israel Then
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (04.20.06)
Stop bashing them - support and helpm them Israelis do their best - and are a proud and good people - I support and work for Israel for over 40 years You make me angry - real angry What have you done for Israel the last 40 years - instead of bashing Tell me all about your acts I am waiting
19. # 14 mogel.....
keren ,   sao paulo   (04.20.06)
more shameful are YOUR words! And I suggest you :convert to muslim or: "Put up your dukes, or shut up."
20. #1
Jane   (04.20.06)
If you mean the Jews, the original Palestinians, then you are right. If you mean the Arabs, the current Palestinians, you are wrong.
21. #4
Jane   (04.20.06)
Makes sense, since Hamas is already an enemy of the west.
22. Nos 7 9 11
Halim   (04.20.06)
Thank you revira , as a muslim (who know nothing ) about islam you open my eyes to the fact that all muslims have to fight the jews because of their dirty works against the humanity , thank you again your post was very helpful to me to decide. .jihad is the solution. No 9 Why the posting of the peoples who supporting the right of the Palestinians craps Look at you and your history lesson which is BS , and you proved to us that you idiot. No 11 The total population of the arab jews in Palestine was 16000 and we know them well.
23. Europeans - HUMILIATED and SUBSERVIENT to ISLAM
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (04.20.06)
In response to the European occupation of Europe by Europeans, is the EU planning to initiate a peace process and offer Muslims half of Europe? Will the EU, following the Palestinian Authority model; finance, arm and train Muslim terrorist organizations, declaring it is a necessary requirement for the internal security of European Muslim territories? Eurabian Nightmares By Andrew G. Bostom FrontPageMagazine.com | March 13, 2006 While Europe Slept chronicles Bawer's personal encounter with Europe's ongoing Islamization since late 1998... France is already 12% Muslim and Switzerland 20%... Already, in most of Western Europe, 16 to 20 percent of children are Muslims...within a couple of generations many [Western European] countries will have Muslim majorities. ...a Danish Muslim leader, typical of many European imams, declared triumphally in 2000, “Muslims have a dream of living in an Islamic society…This dream will surely be fulfilled in Denmark…We will eventually be a majority”. And such demography is already destiny in Islamic satellite colonies interspersed throughout Western Europe where demands for sovereignty began well before the recent Muslim intifada in France this past fall, 2005. In France, a public official met with an imam at the edge of Roubaix's Muslim district out of respect for his declaration of the neighborhood as Islamic territory to which she had no right of access. In Britain, imams have pressed the government to officially designate certain areas of Bradford as being under Muslim, not British, law. In Denmark, Muslim leaders have sought the same kind of control over parts of Copenhagen. And in Belgium, Muslims living in the Brussels neighborhood of Sint-Jans-Molenbeek already view it not as part of Belgium but as an area under Islamic jurisdiction in which Belgians are not welcome. These burgeoning Muslim communities are also consuming disproportionate amounts of state sponsored welfare benefits. For example, Danish Muslims comprise 5% of the population, yet they receive 40% of the governmental outlays... ...the social workers themselves are often tyrannized by their Muslim clients. Bawer describes the chilling situation in Denmark: Some clients lay waste to social security offices and hit social workers... Bawer further documents how Norwegian (Oslo) imams preach brazenly that Muslims should expect such welfare benefits-and feel justified in supplementing them by stealing from stores-as a form of jizya* extracted from their infidel "host" societies-societies that have not yet accepted their requisite subservience to Islamic Law! http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=21609
24. 22 hal...
keren ,   sao paulo   (04.20.06)
..." their dirty works against the humanity " Can you say what are you talking about in your above statement? And take the chance to tell me what's muslim works,out of being the satans that intent to destroy humanity! I am waiting your answers!
25. Israel is in the best shape it's EVER been since re-created.
David Landman ,   Boston, USA   (04.20.06)
Eretz Yisrael is thriving, economically, culturally, ethnically. Look at what Jews have done in the 60 years since Israel was re-created. Jerusalem is once again our unified capital. Arabs have never and never will be again to defeat Israel. Every time they try they lose more. Palestinians are the best example of people who prefer to struggle to lose more than to gain peace and prosperity. We are getting close to a two state solution: Israel and Jordan Palestine. This failed experiment of creating a second Arab Palestinian state is ending. Those who support Hamas are the same people who appeased the German Nazis. There is only one difference between Hamas Nazis and German Nazis. Hamas does not and never will have the power to kill us. The real question is who in the world will appease these Arab Nazis and what Israel should do against nations that appease Hamas? I do not see Fatah and Abbas the holocaust denier as any better. At least Hamas is honest with their goals. Lets all be honest and admit there shouldnt be a second Arab Palestinian state. One on 80% of historic Palestine is more than enough.
26. To # 6
Aboud ,   Palestine   (04.20.06)
Well, iseralies may not accept what you call a "terror state" next you, and yes some of our leaders are corrupt, but some of yours are also corrupt or did you forget about Sharon's Son and Benimen Netythihu who stole your money and funded there campghines by illegal measures. I admitt that most of our Leaders espically those in Fatah Are corrupt but this is why the palestinian people choose Hamas. This is why people are running from there corrupt people to another party Hamas. You can go on with your naive statments you an other zionists writing tackle backs on this site. But ill tell you somthing If you blind hatered twoards palestinians never end. then there is no solution for our struggle. Your Stronger, Your one of the Strongest States in the World, but guess what dont relie on that for too long, cause history teaches us that the occupier will eventually lose, and one day you will have to admitt that the palestinian people have there rights to exist to have a country and to live side by side, i hope this will happen soon. I hope Peace will come to this holy Land and the narrow minded people, who can't see the Love will eventually take off there blindfold. www.vivalapalestine.blogspot.com
27. To mr. John from Belgium.
Caligula's Horse ,   Solomon's Stables   (04.20.06)
You can be sure that Muslims will conquer your country and the rest of Europe before they will do anything to us.
28. STRAW is the Parliament Member for Large Muslim Constituency
Alan ,   SA   (04.20.06)
.. It is BLACKBURN in the North of England.... How can Jack Straw be neutral if his return to the British Parliament and hence his living depends on the goodwill and votes of Muslims who make up an important portion of the Blackburn Population.
29. read this
yara ,   london   (04.20.06)
Are calling your craps FACTS??? Common be a bit logical,, Jewish Christianity are confirmed by kuran and much respected ,, Being a country with no rights but to jwish makes Israel the most rear country in the world, Islam doesn’t call for fighting other religions ( i think that you don't really have any idea about it ) and Jihad is not against a religion but it is against those who are fighting Muslims so it is a defending more that an active action,, i have an advice for you,, read more,,
30. Are these two guys with the green hats golfing buddies or
Steven Wilson   (04.20.06)
what? Irish Terrorists? Leprecauns? All of the above?
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