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Ex-Mossad chief: Take Iran seriously
Yitzhak Benhorin
Published: 03.05.06, 21:04
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1. Someone answer me please.
David Cohen ,   Miami Beach   (05.03.06)
Would Iran risk Nuking up the region and the Dome of the Rock Al-Aska in order to eliminate Israel? Would Iran risk Mecca's existance as well? Does Iran want to start WW3?
2. Yes
Lisa ,   USA   (05.03.06)
3. Thank God for Experts
Yoel Ariel ,   US   (05.03.06)
Wow. Thanks for the advice. WHAT WOULD WE DO WITHOUT EXPERTS?????? (((End)))
4. Iran - more questions
J K ,   NYC, USA   (05.03.06)
More questions: Does Amedinejad realize that by nuking Israel he will also kill hundreds of thousands of Arabs and Muslims as well? And not only in Israel, but the fallout cloud that would likely extend into Syria, Jordan and Iraq? Not to mention that one of Israels subs will turn all of Iran into a glass parking lot? This guy is a total whack
5. David--Here is your answer
Jerry ,   Eilat   (05.03.06)
1--Iran and others have indicated the the death of Moslems to achieve global goals are acceptable. 2--The big picture is what counts. 3--It wants to win WW 3
6. #4
(05.03.06)
So what, Iran is a shite country the arabs in Israel are sunnis. In Iraq Shites and sunnis are killing eah other. Why would Iran care about sunnis. In fact,Sunnis don't care about sunnis they teach their sons to be suicide bombers against shites in iraq and vice versa for the shites. The western value of human life doesn't exist in the arab countries. unfortunately, if they did exist we wouldn't be having the problems we have today.
7. Yoel, you are right, but.....
DR ,   Florida, USA   (05.03.06)
sometimes it takes an "expert" to say these things for people to actually listen. I do not need an expert to tell me that a threat is legitimate, I will decide on my own, but some people can't do this.
8. Iran - How far will Ahmadinejad go?
Suley ,   London   (05.03.06)
They have brainwashed their fanatical followers into a blind hatred of the US, Europe, Israel, Sunni Islam preaching death and destruction and preparing them for war. They are not only building bunkers for their nuclear facitiies but a national bunker network They are feverishly trying to build nuclear weapons aside from a massive build up of conventional missiles, battleships, submarines and fighter aircraft. There are ever more eerie reports indicating that Ahmadinejad is mentally unbalanced and emotionally unstable They have withdrawn all financial assets from western banks and investing heavily in gold They are arming their proxy terrorist conspirators Hizbollah, Hamas, Syria to the teeth who in turn are urging Iran on. Does anyone have any doubts where all this is leading?......
9. this is what i think number 1
mike   (05.03.06)
Iran is determined to be the head honcho of the middle east from what i understand. They might not use the bomb. However, it will give them the temerity to fund more terror activities or to be more up front about their involvement because they will be safe in the knowledge that there will be no military opposition to whatever they do or say. it will just be like the situation with north korea. they can blackmail their neighbours. on top of that, hezbollah and islamic jihad will become over confident and might become more daring in the acts of violence. another problem is that other arab countries will also try and jump on the nuclear bandwagon, thereby, causing nuclear proliferation in the middle east.
10. To David #1
Josh ,   Jerusalem   (05.03.06)
Radical Islamic ideology is based on jihad, a holy war to completely annihilate the infidel, or in this case the entire western world. Ahmadinejad is a believer of this ideology so he inherently strives for war. He is also a Shi'i Muslim. Shi'is and Sunnis have been at war for centuries and as you can see by what's going on in Iraq, have little regard for each other's lives. Ahmadinejad not only doesn't care too much about wiping out all the Sunni Palestinians, but actually sees this as a great strategic move which would make Shi'i Islam, and more importantly Iran, the leaders of the Muslim world which they so strive to create. When the leader of a powerful country like Iran says he wants to wipe Israel off the map, we must take him seriously.
11. answer to #1
Uzi   (05.03.06)
All you need is one psycho in power willing to sacrifice a few million of his own people and some historic mosques in exchange for the "glory" of destroying the "Zionist enemy". Or it could be just some unhappy mid-level general with the keys to the loading docks - ala Dr.Strangelove- who hands off some fissile material to a terrorist subcontractor and - boom, there goes Tel Aviv. The problem is that the population of Israel is so small that if someone is willing to absorb substantial casualties on their side, it is perfectly feasible that we'll have Holocaust, The Sequel...
12. Re# 6
Observer   (05.04.06)
U should have a simple brain that grasp some math.All these problems are managed by Israel.Israel has influenced the US to invade Iraq, part of the 9/11 claims are related the Israeli occupation. Let Israel gives true intention for peace and most if not all the problem would be solved.US interested to have instability to extend its control over the oil resources and this is one of the main reasons why US in collaboration with the west plant Israel in the ME. I hope U have the ability to connect things together...
13. its all about the 12th Imam - stupid
Yisraeli   (05.04.06)
As Iran rushes towards confrontation with the world over its nuclear programme, the question uppermost in the mind of western leaders is "What is moving its President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to such recklessness?" Political analysts point to the fact that Iran feels strong because of high oil prices, while America has been weakened by the insurgency in Iraq. But listen carefully to the utterances of Mr Ahmadinejad - recently described by President George W Bush as an "odd man" - and there is another dimension, a religious messianism that, some suspect, is giving the Iranian leader a dangerous sense of divine mission. In November, the country was startled by a video showing Mr Ahmadinejad telling a cleric that he had felt the hand of God entrancing world leaders as he delivered a speech to the UN General Assembly last September. When an aircraft crashed in Teheran last month, killing 108 people, Mr Ahmadinejad promised an investigation. But he also thanked the dead, saying: "What is important is that they have shown the way to martyrdom which we must follow." The most remarkable aspect of Mr Ahmadinejad's piety is his devotion to the Hidden Imam, the Messiah-like figure of Shia Islam, and the president's belief that his government must prepare the country for his return. One of the first acts of Mr Ahmadinejad's government was to donate about £10 million to the Jamkaran mosque, a popular pilgrimage site where the pious come to drop messages to the Hidden Imam into a holy well. All streams of Islam believe in a divine saviour, known as the Mahdi, who will appear at the End of Days. A common rumour - denied by the government but widely believed - is that Mr Ahmadinejad and his cabinet have signed a "contract" pledging themselves to work for the return of the Mahdi and sent it to Jamkaran. Iran's dominant "Twelver" sect believes this will be Mohammed ibn Hasan, regarded as the 12th Imam, or righteous descendant of the Prophet Mohammad. He is said to have gone into "occlusion" in the ninth century, at the age of five. His return will be preceded by cosmic chaos, war and bloodshed. After a cataclysmic confrontation with evil and darkness, the Mahdi will lead the world to an era of universal peace. This is similar to the Christian vision of the Apocalypse. Indeed, the Hidden Imam is expected to return in the company of Jesus. continued-
14. 12th Imam cont.
Yisraeli   (05.04.06)
Mr Ahmadinejad appears to believe that these events are close at hand and that ordinary mortals can influence the divine timetable. The prospect of such a man obtaining nuclear weapons is worrying. The unspoken question is this: is Mr Ahmadinejad now tempting a clash with the West because he feels safe in the belief of the imminent return of the Hidden Imam? Worse, might he be trying to provoke chaos in the hope of hastening his reappearance? The main rift is no longer between "reformists" and "hardliners", but between the clerical establishment and Mr Ahmadinejad's brand of revolutionary populism and superstition. Its most remarkable manifestation came with Mr Ahmadinejad's international debut, his speech to the United Nations. Instead, they heard the president speak in apocalyptic terms of Iran struggling against an evil West that sought to promote "state terrorism", impose "the logic of the dark ages" and divide the world into "light and dark countries". The speech ended with the messianic appeal to God to "hasten the emergence of your last repository, the Promised One, that perfect and pure human being, the one that will fill this world with justice and peace". In a video distributed by an Iranian web site in November, Mr Ahmadinejad described how one of his Iranian colleagues had claimed to have seen a glow of light around the president as he began his speech to the UN. "I felt it myself too," Mr Ahmadinejad recounts. "I felt that all of a sudden the atmosphere changed there. And for 27-28 minutes all the leaders did not blink…It's not an exaggeration, because I was looking. "They were astonished, as if a hand held them there and made them sit. It had opened their eyes and ears for the message of the Islamic Republic." Western officials said the real reason for any open-eyed stares from delegates was that "they couldn't believe what they were hearing from Ahmadinejad". Their sneaking suspicion is that Iran's president actually relishes a clash with the West in the conviction that it would rekindle the spirit of the Islamic revolution and - who knows - speed up the arrival of the Hidden Imam. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/01/14/wiran14.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/01/14/ixworld.html
15. 2nd coming
John ,   NZ   (05.04.06)
He's preparing for the the Islamic version of the Second Coming... even though we are not ready. We should not only take him seriously, we should seriously take him out.
16. We're already in the middle of WW3
(05.04.06)
Afghanistan and Iraq allow us to attack from both sides. Evil Empire included Iran. Just another step on the ladder of freedom.
17. No sacrifice is too much!
Ram ,   London   (05.04.06)
Abu Hamza al Masri once chillingly described the extent to which muslims should be prepared to go to achieve their goal of world domination. He suggested that with the world muslim population exceeding one and a half billion that it would be a small sacrifice if fifty or a hundred thousand or more should become suicide bombers, of course, plus collateral moslem damage, to achieve world domination . I have no doubt that Iran would be prepared for any number of moslem losses to achieve its goal of leadership amongst the moslem nations. The current wave of fundamentalism suggests that "the end will justify the means" attitude is being employed, regardless of the price paid. Having said all that, Iran seems to be accelerating a clash between Islam and the west. No doubt this will be for the benefit of the west for the following reasons: 1) At present westerners are resentful of the invasion, by moslems, of their countries but, polical correctness excercised by governments and law lords are failing them. 2) Moslem populations in western coutries are growing at an alarming rate. At this pace within a few decades they will represent the majority in many countries, thus taking over through the womb. 3) The current aggression demonstrated by Iran is opening the eyes of western countries as to the dangers looming thus action will be taken sooner rather than later. It will take the constant provocation by the likes of Ahmedinajad to spark off the clash. Once the clash begins the west will unleash a brutality reminiscent of the worst wars in history. In any case, Iran will be stopped. If all fails, i.e. Iranians do not topple their government or the west doesn't stop Iran from obtaining the bomb, Israel will have no choice but to deal with the problem come what may.
18. iran is playing nuclear poker without any cards
danny ,   santa cruz usa   (05.04.06)
relax. impersonal laws dictate that if you kill 5 people you will be killed five times.death is a reward, not a bad t hing just ask everybody who ever lived, who wont die that we can't see as we are only people not gods
19. This nut Ahmadinejad is more ill than
John ,   NZ   (05.04.06)
North Korea's Kim Jong ill. Anybody who believes he's telling the truth is sick.
20. suley #8, no doubts. ww III is starting
alan ,   frisco   (05.04.06)
Let us hope when the first rocket goes up, someone cares where it will come down a first strike must obliterate the chance of a nuclear counter-attack. there are no road maps for where this is heading. let us hope are leaders become great men quickly and eliminate this unhinged fanatic asp.
21. Kurdish liberty is the key to saving the world from Iran.
Ruslan Tokhchukov ,   Redmond, WA, USA   (05.04.06)
I am astonished by the Western world's squeemishness about taking on Iran. Iran is a colonialist empire, and should be dismantled. The United States was born in a struggle against colonialism, and opposing colonialism has been its principle ever since. What makes Iranian colonialism more legitimate than English? Strike Iran full force, and simultaneously give an all-out support to the pro-Independence forces in Iran's colonies. Free the Eastern Kurdistan from Iran and let it unify with the Iraqi Kurdistan into the independent Kurdish state. Let Southern Azerbaijan unify with the already independent Azerbaijan. Similarly, free Southern Turkmenistan to unify with Turkmenistan, and Western Baluchistan to unify with Pakistan. . Break up Iraq along the natural fault lines: a Shiite state in the South, a Sunni one in the middle, and the Free Kurdistan up North. I don't see any reason why any of the three would resist it too much. The biggest reason for the Sunni insurgency against the U.S. - imposed democracy is that for them it would mean perennial domination by the Shiite majority, but if they secede, it will give them control of their own destiny, in their own separate state. And I don't think the war-weary Shiites are eager to lord over the Sunni areas which have turned into a Vietnam for them. Besides, the Shiites have oil, and the Sunnis don't, so why should the Shiites wish to share their oil with the Sunnis? And, of course, the much-suffered Kurdish people will be overjoyed to have their dream of their own independent country fullfilled. If the 5 million "Palestinians" who are no different than other Arabs have the right to their own state, why not 25 million Kurds with their distinct culture and language? We, the Americans, have disgraced ourselves repeatedly by committing horrible acts of treason against the Kurdish people who have always been our friends. We have failed to do right by the Kurdish people for their own sake, now we must do right by them for our own sake, because the only way for us to extricate ourselves from the bad situation in Iraq and remove the grave threat from Iran is through the Kurdish liberty. The biggest obstacle to it is Turkey which is against independence for any Kurds in any other countries, lest its own 12 million Kurds get any ideas. The U.S. government must convince Turkey to drop any opposition. The Kurdish leaders should officially drop any claims to any part of the Turkish Kurdistan and recognize the territorial integrity of Turkey. The Turks must realize that it is in their interest to have the Kurdish issue closed. The best way to solve this problem is through an official treaty with an independent Kurdish state next door. Kurdistan's freedom would also mean the liberation of the Turks' Azerbaijani and Turkmenistani bretheren currently under the Iranian colonialist rule, and will connect Turkey through a wide land swath with other fellow Turkic countries: Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and others. Their old Pan-Turkic dream will be fullfilled! U.S. and the Kurds should pointedly refuse to give such territorial guaranties to Syria, encouraging and aiding the already stirring independence movement among the Kurds there, who will be happy to join the independent Kurdistsn. If Hezbollah attacks Israel - and it will - Israel should respond with an all-out war against both Lebanon and Syria and liberate from them both Kurdistan and Druzistan. All of you readers: Please disseminate my post as widely as you can to individuals, the U.S., Israeli and Turkish media, to the U.S. President (the more of you folks contact him, the better), the Pentagon, the Israeli government and Mr. Halevi. Regards, Ruslan Tokhchukov.
22. don't count out this imporant event...
DANNY ,   AMERICA   (05.05.06)
Because it is going to happen believe it or not! That is the Rapture of the Christian church. That will empower Islam more than any other thing. Your friend America will become "Powerless" and Islam will claim Allah has done this to give them victory. Sorry we are going to not going to be around when you need us most, but while we are here let's keep up the good fight against this evil wanting to overtake the whole world, all in the name of manmade religion.
23. #13/14 Jewish Messiah and 12th Imam
Hussain ,   Manchester UK   (06.05.06)
Yisrael is right. Shia thoelogy is not very different to that from Jewish Belief about the coming of Missiah. I was having a discussion on this with a Jewish friend in Manchester. I discovered that Mehdi (ie Expected One) is alomst same idea as the expected saviour of Jewish people. Shia and Jews are so close in their basic beliefs. They do not realise that their faiths are almost identical. It is an irony that they dont get along despite having so much in common. I think a mutal chat between the clerics of two faiths would be very good for both nations.
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