SHUT UP #7... She's not even coming close to being an antisemite... Maybe if paranoid jews didn't go around calling everyone an antisemite, more people would feel sorry for them. WW2 was a horrible event for the jews and many other nationalities. By bringing up the past, jews don't realize that they are fostering more hate against them, not relieving it. Stop feeling sorry for yourselves and move on. By the way I'm jewish so don't screw with me and pass along that Antisemite crap.

Ellen asked a very legitimate question. The fact that you four cannot adequately address her question is exactly why most of the people in this country and the world disagree with you. So go live in Israel if it's such a righteous place to live. Bye and good riddance!

Quit bashing Ellen in such an infantile manner. Frankly, if you want to get on that level, then you're not worth the quality air you're breathing. Enjoy your crappy little shameful country!

Hey all you Zionist supporters! Are you starting to get the message that your views are antiquated and you are going to lose? Oh, that's right. Israel will take us all down. Ok, see you in H-E - double toothpicks. Oh wait! I won't be there, you will along with the PHarisees and Sadducees Jesus warned us about. Bye Bye.

Being labeled "antisemite" for disagreeing with anything Israeli is rediculous, but the more it happens, the sooner the stigma of that phrase will wear out. In fact, it is the Palistinians who are the semites!!! That makes the zionists "antisemitic"! What a wonderful world of insanity.

There are three types of terrorists in the world today; the first is the rich guy who says my great grandpa came from the middle east 3 thousand years ago( I have the evidence ); goes and occupies a foreign land; bulldozes homes; kills the local dwellers; and then builds a high fence; the second is the guy who takes money from the rich guy and says here's the F-16's, go kill as many as you want, I'll continue to lick your boots and salute you; the third terrorist, the worst kind, is the one who supports the first two terrorists.

Could you please stop conflating Israels security with "the West." I live in America and Iran is not a threat to me and has not threatened me. Israel has threatened Iran and is deliberately dragging the United States into this mess. Fight your own wars please. If you stop threatening your neighbors and stealing thier land you might find it easier to get along.

How are we any less terrorists in this govent than israel OR Iran? Our government has been taken over by a bunch of thugs who have control now. Why is Bush still not impeached? It only takes 51% of the house to do so... It has been proven with all the evidence released that the US government set up the US with "another pearl harbor" to entice fear to make control easier so they could pull off this massive attack on our country. If you don't believe it, do a search on Google for "9/11 loose change". Chronos

I have just read through this for first time. No wonder the world is in such a mess with the aggression and hate that is added to this section. i hope our God helps us , whatever his name might be to each of us , it seems we can`t help ourselves. Me? i pray for peace.

was not to "wipe Israel off the map". It was that the "occupying regime" would be destroyed. Ahmadinejad has compared the Palestinian occupation to the Iranians living under the Shah, and has stated a desire for everyone in "Palestine" to be free. The "Islamic Revolution" has yet to try to kill the Jewish people in Iran.

The COVENANT with Abraham and his DESCENDANTS is central to islam/chritianity/judaism. Please note this is not a competition between faiths but an attempt to decipher fact from fiction. GENESIS 16:16 And Hagar bore Abram a son; and Abram called the name of his son, whom Hagar bore, Ishmael. Abram was eighty-six years old when Hagar bore Ishmael to Abram. GENESIS 21:5 Abraham was a hundred years old when his son Isaac was born to him. At Genesis 22 Abraham had only 2 sons others came later. The Quran mentions that it was Ishmael that was sacrificed hence the reference in genesis 22:2 your only son can only mean someone has substituted Ishmael names for Isaac!! BY DOING SOME KINDERGARTEN ARITHMATIC USING ARABIC NUMBERS (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) NOT ROMAN NUMERALS (I, II, III,IV,V,VI,VII,VIII,IX,X) NB no concept of zero in roman numerals. 100 years old – 86 years old = 14 ADD 3 YEARS FOR ISSAC’S WEANING THAT WOULD MAKE ISHMAEL 17 YEARS OLD IN GENESIS 21:14-21 BUT IT IS A DESCRIPTION OF AN INFANT. Carefully read several times the above passage and then tell me the mental picture you get between the mother child interactions what is the age of the child. If the mental picture is that of a 17 year old child being carried on the shoulder of his mother, being physically placed in the bush, crying like a baby, mother having to give him water to drink, than the Islamic viewpoint is null and void. I have shown the passage of Genesis 21 to my two elder children of good reading ages now and without influencing them asked them what mental picture they got about the age of Ishmael in that passage and they thought he was about 5 years old. I have also tried the same thing with my work colleagues some of whom are qualified with PhD’s and have the ENGLISH language as their mother tongue and they also said they thought Ishmael was 5 years or younger because some of them stated by themselves that there was no verbal interaction between mother and child. i.e. If Ishmael is not of talking age then he must be less than a year old. GENESIS:21:14 - 21 So Abraham rose early in the morning, and took bread and a skin of water, and gave it to Hagar, putting it on her shoulder, along with the child, and sent her away. And she departed, and wandered in the wilderness of Beer-Sheba. When the water in the skin was gone, she cast the child under one of the bushes. Then she went, and sat down over against him a good way off, about the distance of a bowshot; for she said, “Let me not look upon the death of the child.” And as she sat over against him, the child lifted up his voice and wept. And God heard the voice of the lad; and the angel of God called to Hagar from heaven, and said to her, “What troubles you, Hagar? Fear not; for God has heard the voice of the lad where he is. Arise, lift up the lad, and hold him fast with your hand; for I will make him a great nation.” Then God opened her eyes, and she saw a well of water; and she went, and filled the skin with water, and gave the lad a drink. And God was with the lad, and he grew up; he lived in the wilderness, and became an expert with the bow. He lived in the wilderness of Paran; and his mother took a wife for him from the land of Egypt. AS THE DESCRIPTION OF ISHMAEL IN GENESIS 21:14-21 IS THAT OF AN INFANT IT CAN BE ASSUMED SOMEONE HAS MOVED THIS PASSAGE FROM AN EARLIER PART OF SCRIPTURE!!! AND HAVE GOT THERE KNICKERS IN A TWIST. For background info on the future religion of mankind see the following websites: http://www.al-sunnah.com/muhammad_in_the_bible.htm (MUHAMMAD IN THE BIBLE) http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/Books/MB_BQS/default.htm (Quran and Science) http://www.harunyahya.com/ http://www.barnabas.net/ http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac.htm http://www.islamicity.com/ http://www.islamonline.net/english/index.shtml HOLY QURAN CHAPTER 37 verses 101 - 122

For background info on the future religion of mankind see the following websites: http://www.al-sunnah.com/muhammad_in_the_bible.htm (MUHAMMAD IN THE BIBLE) http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/Books/MB_BQS/default.htm (Quran and Science) http://www.harunyahya.com/ http://www.barnabas.net/ http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac.htm http://www.islamicity.com/ http://www.islamonline.net/english/index.shtml HOLY QURAN CHAPTER 37 verses 101 - 122 101. So We gave him the good news of a boy ready to suffer and forbear. 102. Then, when (the son) reached (the age of) (serious) work with him, he said: "O my son! I see in vision that I offer thee in sacrifice: Now see what is thy view!" (The son) said: "O my father! Do as thou art commanded: thou will find me, if Allah so wills one practising Patience and Constancy!" 103. So when they had both submitted their wills (to Allah., and he had laid him prostrate on his forehead (for sacrifice), 104. We called out to him "O Abraham! 105. "Thou hast already fulfilled the vision!" - thus indeed do We reward those who do right. 106. For this was obviously a trial- 107. And We ransomed him with a momentous sacrifice: 108. And We left (this blessing) for him among generations (to come) in later times: 109. "Peace and salutation to Abraham!" 110. Thus indeed do We reward those who do right. 111. For he was one of our believing Servants. 112. And We gave him the good news of Isaac - a prophet,- one of the Righteous. 113. We blessed him and Isaac: but of their progeny are (some) that do right, and (some) that obviously do wrong, to their own souls. 114. Again (of old) We bestowed Our favour on Moses and Aaron, 115. And We delivered them and their people from (their) Great Calamity; 116. And We helped them, so they overcame (their troubles); 117. And We gave them the Book which helps to make things clear; 118. And We guided them to the Straight Way. 119. And We left (this blessing) for them among generations (to come) in later times: 120. "Peace and salutation to Moses and Aaron!" 121. Thus indeed do We reward those who do right. 122. For they were two of our believing Servants. ISHMAEL IS THE FIRST BORN AND GOOD NEWS OF ISSAC DOES NOT APPEAR UNTIL AFTER THE SACRIFICE????? THEREFORE THE CLAIM THAT GOD GAVE THE LAND TO ISRAEL IS DESTROYED WITHOUT THE NEED OF ANY WMD’s.

Below are verses from the Quran, where GOD/SATAN himself says that the scriptures were changed by the scribes. Quran Chapter 2 verse 75 75. Can ye (o ye men of Faith) entertain the hope that they will believe in you?- Seeing that a party of them heard the Word of Allah, and perverted it knowingly after they understood it. Quran Chapter 2 verse 79 79. Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say:"This is from Allah," to traffic with it for miserable price!- Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby. Quran Chapter 4 verse 46 46. Of the Jews there are those who displace words from their (right) places, and say: "We hear and we disobey"; and "Hear what is not Heard"; and "Ra'ina"; with a twist of their tongues and a slander to Faith. If only they had said: "What hear and we obey"; and "Do hear"; and "Do look at us"; it would have been better for them, and more proper; but Allah hath cursed them for their Unbelief; and but few of them will believe. Quran Chapter 2 verse 40 - 83 40. O Children of Israel! call to mind the (special) favour which I bestowed upon you, and fulfil your covenant with Me as I fulfil My Covenant with you, and fear none but Me. 41. And believe in what I reveal, confirming the revelation which is with you, and be not the first to reject Faith therein, nor sell My Signs for a small price; and fear Me, and Me alone. 42. And cover not Truth with falsehood, nor conceal the Truth when ye know (what it is). 43. And be steadfast in prayer; practise regular charity; and bow down your heads with those who bow down (in worship). 44. Do ye enjoin right conduct on the people, and forget (To practise it) yourselves, and yet ye study the Scripture? Will ye not understand? 45. Nay, seek ((Allah)'s) help with patient perseverance and prayer: It is indeed hard, except to those who bring a lowly spirit,-

Because they engaged in espionage against the US to acquire nuclear weapons designs, stole deutrium and tritium, are not signatories to the Non-Proliferation Treaty and do not permit IAEA inspections.' Iran's mistake is that it is a signatory to the Non-Proliferation Treaty. If they were not, they would be treated like Israel. Terrorism was good enough for the Israelis (like Stern and Irgun) when they were blowing up the King David Hotel and assassinating British Army officers and their families, but apparently they don't like the taste of their own medicine. While it was stupid of the Arab armies to attack , it was equally stupid for the Israelis not to bring them back into the fold as quickly as possible. It was idiotic of the Israelis to accept the leadership of Arafat, an Egyptian, and complete lunacy to continue to deal with him for the next 3 decades, so they have no one to blame but themselves for bad judgment. If Olmert was as intelligent as he thinks he is, then he would have demanded that the US apologize to the Iranians and unfreeze their assets and accounts. And if the US was half the country it claims it is and is as commited to democracy and justice as it claims to be, it would apologize to the Iranians for violating international law in its attempts to assassinate Prime Minister Massadeq in 1953 (at the behest of the British Government), whose only crime was wanting to nationalize the oil fields which were run by the Ango-Iranian Oil Company (and why not? Everything in the UK was nationalized at the time. Based on the actions of the US and UK during the last 50 years, it appears only western democratic nations can nationalize natural resources or that only white people are allowed to nationalize national resources). And, it would apologize, for violating international law by sinking 8 Iranian warships during the closing months of the Iraq-Iran war as Iran was about to over-run the forces of America's best friend, staunchest ally, protector of democracy, and angelic saint-on-high, Saddam Hussein. And, it would apologize for the fact that Carter sent General Huygens to Iran to convince the Iranian military to take over the country in a coup after the Shah left, even though US Ambassador Smith had been negotiating with Ayatollah Khomeni at the same time to take over the country. Don't forget that the previous Iranian president (a reformer) sent a letter to Bush via the Swiss Embassy in 2003 making no demands and offering to allow inspections of its nuclear facilities, recognize Israel's 1967 borders and transfer funding from Hezbollah to Fatah. Bush's response was to scream at the Swiss Ambssador for even thinking about delivering such a letter. Aside from having single handedly sabotaged the refomers in Iran, it's quite obvious that no matter what course of action Iran takes, the US, supported by Israel, is hell bent on military action.

Anyone that thinks this is simply hypocrisy is naive or foolish. The Iranian government cannot be allowed to develop nuclear weapons because of their radical stance. They have a publicly stated agenda that includes the "destruction of Israel". To the best of my knowledge, the Israelis have never suggested the destruction of Iran. Why should the Israelis be allowed to have 200 + nukes,,one phrase "NEVER AGAIN!"

It was the media that changed and projected the Iranian presiden't's words as if he said that they want to destroy Israel. He doesn't even hate jews or anything, he is perfectly capable of being friends with jews as long as they're not radical Zionists. Media is just trying to provoke the world into another war like they did with Iraq/WoMD lies. There is a channel named "representativepress" over at youtube, I recommend watching his videos.