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Court: J'lem discriminated against gays
Neta Sela
Published: 29.05.06, 11:01
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1. How do they count gays for allocating funds, seriously how?
Bunnie Meyer ,   Santa Monica, CA   (05.29.06)
2. Hey ! not fair! What about the Sado-masochist community, and
(05.29.06)
I bet there are at least a dozen other "communities" that aren't benefiting from the Culture Fund. Cut the crap and stop misappropriating municipal funds. The "straight" majority sacrifices deserved funding for REAL cultural needs!!!
3. Don't pay, give the money to the cancer patients.
Straight citizen ,   Israel   (05.29.06)
4. The MONEY is URGENTLY NEEDED for ISRAEL'S DEFENSE!
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (05.29.06)
Day and night, the war NEVER stops! A war the Jews cannot afford to lose! Cognizant of the horrific treatment the Islamo-Fascist religious supremacists give to gays, the gays should give the money for their defense and the defense of all Israel. Everyone must do their part to assure the survival of Israel.
5. the generosity of the prophet Linda!
shai ,   T-A   (05.29.06)
Why only the money of a gay organisation, Linda? go ahead : what of your own one? what of the billions we pour on the ultraorthodox who don't serve in the army? Please let them alone. Signed : a straight secular israeli.
6. JUDGE TZUR
yaakov ,   JUDEA   (05.29.06)
Did your law-school profs tell you this is a democracy? WRONG, Its a oligarchy, wake up!
7. They count gays...
Mike ,   Atlanta, USA   (05.29.06)
In the same way they count Jews...arbitrarily.
8. gays in jerusalem
E. Steinlauf ,   jerusalem, israel   (05.29.06)
Lupiansky is falling asleep at the wheel. While he has been successful in keeping the city 100% more clean then Olmart ever did when he was the Mayor, he is failing (and time is running out) to get the city council to come out publically and tell the world that there will not be allowed to be held in the Holy City of Jerusalem this summer a planned "International March of the Homo-Lesbian Community. OK, we forgived him when he first took office and the gays had their sickening abomination parade since he probably didn't want to make waves when he first took office - being a man of peace - however if he does not stand up and fight for this battle then he for this alone must resign in protest or be party to this dissanctification of G-d's name in public. (The Israeli homo's call their parade the "March of the Proud" - most people here say " If someone suffers from a sickness, why would he want to publicize it in a parade?).
9. linda
e. steinlauf ,   jerusalem, israel   (05.29.06)
I pressed the wrong reply button. I'm against the comment about not funding the Yeshiva students(UltraOrthodox) throughout Israel and many of them serve in the Armey as Nachal Chareide. Also they are well funded they can become experts in Torah living and spread the good words to our secular friends and the whole world will be improved. Also how can you in one breath compare a person that commits an act of abomination with a person who learns to become closer to G-d?
10. # 6 JUDGE
(05.29.06)
wrong Mr. Judge, theocracy,or at least well on the way.
11. #9 e. steinlauf - I'm puzzled by your comment
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (05.29.06)
Did you put my name by mistake? You address your #9 comment to me and state: "Also how can you in one breath compare a person that commits an act of abomination with a person who learns to become closer to G-d?" I never said any such thing!!! My big concern is the safety of the Jewish people.
12. #4 Funds needed for Israel Defense
Brod ,   USA   (05.29.06)
Yes, the funds are needed for Israel Defense. This is more important than flaunting a particular lifestyle. In deciding the matter, the City Municipality knows what the GOD of Israel--the GOD of the Holy Bible has said about this lifestyle. The Capital District Court needs to read their Holy Bible and see what GOD has said about this matter as shown in the following texts: Genesis 19:4-12; 19:23-28 Leviticus 18:22; 20:13 1 Kings 14:24; 15:11-12; 22:41-46 2 Kings 23:7 1 Corinthians 6:9-10
13. brod (#12)
sk ,   USA   (05.29.06)
I have already addressed this when you wrote under a different name (as "Bon"). See #14 in http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3255553,00.html
14. Uh, Linda (#4), they already have given money
sk ,   USA   (05.29.06)
It's called TAXES, and last I checked, gay Israelis do pay them. Within the confines of the approved budgets, there is no more reason to ask gays to give up their fair share than to ask straights to do so.
15. G-d, gays, Judaism and Jerusalem
The Golem ,   Los Angeles   (05.29.06)
<< Also how can you in one breath compare a person that commits an act of abomination with a person who learns to become closer to G-d? >> Did it ever occur to you that some of us, who are gay are also seeking to become closer to G-d and to understand why The Holy One created us gay? Perhaps the meaning of Leviticus 18:20 has been misunderstood. I know that this is not the Haredi understanding, but many of us believe that we are both good Jews and proudly open, mentally healthy gays and lesbians.
16. #15
sammy ,   ashdod   (05.29.06)
Sorry to get personal, have you tried hormones as an efficient treatment?? Many gays became so kuz of poor parental same sex image. Some from peer preasure. When tracing back to what triggered the twisted conduct, many overcame gay tendencies quite succesfully
17. #14 sk - I never suggested and most certainly do not believe
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (05.30.06)
...that gays should pay more in taxes! In non-stop war, nothing is more important than Israel's security! Under circumstances of war, how can Israel afford a Culture Budget giving money to any organization whether they are gay or straight? Private funding of organizations would be best.
18. #16 hormones????
The Golem ,   Los Angeles   (05.30.06)
Funny, I hasve a graduate degree in Psychology, keep up with the literature but have not heard of any hormone treatment. I have heard of a lot of very unhappy people who tried to change their natural gay inclination, and required years of therapy to reach some self acceptance. And your slur on my father as a male role model is noted, but I forgive you.
19. Hey, Sammy (#15) is an expert!
sk ,   USA   (05.30.06)
Hey, Sammy, sorry to get personal, but have you tried a brain transplant? Of course you did. I guess it didn't work. Since you seem to be an expert at the etiology of homosexuality, I guess you have some peer-reviewed publications to cite in support of your claims? I wonder: how do stupid & ignorant Jews become this way? Do they come from stupid & ignorant Arab countries? Do they have stupid & ignorant parents? Does religion inhibit neural activity? Maybe daddy's ... were too hot from those clown suits when junior was conceived? So many possibilities.
20. It takes sodomite "justice" to make Sodom out of Jerusalem?
Nebojsa Yitzchak M ,   Toronto   (05.30.06)
21. Gay Fundings
Glenn ,   Grand Ridge, Fl.   (05.30.06)
Any type of support for any homosexual activities, forums,etc. should be stopped by all governmental agencies world wide, without exception.
22. abominations!
darwin music ,   dawson kentucky   (05.30.06)
Sodom was destroyed! Our Maker hates such ways Now just as much as He did thousands of years long gone! His love for His children is unchanging but He is just. Will you get that filth Out of Isreal and out of Jerusalem? Our Maker hates such ways as this.
23. Equality does not mean uniformity
David W. Lincoln ,   Edmonton, Alberta   (05.30.06)
Lets make one thing clear: men and women are different. This came about by the one who also brought about the reality that human beings go through different phases, and the initial phases occured before birth. This is the foundation that heterosexuality is deemed to be natural. So, why should rebellion against what is natural be subsidized, encouraged or shielded?
24. #21, #22
The Golem ,   Los Angeles   (05.30.06)
Glenn, as you oppose any government support for anything having to do with gay people, I assume you also must support abolishing taxes for gay people. We support schools, parks and many services primarily used by heterosexuals with children. Fair is fair. Darwin, the people of Sodom wanted to rape the two angels, not have long term loving relationships with them. You do know the difference between love and rape, don't you? If not, I pity your poor partner. The sin of Sodom was inhospitality to strangers, not gay love. And if you believe that gays are incapable of sustained, loving relationships, my lover and I will be celebrating 24 years lovingly together.
25. gay pride
sonia ,   canada   (05.30.06)
the gay pride act is against THEIR RELIGION!! It is an abomination to God, and it comes before anything else
26. Born gay??? Not really
Julian Manole ,   Melbourne, Australia   (05.31.06)
First of all there is no such thing as a homosexual. You may have homosexual inclinations, but that doesn't make you a gay person. If you want to follow God, just do what He asks and stop making excuses. If you know He is against homosexuality ask His help so you will be freed from this evil influence rather than making excuses such as that the Bible is not really against homosexuality. So what's it going to be: ask God for help or keep rebelling against His commandments? Your choice.
27. Court: Jerusalem discriminated agains Gays
Eric A Saibil ,   Toronto, Canada   (05.31.06)
The city should deal with this decision by ceasing to fund culture of any kind.
28. YOU'VE BEEN WARNED
PAT ,   CAMPINAS BRAZIL   (05.31.06)
FIRST IT STARTS OFF WITH TOLERANCE, THEN IT TURNS INTO INTOLERANCE FOR EVERYONE WHO AGREES. THEN IT IS FORCED UPON YOU CHILDREN AT SCHOOL AS MANDATORY "SENSITIVITY" TRAINING, AND THEN IT BECOMES LAW. STOP THE MADNESS NOW BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE. JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE CHOOSES TO LIVE IN AN UN-NATURAL STATE DOESN'T ENTITLE THEM TO ALL KINDS OF SPECIAL BENEFITS AND PROTECTIONS. 3-8% OF THE POPULATION IS CONSIDERED "HOMOSEXUAL", WHY THEN DO THEY GET ALL THESE SPECIAL PRIVLEDGES? BECAUSE THEY LIE TO THE REST OF THE WORLD ABOUT THEIR TRUE INTENTIONS. GET A SPINE OR SOME BALLS!!!! STAND UP AGAINST THEM!!!! LET THEM BE GAY IF THEY WANT TO BUT DONT REWARD THEM FOR DOING WRONG. JUST WAIT, YOU WILL SEE WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO YOUR COUNTRY.
29. Pat from Brazil
sk ,   USA   (05.31.06)
Oh really, Pat, THAT IS JUST SO SCARY!! ESPECIALLY IN UPPERCASE!! Your worry about trifles like this with katyushas aimed at Tel Aviv? Actually, you worry about this with all the dreadful things happening in Brazil?!?
30. Ignorance
Mark ,   Jerusalem   (05.31.06)
I am sad to see so many hate-filled, ignorant people in this forum. It's really shocking that in the Western World of 2006, you would still have such bigotry toward people born gay. My only prayer is that each of "haters" is born gay in another life. Then you will be like me -- gay, and trying to fathom the misguided fear and hatred of people claiming to believe in G-d and human rights.
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